Monday, March 10, 2014

Philadelphia Church of God: What Do Samson, Isaiah, Peter Waldo and King David Have In Common?


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The Philadelphia Church of God is at it again.,  They are rewriting history to make it fit their worldview.  It doesn't matter that it is all historically bankrupt, its true as long as PCG does it.

Gerald Flurry has ordered Ryan Malone to do three "epics" to be performed on his HWA Auditorium stage.



The first production is a one hour show on Peter Waldo.  According to the inept PCG "historians" Waldo was a Catholic bashing rebel-rouser that faced down the Catholic Church.  We all know how the story goes from there.  Its the same one fabricated by Dean Blackwell and others at good old Embarrassing College.

It's those feisty heretics in the mountains of France that were the Waldenses, those sabbath keeping, kosher eating, immersion baptizing, and holy day keeping true Christians that preserved the "truth once delivered."

Never mind the fact that they were a Sunday keeping church.  PCG will portray them as Saturday keepers.

Therefore, the Waldensians did not keep the Sabbath (in the sense of Saturday instead of Sunday) and were not guardians of the "Sabbath Truth” as somebody calls it. The Waldensians never followed the Seventh-day Adventist’s Sabbath but they followed more Paul in Romans 14,5-8. 

We can therefore say very clearly that the Waldensians were not Seventh-day Sabbath keepers and they were not persecuted for keeping Saturday as the Sabbath! Thy were persecuted, [from 1532 (when they joined the Reformation - Angrogna Synod) to 1848 (when they received religious freedom)], because of their Reformed-Calvinistic faith in Christ. Did the Waldenses Keep The 7th Day Sabbath?

Malone writes about Waldo:

Morning Star, a one-hour vocal production about 12th-century Apostle Peter Waldo, will debut in June during the 2014 pcg ministerial conference. The cast includes Junior Ambassadors and Herbert W. Armstrong College voice students. Teenagers attending Philadelphia Youth Camp will perform the musical for entertainment night in July.

“It’s about the calling of an apostle, his work and the education of a generation,” Mr. Malone said. “It would be completely appropriate for anyone of any denomination or faith to watch. Any Christian would see the value in the work of Peter Waldo.” Mr. Malone described Waldo as a loner who broke tradition and faced down the Roman Catholic Church.
Who would have imagined a COG group ever doing a play about Sunday keepers!

Malone's next "epic" is on the book of Isaiah.

The Book of Isaiah is scheduled to premiere next year, with performances on January 1, 3 and 4. The cast will consist of about 70 employees and students. The 2½-hour musical centers around Isaiah’s most active year, when he helped King Hezekiah of Israel through a dual trial: sickness and an invasion threat from Assyria. Mr. Malone said the narrow time frame will help the audience follow the story. “Here’s the threat, here’s the conflict and resolution, and the conclusion,” he said.

Mr. Malone said he is weaving Mr. Flurry’s favorite poetic passages from Isaiah, such as chapters 35 and 40, throughout the plot.
Then the final extravaganza will be a dancing gillie Samson.  We all know that Samson, the one that traveled to Ireland where he learned Irish dance from Jeremiah and Tea Tephi!



Mr. Flurry also commissioned a dance performance; Samson will debut sometime next spring. The approximately one-hour performance will feature the Muggivan School of Irish Dance, composed of several Imperial Academy students. The story is biographical, starting with an angel’s promise to Samson’s barren mother that she would bear a son, and ending with the destruction of the Philistines after Samson collapses the pillars of their pagan temple.
 Will Malone EVER do an epic about Jesus, the man PCG does not know?

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Morning Star? The person identified as the Morning Star is Satan.

Anonymous said...

Or Jesus, depending on which verse you read.

Joe Moeller said...

In Southern France, there were Sabbatarian Lollards who were descended from and loosely related to Waldensians.

It is however incorrect to classify Waldensians as Sabbath Keepers as a class, or as a generalization.

The generalized Waldensian Sabbath concept was first proposed by Ellen G. White in her Great Controversy book, and repeated in Dugger and Dodds "History of the True Church".

Dugger and Dodds book , although circulated amongst Armstrongists is highly inaccurate. The works by the late Richard Nickels in regards to Sabbath keeping history are much more accurate and researched.

Joe Moeller
Cody, WY
(2014 UCG Council- Write In Candidate)

Black Ops Mikey said...

They all died?

Not a promising start....

(minushorny)old EXPCGhag said...

Anonymous said...

Morning Star? The person identified as the Morning Star is Satan.
March 10, 2014 at 12:56 PM

"MORNING STAR" Isn't that interesting?

Ryan Malone is the person that told me and a group of women, "We, meaning >HEADQUARTERS<, AKA(PCG Hierarchy),will probably go over there first, (referring to Jerusalem), and the rest of you will come later!"

"Yea, right!"

(minushorny)old EXPCGhag said...


I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. Revelation 22:16

Christ..."Bright" morning star

Lucifer is just referred to as "morning star"

Stars are either angels or planets

I'm sure Ryan Malone is referring to...
Message to the Church in Thyatira Rev. 2:27...

AND HE SHALL RULE THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON, AS THE VESSELS OF THE POTTER ARE BROKEN TO PIECES, as I also have received authority from My Father; 28and I will give him the morning star. 29'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

All I have to say is ...there has to be more than prophesying and writing music to receive a "morning star" reward.

Byker Bob said...

What amazes me is that our former teachers consistently attacked mythology as it existed within the framework of mainstream Christianity. Yet, in retrospect, they seem to have fabricated and adapted much much more of their own mythology. Accuser=doer?

