tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post224010254421842701..comments2024-03-29T07:07:46.875-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Dennis On "The World Beyond the Plain and Real Living and Restored Truth In Him and Brotherly Love" NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-84298222388446088062013-03-28T20:17:33.891-07:002013-03-28T20:17:33.891-07:00There is no justice without punishment for the inc...There is no justice without punishment for the incorrigibly abusive. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-82097967641538417702013-03-27T11:50:45.967-07:002013-03-27T11:50:45.967-07:00Typically a person who has nothing to say merely r...Typically a person who has nothing to say merely resorts to personal insults rather than legitimate rebuttal.<br /><br />Fact is the leader of Argentina is involving a leader of the roman church in a political matter that in the past a war was fought over.<br /><br />Fact is this man has in the past called England's possession of the Faklands a usurping and called on Argentinians to pray on the matter.<br /><br />Fact is a leader of the roman church has not been involve politically in a matter of this magnitude since WWII.<br /><br />Fact is whenever the roman church involves itself in political matters of such a magnitude, nations who follow this leader tend to rally around him.<br /><br />Fact is history always repeats itself, even to the least of details like there being scoffers who hate any critical observation of what is occurring in the world.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-35502397468582939342013-03-26T18:05:44.044-07:002013-03-26T18:05:44.044-07:00Anon, your above rambling "reasoning" is...Anon, your above rambling "reasoning" is ample evidence why fundamentalist fanatics such as yourself are never taken seriously. You use many words yet say absolutely nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-14444736206556489082013-03-26T17:13:55.981-07:002013-03-26T17:13:55.981-07:00You call it prophecy, but the reality is that it i...You call it prophecy, but the reality is that it is the politics of money, power and national sovereignty.<br /><br />The fact that this leader of the god boy cult is now involved (and that he also is from Latin America) potentially adds a whoe new dimension of unity that has not been seen since the days before Napoleon.<br /><br />Your denial is just typical of he who won't face the fact that he is aboard a ship that has taken on water and is simultaneously being approached by a tidal wave of religious evil.<br /><br />Evolve your way out of this one, won't you? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-23337652408765504292013-03-26T10:08:12.595-07:002013-03-26T10:08:12.595-07:00Prophetic anonymous, glad we only need to wait a c...Prophetic anonymous, glad we only need to wait a couple of years, better than waiting for 40 or 50. At least you will have time to think of more prophecies or interpretations of politics. <br />I remember the last war in the Falklands. Funny thing is I remember a little story about a family who moved to the Falklands because they thought the world was ending and the Falklands - a little island at the end of the earth in the southern hemisphere would be a safe haven, away from Europe and the middle east and the Northern powers. Were they ever shocked when war started there. Just shows you never know. What about Madagascar, I always fancied that larger island.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-22135157516999530012013-03-26T09:07:33.117-07:002013-03-26T09:07:33.117-07:00History statistically has shown that no empire las...History statistically has shown that no empire lasts forever and that a waning empire often accelerates its demise by trying to retain its last vestiges of graft. This is a historical fact.<br /><br />What you see happening to England is just history repeating itself. Frankly England should logically have fallen to the Germans back in WWII but for US.<br /><br />The next couple of years should be interesting. Maybe the Celts be liberated this season.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-15157382577379939242013-03-26T08:44:07.151-07:002013-03-26T08:44:07.151-07:00You are using cliche cookie cutter answers to rebu...You are using cliche cookie cutter answers to rebut me instead of looking critically at the realities of the kind of world we live in.<br /><br />You also are desperately trying to accuse me of prophecy so that you can link me to the failed god boys and their rants.<br /><br />But whether you acknowledge it or not, the fact remains that Argentina is so serious about getting their islands back that they once tried aggression and now they see an opportunity to gain an advantage.<br /><br />Given the historical posture of the Brit and given his prideful ways, England will not relent; also there's billions in oil around the Falklands.<br /><br />The issue has led to war before and may do so again, but this time the religious leader of the largest god boy cult in the world is involved and he has the power to callon the whole of Latin America in some sort of religious type decree to help Argentina.<br /><br />This thing could easily snowball out of control.