Thursday, November 3, 2016

Dave Pack Posts "Prophetic" Timeline for Restored Church of God



Dave Pack is back with his superfantabulous timeline of how the end times will happen.  You will never read a more confusing piece of eschatological nonsense in your entire life.  There are other charts up on the Internet  from the Adventists and other group that make much more sense than what Dave has just put out...IF you are into that kind of stuff.

Dave has his "jesus" returning in a few years where he will rule in Jerusalem at the restored temple with all of Dave's church members assisting him.  After Dave personally walks up the front steps of the new temple to greet his "jesus," he and his little crew of believers will start to reign with Christ and THEN the great tribulation begins.

Announced last week, a detailed prophetic Timeline (Tool #2 of 4), is now available. This downloadable 11x34 inch graphic provides a grand overview that makes plain the sequence of coming major world events—including the very next things God’s people should watch for, no matter their organization. It visually shows how and when the Kingdom of God arrives, and thoroughly details the correct placement of every large prophecy, and many others, starting from the apostasy of the 1990s, and continuing through the Great White Throne Judgment. It brings to light long overlooked and previously unknown elements of Bible prophecy and the Kingdom of God.

Starting this coming week Dave will be posting transcripts of his 50+ sermons where he talks in detail about this timeline.  If you think his chart is a mishmash of silliness, just wait till you read his hundreds of points that the sets out to prove himself right.  Jesus truly must be appalled!


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38 comments:

Byker Bob said...

Why, how excrement!

BB

Anonymous said...

"Dave Pack is back with his superfantabulous timeline of how the end times will happen.  You will never read a more confusing piece of eschatological nonsense in your entire life. "

Amen!

Ronco

Anonymous said...

Kind of a big, "uh huh...sure, fine, whatever you say. Now take your meds."

Gross Filth said...

Pack is setting the stage to get to the point in the chart where Jesus speaks to his flock. Pack will announce that we have arrived at that point and that he is the one to whom Jesus will be speaking.

Anonymous said...

Dave himself must know that this is all gibberish, coming from his own imagination.
The man has truly gone nuts. How many other ministers are out there, who are like him, but are wearing the mask of normalcy. Reminds me of the 1930s book 'The mask of Sanity' by Cleckly. It's in the public domain, freely downloadable. I have half the book. It's interesting.

Hoss said...

Death of Mr. Armstrong

Got that right. There's a business expression, Things that start well end badly.

Decades ago, a musical ministry came to my mother's church. Above the evangelist, who played a theremin, saws, wine glasses, beer bottles, jugs, whatever, was draped a prophetic timeline. You could buy a postcard-size copy for $1, but when I tried to buy one, I was told they weren't for sale on Sunday. Unlike Dave's timeline, their chart had scary pictures...

Anonymous said...

Gross Filth said...
Pack is setting the stage to get to the point in the chart where Jesus speaks to his flock. Pack will announce that we have arrived at that point and that he is the one to whom Jesus will be speaking."

Perhaps as the psychosis and delusion unfolds and reaches its obvious conclusion, Dave will not just be the one TO whom Jesus will be speaking , but Dave will be the one THROUGH whom Jesus will be speaking. Since no Jesus will actually show up, He will manifest in Dave's mind as do all these and previously complicated and made up prophetic scenarios have. It's the second last title and Biblical persona Dave can claim.

The man will come unhinged.

Black Ops Mikey said...

David Pack is simply a greater extreme than Herbert Armstrong.

You know, we all need to take a step back and consider what damage Herbert Armstrong and all his psycho hirelings have done to our collective health.

With such a long exposure to such extreme craziness, each of us would do well to consider what is sane and how to achieve the sanity we need.

Leaving these crazy kooks is certainly a step in the right direction.

Nevertheless, watching the inevitable meltdown of psychosis is instructive, if not interesting -- and certainly a cautionary tale for those of us who don't want to go stone cold bat crazy nuts.

Connie Schmidt said...

SING ALONG TIME! - Sing to the tune of "For What Its Worth" / Buffalo Springfield 1967

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5JCrSXkJY

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's Pack with a chart over there
Telling me I got to beware

I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the Pack, come, and put you away

I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Connie Schmidt said...

