Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Church of God Eternal: Satanic Ministers On The Loose in COG's



People get angry with me for pointing out the shenanigans of Church of God ministers, yet they are hypocritically silent when COG organizations make accusations against all the other COGlets.

The Church of God Eternal has a letter up warning the faithful to beware of the satanic influence of ministers and leaders in the COG who are leading people astray. What he writes is true, that the minsters are leading the "faithful" away from truth since that has been the standard operating procedure for the COG since it's inception.  Sadly, COGE fails to realize that what they are accusing others of is the exact same thing that they are doing to their own members.  This letter is a damning indictment against the Church of God Eternal too!

The work of deceiving spirits is evident in the church today. Satan's own ministers, who appear as ministers of righteousness, are teaching his lies. They are not following Jesus Christ. They have wormed their own way into the church of God and have seated themselves on doctrinal boards and have assumed teaching positions in churches. They work from within as an official part of the church organization. Using subversive tactics, Satan's ministers have subtly and skillfully taken control. Under their control, the Truth of God is changed little by little into a lie. The doctrines are so cleverly worded and so skillfully presented that even staunch believers cannot detect it.
What he describes below sounds exactly like COGE!  They use scripture to sound impressive while promoting heretical garbage as truth.
Because they know how to twist the truth, their false doctrine looks and sounds blessedly true. What can be wrong? Yes, the Word of God is the Truth, but handling it deceitfully produces error. Their interpretation of God's Word is backed by clever arguments of philosophy and theology with intellectual-sounding words. They appear to be words of wisdom and logic, but they are truly Satanic and diabolical. They are not dividing the word of Truth honestly; the scripture is being used, but dishonestly.

By handling the Word of God deceitfully, false teachers lead the people into spiritual blindness. Because they are walking in blinding darkness, they do not perceive that they are headed for a dangerous fall. They are like the man who built the ship, Titanic. The man believed in his own mind that even God Himself could not make the ship sink. But alas, the ship sank, killing many people.

 These false teachers and false apostles had succeeded in infiltrating the church of God by the 1970s and were actively changing the true teaching of Jesus Christ and perverting the gospel. 
COGE fails to see that the original false teacher started decades before the 1970 debacles.  Try 1936 when Herb popped on to the scene.  A rebellious man who refused to follow the authority of the church that ordained him, who created his own set of extra-biblical doctrines and who split off to start his own church all on the whim of a nightmare Loma had.  Bad dreams produce bad results and the current state of the Church of God's prove that.

19 comments:

Glenn said...

What recent or pending doctrinal changes are these people getting so worked up about? I am so far off the xcg grid that I have no clue what the controversial issues are.

Anonymous said...

I think COGE has been stuck in the seventies ever since those godless liberals tricked HWA into changing the marriage/divorce doctrine. My guess is they get worked up over anything that has changed or threatens change over the last forty years.

Painful Truth said...

For the record, Herb changed the marriage/divorce doctrine in order to marry Ramona.

It suited him so he changed it. Never mind all the broken homes he created with the original doctrine. No that don't matter. What mattered was Herb and Herb alone. Fuck everyone else!

Anonymous said...

"Satanic Ministers On The Loose in COG's"


I have to agree. It is too obvious to ignore any longer.

Anonymous said...

Again, I ask the author of this article, what religious organization are you affiliated with?

Anonymous said...

I think a healthy debate on the merits of the doctrines that the WWCG espoused would be an interesting topic here. I'm not interested in people bashing. We have all made mistakes (Moses,Aaron, David, Solomon, Peter, and yes, Mr Armstrong). Also, we must make a distinction between administration and doctrine. they are two separate entities and have nothing to do with each other.
That understood, who would like to discuss weather or not the DOCTRINES adopted by the WWCG, were biblically founded or not.

Anonymous said...

Case closed. Doctrines are founded in the Bible...

Gypsy Cunning said...

The splinters are always bad mouthing each other.

Anonymous said...

From my personal experience, COGTE was a good church organization up until 2001, but it was 2003 where the problems really started for it. Pertinent literature was removed from the archives in 01, and the entrance of a couple of men in 03 not approved for the ministry, but yet allowed to speak, has seen it struggling with problems up until this very day. A handful of teachings have changed during this time, but those came down from the lead pastor. Baptism and teaching on the just what the church really is, to name two. They did not change overnight either. Ironically, they changed just as stated in the excerpts from the monthly letter posted on this blog. These are all documented via audio and writings.

Members are cornered by fear in these organizations, and fail to exercise their right to contend for what they believed initially, and got baptized for. It is my recommendation, that people wake up and strip the scales from their eyes. Do not fear to read your Bible and let it interpret itself in context. Dust off your old material, it was written for you as a historical means to know what to do in times of trouble.

