tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post1149914857346511648..comments2024-03-29T06:42:44.507-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: The Accuser of the Crazy Self-Appointed MinistersNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-4073201607933210692016-09-07T19:43:13.882-07:002016-09-07T19:43:13.882-07:00Charlie's OK. Most people suffer from a "...Charlie's OK. Most people suffer from a "why did you have to come here" syndrome. We've established our own equilibrium, and someone we disagree with or is vocal with rad opinions suddenly shows up. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-65047698975154379382016-09-07T11:57:46.835-07:002016-09-07T11:57:46.835-07:00Good bye, Charlie Speck.
I hope you one day will a...Good bye, Charlie Speck.<br />I hope you one day will accept the psychological help that you so desperately need.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-28793517329550845362016-09-07T11:11:44.690-07:002016-09-07T11:11:44.690-07:00Mikey wants a helmet like that.
Does it come with...Mikey wants a helmet like that.<br /><br />Does it come with different colors?<br /><br />Can we customize the title?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-48005571209055460242016-09-06T09:49:45.460-07:002016-09-06T09:49:45.460-07:00You think Dave garners less emotion? Not following...You think Dave garners less emotion? Not following the reasoning.RSKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-54564384415562326012016-09-06T05:35:06.542-07:002016-09-06T05:35:06.542-07:00I am not 3:43 PM but I would like to point out to ...I am not 3:43 PM but I would like to point out to TradingGuy that David Pack does not "arouse less emotion than Bob" Thiel. Emotions against Pack run very high; Thiel is generally viewed (I believe) as pathetic.<br /><br />What is true is that Thiel has been more visible on this blog lately. This is because as 5:17 PM pointed out, Thiel's website contains a near daily eruption of diarrhea, giving much material for this site to draw from. Meanwhile, Pack is still mostly keeping his head down after his spectacular prophetic failure a couple years ago when COG leaders were to die and their flocks were to come running home to papa. If you search this site's archives, you will find that Pack was the principal topic of conversation for several months leading up to that fiasco. When Pack lifts his head again, I expect his prominence on this site to increase accordingly.<br /><br />P.S. Nice comment 5:42 PM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-47340640123845667962016-09-06T05:29:07.974-07:002016-09-06T05:29:07.974-07:00Why does David Pack, who has robbed his congregati...<i>Why does David Pack, who has robbed his congregation blind, leaving many destitute, arouse less emotion than Bob? </i><br /><br />Restaurant reviewers spend very little time drinking gutter water and eating out of dumpsters, and even less time telling their readers not to do that. If you're looking for a good meal, those are self-evidently bad choices.<br /><br />If you're looking for Jesus, Pack is a self-evidently bad choice. More recently, even if you were looking for Armstrongism, Pack has become a self-evidently bad choice. If you can't see this for yourself, you are probably beyond help.<br /><br />It's not that Pack doesn't horrify most of us here. His extreme demands have ruined far more bank accounts than Thiel will likely ever come close to reaching unless the Aimless Amos, too, goes off the deepest of deep ends. But that's what makes Thiel even more dangerous in his own way. Until you catch on to him, you might be bamboozled by the sheer volume of his deluge of Armstrong-flavored crazy.<br /><br />He was actually more dangerous before he started making his videos. In print he could pass for a kind of cross between Gene Hogberg and Herman Hoeh, if you were into that sort of thing. On video, he's not much better than that crazy guy who combines UFOs and Scientology with Armstrongism. <br /><br />I do think that one reason people here pick on him so much is that David Pack by all accounts doesn't read what is posted here. At most, an RCG COE member may read here so as to summarize for his master what's going on. Thiel, however, is a small operator and really poor delegator, such that he reads every word on this blog (Hi, Bob!) and is thin-skinned enough that he cannot stop himself from responding. He's far too easy to get a reaction out of. If he could stand to ignore what people were "improperly" writing about him, I suspect people would write about him far less often.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-56727294913090634712016-09-06T01:01:48.409-07:002016-09-06T01:01:48.409-07:0012.22 both John the Baptist and Christ verbally cu...12.22 both John the Baptist and Christ verbally cut the Pharisees 'to pieces' themselves. Whilst a member, I could barely express a opinion without being verbally attacked with accusations similar to your own. The message was, don't pass moral judgment. So the 'solution' to gross mistreatment of members was that it's a crime to perceive the evil in front of you. <br />You conveniently left out that church leaders give themselves the right to verbally tear down church members, so that they can have power and superiority over these people. So much for 'don't murder' and not lording it over others. This was commonly expressed as 'ministers want to be masters rather than counsellors.' What does it say about you, that you come to these ministers defence?<br /><br />Cheers TradingGuyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13109018558928189132016-09-05T21:20:21.050-07:002016-09-05T21:20:21.050-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-65787681489893044102016-09-05T20:23:38.570-07:002016-09-05T20:23:38.570-07:00Well said Anon 5:42. One should not censor themsel...<br />Well said Anon 5:42. One should not censor themselves to comfort another's ignorance.Sane Conhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17941105651992924215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-5513531197395189372016-09-05T17:42:49.418-07:002016-09-05T17:42:49.418-07:00Anonymous at 12:22 PM said...