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-91011276547419779052013-03-25T16:46:11.990-07:002013-03-25T16:46:11.990-07:00who would think the Falklands would be so signific...who would think the Falklands would be so significant? I thought Jerusalem was the scene of action. I don't see the Roman Catholic church having so much power, we are living in a more and more secular world. Of course the Arabs are becoming extreme in many cases but that is following a religion still mired in the middle ages, and a largely uneducated population. I believe all extreme religion is dangerous actually. You (prophetic anonymous) are coming up with weird scenarios and trying to weave apocalyptic religion around them. Honestly I don't think atheists kill themselves any more than anyone else. What about all those people believing in fantasies which can't possibly be true -- they can't all be right. How will they feel when their little fantasy fails to occur? They'll just invent another one or adjust the former one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-4945440962128361782013-03-25T12:05:54.696-07:002013-03-25T12:05:54.696-07:00And what I meant by some Americans having old worl...And what I meant by some Americans having old world sentiments are those who still have some ethnic and/or religious affinity for Europe.<br /><br />If papa Rome stokes anti Anglo sentiment because of the matter of the Faklands and if he feigns righteous indignation against the legacy of colonialism, all while thumping his book, the masses will be stirred up and looking for an imperial scapegoat.<br /><br />This man even may demand loyalty to the Roman church over one's own flag. You know how the god boys get when threatened with hell fire.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-1289421558915438852013-03-25T11:49:02.225-07:002013-03-25T11:49:02.225-07:00I mentioned suicide because the sons of apes have ...I mentioned suicide because the sons of apes have no other hope. At least the god boys can pray to whatever they believe in but the athiest can only rely on survival of the fittest.<br /><br />To the monkey boys their superior intellect will be their hope, but like Einstein lost in the Amazon forest they will get a rude lesson in what it really takes to survive.<br /><br />This is why an atheist would be better off offing himself.<br /><br />If England persists in clinging to one of its last vestige of theft, i.e. the Falklands and/or if England leaves the EU while the German controlled organization is in such a vulnerable state England will stink from Latin America to Europe.<br /><br />Germany controlled Europe and if and when this new papa of Rome publicly condemns England it will snowball into both religious and political marginalization of England an whomever backs her, meaning us.<br /><br />Some say its prophecy come true; who knows and who cares. The reality is that Europe is imploding and historically this means trouble for England and involvement for the US and people inside the US having old world sentiments.<br /><br />Scare tactics? Sure, but these type of world events have historical precedent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-55955509322946596512013-03-25T11:35:09.317-07:002013-03-25T11:35:09.317-07:00I see Dennis' comment "Sometimes someone ...I see Dennis' comment "Sometimes someone will tell me that they left WCG in 1971 and my internal reaction is , "Pffffffft....you weren't around long enough to even get a stomach ache!". <br /><br />Well I am one of those, I left in 1972/3, so long ago not quite sure, and does leaving date from when I stopped believing or when I actually got thrown out? <br />I grew up in WCG and went to AC. I would have to say it destroyed my family. My family might have been destroyed anyway but I will never know. I think anything that happens to a child has more impact. My childhood and adolescence in the WCG might not be like 40 years but it still has an impact. At least when I left at 21 I was young enough to start a new life. I have no idea what my life would have been like without the church commandeering my childhood. I suppose it could have been worse. I think the issues are the same really. My whole life I have been waiting for the world to end and made lots of decisions based on that, somehow it stayed programmed in the brain. Plus I never went to doctors. Well I don't want to whine there are way worse things that can happen, but it is not insignificant to have left in 1971 or 72 or whenever. I believed as much as anyone, and when I left I left all my friends and my life up to that point. Back then no one would talk to you when you left, plus my family was decimated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-45601107747928906452013-03-24T23:14:14.220-07:002013-03-24T23:14:14.220-07:00I have no intention of committing suicide if all t...I have no intention of committing suicide if all these threatened prophecies come to pass. Why would I want to miss the fireworks after waiting 50 years to see them. Yes since 1960. Thankfully I am close enough to my natural end that suicide will probably not be necessary, if I see all these prophecies happen I will be so shocked I will have a heart attack no doubt. Sure anything can happen in the world, but usually it is not what is expected but a bit of a surprise -- just wait and see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-6618355127609591052013-03-24T13:22:59.098-07:002013-03-24T13:22:59.098-07:00And fail just like the previous one, and the one b...And fail just like the previous one, and the one before it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-7998209646044377402013-03-24T13:06:22.416-07:002013-03-24T13:06:22.416-07:00Oh, also, the leader of Argentina visited the pop...Oh, also, the leader of Argentina visited the pope (which was his first official visit from a head of state) and asked him to intervene in the matter of the fauklands.