That's all.

EAST AFRICA CHRISTIAN Mission said...

Hello am the one who wrote that letter,am in Kenya and i have background in world wide church of God,i have seen many doctrine are being changed every year.
Thanks

Anonymous said...

Why are you still writing for them if they have changed teaching? Are you not supposed to call them accursed?

Unknown said...

I beg to differ with all the negative and at times shameful comments posted here in regards to this splinter group. I attend their services. I know their pastors. I fellowship with them. I have yet to meet with a more caring group of people. They love trurth above all else. Their leaders lead in love and truth. They care about their flock and show it. I have seen absolutely not one doctrinal change since this groups inception. Not one. Of all the groups that I have looked at, this one has the most sound doctrinal foundation of them all. What I see in this room are people with empty hearts and confused minds trying make a case for their contempt against Truth. The Truth of God Almighty. I have seen nothing vaguely resembling facts here. At least no facts that support the arguments. Bring them to the table. If you have none to offer then refrain from contributing to the discourse at hand. That is Satan's way. Bring truth. Honor yourself and the God you profess by using it. ONLY words that are backed up by historical and biblical facts should be used here. Do any of YOU claim to follow a false GOD? Is YOUR GOD the real GOD? Then honor him by being truthful and honest. The discussion here is about this group and no other. What are its DOCTRINAL flaws? Let's put these to the test of the Holy Scriptures. Speak truth or don't speak at all.

James Durham said...

I beg to differ with all the negative and at times shameful comments posted here in regards to this splinter group. I attend their services. I know their pastors. I fellowship with them. I have yet to meet with a more caring group of people. They love trurth above all else. Their leaders lead in love and truth. They care about their flock and show it. I have seen absolutely not one doctrinal change since this groups inception. Not one. Of all the groups that I have looked at, this one has the most sound doctrinal foundation of them all. What I see in this room are people with empty hearts and confused minds trying make a case for their contempt against Truth. The Truth of God Almighty. I have seen nothing vaguely resembling facts here. At least no facts that support the arguments. Bring them to the table. If you have none to offer then refrain from contributing to the discourse at hand. That is Satan's way. Bring truth. Honor yourself and the God you profess by using it. ONLY words that are backed up by historical and biblical facts should be used here. Do any of YOU claim to follow a false GOD? Is YOUR GOD the real GOD? Then honor him by being truthful and honest. The discussion here is about this group and no other. What are its DOCTRINAL flaws? Let's put these to the test of the Holy Scriptures. Speak truth or don't speak at all.

Anonymous said...

PART I
Mr. Durham,

Assuming that is your real name, I would like to apologize for what is going to be a long-winded reply to your post. I would also like to say that the founding pastor of COGTE, up until the time of his death, was a faithful servant according to my knowledge.

I agree with you when comments about a particular splinter group are made out of anger, and void of facts and truth. It is shameful. However, I will dispel the notion for you, that this is the case regarding the particular splinter group in question, as it exists today under it's current leadership.

You cannot look at most of the "major doctrines" held within this organization, and point out a glaring change. When you look at Monday Pentecost for example. The change you would look for there, is a change to a different day. That would be glaringly obvious. This is what happened in 1974, which you no doubt know. Similar statements can be made about other major doctrines such as Divorce and Remarriage. Sadly, this is the "only" type of change that splinter group members look for today, because they have been conditioned to. This allows for free course of all of Satan's other avenues of deception.

let's talk about "truth and change". We know that truth cannot change, therefore, anything which is spoken from the pulpit for those hearing the message to live their lives by and practice their belief, should be above board, correct? How an individual colors a subject when given the pulpit, can make a world of difference in the direction Christians will walk. It does not matter if it is by 2 degrees, or 200, error is error. Please see Mr. Brisby's letter from February 2002 entitled "The Truth and Nothing but the Truth". This is currently on their website. At that time, he had it spot on. Also, you can refer to the Apostle Paul's statement in Galatians 1:8-9. Keep in mind, one slight change in a doctrine that is intended to place the practicing Christian on a different path than they were originally, is deception and error. It is all that is required by the holy scriptures to warrant leaving a physical organization. Some would use Mr. Cole and the details surrounding his departure from WWCG in the 70's, as the prime example to warrant leaving an organization. Although that is a good example, Christ and his teaching on the matter, is what we look to first. Please see Mr. Raymond Cole's monthly letter from November 1978 for further clarification on departure from a physical organization. I will detail two changes that are rather significant, the rest I will list for the sake of keeping this post shorter, rather than longer. Also, please keep in mind that every piece of information referenced in this post, is real and documented. You said to honor my God by being truthful and honest, so hear it is in no particular order.