“There are folks he...<br /><i>Anonymous at 12:22 PM said...<br /><br />“There are folks here who just can't seem to say anything positive....”<br /><br />“But all these folks still share one thing in common aside from their mutual background in Armstrongism, and that is their non-stop habit of sarcastic accusation and criticism of others.”<br /><br />“Talk about misery loving company.”</i><br /><br /><br />Tragically, and unfortunately, the so-called COG scene today is overrun with the sort of vicious and malicious FALSE prophets that Jesus warned in Matthew 7:15-20 to watch out for (such as Gerald Flurry, David Pack, Ronald Weinland, and Robert Thiel, to name several of the <i>guilty</i> ones--and they are <i>very</i> guilty!). There is nothing positive to say about FALSE prophets other than that they are positively FALSE. Jesus said that a bad tree <i>cannot</i> bear good fruit.<br /><br />If you do not appreciate the helpful warnings of concerned people, and are not grateful for them, then feel free to try joining any of the imposter cults of any of the FALSE prophets and see how that works out for you. After you have kept company for a while with the miserable FALSE prophets and have gained some practical experience regarding what they are really like, and after your own wrong attitude has (hopefully) improved, then remember to come back here and share some worthwhile facts instead of just worthless, self-righteous, fluff talk. <br /><br />Hopefully, you will stop writing recklessly in defence of FALSE prophets, stop telling people not to warn others about FALSE prophets, and stop trying to encourage people to follow FALSE prophets to their own harm.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-83525011448799261132016-09-05T17:17:37.108-07:002016-09-05T17:17:37.108-07:00Beneath the waterline? Bob's just an easy targ...Beneath the waterline? Bob's just an easy target due to his blatant vanity and the sheer volume of his output on the internet. Or in other words, if you have a COG background and you're in the mood to be amused, Bob's at-least-daily website content will usually deliver the chuckles. <br /><br />But in the case of Bob's commentary detailed in this post, that was him having ruffled feathers over being lumped in the same group with Flurry, Pack, Meredith, et cetera. RSKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-57540457900874168562016-09-05T16:07:19.293-07:002016-09-05T16:07:19.293-07:00As a non American can someone tell me what Barron&...<i>As a non American can someone tell me what Barron's is ? </i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.barrons.com" rel="nofollow">Barron's</a> is a weekly newspaper, published by Dow Jones & Co, which reports on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barron%27s_(newspaper)" rel="nofollow">financial news and market developments</a>. <br /><br />Why wouldn't Rod Meredith be interested in this? After all, Jesus told us in Matthew 6:21, "Where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." Unfortunately, Rod probably isn't considering James 5:3 when he watches his gold investments: "Your gold and silver are corroded, and their corrosion will be a witness against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have heaped up treasure in the last days." Oops!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-8391560306954416762016-09-05T15:43:17.091-07:002016-09-05T15:43:17.091-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-84257500283593949702016-09-05T12:22:56.829-07:002016-09-05T12:22:56.829-07:00One of the most prominent character traits on disp...One of the most prominent character traits on display here at this website - whether in current COG members as well as those who consider themselves ex-COGer's - is the constant need to routinely cut others to pieces verbally.<br /><br />There are folks here who just can't seem to say anything positive - and my guess is that many of them still consider themselves Christian in one way or another. Of course, a number don't claim to be anymore.<br /><br />But all these folks still share one thing in common aside from their mutual background in Armstrongism, and that is their non-stop habit of sarcastic accusation and criticism of others.<br /><br />Regular posters love to comment upon how the self-appointed leaders of the many splinter groups the old WCG has crumbled into these days are always at odds with each other, and yet such posters indulge in identical behavior themselves, and often with a sense of glee.<br /><br />Talk about misery loving company.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-15631494188541970122016-09-05T02:29:51.275-07:002016-09-05T02:29:51.275-07:00Bob Thiel has a small Mickey mouse church, so I am...Bob Thiel has a small Mickey mouse church, so I am at a loss to understand why he gets so much attention on this site. I assume there is something 'beneath the waterline' that no one wants to openly acknowledge.<br /><br />Cheers TradingGuyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-78810488065247025212016-09-05T00:19:56.295-07:002016-09-05T00:19:56.295-07:00As a non American can someone tell me what Barron&...As a non American can someone tell me what Barron's is ? Great comment by the way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-2915745831242550792016-09-04T22:38:25.925-07:002016-09-04T22:38:25.925-07:00c'mon Bob...surely you know that responding to...c'mon Bob...surely you know that responding to anything here is basically casting pearls before swine....<br /><br />there is nothing you can do to change their minds about anything....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-68586162861114223202016-09-04T14:14:27.901-07:002016-09-04T14:14:27.901-07:00"Bob is akin to Dr. Smith on Lost in Space. A..."Bob is akin to Dr. Smith on Lost in Space. A bumbling fool who thinks he is smarter than the rest and who's only friend is a robot."<br /><br />And he wasn't too friendly toward that robot either... Great comparison!<br /><br />The good Dr also reminds me a little of Mr Magoo as inspired by Jim Backus.<br /><br />Ronco<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-1703003260702040622016-09-04T12:51:28.663-07:002016-09-04T12:51:28.663-07:00Smarten up, Bob Thiel!