<br /><br />Why would she petition this man unless she thought he had power to do something.<br /><br />That power, along with Germany's power will spell double trouble for the Anglos.<br /><br />Another fact is that certain Americans of a certain heritage were not 100% loyal to America in WWII.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-22454474315748759892013-03-24T12:56:33.863-07:002013-03-24T12:56:33.863-07:00Oh, another fact is that Germany controls the EU a...Oh, another fact is that Germany controls the EU and is the strongest economy in Europe.<br /><br />It is they who are dictating austerity terms to the weak EU nations like Spain, Cyprus,, and Greece. Once again Germany is a force in Europe.<br /><br />You can chalk that up to prophecy if you want; I am merely saying what is happening in the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-31988521858735475822013-03-24T12:48:20.512-07:002013-03-24T12:48:20.512-07:00You people keep talking about prophecy, etc. I hav...You people keep talking about prophecy, etc. I haven't said anything about prophecy.<br /><br /> The fact i there is a growing anti Anglo sentiment in Europe very similar to that of the days leading up to both world wars.<br /><br />The difference between that time and now is that all of the Anglo nations are considerably weaker now than then.<br /><br />The fact is this Argentinian pope will take the side of Argentina in this growing dispute over the Fauklands.<br /><br />The fact is if England leaves the EU it will further shake world confidence in that orginization and England will not be popular in Europe.<br /><br />The fact is that both America and England have catholic nations as neighbors and if England gets aggressive regarding Argentina this will offend that pope and could lead to trouble.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-49842716337165655352013-03-24T10:08:37.847-07:002013-03-24T10:08:37.847-07:00Anonymous 5:00 wrote: "Not of you people are ...Anonymous 5:00 wrote: "Not of you people are prepared for economic trouble, let alone the kind of trouble the Anglo world is headed for; hence you will be committing suicide,"<br /><br />You ever notice the ardent CERTAINY mingled with a sense of glee that the COG prophecy buffs make such dogmatic statements with? As if they truly have all the answers with respect to how the future will unfold. But if they did, then why do they have such a poor prophetic track record? Anon just refuses to face that fact, and zealously goes on making his empty pronouncements. These people would be hilarious if they were so pathetic in their prophecy-drenched minds.Leonardonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-16247859016292720932013-03-24T09:16:23.377-07:002013-03-24T09:16:23.377-07:00"Not of you people are prepared for economic ..."Not of you people are prepared for economic trouble, let alone the kind of trouble the Anglo world is headed for; hence you will be committing suicide,"<br /><br />Question for you Anon! Do you or do you not believe the Jews have preserved the Oracles of God?<br /><br />Because, if they have (I believe they have, overall), the postponements and Talmudic rules applied to the seven annual Sabbaths notwithstanding, right now, we are at Year 5774/5775 of God's 7000-year plan.<br /><br />Hardly "Armageddon on our doorstep" IMO. Though we can certainly see the seeds of it being sown now, with the ever-so-subtly gradual increase of Nazis in Europe's national political parties. Which don't have enough control to bring on apocalypse <i>tomorrow</i>....but they certainly will, in a hundred years or so, if they remain largely invisible and unchecked, which they are doing, because mainstream media isn't even picking up on the disturbing signs --- much as they didn't in the 1930s.Velvetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-32769102245774623412013-03-24T08:01:28.440-07:002013-03-24T08:01:28.440-07:00Anon wrote:
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Al...Anon wrote:<br /> Anonymous Anonymous said...<br /><br />"All I can say is there were skeptics back when Jesus predicted the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple and not a generation later it happened."<br /><br />Or, more likely, the temple was destroyed and gospel writers attributed prophetic powers to Jesus by making him "predict" it...<br />Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-9599577372106609832013-03-24T05:00:46.770-07:002013-03-24T05:00:46.770-07:00You can call it doomsday; I call it history repeat...You can call it doomsday; I call it history repeating itself. Back in WWI and WWII Germany was hostile to the Anglos.<br /><br />Today there is big trouble in the European Union and England wants to bale, but Europe wants them to stay put. If England leaves the European Union, it will be the death nell because along with what is happening in Cyprus it will cause a domino affect. The rest of Europe subsequently will become increasingly agitated at England.