Interesting how the link to Packs chart is now a dead link. Guess he doesn't want the public to get wind of his madness.

Anonymous said...


“Dave Pack is back with his superfantabulous timeline of how the end times will happen. You will never read a more confusing piece of eschatological nonsense in your entire life.”


Surely you meant to say scatological.

Anonymous said...

I took a quick peek - no more than 5 seconds and didn't didn't have the stomach to read more taurine excreta.

Anonymous said...

For those of you who have a hard copy of the book Pack wrote "The History of the True Church - Where is it Today" please note the book has been re-titled as "Where Is the True Church? and Its Incredible History!"

The book is available for reading here:

https://rcg.org/books/thogtc.html

Read the opening pages of the chapter on Laodicea. It's a real eye-opener. I decided to read that one chapter last evening and he condemns himself with his own words that he condemned others.

I have a few of the books in Acrobat format....

-ex RCG

Anonymous said...

Part one of the book I referenced above copy/paste:


Chapter 12

After the death of Herbert W. Armstrong, the Worldwide Church of God continued to follow the truths that had been placed into the Church under his leadership.

But this continuance lasted for no more than about one year.

Like Paul at the end of his life (Acts 20:17-38), Mr. Armstrong had also, in essence, “warned with tears,” for more than three years, of what could happen after his “departing.” He was most concerned with what could take place again if he were no longer in the picture.

His concerns proved to be well-founded. It quickly became obvious that wolves had entered the corporate sheepfold that Christ had founded through Mr. Armstrong. No one could have possibly imagined what would happen—nor how fast.

The apostasy foretold to come at the end of the age ushered in the Laodicean Era. It was intended by God to be a great test upon His people. Christ had to allow such a test to distinguish real brethren and true ministers from tares and imposters.

Now we would find out if the loyal ministers (and brethren) would remain loyal in Mr. Armstrong’s absence. I Corinthians 11:19 (which summarized this situation) reads, “For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.”

The brethren who loved the truth would eventually start gravitating together outside the Worldwide Church of God, but the process would take over a decade to culminate.
Deplorable Condition

We should first look at the description in Revelation 3:14-22 of the final and Laodicean era of God’s Church. These verses describe the awful condition of God’s people at the end of the age. Notice Christ’s strong correction and admonishment:

“I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot: I would you were cold or hot. So then because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of My mouth. Because you say, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and know not that you are wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel you to buy of Me gold tried in the fire, that you may be rich; and white raiment, that you may be clothed, and that the shame of your nakedness do not appear; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear My voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with Me” (vs. 15-20).

This scripture indicates that the Laodiceans are not cold—they do have some zeal and some understanding of the truth, in contrast with the apostates who threw everything away. To these prosperous, self-sufficient brethren, who are content with their own self-prescribed version of the truth, Christ says, “I counsel you to buy of Me gold tried in the fire, that you may be [spiritually] rich…”

Anonymous said...

The green type for starters is off putting. It's not laid out well and will confuse more than it helps.

Anonymous said...

Part 2

An Apostasy Comes

Some important trends of the apostasy need to be summarized. In the latter half of the 1980s, most of the brethren were blissfully unaware that a hostile takeover of the Church had already occurred at the level of highest authority. But it was only a matter of time until it was made known. During this time, some of the preliminary doctrinal changes were subtly made, and the conspirators at first moved cautiously.

In fact, as early as 1987, beginning with the meaning of the Passover symbols, changes started to occur—with these early errors often referred to as “clarifications.” Like all truths of God, changes invariably affected other doctrines. Altering or discarding one doctrine meant altering or discarding the others connected to it—and once these were changed, doctrines and traditions connected to them “had” to be changed as well.

One by one, all the teachings of God’s Church were either slowly altered, almost matter-of-factly, and then done away with completely, or discarded outright. At first, these changes began slowly—but they eventually escalated, furiously assaulting God’s people, and at unprecedented speed. All doctrine was openly said to be “on the table.” Brethren were initially told that they could “believe anything, but just stay in the Church and don’t talk about it to others.” But, for instance, anyone who taught that Christians must keep the Sabbath was to be disfellowshipped. This was also true of ministers who spoke out against other changes.