Only FALSE PROPHETS get th...<br />Smarten up, Bob Thiel!<br /><br /><b>Only <i>FALSE</i> PROPHETS get their messages from demons and pagans.</b><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-32229347667459589802016-09-04T11:07:14.110-07:002016-09-04T11:07:14.110-07:00Dr. Robert Thiel has been the accuser of the breth...Dr. Robert Thiel has been the accuser of the brethren -- the Church of God Seventh Day -- with many negative articles about CoG7D and I publicly called him out on that.<br /><br />If he wants to play 'the accuser card', then he himself must assume the mantle and be branded a tool of Satan.<br /><br />Thiel, repent or else!<br /><br />In the meantime, shut up and take your lashes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-57341557320386618282016-09-04T10:57:59.529-07:002016-09-04T10:57:59.529-07:00Why Charlie Speck, how could you say such horrible...Why Charlie Speck, how could you say such horrible things on the internet? Don't you realize that the only intelligent course in life is to become an atheist, to realize that God is simply a literary character, and to hate him if he actually existed? That is the entire secret of the universe, my man!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-79621543648013064292016-09-04T09:53:10.503-07:002016-09-04T09:53:10.503-07:00Bob is akin to Dr. Smith on Lost in Space. A bumbl...Bob is akin to Dr. Smith on Lost in Space. A bumbling fool who thinks he is smarter than the rest and who's only friend is a robot.<br />At the beginning of the series he played a saboteur hell bent on destroying the Jupiter 2 and the family that consisted of the crew. He is arrogant, pompous, and insulting. Without a thought for helping others, he goes forth ignorant of the situations surrounding him, creating one disaster after another. Others have to come to his rescue and fix his messes.<br /><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/t4OXzN9qGts?t=1667" rel="nofollow">Watch!</a>Jameshttp://hwarmstrong.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-83281734306857180952016-09-04T09:23:03.094-07:002016-09-04T09:23:03.094-07:00ACOG ministers often accuse themselves or each oth...ACOG ministers often accuse themselves or each other, sometimes without even realizing what they are doing. Watch just the first two minutes of the latest LCG online sermon, given by Mr. James Meredith, and you'll see how self-unaware they are and how utterly lacking in Christian priority.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/lcg/sermons/lcg-sermons.cgi?category=Sermon1&item=1472796001" rel="nofollow">Love, Fear and Serve God</a> .<br /><br />Jim claims to respect his father, and to be showing his father respect. So we assume he means it as a compliment when he tells the whole world that the three things his father values the most are: <i>The Wall Street Journal</i>, <i>Barron's</i>, and wine.<br /><br />Jim knows his father better than most other people do. So we should probably believe him. Jim wouldn't think of giving his father a good book (Christian or secular), or a beautiful piece of music, or a gift made in his name a needy widow. And a gift related to the Work or their Christian commitment? Of course not! It's a 100% carnal perspective, coming from Jim, and if we take him at his word that's how his father sees things, too.<br /><br />Let's face it. LCG is a family business, and not a particularly spiritual one at that. But at least Jim isn't self-appointed; his daddy ordained him and made him a bigwig. It's Rod who is the self-made man, who left his ministerial credentials behind in Pasadena and declared himself the MFWIC of his new cult.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-63451192728136155922016-09-04T08:42:26.342-07:002016-09-04T08:42:26.342-07:00If Bob Thiel has been "anointed" as a &q...If Bob Thiel has been "anointed" as a "prophet" by asking a minister to "anoint" him because he was sick, and this is what has given him a "double-portion" of the "holy spirit," then I must have at least 30 portions of the "holy spirit." I lost count of how many times I was "anointed" because I was sick. I guess I missed my calling as a superfantabulous prophet with 30 portions of the holy spirit, and insignificant splinter cult leader.2 Samuelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-79714287947338368062016-09-04T02:42:17.741-07:002016-09-04T02:42:17.741-07:00This blog is getting to be more pathetic as time g...This blog is getting to be more pathetic as time goes. Little children name calling instead of simply using a persons real name when referring to them, and then we watch the other children play monkey see monkey do as they repeat the same childish names. Bob Thiel has it right this time but obviously the blog owner can't handle the truth and had to make another rant against Bob Thiel. Then we have our usual Dennis the Athiest posts with his not very convincing arguments at hat go on and on and on, actually it seems this blog is becoming a place for Athiests to come where they can spew their Christian hate. Anyway, that's it for me, I'm out of here, far to negative and full of hate.Charlie Specknoreply@blogger.com