Tuesday, June 18, 2013

Dennis on "Apostle David tells us all..."

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Apostle David tells us all...

"One of the Bible’s most profound passages has become one few any longer read: “Seek you the Lord while He may be found, call you upon Him while He is near: let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and He will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon. For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts” (Isa. 55:6-9)."

Dennis Diehl - EzineArticles Expert AuthorI am tempted to ask Dave, "And you know this," when it comes to him telling everyone what parts of scripture they rarely read anymore, but I spare you.  Aside from this being said 2500+ years ago and the Deity has been playing hide and seek for most of those 2000+ years, this is pure apologetic on Isaiah's part.  This is what you say when you don't wish to be questioned as a human being speaking for God.  When people say, "What?"  or "That sounds nuts..." , this is what you throw at them.  Other such gems are "the wisdom of man is foolishness with God" or "There is a way that SEEEEEEEEMS right to a man," but it ends in you taking a dirt nap.

I suppose the ultimate put down when you thought you understood or the prophet, priest or kings words fall flat are, "Well you didn't listen.  I didn't say THAT!   It's spiritually discerned and a type!"   Uh huh....

Apostle Dave is a type  and fulfillment for sure.  A type of deviant personality with a theological twist and a filled full of himself approach to leadership. Or so it seems when you read his own words and warnings.

At any rate, since we are playing the scriptures that "few any longer read," game, let's play back.

“Blessed are the poor in spirit,
    for theirs is the kingdom of heaven

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Matthew says this but left it in the original form of just "the poor."  Jesus was drawn to those who lacked material goods, were pushed around by the religious elite and suffered under the Roman foot.  Apostle Dave is not real big from what I can tell on hanging with those who have little to offer or contribute to him.

"Blessed are the meek,
    for they will inherit the earth

Meek?  As in humble?   Ah ha.  Not in RCG world.

Blessed are the merciful,
    for they will be shown mercy.

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Well except for threatening, on God's behalf, imminent death to ministers who defy the living Apostle David.  Seems somewhere I read that Dave says all that oppose him either get really sick (humans do get sick) or die. (Which they also do at times)  Seems a disconnect here between Dave and Je...Christ.

Blessed are the pure in heart,
    for they will see God

Not saying for sure, but I personally have problems with seeing the pure of heart thing in the Apostle Pack.  I see angry of heart, arrogant of heart and I have the only valid heart on earth, but  pure...not so much.

Blessed are the peacemakers,
    for they will be called children of God.

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Apostle Dave?  Peacemaking?  Um...no.

“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

(Tempted to post pictures of REAL persecution today but will not.)

Going to throw in the "Because of ME, who seems to be Jes..Christ here and not the Apostle David.  You simply must read the whole verse.  It does not say 
 “Blessed are you when people insult you, get irritated with you you and correctly say all kinds of pretty accurate observations  about you based on your own words and writings and  BECAUSE OF YOUR DUMBASS STATEMENTS AND EGO CENTRIC EXAGGERATIONS ABOUT YOURSELF. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

This is not why the prophets of old were persecuted, however and in my humble view, some of them probably deserved what they got to for their unfulfilled prophecies and very strange behaviors which would be considered mental illness today. But that's another story.

 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.

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Now granted, it could be me and I might be missing something with regards to the Apostle David's view of good deeds, but I think this is an oft forgotten scripture on his part. RCG won't help actual humans in need, outside of those who already funded their own help if needed and approved, so this seems a weak spot in RCG and an often missed concept.  Damn the Red Cross and send it to me for preaching the ever just ahead World Tomorrow and that should do it , and all that...
Sounds like be warmed and be filled, but what do I know...

You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[i] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Now I'm just sayin', but I feel there is a lack here of this often avoided and unread scripture in RCG and who the Apostle Dave loves and doesn't love.  I would hardly call the screeds of the past few weeks towards those also sincere in their church affiliations and ministry as loving and respectful.  And puuuuulease do not give me that BS about "tough love."   I can't help you unless I demean and threaten you doesn't work in my world. 

So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

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Now again, I'm not sure what is given to whom and why but my impression is that this scripture would be no problem in RCG because nothing is going to be given so there is nothing to crow about.

Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.......24 “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.


Oi...not sure what to say here.  That Cup of Elijah for $25,000 threw me and I've been assured that everything in the home of the Apostle David is of awesome quality etc.  Let's just leave this one to the imagination. 

Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Oh mama...I am at a loss to explain this one in relation to the Apostle David's last 18 screeds in Christ.  Let it suffice to say I think that this is the most unread scripture in RCG

Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

Hmmm...I thought the summation of the Prophets, or at least the Minor ones for Apostle David  was:

Sell your house while I build mine and my staffs.

Cut our children out of your will NOW and send it in before you die because litigation takes too long.

All splinter tithes and offerings belong here in Wadsworth.

You stupid ass rebellious ministers who don't repent, by my standards, and come unto me will disappear soon.

You are the spawn of Satan who deceived you with the change in makeup.

Maybe it's just me, but the Apostle Dave seems to dish out more stones and snakes than fish and bread.  Probably due to scriptures no longer read or at least not read for a very long time.

I think we get the point.  For every scripture that one things others don't get or won't believe, there are a dozen that can come back to haunt the accuser of such things.  Hey...if the Apostle David has taken on the role of "accuser of the minister and brethren," just who is behind this?  Oh well..never mind. Just had a flash of an old scripture go through my mind.
I have thought about I Corinthians 13 a lot in terms of could the Apostle Paul really have written it.  It is so unlike him in his real life and beliefs that ultimately turned out to be false.  I will give Paul the benefit of the doubt and that over time, with experience, he mellowed and calmed down realizing his big ideas were not always or even rarely ultimate truths.  I Corinthians reflect a changed man before he died.  Can we hope the same for the kooks and nuts of the COG experience who seem to skip vast portions of the New Testament for wallowing in the Old?  I don't know.  

For some reason, reinventing wheels with wooden spokes and iron rims seems to far too many COG "leaders" to be the one true wheel where it is clearly not.  It is outdated and in today's world, even dangerous.  I live a few miles from Michelin Tire Company.  I bet they are not building tires to 1971 standards for 1971 cars.  The rabid COGs however, are and there are nothing but blow outs ahead.

So...let's be careful there leaderboys about telling others what scriptures they rarely if ever read anymore.  You're gonna get a nail in your tread doing that and end up in the ditch. 

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Anonymous said...

whatever the first sentence in the second to last paragraph meant it was good when channeled in the original Aramaic. It did not translate into English..lol. I was heading out the door to work and must have had a brain fart. It spell checked right, it just made no sense.

I am just a man dd

Byker Bob said...

Yep. this is what I was getting at when I responded to one of the Theil items above! Armstrongism never has taught or practiced unconditional love. It's one of the principles that is beyond their comprehension.

I can't imagine God having pointed out that He operates on a totally different plane from humans just so that some arrogant pseudo spiritual guide would use His statement to berate a Child of God, or back him into a corner or false trap.


Douglas Becker said...

Well, now, Dennis, if you were God, wouldn't YOU hide from Dave Pack?