(NOTE: Sound familiar?)

The Architecture of Destruction

Here are some of the things that took place in the Church after Mr. Armstrong’s “departing”:

All previous baptisms of new attendees from churches outside God’s Church were to be accepted as valid without question.

Many of the more doctrinally sound evangelists and senior ministers were demoted, retired, fired, or transferred far from Headquarters.

All Ambassador Colleges were eventually closed, due to the church’s financial implosion. The youth (Y.E.S.) Bible curriculum was replaced with a Protestant course containing teachings on Sunday observance, Christmas, and Easter.

(NOTE: Pack has systematically destroyed the true, Biblical meaning of the Fall Holy Days, destroyed the timeline, destroyed the timeline of the 6000 years, destroyed the timeline of the Church eras, and so on. Now he wants to change Satan's punishment, the 'new' meaning of Grace.......and the hits just keep on coming!)

(NOTE: As it has been said so often by Mr HWA: You know when you're in the presence of the destroyer because of the destruction.)
-ex RCG

Anonymous said...

Part 3:

(NOTE: I think I know why Scripture says that satan is the author of lies and murder - and that the two are mentioned together: because lies murder truth. Lies murder confidence and knowledge. Lies murder God's Holy inspired Scriptural knowledge. Lies murder trust of the ministry and makes us wary, unsure and frightened to speak up.)

The Architecture of Destruction

Here are some of the things that took place in the Church after Mr. Armstrong’s “departing”:

All previous baptisms of new attendees from churches outside God’s Church were to be accepted as valid without question.

Many of the more doctrinally sound evangelists and senior ministers were demoted, retired, fired, or transferred far from Headquarters.

All Ambassador Colleges were eventually closed, due to the church’s financial implosion. The youth (Y.E.S.) Bible curriculum was replaced with a Protestant course containing teachings on Sunday observance, Christmas, and Easter.

Church Bible studies were cancelled at the local pastor’s discretion. Secular speakers began to appear at the Feast of Tabernacles. Following the formats of the churches of the world, church services began to include much more supposed “gospel” music and “prayer.” New baptism, marriage and funeral ceremonies were released. A new hymnal was produced that included many Protestant “favorites.” Pentecostal-like prayer meetings were added and often held weekly, with both men and women leading. Eventually, all biblically-based Feast sites were cancelled, and the entire format and meaning of the Holy Days were altered to fit traditional Christianity.

In addition, The Good News magazine, The Plain Truth Newsstand Program, The World Tomorrow telecast, and the 32-lesson Bible Correspondence Course were eventually discontinued. All the books, booklets and articles that Mr. Armstrong had written were removed from circulation and cast from local Church libraries. All publications began to reflect sexual and political correctness. Quotes from Protestant ministerial journals and secular experts filled all WCG literature and telecasts. Money, not faith, determined which doors the Church walked through.

(NOTE: Some of this has already happened, some will happen soon...)

Those of the true Church—not to be confused with the corporate Worldwide Church of God—faced a life-changing decision: leave and, as Mr. Armstrong often said he would do if necessary, “walk across the street and start over,” or stay and be devoured by “grievous wolves” occupying the highest ranks of the ministry.

Tragically, following history’s pattern, most members would choose the latter!

Anonymous said...

Part 4:

History Repeats Itself

After the original apostles died, you learned that the false church did come in and largely destroy the visible Church, and because of persecution, often including threats, imprisonment, torture and death, most people gave in and departed from the truth of God’s Way, and therefore from the true Church, during the period called “The Lost Century.” Yet, as Jesus promised, His Church has always survived. It has never completely disappeared or been destroyed—though it has certainly remained a “little flock” that has kept His Word, and the Church that has been kept in God’s name.

Peter warned, “But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you” (II Pet. 2:1-3).

Before his death, Paul explicitly warned the Ephesian elders to understand what would happen after he was gone. Notice: “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to feed the Church of God...For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them” (Acts 20:28-30).


