Thursday, January 31, 2013

COG Member Says "Lets pray for our Church leaders to help us."


On those wacky Yahoo groups a person posted the following tonight. He is warning that dire famines and food shortages are immediately ahead of us and that we need to make adjustments to our lives.  He then lists things people need to be doing.


1  Lets pray for our Church leaders to help us. (Gods help)
2  The old WCG teaching of Zec 3:  taught that this was the Laodicea Church,(churches? v8)
3  Lets pray that Christ will cast Satan away, out of the church, as the days are quite evil    Zech 3:1-5.
This might be a difficult/dividing time of change to Godly. Pre tribulation I believe. Zec 3:7.
5  Lets pray for the them/us.

Can you imagine when times get rough what most of the splinter group leaders will be doing?  They will be expecting the lay members to feed and take care of them.  They certainly will NOT be helping lay members.  You will be expected to give tithes of the food you have to support the minister and his family.  If he loses his home you will be required to let him move in your better home and you move out.  He will take your car, eat your food and wear your clothes. Don't expect any handouts from our minsters!

26 comments:

Douglas Becker said...

After treating us decades with contempt, does anyone expect the ministry to turn things around, repent and be loving caring people given to sacrifice?

After hearing decades of sermons from Dennis Luker, as one prime example, where he spoke about how concerned he was about his salary and his retirement, I would say not.

Before you ask something, don't you sort have to be sure that it would be something that is God's Will?

I've done this in the past and even fasted while praying for these swindlers and if it's any indication, God gave up on these con artists a long time ago.

Anyway, people like Roderick Meredith are perfect and never committed any major sin since they were baptized. What a waste of water.

And today, if all goes well, Ronald Weinland will be going to prison, perhaps the first of many of his brethren in this new round of justice to make an example of a failed ministry.

Douglas Becker said...

Minister = a man who expects you to serve him.

Anonymous said...

Minister = a man who expects you to serve him.

LOL Douglas,
It's like that Twilight Zone episode, in which 'To Serve Man' turned out to be a cookbook!

-Norm

Head Usher said...

Given that shit did hit the fan, I am convinced that 99% of ministurds would sacrifice the lives of their laymembers in order to preserve their own lives for a day or two.

Stupid people who make equivalences between their church leaders and god are exactly the type who will gladly take a bullet for their abusive leaders. Incidentally, ministurds have always striven to surround themselves with this kind of cult membership.

Anonymous said...

Plead with the imaginary for help from the impotent? Good plan!

Steve Kisack said...

Why would the suckers think that the ministurds would be different when and if things get rough? "For if they do this to you in the green tree, what will they do in the dry?"

Douglas Becker said...

Which all makes me cringe to remember the prospects of a resource deprived harsh Place of Safety where the ministers would have complete control over the dysfunctional group held captive there.

Joe Moeller said...

Take my cat??

I will draw the line right there!

Joe Moeller
Cody, WY

Douglas Becker said...

Pray that you have your priorities straight.

The minister comes first before anything or anyone else.

Always.

Corky said...

When there is a big problem, pray about it. Hey, it worked for six million Jews...

Byker Bob said...

The ACOGs do not now, nor did they ever function as did the communal early primitive church in the apostolic era. Paul actually worked making tents so that he wouldn't be a burden on those in his congregations.

Here's the basic problem with the mindset of the ACOGs. They were conditioned to accept a huge, all knowing authority structure as the government of God. The implication is that this government knows best, will take care and nurture members, kind of like they took care of some needy ones during the '50s and '60s with third tithe, or paying indigent peoples' ways to the FT. There have been no shortage of examples as to how HWA/WCG created a totally dependent group of people to whom HWA always referred as "dumb sheep". We, being detached and objective can think it through to its logical conclusion, a conclusion in which the broad majority of members who suddenly must fend for themselves, or depend upon God not as a collective but as individuals, will be left high and dry, totally stranded. It's not going to be a pretty thing.

My advice to believers is to know where to place your trust, and to make sure your personal relationship with God has not been coopted or usurped by a guru or corporate church group. And, not just because of bogus Armstrongish false prophecies, either. Anyone who listens to "Coast to Coast" has been exposed to numerous non-Armstrong scenarios and theories which could unfold. As an example, if we lose the Second Amendment, and the international Islamist extremists actually bring their jihad to our shores, how would we preserve and retain our existing Constitution as the forefathers so correctly provided for?

BB

Anonymous said...

Corky said...

When there is a big problem, pray about it. Hey, it worked for six million Jews...

Unfortunately for those 6 million Jews, there were also 9 million Nazis praying about their big problem.

Mogollon Monster said...

Well you just get on those yahoo groups and straighten them right out!

Douglas Becker said...

Words that invoke suspicion:

Hi, I'm a minister from the Church of God and I'm here to help you.

Anonymous said...

The fellow from that Yahoo site wrote the following:

"...The old WCG teaching of Zec 3: taught that this was the Laodicea Church, (churches? v8. )
..."

Where was/is his proof for that statement?

What the individual wrote on that Yahoo site is full of speculation and fear religion and doesn't know what he is talking about. And note that nobody is responding to him on that Yahoo site. He does not even understand what Zech 3 is really all about.

His double guess/hunches are just that: guesses!!!!!!!!!! Who needs any more of that?

John

Anonymous said...

it appears to me that corky has a miserable life.

i hope he gets help someday.

Anonymous said...

That whole government thing is the biggest misinformation ever put out by HWA. Maybe he believed it himself, I don't know, but it's totaly wrong.

People don't research it themselves, so they fall into the trap, and suffer because of it.

Anonymous said...

You don't pray for false prophets you get away from them...once you realize who they are. God will deal with them in His time.

Corky said...

Anonymous said...

it appears to me that corky has a miserable life.

i hope he gets help someday.


Oh, you have no idea just how miserable it is - wet, cold and hungry, ridden with disease and old age. Maybe you could help me? Send money!

Steve Kisack said...

Yeah, me too. I have a miserable, poor life. Could you please send me your tithes and offerings? At least contribute to the building fund...my house payment.Why give it all to a bunch of lying "ministers" who are already rich? Do you know what they have been doing with all that excess that you've been so sheepishly sending in? They've been buying up land and property. No? Just ask the Myers brothers as one example.

Anonymous said...

Anyone who listens to "Coast to Coast" is likely wacky.

Anonymous said...

Apparently some COG ministers DO pitch in and help members in difficult situations:

http://www.ucg.org/blog/flooding-australia-2013/

Steve Kisack said...

Anonymous said...
Apparently some COG ministers DO pitch in and help members in difficult situations:

Matthew 6:1-4

Byker Bob said...

Depends on how many times you listen to Coast to Coast. I don't think two or three times a year qualifies you as a whack job. Anyone interested in survival needs to be aware of the alternative thinking patterns going on in some of the extreme communities. Let's face it, some folks are really worried about the new electric meters, rfid chips in everything, and what gets monitored when you make credit card purchases. Oh, and the FEMA camps. Where else are you going to learn about all of this crap?

BB

Anonymous said...

Thank you Jesus for giving us "Coast to Coast", to tell us about the new electric meters, rfid chips in everything, the FEMA camps and how how the Earth is hollow!

Anonymous said...

Hollow earth. LOL. Might as well talk about a flat earth.