Thursday, July 27, 2017

The German's Are Coming! The German's Are Coming! Oh Noes!!!!!!!!!!



Where would the Church of God splinter personality cults be without their favorite bogeyman who is just itching to unleash untold misery upon the United States?  If it is not Satan and his minions, it is rampaging Chinese, Muslims, or those Germans.

It is surprising that the German invaders would be something that most COG's would be cautious in promoting.  Even though with the abject failure of Herbert Armstrong's prediction that Hitler was alive in South America where he was rallying his troops for an emanate invasion, Hitler died and Herbert died, and the myth still gets promoted as a tool to scare members into giving the fear-mongers more money.

The biggest proponent of this myth right now is Unordained Elijah, Elisha, Amos, Joshua, Habakkuk, false prophet and certified liar, Bob Thiel.   Today he is hyperventilating over a new video game out that has Germans invading the United States.  A stupid video game and the deluded false prophet go into to hysterics.

Will Germans ever control the streets of the USA? Well, a popular video game somewhat promotes this view:

Wolfenstein II creative director reveals more about a Nazified America

July 27, 2017
There’s a new preview out for Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus, and it will give you the creeps. In fact, it will make you so angry that you’ll have no compunctions blasting the Nazis who have taken over America in this upcoming video game.
Just as it did with Wolfenstein: The New World Order in 2014, Machine Games is flexing its creativity in showing what America would look like if the Nazis had won World War II and went on to conquer the United States. You’ll see Americans kowtowing to the Nazi officers, and Klansmen roaming the streets freely. …

From that, apostate Thiel has this to say:

How would the USA really be like under German domination?
Well, although I have not actually played the related video games, from what I have read about them the reality will be worse than the games portray.
Why do I say that?
Because of what Jesus warned:
15 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened. (Matthew 24:15-22) 
As usual, the epic lair has to proof-text and pick out scripture that supports he deluded reasoning.

When those pesky Germans show up it is going to be worse than the game could have imagined.  Apostate Thiel continues with his hyperventilating bit:

The Bible also warns that the time will come when ‘friends’ from Europe/Germany will be part of the destruction of the USA. Notice a couple of supporting prophecies related to that:
2… All her friends have dealt treacherously with her; They have become her enemies. (Lamentations 1:2b)
Could Germany actually win militarily in a conflict with the USA?
Yes.
But, before getting into reasons why, regarding the first Wolfenstein game, notice the following about its plot:
Three years after the destruction of the Black Sun portal, the Nazis have deployed advanced technologies, enabling them to turn the tide against the Allies. (Wolfenstein: The New Order. Wikipedia, accessed 07/27/17)
This is not quite what will happen, but two of the parallels to prophecy are striking.
How so?
The deluded false prophet sees a great beast rising out of the sea to wreak havoc long with Baron Gutenberg and the Hadron Collider.


The ‘sea’ the Beast rises out of is the Mediterranean Sea (cf. Joshua 9:1; 23:4; Ezekiel 47:13-16); see also Europa, the Beast, and the Book of Revelation and/or watch Can You Prove that the Beast to Come is European? Notice that the military power of the Beast was something that the world will marvel, be astonished about.
Why?
Because no one really thought that the European Beast power had the military ability to do what it did.

The False Prophet of Africa ends with this:

A power like Germany speaks a language that most in the USA do not understand. Germany is a nation from afar of the USA. It is a nation that will be involved in the destruction of the USA.
The coming destruction and domination by Germany will be worse than the Wolfenstein video games indicate. 
It apparently will not be long till the Germans invade the Five Cities region of California and set up their HQ in the most glorious Church of God ever to exist.  The Germans will be so in awe of Thiel's prophetic utterances that they will preserve Thiel's HQ and run their invasion of the U.S. from there.

Fun days are ahead!



54 comments:

I Knew Bob Thiel In LCG said...

Bob Thiel is a blithering idiot. Now you see why those of us in LCG got so sick of him and rejoiced when he was kicked out. His prophetic knowledge is right up there with my dog. He wags his tail and salivates when he utters this kind of garbage and if you pat him on the head and say "Good Boy!" he calms down for a while.

Byker Bob said...

Thiel is the abomination of defecation!

The British Royal family are of German heritage, and the majority US DNA is German. Isn't Donald Trump actually Donald Drumpf?

