Sunday, July 29, 2018

Milquetoast COG Ministers Struggled to Preach from Pulpit Because of Women in Short Dresses


Reading the following quotes from Herber W Armstrong reminds me how Muslims demand their women cover up because the men will be tempted.     It is always the woman's fault instead of the weak men who cannot control their urges or desires. Sadly, the Church of God history has a track record of its leaders unable to control their urges.

HWA SPEAKS OUT ON WOMEN'S DRESSES:
"...And I want to say, before quoting from the former article, that God's ministers are quite frequently embarrassed, while preaching in the pulpit, by women wearing too short skirts that do not cover their knees, sitting with their knees spread apart at least eight or ten inches. Usually the careless ones are middle-aged or elderly women. Just once, I believe, have I personally noticed this inexcusable carelessness on the part of a college girl. This happens REPEATEDLY. Personally, I have not wanted to publicly embarrass these women. But if, after this article has appeared in print, such carelessness occurs again in my sight, I shall personally reprimand such women regardless of the painful embarrassment it may cause them!"
"In our teaching on child rearing, based on God's Word, we teach parents to speak plainly JUST ONCE-and then punish. The women guilty of this neglect are old enough to know better, but they are our spiritual children, and I am instructing all ministers to PRACTICE WHAT WE PREACH, and ENFORCE this ruling!..."

"...that means women may wear skirts up to the knees-that is, JUST BELOW the knee-cap, BUT NOT EXPOSING IT WHEN STANDING. Women should wear skirts of sufficient length to cover the knees when sitting...."
"...Since the last article on this subject, the Ruling has been so flagrantly ignored or disobeyed that the time has come TO ENFORCE this Ruling. God's Ministers are instructed to act accordingly.
And THIS INCLUDES THESE TOO TIGHT SKIRTS.

By that, I mean these skirts taken up just below the hips, so they FORM FIT the buttocks, clinging tight behind and under the place where they OUGHT to be SPANKED! I know that nearly all skirts are made that way today. But;
1) you do not have to buy that kind, and
2) if you have them, you can, and MUST, if obedient, let them out at the seams. And if NOT obedient, God's ministers will know you are part of this world, and not of God's Church...."

33 comments:

Connie Schmidt said...

(HWA SAID)-- women sitting with their knees spread apart at least eight or ten inches. Usually the careless ones are middle-aged or elderly women. Just once, I believe, have I personally noticed this inexcusable carelessness on the part of a college girl.

MY COMMENT: Nice to know that the "end time elijah apostle" was "BEAVER HUNTING" while preaching from the pulpit! What a pervert!

Anonymous said...

It's amazing that this was on Herbert's mind SO MUCH that he had to write a special article to bring this out. Honestly - the picture he paints, you couldn't "see anything" if you even wanted to. What was he afraid he'd see? I think I can be fairly certain to say that I don't think any middle aged or elderly women would go "commando" in the middle of a sermon by HWA. And let's be real. Who would even WANT to "look"?

Now, I can absolutely understand if some woman was sitting in the front row all spread eagle going commando during a church service. I can understand it if someone was wearing a mini-skirt and being seductive. What I cannot understand is someone calling out a skirt that "doesn't cover the knees" where the legs are not completely meshed together - where you absolutely cannot see a thing. I have seen many images from HWA's perspective looking at the audience and never saw anyone looking "inappropriate".

Maybe he had that big old desk there for a REASON. Ifyouknowwhatimean.

I know he came from a very puritan generation - a generation where skirts were measured and people were arrested on the beach for 2-piece outfits. But I think this posting speaks measures about what in the world was REALLY going on in his mind during his sermons.

"AND THIS KINGDOM SHALL BE..."

internally.... "hoo weee gertrude!!! hubba hubba!*





Anonymous said...

CONNIE!! BAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!!!! Im eating eggs and toast here and nearly choked on my toast!!!!

Well, you know, beavers were paired up in two when they entered the ark too..........

Wouldn't be surprised if he was in the mood for TACOS after the service. But the dietary restrictions forbade clams.

Anonymous said...

If the women had worn hot pants, that would have been the end of the ministry. The WCG, PCG, Malmites, etc. are the western world version of the Taliban. They are just relishing the idea of frying you.

nck said...

I believe that woman "Sharon Stone" of Basic Instinct fame ought to be disfellowshipped and marked if not arrested.

Nck





Dumbhead said...

There's a way to tell someone something like that without painfully embarrassing them. Tell the husband. Tell a woman friend. Tell a deaconess. Why offend someone?

Anonymous said...

HWA was in every way a fanatic who attracted fanatics. He knew no balance.

Anonymous said...

So this is where Rod Meredith got the idea to spank his wives. Disgusting! No man should be spanking his wife at any time and especially if some dumbass minister said to!

Spankless in Charlottee said...

The first time I would try to spank my wife I would be spending time in the emergency room. Just how controlling and idiotic can the ministry be? There are ministers out there that still believe this and members too. Truly sick individuals.

James said...

Women, know your limits!

Anonymous said...

Notice that HWA took for granted that his writing would be read, and obeyed.

It must be hard being Gerald Weston.

Anonymous said...

Spanking is hitting.

Spanking a wife (or a wife to a husband) is spousal abuse.

I don't care about what the generation was - 50s, 60s, 70s, or today. Abuse is abuse.

Whether it's spiritual abuse, mental abuse, or physical abuse - it's not to be tolerated in any form. And HWA condoned and enabled abuse on many, many levels, by making abuse seem to be okay. ABUSE is NEVER okay.



Anonymous said...

