Monday, June 24, 2013

Is God Coming Back To A Greenbean Patch in Wadsworth Or To A City?

Joshua C. Pack on Friday was all giddy about Dale Schurter setting up the worlds most important agricultural program ever to exist.  Joshua said that they would soon be buying land to start this mind-boggling program.

Apparently Joshua thinks his god is coming back to a cornfield or greenbean patch in Wadsworth or the new garden of Eden he is building on his cult compound.

However, Joshua fails to mention that the God of the Bible he claims to know sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much about is not coming back to some cornfield in the middle of Ohio, but to a city.

A teeming city filled with multitudes of people, living in a close environment, going to work, to school, having parties, going to restaurants and doing the normal things people in cities do.  That God is also so pleased with the City that he chooses to live there too.

All that tithe money Joshua Pack is wasting on his okra farm is for naught.  That elderly woman's tithe money could have been used for a warm dinner or paid her rent for another month.

10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.

16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits [about 250feet], according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.

19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.


DennisCDiehl said...

I'm pretty sure the College of Agriculture at Clemson University here in SC and scores of other high end AG schools just might take exception to Dave Pack and Dal Schurter's views and ideas about agriculture.

As I told you privately, I believe if Dave attached the old Big Sandy Digester, designed to process trash into soil, to either end of his food tube, Dave and Dale could keep the Digester busy for years.

In reality, the Digester seemed never quite to work as advertised and fell into disuse. It looked like a Saturn 5 rocket casing with no engines or capsule. It's gotta be somewhere so maybe Dave can have it shipped to Ohio.

Byker Bob said...

There were some other AG breakthroughs during the '60s. Remember Klepfer Miracle Powder? I think HWA had actually shared that with the Egytians and Israelis!

In or about 1967-68 the head honchos of the gardening department on the Pasadena campus were all excited. Just in from Texas was the information that the ag people there had isolated three primary types of bacteria from a cow's digestive system, and had developed a way to disseminate it over fields. In a special shed, they set up what appeared to be a brewery tank from one of the beer factories, and began concocting what became known as "the experiment".

Fast forward a couple of months. Suddenly, it was ready for spreading, and grounds staff filled a special tanker and pump and began broadcasting it all over the dichondra lawns and shrubs. Problem was, the "isolated" cow bacteria shared one notable characteristic with the real thing. As the ever humorous Monte Wolverton was heard to quip after getting a whif, "That stuff smells like somebody's colon!" Another student renamed AC's special grass, calling it diahchondra.

Of course, I had been there the year before, and really didn't notice any substantive difference between the results of the experiment, and feeding the plants with ammonium nitrate. The ammonium nitrate didn't produce any bad odors at the alleged center of cultural enrichment, there in Pasadena, but this was apparently lost on the power structure of the day. Chemical = bad, natural = good, even if the chemicals are simply purified and concentrated substances found in nature.


Anonymous said...

"Remember Klepfer Miracle Powder? I think HWA had actually shared that with the Egytians and Israelis."

Was this an actuality, or just something someone's imagined "Holy Spirit" led one to think is true?

Byker Bob said...

You are going to need to wrestle with and come to terms with your Holy Spirit issues on your own. I can't help you with that, although I will say that He most likely had nothing whatsoever to do with HWA/WCG, and the huge letdown that results from that realization is what has caused much of the disbelief.

As for the unbarbed part of your question, there was a farmer or horticulturalist named Klepfer in WCG, who did develop a type of natural fertilizer that someone in the authority structure of the college or church named after him.

The church was quite taken with the potential of KMP, and sermons were given about how now the church was able to foreshadow to the world the blessings everyone was going to enjoy in the millennium through farming God's way. Obviously, the stuff never got its wings, as a google search produces no pertinent results.

As a side note, John Trechak documented the failure, bankruptcy, and loss of land huge numbers of WCG farmers suffered as a result of being coerced to follow the church-taught farming methods, and much of the blame was laid on Dale Shurter. You have to wonder about the sanity and discernment capabilities of someone attempting to revive such a debacle.