Is this the way the Theiliebopper ascends to prophethood? By regurgitating German Assyrianism from Herbert W. Armstrong? Good luck with that.

Now, President Trump could turn the world against the USA by continuing to be a hardliner climate change denier, as the next stages scientists feared on the Larsen C ice shelf in Antarctica now kick into play. But, then again, reality has nothing to do with the theories or prophecies of HWA.

BB

Redfox712 said...

It is just awful how so many within the COGs continue to promote this ridiculous allegation that Germans will soon conquer the United States. It also strikes me as pathetic that Theil is citing a video game to promote this inaccurate and inflammatory claim.

Also the Germans are not Assyrians. That claim is also wrong. There are still Assyrians in the Middle East. They have still preserved their identity as a distinctive community.

Incidentally Theil is a name originating from German and Dutch.

Hoss said...

Bob's affair with prophecy is a sideshow that has been given center stage.
A quick look shows that Bob's Bible News Prophecy videos are more popular than CCOG videos, and very, very few of them have over 1000 views.

Anonymous said...

For most of my life people of the USA have feared other nations. This would include the USSR, Iraq, Iran, & Japan. Now, I think many (including myself) fear our own nation & leaders.

Germany & most of Europe is a laughingstock! They are being taken over by Muslims & aren't even fighting back. Regarding prophesy, the COG had better come up with a Plan B.

Anonymous said...

LCG is funny. They tell their people not to read other "Christian" materials, while their own writers plagiarize from Flurry and even from mainstream Protestant sources (as in the latest Living Church News).

The ACOGs cannot win. When they recycle old Herbism, they become more and more dated. When they copy modern televangelists, they may fool current mushroom-members but they won't impress potential new members. It's a dying movement, that can only survive by repudiating HWA, but in repudiating HWA it might as well just shut down and start over.

Hoss said...

Bob revealed another amazing connection between Germany and US invasion: Germany is far away, and most in the US don't speak German.
So? Well, Deut. 28:49 says, The LORD will bring a nation against you from afar, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flies, a nation whose language you will not understand.
The story that German almost became the official language is a fanciful tale (it had to do with proposed multilingual documents) but about 50% in the USA claim some German ancestry (for me, 25%), and over 1 million speak German (ich spreche etwas Deutsch). But... over 50% of Germans speak English!
The two countries geographically most distant from the USA ("from the end of the earth") are Australia and Indonesia (I understand Strine but not Bahasa Indonesia).

RSK said...

I got curious as to exactly how the Assyrian-German connection was supported (I remember HWA literature saying that, of course, but didnt recall any evidence offered).

Its rather unwieldy. No surprise.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria_and_Germany_in_Anglo-Israelism

I know pork eating on Thiel said...

The Germans are already here, 46 million of them are US citizens. They make up 26% of the non Hispanic white population in the US. Thiel is a complete moron if he believes these citizens will suddenly turn and put on the jackboots and start rounding up improperly named "continuing" Church of God members here and in Africa.

Sweetblood777 said...

The only NAZIs that still exist are all under cover. If you are one of the wise, you would detect them in all the cogs, falsely called ministers. They rape and plunder the minds of innocent sheep, while they rob them leaving almost nothing left for the flock to live on.

The chief Nazi is a tall skinny dude that packs so much shit, that when he begins throwing it, none can escape it.

Hoss said...

I know pork:
A decade ago I was in a blog discussion over the same topic, and asked, Would a Catholic-dominated European power nuke US cities, killing millions of Catholics? and How are millions of people from all over the country going to be transported to Europe as slaves?

For the first question, I remember the answer was yes, and for the second - I don't remember, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was they'd walk...

Anonymous said...

The XCOGs have always over emphasized prophesy to keep their members cowed with fear.
Christ by contrast wants His followers to have a sound mind.

The Painful Truth said...

The next great war that Germany will fight will be with France after the EU melts down.
There have been three times that war between France and Germany have erupted – 1870, 1914, and 1940. Give it another decade and these 2 will go to kill one another once again.

Thiel is an idiot and that is the real fact here!

Connie Schmidt said...

Silly Bob! Its Liechtenstein that will be invading America, not Germany!

Anonymous said...