Looking at the body of evidence, eg running the church along abusive cult lines, I can't help wonder whether HWAs incest wasn't mainly about sex, but rather a malevolent lashing out at God and his ways.

Anonymous said...

What HWA MEANT to say? .....

...And I want to say, before quoting from the former article, that God's ministers are quite frequently turned on, severely, while preaching in the pulpit, by women wearing too short skirts that do not cover their knees, sitting with their knees spread apart at least eight or ten inches so one can look in and almost see a hoo-ha. Usually the careless less thrilling ones are middle-aged or elderly women. Just once, I believe, have I personally noticed this cause of a huge thrill for an old man on the part of a college girl. I knocked the LAMP OVER BECAUSE OF THAT! This happens REPEATEDLY. Personally, I have not wanted to publicly embarrass these women because to be honest, I LIKED IT. But I should not! And it's you women's fault! But if, after this article has appeared in print, such carelessness occurs again in my sight, I shall personally reprimand such women regardless of the painful embarrassment it may cause them! But I'll be thinking about it later that night! And I'll LOG it!

Ronco said...

"By that, I mean these skirts taken up just below the hips, so they FORM FIT the buttocks, clinging tight behind and under the place where they OUGHT to be SPANKED! "

Did somebody say something about Spanky?

RSK said...

Given his eyesight and the sitting position he'd have been into relative to the, umm, potato pie, I have a hard time believing his supposed motivation, even if there were some old hags out there actually trying to ensnare an apostle in such a manner. It would have been even more difficult for him to see under stage lighting at Ambassador Auditorium.

For some reason I now have the "Jacking Off To Your Facebook Pics" song in my head.

Anonymous said...

The thing is, people in “the world” have to deal with this every day. It’s only a federal if you make it a federal. You just exercise a little self-control, and it’s handled.

But then again, church people generally assume that non -Christians are “getting lucky” 24-7. Why is that?

nck said...

RSK

Impossible for him to see from the pulpit. He must have mixed up members with Indira Gandi or Margareth Thatcher.

Nck

Anonymous said...

Potato Pie?!

Wow I must be too young for that one. If you are meaning what I believe that you are meaning. And I don't think you're talking about thanksgiving. :)

Well, if the stage lighting blinded him to what was obviously causing him some serious issues, I don't think he would have mentioned it.Obviously, whatever it was he was having issues with the stage lighting didn't conceal. Either that, or he made a concerted effort to analyze and to see what would have been difficult under normal stage lighting conditions.

What's weird about all this? In many of those cheesy Young Ambassador Feast clips? I could have sworn they showed those college girls in dresses that were way shorter than "the knee", even some cheerleaders in normal cheerleader outfits? Apparently those were just fine?

Anonymous said...

I think that HWA was, in part, a product of his generation in that he was against make up and thought that masturbation was harmful The Kellogg brothers (members of the SDA Church) ran a sanitarium in Michigan and were big advocates of bland food. They believed that spicy foods led to sexual arousal which led to masturbation, which caused many physical and mental disorders. They developed corn flakes to prevent the harmful and potentially deadly practice. Perhaps HWA didn't get the memo on masturbation. Sylvester Graham, a Presbyterian minister, developed the Graham cracker for the same reason. Think of that the next time you make SMORES on a camping trip.

RSK said...

Dont you mean Margaret SNATCHer? lol

Sweetblood777 said...

I often find myself feeling disgusted at the way many women dress today. There does not appear to be much modesty. There certainly isn't any shame and those that dress like this, don't seem to realize that men do not want sluts to become their wives.

Anonymous said...

6.17 AM
I think you fail to understand that standards in the world have changed for both men and women. Have a look at the dating sites. The women flaunt their wares in order to attract a mate.
My belief is that women who reveal a bit too much (I did say a bit) are closer to the narrow gate in regard to sex than women who dress like nuns.

Anonymous said...

I hereby proclaim, by the authority invested in me by HWA, that Stormy Daniels is an apostle.

Ronnie said...


Some of the most self righteous women in the CoGs were those with the long, wild, wirey manes of dried out hair and the long skirts and old lady shoes.
Religious costumes do not make you righteous nor do short skirts make a woman a "slut" as dirty minded Sweetblood says.
These people's minds are so far down into the gutter it boggles the mind.

Anonymous said...

Acceptable clothing varies depending on where in the world you are. What Americans find acceptable, others find scandalous, and still others find oppressive.

What some find acceptable, Americans find onerous (burkas).

At the club (a naturist resort) we don't have any hangups about dress, the men aren't distracted, and there are no sexual shenanigans.

People need to get their minds out of the gutter.

RSK said...

Well, the leap of logic was that (perceived) lack of modesty equals sluttiness.

Anonymous said...

Many years ago in a High School History Class
Student says: "All Girls should wear Miniskirts"
Teacher replies: "You haven't seen all girls"

Anonymous said...

Too bad the moment that HWA threatened women, half a dozen should've stood up and stripped.

nck said...

RSK

If it is Thatched it can't be Snatched.

Graham Crackers anyone?

nck

Anonymous said...

Too bad the moment that HWA threatened women, half a dozen should've stood up and stripped.

Several years ago, in Charlotte, RCM was giving one of his typical misogynistic sermons, but this time was more graphic and offensive than usual. At least one minister's wife (visiting from the field; she is now in Charlotte), and several other women (including at least one HQ employee) actually got up and walked out during the sermon. To this day, I don't know whether they were reported to Mr. League, Mr. McNair, and RCM, but their action showed just how much things have changed since HWA's day.

RSK said...

Bahahaha!

Anonymous said...

There be some dramas inside his pajamas tonight! Doot n doowah!