tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post3153259707757145182..comments2024-03-28T01:47:50.775-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: David C Pack Is A Liar! So Says Former RCG Church Administration EmployeeNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-1328642681798874502021-06-13T20:52:37.921-07:002021-06-13T20:52:37.921-07:00Venish tried to prove to me that David Pack was a ...Venish tried to prove to me that David Pack was a faithful man. He was Pack's shrill. Turning on him and changing horses to maintain the paid position of "minister" is not righteous. Pack is a liar? So what. Venish was a liar when preaching about his leader, Pack. What he preaches now is nothing new.<br /><br />I pointed out to Venish that in Pack's series on "21st Century Apostle" he used the word "me" and "I" almost 200 times. But Pack and HWA were considered to be infallible. <br /><br />Men look to other men. It is 'unnatural'. It is also weak. Far easier to be told what to believe that to learn it for yourself. This is the appeal of HWA, GRF and DCP.<br /><br />Former ministers should hang their head in shame for leading people astray. Better to fear God's wrath than rebrand yourself as someone who can help other see simply because they were in the inner sanctum of COG's and had a falling out. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-69378591582027672872015-03-19T22:35:13.780-07:002015-03-19T22:35:13.780-07:00Hot sex between member and minister around Nashvil...Hot sex between member and minister around Nashville rcg. Also a known sexual pervert is allowed to text poor little ladies at 3am. What a nice guy. How can a tall guy like Davy be so small. Also His geneology is not from royalty,He actually came from a circus tallman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-20324524155277444142014-12-27T22:40:02.802-08:002014-12-27T22:40:02.802-08:00I rember being told that we were the cream of the ...I rember being told that we were the cream of the crud.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16006878292683010440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-35754040657295680802014-12-27T22:30:17.642-08:002014-12-27T22:30:17.642-08:00Someone has found out that I am a former member of...Someone has found out that I am a former member of wwcg, now they leave anomyous messages to attend Packs or one of the other splinter groups. People remind me of of animals or birds...I saw a weak bird that the other birds were trying to peck to death, that's what harassment is like to me. Anyway, just wanted to vent. I am an old woman now & would like for them to leave me alone.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-22120299080254393202014-11-21T07:06:51.754-08:002014-11-21T07:06:51.754-08:00It has been almost 20 years since I left the Churc...It has been almost 20 years since I left the Church. I still suffer from depression. I think I have found my answer with Discovering the Jewish Jewish. He is on almost every day on tv.<br />BAAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16006878292683010440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-51183269841793466892013-06-23T10:50:10.115-07:002013-06-23T10:50:10.115-07:00Pack is now telling his followers that this August...Pack is now telling his followers that this August (2013) several other church leaders (his competition) will be killed in a rain of fire from above. Pack has claimed that God has told him that he is the modern apostle and that this will happen. Listening to him makes my stomach turn. Does no one see that he is a liar and is quite insane? Charismatic and quite insane.<br /><br />He is doubling down on his push to get his members to give give give everything and then more to fund his insanity. They just buy into his narcissistic insanity and don't realize that he is a true delusional sociopath who has learned how to stroke their egos to get the money and power he demands in homage for his obvious superior intellect [gag].<br /><br />I feel so bad for the people that have been taken in by this sociopath - they will loose everything. I wonder what Pack is going to say when August comes and goes and he is wrong? I hope he has not gone so far as to ensure that this will occur by nefarious means.<br /><br />To this day I don't understand why anyone would stay in any church that puts tithing and money at the top of their list of requirements to be a member of their church. Any church that tries to strong arm me into giving money will see nothing from me other than my back as I walk out the door.<br /><br />Pack pretty much tells his members that they have to tithe three times, each being at a MINIMUM 10% of their income (Gross, not net - they are insistent on that point). Who could hear this this without smelling something rotten in Denmark?<br /><br />That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain— ShakespeareAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-62296407462883444952013-05-15T10:14:16.425-07:002013-05-15T10:14:16.425-07:00Anyone who would believe a RCG minister, past or p...Anyone who would believe a RCG minister, past or present, is the kind of idiot that frequents the blog. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-37372299183298106682013-05-13T17:17:41.577-07:002013-05-13T17:17:41.577-07:00One anon declared, "God exists otherwise we w...One anon declared, "God exists otherwise we wouldn't be here in the first place."<br /><br />And another anon asked, "WHA-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-T???"<br /><br /><br />Second anon, no need to be so incredulous. This is normal logic in some subcultures: X exists; therefore Y also exists. <br /><br />Reminds me of a Florida Cracker I hunted deer with once. At the end of the day he told me excitedly that he had shot at a wild turkey with his deer rifle but missed it. Turkeys were present in our area but sort of scarce. That must have been why he felt the need to show me proof that he actually had seen a turkey. He held up the empty cartridge case from the round he claimed to have fired at it.Retired Profnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-46009549291527534282013-05-13T11:44:45.205-07:002013-05-13T11:44:45.205-07:00Not sure if those UCG scumbags believe what they&#...Not sure if those UCG scumbags believe what they've been professing since May 1995, or if they believe closer to Tkach and have been faking it since 1995, or if they don't "believe in" anything, but will say and do anything so long as it means they can hold onto a paycheck and power.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-30725088126755400162013-05-13T10:45:10.083-07:002013-05-13T10:45:10.083-07:00Lying sometimes pays well.