Well it's a good thing I'm in South America. So if the Germans do invade you guys at least you can take comfort in the fact I'm down here laying out on the beach soaking up the sun and drinking margaritas.

Helen Wheels said...

It's funny to me, this kind of throwback to 1940's era HWA. Especially when we have national security concerns in the US like we've never seen before due to an administration that looks more and more like a compromised puppet of the Russian government every day.

Lake of Fire Church of God said...

NO2HWA said, " If it is not Satan and his minions, it is rampaging Chinese, Muslims, or those Germans."

MY COMMENT - I don't ever remember in 1960s/1970s Radio/Worldwide Church of God the preaching that Islamic Jihadists would someday be a threat to the USA. Always the Germans attacking America in 1972 to kick off the Great Tribulation. When 9/11 occurred, after getting over the initial shock and trauma from the 9/11 attack, I said to myself, "They don't look German!"

Richard

Anonymous said...

Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed by fire from heaven for their homosexual lifestyle. It was a warning to a 21 century nuclear armed world. Since the 'culture war' has been lost, a nuclear war is coming. This has nothing to do with Herb and his band of merry men-minister thieves.

Anonymous said...

Here's something I wrote this morning on Facebook before I'd even seen this post. I think it's pretty typical of all ACOG stories:

"What led me into "god addiction? I had been quite the sceptic up until I came across that stupid "Plain Truth" magazine at my uncle's home in 1952 with the sensational headline "Hitler did not die!" It was pure Police Gazette type tabloid bullshit, but it suckered in a lot of people. I was one of them.
There was no arguing with the fact that what people worshipped was nothing more than warmed over paganism, but it never occurred to inexperienced and basically theologically ignorant me that I was falling for something that had the same kind of roots in ancient Canaanite multi-god religion.
I was assured that I was one of the especially "called out" ones tasked with bringing "the truth" to a deceived world. That made the sheltered and socially deprived and backward ranch kid I was something special, and that really appealed to my all-wise, now-enlightened but woefully underdeveloped eighteen-year-old intellect.
I'd been "called." Out of all those deceived masses of the world, an omnipotent god had singled me out to be a part of his "endtime" work of warning the world about the coming apocalypse.
In the interim, I've come to see just how insane it all was, but it didn't look that way back then anymore than the thousand year Reich looked insane to the Hitler Youth of the 1930s and 1940s. They were going to change and save the world too. We know how that turned out, and what I got suckered into didn't fare any better."

Allen C. Dexter

Anonymous said...

8.17 AM
Do you really think that if the Nazis and friends had won WW 2, that they would have left South America alone? All that nice farmland. No one will be safe if WW3 and its planet wide plundering takes place.

NO2HWA said...

Richard: The Muslim hoard predictions have entered the COG prophetic timeline in this time period. Flurry and others look to rampaging Muslims uniting with Germans and others to wreak havoc here and abroad. Add to that the idiocy of Bob Thiel's Chinese hoards driving across newly paved roads into Europe and we have the perfect storm waiting to happen, Germans, Muslins, Chinese, Baron Guttenberg and the Hadron Collider. WWIII

Near_Earth_Object said...

The idea that Germany is modern day Assyria is just as fallacious as the idea that the USA is modern day Israel. Both ideas come from the same pseudo-history developed by Herman Hoeh and which is has long since denounced.

A cursory study of genetics is enough to convince anyone who is in touch with reality that the Germans did not come from the Middle East and are not Semitic. They are not the right haplogroup for this odd idea. The whole thing about Trier and Ninus is legendary and does not alter the genetic fact of Germany's genetic heritage.

What remains vital and energetic is the use of this erroneous idea in the "medicine show" deception about prophecy sustained by Armstrongite organizations to raise money.
I am saddened that people believe in such bizarre things as British-Israelism and Donald Trump as President.

Hoss said...

Connie wrote Its Liechtenstein that will be invading America

Close, but it will actually be the Duchy of Grand Fenwick.

Not A Fan Of Armstrong said...

One thing about it Dexter, you can't tell me or anybody else what to do or not do. If I want to believe in an higher power or not, I don't have to have ANY BODY'S permission and that includes you.

Byker Bob said...

Armstrongism CAUSED the jihadists, Richard. There have been many articles and strategy papers tracing radical Islam back to Dennis Rohan's act of arson upon the Al Aqsa Mosque. It infuriated many Muslims, and convinced them that they were not getting proper respect, and could easily be overrun unless they stood up for themselves.