(NOTE: Again - sound familiar?)

Anonymous said...

Cont'd:

All that I have described here was actually prophesied to occur. Paul was also inspired to foretell and warn of this latter-day falling away just before the Return of Christ. Notice what he recorded: “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day [the Return of Christ described two verses earlier] shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition” (II Thes. 2:3). (The man of sin referred to here is one who appears at the end of the age, not in the first century.)

Paul explained that this falling away would affect all who “received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved” (II Thes. 2:10). The Greek word for “falling away” is apostasia, meaning literally “to defect from the truth.”

When God called me, this prophesied “falling away” had, of course, not yet occurred. While all in the Church had been warned it was coming, most still became entangled in false teachings because they had not stayed close to God, as they should have, through fervent prayer, Bible study, meditation and regular fasting. They were caught unaware.

Reality Crashes Home!

By the middle of the 1990s, the realization of what was happening struck home to those who were led by God’s Spirit. Now it had become apparent to all who had eyes to see and ears to hear that a full-blown apostasy—this time, a wholesale departure from the truth—was taking place. The doctrinal changes had moved far beyond the liberals’ watering down of true doctrines that had occurred in the mid-1970s.

In place of the truth, a newly reinvented form of evangelical Protestantism had been presented to the Church. The instigators no longer needed to make any effort to conceal the conspiracy. Mr. Armstrong and everything that he stood for were openly ridiculed by the apostate leaders.

Through the years, Mr. Armstrong had thundered to the Church, “I don’t think most of you get it!” Little did he know how right he actually was.

(NOTE: Please know that I'm not spamming you, I want to put this up here as a testimony of what Pack wrote - just in case he decides to "edit" that book...because he condemns himself by himself.)

Anonymous said...

Connie - good comment (re For What it's worth)!

That's why I'm posting as one of the Anonymous posters here and have not identified my Church area. It's not that I'm afraid of vandalism or abuse. I just can live without phone calls, mail, e-mail or other non-physical forms of harassment. A lot of us in the Church area I live in in the late 80s went through a lot - a lot - of mental, emotional and spiritual abuse by the ministry who came in when our beloved minister was transferred out.)

Anonymous said...

Interesting how the link to Packs chart is now a dead link. Guess he doesn't want the public to get wind of his madness.

I like the Scripture that says 'be sure your sin will find you out.' And internally the brethren are aware of his doctrinal sins, all the lies he's feeding everyone and the fear he's generating among the brethren.

This is not unity - he's sowing division, discord and fear. Soon enough though all of it will end up for the public to see - just like Wikileaks where everything is being leaked to the public.

Anonymous said...

Pack is setting the stage to get to the point in the chart where Jesus speaks to his flock. Pack will announce that we have arrived at that point and that he is the one to whom Jesus will be speaking."

Perhaps as the psychosis and delusion unfolds and reaches its obvious conclusion, Dave will not just be the one TO whom Jesus will be speaking , but Dave will be the one THROUGH whom Jesus will be speaking. Since no Jesus will actually show up, He will manifest in Dave's mind as do all these and previously complicated and made up prophetic scenarios have. It's the second last title and Biblical persona Dave can claim.


You hit the nail on the head. Pack did say that Jesus would come to HQ. He'd be invisible for a while, then show himself as a man. So whatever Pack says is supposed to be held as engraved in granite because it is supposed to be Jesus's speaking to him. Talk about delusional.....

...but in Pack's muddled mind 'any day now' the Church will flee to Jerusalem.

If Mr HWA was alive he'd mark and disfellowship Pack in a heartbeat just the way he did with the unfaithful, lying ministry back in the late 70s and early 80s.

Anonymous said...

Dave himself must know that this is all gibberish, coming from his own imagination.
The man has truly gone nuts. How many other ministers are out there, who are like him, but are wearing the mask of normalcy. Reminds me of the 1930s book 'The mask of Sanity' by Cleckly. It's in the public domain, freely downloadable. I have half the book. It's interesting.