At least, your average Lutheran will go into tongue in cheek mode when speaking of Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny. Not so with Armstrongites and their Waldenses, Simon Magus, Church eras, and British Israelism. Somehow, in Methodist Sunday school we never were taught that Santa Clause was a restored truth revealed by God's apostle.

BB

Homer said...

Bright Morning Star – This subject has been mentioned here several times in the past. Let’s try it one more time. (Repetition is a form of learning and/or correcting misunderstanding.)

To begin with, Isaiah 14:12 does not refer to “Satan” BTW, the word satan is a transliteration of the Hebrew word; H7854 שׂטן śâṭân saw-tawn' which means “opponent” and is translated in other places as “adversary” and “withstand”. Note: transliteration only gives an approximate spelling and sound of an unknown language to that of a known language. There is no understanding of the meaning of a transliterated word except by tradition. Most, if not all, of us here have been a part of and influenced by the traditions of men or maybe a man. The term “Lucifer” in Isaiah 14:12 is of Latin origin. Might one ask – How did a Latin term/word get into Hebrew scripture? Maybe a study is called for here.

About a week ago, I woke up earlier than normal and looked out my bedroom window, just before sunrise as the horizon was beginning to show a faint sign of light. Just slightly south of due east was a very, very “bright star”. But it wasn’t really a star. It was, and is on most mornings, the planet Venus. THIS is the “light bringer” spoken of in Isaiah 14:12. Venus precedes the sun and in effect – brings the light of the sun. The story here is about a king of Babylon and the writer is using the example of Venus, as an allegory, to describe how Venus tries to outshine the sun and become “most high” like the sun when it is “most high” at noon. But the sun is so much brighter than Venus and it’s reflection of the sun’s light is no longer visible as the sun breaks over the horizon. But wait, there’s more. Venus did not disappear. As the sun begins to set in the west, Venus once again appears as the “evening star”, reflecting the sun’s light and both descend below the horizon into the underworld, or the other side of the earth.

Now, as to “Jesus” being the “bright and morning star” of Rev 22:16. If one has done any research into the cosmos, one will realize that there are many stars in the universe and our sun is just one of those stars. Our sun/star brings light each and every morning. Could Rev 22:16 be a clue as to what Jesus really is? After all, the sun is our “savior”. Without it we would not be alive. We would not even exist to begin with. Our sun brings light and life to the planet each and every day. However, do not think I am a sun-worshiper. That would be in contradiction to Deut, 4:19.

Don't let yourselves be tempted to worship and serve what you see in the sky-the sun, the moon, the stars, or anything else. The LORD your God has given them to all people everywhere.

But maybe it is permissible to worship them if we name those naturally occurring phenomenon as something other than what they are. Like maybe – people.

Maybe – because of the traditions of those who have gone before us – we have misunderstood the allegorical meaning of the book we hold so dear. Maybe, just maybe, there is more to the rest of the story.


Anonymous said...

So the Daystar Christian TV network was apparently named after Satan- which is not surprising, considering the quality of the stupid messages that the nutso Christian preachers on Daystar spew!

Anonymous said...

"Lucifer" was used in the Vulgate several other times than just Isaiah, such as one of the letters of Peter, and it doesnt make sense in context to associate those with some fallen angel. The concept of "Lucifer" being the name of the Satan character is based on some pretty limited reading.

But back to the point, why did PcG call their silly dance presentation that?

old EXPCG hag said...

Anonymous said...

So the Daystar Christian TV network was apparently named after Satan- which is not surprising, considering the quality of the stupid messages that the nutso Christian preachers on Daystar spew!

March 11, 2014 at 9:26 AM

HA! I was thinking this myself...Daystar???Have you noticed they all are dyeing their hair black?

Anonymous said...

Yep.
Apparently, some of Jesus' favorite corporations are Clairol, Revlon, L'Oréal, and Garnier.

old EXPCG hag said...

Malone writs about Waldo...

“It’s about the calling of an apostle, his work and the education of a generation,” Mr. Malone said. “It would be completely appropriate for anyone of any denomination or faith to watch. Any Christian would see the value in the work of Peter Waldo.” Mr. Malone described Waldo as a loner who broke tradition and faced down the Roman Catholic Church.

Hypocrites! Mr. Malone writes: >any ChristianGod's House< AKA Armstrong Auditorium. They probably still can't.
Maybe the earthquakes are hitting there because Gerald Flurry let in Keith Brown, father of "The Five Brown's", whom was charged with sodomy and sexual abuse of his three daughters. Or for that matter, all the other old pervert members running around there part of >the church< Ya thank?

old EXPCG hag said...

old EXPCG hag said...

Malone writs about Waldo...

“It’s about the calling of an apostle, his work and the education of a generation,” Mr. Malone said. “It would be completely appropriate for anyone of any denomination or faith to watch. Any Christian would see the value in the work of Peter Waldo.” Mr. Malone described Waldo as a loner who broke tradition and faced down the Roman Catholic Church.

Hypocrites! Mr. Malone writes: >any ChristianGod's House< AKA Armstrong Auditorium. They probably still can't.
Maybe the earthquakes are hitting there because Gerald Flurry let in Keith Brown, father of "The Five Brown's", whom was charged with sodomy and sexual abuse of his three daughters. Or for that matter, all the other old pervert members running around there part of >the church< Ya thank?
March 14, 2014 at 6:36 AM

This totally don't make any sense at all. Either I had too much wine or there are missing sentences...or both! Where's the trash can thingy Dennis!