BB

True Bread said...

so much nonsense from Theil....when it is so simple to see:

first Reich: Ceasars
second Reich: Napoleon
third Reich: Hitler
fourth Reich: Trump (USA/Israel/NATO) and the final Reich,btw

don't tell Dr Bob though...he'll rip me off for sure...!!!

Near_Earth_Object said...

The fact that the true Assyrians live today in the Middle East, are haplogroup J like the Jews and other Middle Easterners and are small in population demonstrates that the prophecies concerning Assyria have come and gone. This small group of Semitic people, now mostly Christian, are not going to rise up to challenge North America.

We have more to fear from Donald Trump's mentors, the Russians. But, alas, these Russians are fellow Indo-Europeans and are not even mentioned in the Bible. All of Noah's descendants were haplogroup J (it is biologically impossible for them to be otherwise) including Tubal and Meschech. The Russians are principally haplogroup R1a and are far removed from the Noachian clans that lived in the Middle East. In fact the Russians are the same people as the central and eastern Germans. (The idea that Russians are Japhethic and, hence, racially different from Germans is an error on the part of Herman Hoeh. Hoeh did not have genetic research to inform his work or he might have come up with something much different.) The Bible is focused on the Noachian clans and in particular the Jews and everybody else is just referred to as Gentile, including the British people and their Russian and German cousins.

A few hours studying genetics and one is led to the conclusion that the Biblical Table of Nations is either malarkey or refers to a small population of related people who lived relatively recently in human history. I believe the latter and this is compatible with genetics.

Anonymous said...

"One thing about it Dexter, you can't tell me or anybody else what to do or not do. If I want to believe in an higher power or not, I don't have to have ANY BODY'S permission and that includes you."

What? I just state the facts. What you do with the facts is your business. Go ahead and live in your dream world if that makes you happy for the moment. I started to wake up in 1975. Sleep and dream on to your heart's content.

Allen C. Dexter

Anonymous said...

Hitler is the most lied about and maligned man in history. That's what we do to our enemies. We do the same thing today to Russia and they are bending over backwards to be our friends. It's endless lies from the media propaganda machine. Anyone with a clue knows it. Fake news. The truth about Hitler is extremely relevant because Herbert built a work on fake news and the same fake news and fake history perpetuates the split-offs today.

Byker Bob said...

Guided by the research methodology of Hislop, "Dr." Hoeh busily rushed around to find historical proof-texts to validate the bizarre theories which Herbert W. Armstrong had incorporated into the beliefs and prophecies which he taught. Assyria in prophecy becomes very much like Tyre (on which sets a city today) and Babylon (which Sadam Hussein partially restored).

The German "master race" (of which Hitler was not typical) was Aryan (Nordic peoples). And as NEO pointed out, much of Germany was Slavic, as are many Russians.

Also, will the real Ephraim please stand up? Who are they supposed to be? Picts? Celts? Romans? Angles? Saxons? Normans? All of these distinct groups and more were part of the history of England leading up to the 1600s. Who are the real royal family? William the Conqueror (also called William the Bastard) supplanted Anglo-Saxon royalty in 1066, as he launched the Norman conquest of England. Later, come the more English Plantagenets, Lancaster, York, Tudor, and Stuarts, and you have periods of time during the 1600s following the execution of Charles I when there was no monarch. Later, Catholics who would have been in direct line of succession were excluded. The British Royalty was nothing like the orderly succession of David's heirs in ancient Israel.

There is much more to the picture than the fantasies which we were led to believe!

BB

Byker Bob said...

Is this your attempt to use Hitler's principle of "the big lie"? I don't think it's going to work around here. We've already survived Herbie's version of the big lie.

BB

Anonymous said...

Dexter,
I like many, love living in my 'dream world.' The reason? God keeps answering my prayers and blessing me. You failed to put away your recreational drugs, keep it in your pants, refused to work hard etc, then complain that God isn't blessing you and that Christiany is a fraud.
The problem is Dexter, not God.

Byker Bob said...

6:53 ~ Do you actually know how to read? Do you have a memory, so that you can recall the specific things that participants here relate to us about themselves? Are you able to properly analyze facts and draw logical conclusions?