<br /><br />Also, England wants to keep the Faukland islands from Argentina and the Catholics now have an Argentine elected pope who has in the past been against England on this matter.<br /><br />Both Ireland and Scotland are gaining renewed confidence in it's desire to rid itself of English influence in their lands, and this new pope will bolster those sentiments. <br /><br />During both WWI and WWII Germany requested that Mexico (which is devotedly Catholic) attack the United States.<br /><br />You call it doomsday, I call it anti Anglo history repeating itself, right down to the detail of there being the usual quota of scoffers.<br /><br />Not of you people are prepared for economic trouble, let alone the kind of trouble the Anglo world is headed for; hence you will be committing suicide, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-75730876120798537632013-03-23T22:35:58.217-07:002013-03-23T22:35:58.217-07:00And then again your doomsday views may prove total...And then again your doomsday views may prove totally wrong, as those of the modern-day COG's have ALWAYS proved to be starting back in the 1840's with the Millerites. The biggest problem with COG prophecy buffs is that they just can't ever admit when they're wrong, which the historical record shows is virtually ALL of the time. This shows to me a clear and crippling ideological bias along with an arrogant refusal to face reality - and therefore an utter incapacity to predict the future with any kind of accuracy. You can argue all you want, but the historical record is crystal clear on this point.Leonardonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-86424964615734924432013-03-23T19:42:34.483-07:002013-03-23T19:42:34.483-07:00All I can say is there were skeptics back when Jes...All I can say is there were skeptics back when Jesus predicted the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple and not a generation later it happened.<br /><br />Even as Europe currently is going through the same kind of turmoil that led to both of the previous world wars people on this board are ignorant to the fact that mainland Europe and Britain are once again at odds.<br /><br />Seeing as history tends to repeat itself in the face of ignorance, denial, and skepticism it is reasonable to assume the usual European battle lines will once again lead to a conflict that upon you people's realization of this you will likely commit suicide in order to escape the resulting harsh reality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-10033619301139526562013-03-23T12:46:13.582-07:002013-03-23T12:46:13.582-07:00And Plas, you might want to perhaps rethink a few ...And Plas, you might want to perhaps rethink a few things. I highly doubt that any kind of raging anger will provide the kind of "happy and healthy environment, free of any religious bullshit" you so idealistically envision for your offspring.<br /><br />Yes, these efforts might help to avoid one extreme of irrationality, but in practical reality may only serve to promote yet another equally destructive set of illusions.<br /><br />As it is, it sounds an awful lot to me as if you're actual intent is raise future droid soldiers for the Fourth Reich. The Third Reich called them Hitler Youth, and the strategy didn't exactly work out as planned.Leonardonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-490419165774903282013-03-23T12:30:02.983-07:002013-03-23T12:30:02.983-07:00"Forgiveness is for the weak and for the perp..."Forgiveness is for the weak and for the perpetual victim. Christianity is a victim religion. Anger is for the strong...Forgiveness is a gutless form of fake justice." <br /><br />Wow, these little "pearls of wisdom" sound like they've come direct from the mind of Adolph Hitler...either him or Plasma Dude!<br /><br />Plas, sorry to inform you, but I think you missed the glories of the National Socialist German Worker's Party by a good 75 years at least. But not to worry, another group similar to it may very well arise within your lifetime.Leonardonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-46636976469190437362013-03-23T09:37:47.598-07:002013-03-23T09:37:47.598-07:00Velvet said: “I think you missed the beam for the ...Velvet said: “I think you missed the beam for the splinter, on that one.”<br /><br />My comment: I think I understand what you’re saying and recognize that what Gary says may be justified, but it is still his perception. If such material is presented without personal comment it puts the responsibility on the reader in determining whether to accept it as making a positive or negative contribution to their life.<br /><br />I have dealt with many situations where people form personal perceptions that are totally opposite from the facts in a situation; due to a biased opinion. Of course these are my personal perceptions.<br /><br />One thing I have learned is to ask myself questions before getting emotional distraught about a situation. One question I asked is what does this have to do with my life and what can I do about it. If the answer is nothing, I look at other questions before getting embroiled in something that has no solution.<br />A. Boocher <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com