Back in the late 80s I had a mid-life career 'crisis' and decided to follow up on a career in Forensics. One of the many courses I had to take was a course in Abnormal Psychology in which Cleckley's book was mandatory...Fascinating book.

Minimalist said...


Along its timeline, a LOT of Dave's(Jesus') enemies die!

Anonymous said...

Connie - the link does exist.

https://rcg.org/sep/pdf/Prophetic_Timeline.pdf

I never should have deleted all the garbage sermons of his. It's all evidence of his madness. I remember in one of the sermons he said the True and splinter churches will be filled with wizards who will cast spells and do magic in much the same way Simon Magus could levitate and Pharoah was able to turn his rod into a snake. Pack even said he'd have to be able to do magic too.

As for other booklets and so on in Acrobat format, I have a half dozen or so on my drive that I hadn't deleted yet, and I know I have others as well as sermons he gave years ago on CD that I hadn't gotten around to deleting or throwing out. RCG sent out CDs to brethren that lived too far to drive to the nearest church area. I'll have to dig them out - I might rip them and upload them to Dropbox soon - as evidence of his slide into insanity.

Anonymous said...

https://rcg.org/sep/pdf/Prophetic_Timeline.pdf

I find Alice in Wonderland more easily understandable and compelling than the so-called prophetic timeline for RCG.

Byker Bob said...

He certainly seems to have modified the Petra doctrine, and the return of Christ-tribulation timeline, although I can't imagine to what end. It's not as if his small group would crowd UCG, LCG, PCG, or the COGawa out of Petra, assuming that those groups ever take the plunge.

My advice for anyone in the ACOGs is don't go to Petra or anywhere else your splinter group leader designates unless God supernaturally transports you there. That's about the only way in which you could be assured that there are no stonings or Kool Aid.

BB

Anonymous said...

Comment regarding Dave Pack's theory of Jesus Christ's "returning in a few years" stated: "...Dave has his "jesus" returning in a few years where he will rule in Jerusalem at the restored temple with all of Dave's church members assisting him.  After Dave personally walks up the front steps of the new temple to greet his "jesus," he and his little crew of believers will start to reign with Christ and THEN the great tribulation begins..."

Yes, that is Dave's "jesus," another Jesus. And returning in a few years? That particular Jesus is a loser, another Jesus, a false Jesus. Let's ASSuME that "jesus" does come return in a few years. What will that "jesus" do a 1,000 years later when Satan is loosed from the bottomless pit, takes over Jerusalem, ravishes the women via some of the population then alive? Jerusalem will have been taken over, so where will that "jesus" be with his little helpers? Why didn't they protect Jerusalem and its populace? Why will Satan and his angels be so successful at the end of the 1,000 years when the entire world is again deceived?

In Dave Pack's theory, where will his "jesus" be?

According to scripture at the end of 1,000 years that "jesus" and/or any other "jesus" will have done a lousy job doing anything with anybody during that 1,000 years. The false theories need to change!

Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations NO MORE, TILL the thousand years should be fulfilled: AND AFTER THAT he must be loosed a little season.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished..."

7 And when the thousand years ARE EXPIRED, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
:8 And shall go out to DECEIVE the nationS which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Where is Dave's "jesus," another Jesus and a loser, at this time??????????

Time will tell...

John

Sweetblood777 said...

How embarrassing to his members.

Pack is so vain that he probably thinks that Yahshua will turn to him and say, 'Look I'm been keeping your throne warm for you.'

Please, please sedate him and lock him up ASAP

Anonymous said...

November 4, 2016 at 7:58 AM
I see that you have that "weird al yankovich" parody gene too.

DBP

Anonymous said...

"Talk about delusional....."

Sociopaths,...be it talking to God or talking to famous dead people, it is an exercise for them to magnify their entitlement. There has got to be better ways for us to help prevent the "worst of us" who seem to manage to get on top all to often.

DBP

Anonymous said...

9045AM the point that stood out to me about Cleckleys book, was the need of these people to occasionally take off their masks and take a 'holiday' by spending a few days in the moral gutter. It seems Daves 'holidays' are becoming both more frequent and longer.

Anonymous said...