The misinformation which you just stated about Allen has given us tremendous insights into your own problem with life.

BB

Anonymous said...

when a person parrots a cliche phrase like "fake news" as part of their argument, you can bet that persons statement is not based upon an original and independent thought...

tell us in your own words why u feel the way u feel; why rely upon the worn out tread of tired talking points?

nck said...

And then even Richard III ended under a car park where people parked their toyotas.

A couple of years ago inspecting Tyre I and some Malaysian blue berets can testify that Tyre is destroyed. But yes the adjacent city is quite big.

Nck

RSK said...

Anon 6:53 is strangely uncomfortable about Mr. Dexter in general.

Anonymous said...

wrong, bb, it is a fact that the arab terrorist movement has its roots in nazi germany (otto skorzeny), fulfilling Psalms 83:8...

Byker Bob said...

Cool, nck! So does that mean that a larger nation somewhere next to Assyria will attack us? LOL.

I wonder if COGlodytes who read about the problems throughout Europe just in absorbing the Syrian refugees imagine what it would do to Germany if millions of captives from the USA were transported and enslaved there. We're dealing today with gargantuan populations compared with what happened in antiquity in the Babylonian and Assyrian captivities. It's another way in which the time and date stamp of Armstrongism has expired.

BB

nck said...

BB

Some years ago I took a wrong turn in Germany and noticed that the facilities to host at least 1 million Americans comfortably are still up and running although they need a little painting.

I also am in the secret posession of plans to move some three million Americans within days to the heart of Germany.

I know you are intelligent enough to know that I speak the truth, but alas you may have also deduced that my comment does not in any way support a prophetical scenario.

(hint)

We only know and then transport mechanical brigades to be transported from american soil and enjoy the scenery along the Polish and Latvian borders. But the logistics and will are there to
move millions. Make no mistake about it mr Putin.

Nck

nck said...

BB

I might aswell seriously adress your scenario.

If the Swiss educated leader of Korea somehow succeeds in making parts of america inhabitable. Followed by some cyberattack. First Korea will be wiped of the face of the earth THEN I am sure Europe in time will be able to absorb about 50 million Americans rock and rolling till Kingdom come.

But the people need to feel they are are (distant) cousins, since family groups act that way in time of crisis. Perhaps time for Dan Brown to release some more proof of that Israelite connection.

LOL LOL

Nck

Byker Bob said...

Got any pictures, nck? On a pro-Armstrong site a few years ago, people were posting pictures of FEMA/Haliburton camps, and speculating about which one they might land in if they somehow didn't qualify for Petra. And then someone who was more knowledgable spoiled all the fun by explaining what the "camps" really were.

BB

Byker Bob said...

Well, nck, as some of the old folk amongst my family used to say when people were leaving from a visit, "Do be careful out there among the English!".

I wonder if anyone has emailed the count about Bob Thiel thinking he's the beast.

BB

Anonymous said...

BB. 9.09 AM
Must you mock those that disagree with you. Your own opinions aren't ultimate truth, you know. Your intolerance equals that of HWAs Gestapo.
If you listen to, and ponder others point of view, you might learn something.

nck said...

BB

Pictures???????

"are still up" should have given you a hint as well as the million number and the other hint I gave.

No pictures necessary. Just follow all the road signs with "American installation", "US military camp", US depot etc etc etc

All empty. All ready to take in a million Americans if needed.
Heck, even Elvis and Priscilla would have had a chuckle out of my posting.


nck

nck said...

12:34

hahahah BB

Did you just carelessly narrow your surname possibilities down to Huntzinger, King, Stoltzfus or Bontrager hailing from Lancaster Pensylvania??

nck

Byker Bob said...

4:58 ~ When some asshole falsely accuses someone who rarely even takes a drink of being on drugs, yes, a different me comes out. And, it only gets worse if that same shit for brains further accuses a man who has been married long term and faithful of "not being able to keep it in his pants". Finally, attributing laziness to someone who took the more difficult route and became an entrepreneur, with a totally new profession, rather than following an easy paycheck and continuing to teach the HWAcaca is just plain ignorant.

Allen is an atheist. I am a believer, yet I listen to and ponder his point of view, and would never make things up about him just to win an argument, as did the one who started this. I fully expected that if you were going to make false accusations about one long-term poster, you'd also make them about me. That's probably why you post as "anonymous".