Anonymous said...

(PART II)
In 2011, just 2 days after the Feast of Tabernacles, Mr. Robert Litz, a man vehemently upheld as being a legitimate shepherd to the flock by Mr. Jon Brisby, gave a sermon entitled "Peter's Preeminence". First, anyone with an ear, should have been able to detect this as being Catholic Doctrine. Secondly, it was never what Mr. Cole taught from the pulpit. A multitude of his audio recordings bare that out in no uncertain terms. Neither does it compare with what Jesus taught in the Bible. If it were just for these two items alone, we might dismiss it as Mr. Litz making a mistake in bringing over old corrupted material from his former affiliation, PCG. However, that should have never been the case if the claim the two Litz brothers made in listening to over 800 of Mr. Coles tapes, was true. They would have known what was taught to the brethren for more than 20 years, and spoke accordingly. Now, for the icing on the cake. This sermon given by Mr. Robert Litz, was not his material. In fact, it was material authored by Fred Datallo with the Philadelphia Church Of God in 2003. A group Mr. Litz called apostate, with apostate teaching. I will provide the link to the article here for reference: https://www.pcog.org/articles/1274/was-peter-the-chief-apostle. Robert Litz read this article nearly word for word from the pulpit, and pawned it off as inspired speaking to the brethren. So why would he do what he did and teach PCG's corrupt doctrine to COGTE brethren? Maybe it was because he lacked sermon material for that Sabbath, because it was only two days post feast. Maybe he really did harbor the belief that one man was the head of the Church. Who know's, who cares. The bottom line, was that it was corrupt teaching to the church. Mr. Brisby to this day, still supports the teaching, because it is still available for order on the website. I will admit, the teaching does serve a purpose. It keeps God's people looking to a man, rather than Christ.

Let's talk about Church Administration, COGTE fundamental #22. The boundary of this doctrine was already being stretched prior to 2009. September 17th of 2009, a message was given that absolutely obliterated it. The title of this message was: "A special message to the Eugene and Vancouver congregations". This recording was marked on the CD "not for distribution". So the only people in the entire physical group of Church of God, The Eternal that heard the message, were Eugene, OR and Vancouver, WA brethren. Does that make sense? If the Church is a "Spiritual Entity" and is supposed to be of "One Mind", then why are there politics employed with a message? This message was given because of a problem Mr. Brisby was addressing within the church. He was so angry and arrogant at this point in time, I guess he felt that this doctrine was of no importance anymore. If you listen to the message, you will hear the great amount of error. This one message alone, was reason enough for everyone hearing it in real time, to get up and walk out.

Anonymous said...

(THIRD AND FINAL PART)
These are just two significant issues that are black marks on this organization. Listed below, are many other areas of teaching that have significant problems. All have documented proof in either writings, or recordings. As compared to the Bible, and as compared to the teaching of the founding pastor, they run contrary.

Church Government, The Bereans, Baptism, Blessing of The Little Children, On Jesus and His "Heart" (black is what it was called by Mr. Brisby), Bible Translations, If you leave the organization - you lose your Holy Spirit & Ministerial Ordinations. These are most, but not all.

In your post, you stated regarding the ministry, and I quote: "They love truth above all else. Their leaders lead in love and truth. They care about their flock and show it. I have seen absolutely not one doctrinal change since this groups inception. Not one. Of all the groups that I have looked at, this one has the most sound doctrinal foundation of them all."

If they are willing to bend or change truth, then they do not love it above all else. If they bend or change truth, then they do not lead in love or truth. Therefore, they do not care about the flock, nor show it, unless it is a show. Doctrine is teaching. When Christ taught, every word that left his mouth, was something for you or I to live by. Ministers are commissioned to follow his example in every way, carnal flesh or not. If they step up to a pulpit, and speak error once, we might call it a mistake and look past it. If they continue to do it consistently, then that is deception on purpose. Either that, or they are being deceived. Either way, as Christians we are commanded to remove ourselves from this.

Mr. Brisby has the helm of that organization physically today. He can either work to straighten it's course, which would take humility and swallowing pride. Or, he can continue to further lead it into deeper waters. His choice.

Anonymous said...

Scott, why are you getting on James Durham about having a pseudonym but you are hiding behind Anonymous? Look, I'm Anonymous too!

Anonymous said...

I find it interesting, that your concern lies in the deciphering of a name, that which is not at the heart of the matter. What say you concerning the doctrine?

Web Administrator said...

I still have yet to see the doctinal issues addressed in this post. Is doctrine not important anymore? Are organizations and personas what we look to, and feel safe with now?