When the second coming didn't occur according to the JW timeline, they claimed that Christ did in fact return, but only secretly. Presumably Dave will claim the same, and insist that Christ talks daily to him alone.

Hoss said...

And of course it's been done before, as HWA published his timeline in the Plain Truth, the June-July 1934 copy, page 3. The "End of Age" was marked for 1936.

Something HWA forgot when he wrote his Autobiography was that the early Plain Truth did have a price for distribution: $3 per hundred.

Anonymous said...

I have a 6th sense. 'I see dead people,' err, make that I see dead broke people, fleeced by Dave.

Anonymous said...


Jesus warned (in Matthew 7:15-20, NIV) to:

Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them.

Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

Jesus warned (in Matthew 24:10-11, NIV) that:

At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.

All the false prophets among all the Sunday-keeping churches really should not be of any danger to the Sabbath-keeping COG people, who should simply ignore all of them and all of their noise. After all, what could any of them ever possibly know?

The greatest danger to Sabbath-keeping COG people comes from within the so-called COGs themselves.

Gerald Flurry orders his followers to break up their own families, cut off their own relatives, and associate with old PCG sex perverts instead. Thus, PCG members disobey the commandment of God and dishonor their own parents. PCG members deny the true faith and behave worse than unbelievers by abandoning their own relatives. Then, PCG members ignore what the apostle Paul said and associate with unrepentant, old, sex perverts in the PCG. Anything goes in the PCG, as long as it is evil, and as long as the PCG members remember to praise and worship That Runt with the umpteen tall titles that he gave himself. What a satanic mess little Gerald has made of everything!

David Pack shouts at his followers to send him everything they have, and then to borrow more money from their banks and credit cards so they can send in even more money than they really have. Dave can then use these income statistics to “prove” that the RCG is the one true cult that is really being blessed for living Satan's way of greedily getting what rightfully belongs to others. Dave suggests that his destitute RCG members can then skip town without paying their debts, and can hide out in Jerusalem. Better yet, and more likely, the spent RCG members can get expelled from the RCG at this point and become “bums” outside of the RCG so they do not reflect badly on the RCG's high quality. The real truth is that some leaders have a real knack for doing a good scorched earth policy. What satanic devastation Dave leaves behind everywhere he goes!

Continued below...

Anonymous said...


...continued from above.

Ronald Weinland wastes his followers' time with silly, wrong, prophetic guesses that always fail. At least they are relatively short-term, wrong, prophetic guesses. These days, after waiting so many decades already, everyone is too impatient for any more of the 15 to 20 year wrong, prophetic guesses. Of course, too many short-term, wrong, prophetic guesses can add up and waste just as much time as a few long-term, wrong, prophetic guesses. You just do not get the truth from a false witness like ex-con Ron. What a writer of short-term, satanic fiction Ron has been to his prediction addicted COG-PKG followers!

Bob Thiel talks his followers into looking to demons, pagans, Mayans, Nigerians, and (worst of all) Catholics in their search for useless, wrong, prophetic tidbits. CCG members act like they have been converted to the dark side. Why bother looking to God or the Bible when there are demons and pagans everywhere who like to chirp and mutter and pretend that they are really onto something with their wrong, prophetic guesses? What a satanic twister Bob is!

The bad examples set by the raging false prophets on the so-called COG scene, who arose speaking perverse things to draw away people after themselves, suggests that the PENALTY and the PUNISHMENT for following false prophets like themselves can be EXTREMELY SEVERE in this life already. Any additional Lake of Fire treatment later on for having followed and supported false prophets in this life might just mercifully put a follower of folly out of his massive misery.




Hoss said...

Bob Thiel talks his followers...Catholics...

For the roll out of the Catholic related posts, you may need to blame Rod Meredith. In one of Bob's sagas of the who, what, when, where of his departure from LCG, he noted that Rod read a Catholic prophecy. The prophecy apparently mentioned some end-time character making trouble for the Catholic Church, to Rod said to Bob, "That could be you".

So, he may be trying to make the prophecy be about himself. As for the demons, pagans, Mayans, Nigerians, we watch and wait...