Have a nice day.

BB

Byker Bob said...

Got it. Abandoned military base where Elvis was once stationed. But, it was not as obvious as you seem to think. I'm beginning to understand better, but this is another example as to why people have commented that your comments are cryptic.

BB

Byker Bob said...

Nope. My ancestry is typical Heinz 57 white trash. There are many genetic influences. Myself, I don't have a German surname, though.

BB

nck said...

Yes. You kinda unlocked the key to nck however.

When I speak of hell, a place of clash of empires, multi national and ethnic armies, the commencememt of a new age. Some will ridicule me for propagating armstrongite Har Meggidom fear mongering. Perhaps only one will notice I am in fact watching the Paschendaele commemorations and reporting live and real time.

It is my experiment in the cause of the eye of the beholder.

Nck

Byker Bob said...

@12:50. For those who have not yet broken the encrypted code, you seem to use Armstrongism as a sort of gnostic metaphor for what is unfolding in the world around us, interpretive, but devoid of the spiritual aspects which HWA had originally infused. That is highly subjective, and I am not convinced of the reliability of even a chemically purified version of Armstrongism.

BB

nck said...

BB

German? I referred to Swiss because of the "be careful out there among the English".
That is typical "Amish speak" (lancaster county pensylvania).

Heinz. Even the "scum of the earth" are referring to some kind of German attachment :-).
Quality brands. Heinz fortune nearly got Kerry elected if it wasn't for the other popular guy.


Well, Armstrong was kind of an philosopher in a pivotal moment in human history. (20th century) when suddenly after 100.000 years of slow pace things started developing exponentially). Kinda like watching someone comment on the development of Los Angeles or Detroit when they only had 6000 inhabitants. Some things are recognizable others are scaled.

Spiritual aspects. I am anticipating the find of 1st century papyri by some Roman named nck inserting his comments that this John guy in his visions was talking about current understanding of the Roman empire. Just as some tech wizzard in the 22nd century finding digital remains discussing Armstrongism will clearly recognize its setting in the 20th century, cold war context and some predictions that have come to pass like humankind having populated some planets and ruling them like kings.

Interpretation of our surroundings. Yes that is what we humans do. And of course trying to extract some patterns in order to survive the next time that herd of buffaloe tramples our tent.

nck

Anonymous said...

BB
Why is it that every time someone mentions answered pray, BB is always the first one out of the stall, throwing his verbal jabs. God is no respecter of persons. If a person has a relationship with God and lives by the ten commandments, that persons prayers are answered. I know sincere Christian's from different denominations, and they tell me that their prayers are answered. By their body language and tone of voice, I believe them. If some Christian becomes a atheist, there is something that they are hiding from others.
It's Christians that are hated, not atheists. Hence the anonymity. This is in plain view in politics where it is conservative speakers that need bodyguards and conservative speakers that are chased off university campuses.

Byker Bob said...

You are either selective in your reading, 1:26, or else you seriously misjudge me. I do not deny answered prayer. In fact, It is something I experience myself every day. What I do deny is answered prayer according to the Armstrong mold of false prophecy. We know that this simply cannot be, because false prophecy is by definition a lie. So, therefore, how could God confirm it? That would have to be either a figment of the brainwashed imagination, or bias confirmation.

I also disagree regarding atheists not being persecuted. When I was an atheist in liberal Southern California, I received far more persecution than I ever had as an Armstrongite. People did not want my line of thought absorbed by their children. Kids at school even told my son that their parents had said he was going to burn in hell. This traumatized him greatly. I am not an atheist today, but you can see right here on this site how some of the atheists receive just as much persecution as we Christians.

BB

Byker Bob said...

Also, 1:26, think of it from this perspective. What if a Christian with the right body language and tone of voice told you that God had confirmed through prayer that it was alright to eat pork chops, or that He was a trinity, or that Martians would come and rescue us from global warming? And, what if that person told you that if you disagreed and thought that impossible, you were an atheist masquerading as a Christian and did not believe in answered prayer? Do you see the problem?

I can practically guarantee that anyone who has ever started an Armstrong splinter believes that he and his beliefs have been confirmed by God through prayer. Look at all of the twisting and mental gyrations we've watched Bob Thiel go through over the past several years!

BB