Just look at the group...Lying sometimes pays well.<br /><br />Just look at the group that formed the UCG. They were clearly conniving deceitful liars as they planned their UCG plans while collecting tithes and salaries while in the WCG.<br /><br />Many WCG members were even disfellowshipped by those UCG scumbags for stating EXACTLY what those UCG scumbags believed at that time, in order for the UCG scumbags to be able to continue on their mission to hide their beliefs while lying and plotting to form their own splinter group which would ensure their salaries and cushy retirement plans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-31858821156414259682013-05-13T00:09:09.536-07:002013-05-13T00:09:09.536-07:00I am fine with people being either believing there...I am fine with people being either believing there's a god, believing there isn't a god, or being unsure. No problem with people expressing their viewpoint and opinion there. But start telling everyone all the reasons why your Armstrongite splinter is amazing, wonderful, and flawless, and that's where I puke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-26158572353534796862013-05-12T20:45:00.337-07:002013-05-12T20:45:00.337-07:00"God exists otherwise we wouldn't be here..."God exists otherwise we wouldn't be here in the first place."<br /><br />WHA-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-T???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-57822750677115443122013-05-12T15:55:32.398-07:002013-05-12T15:55:32.398-07:00I agree to a point with Anon @ May 12, 2013 at 10:...I agree to a point with Anon @ May 12, 2013 at 10:14 AM. It works both ways. There are theists who get very angry at atheists too. Let everyone believe what they want to believe. In the end the truth will be revealed one way or another. I take the theistic road for a variety of reasons but we all need to recognize that not everyone will be either theists or atheists, and both can't be right. Anger will not resolve the situation either. Facts do, and the facts are clear; God exists otherwise we wouldn't be here in the first place. The belief in the accidental and purposeless existence of everything is such a dumb idea, and also is unscientific as it would break several known laws of physics. No, there has to be a super intelligent designer and creator. There is no alternative. But as I said, each to their own.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-64930296414978611382013-05-12T11:59:30.422-07:002013-05-12T11:59:30.422-07:00And then there's the whole "I've been...And then there's the whole "I've been a minister of Jesus Christ" bit.<br /><br />More like a minister of the law and British Israelism, to be precise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-69390135522686342642013-05-12T11:55:24.771-07:002013-05-12T11:55:24.771-07:00Sorry, but any video that starts with the presente...Sorry, but any video that starts with the presenter saying "Greetings, friends" automatically gets turned off by me.<br /><br />Call it a reverse-Pavlovian response.RSKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-62487675882377647842013-05-12T11:04:00.742-07:002013-05-12T11:04:00.742-07:00It doesn't sound like you're turning into ...It doesn't sound like you're turning into an atheist, bitter or otherwise. It sounds like someone has been putting pressure on you to adopt atheism and you're kind of resentful of it. Underneath you're a decided theist.<br /><br />I myself, quite without pressure, think god is a wonderful idea, but probably no more than that. I'm a happy agnostic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-34767931384082774312013-05-12T10:14:36.167-07:002013-05-12T10:14:36.167-07:00Atheists who simply don't believe in God never...Atheists who simply don't believe in God never bother me. But the evangelical atheist crowd, the "anti-theists," are a bunch of stupid dicks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-55731078781115789662013-05-12T09:45:00.245-07:002013-05-12T09:45:00.245-07:00Yahshua is a sarcastic, witty guy with serious bal...Yahshua is a sarcastic, witty guy with serious balls. He often publicly humiliated assholes.<br />He had that most enviable sarcastic technique of calling someone (Pharisees, etc) a SOB & them not realizing it til later.<br /><br />Note in Matthew how He addresses the Pharisees, He all but tells them to f— off. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-81391410235865417642013-05-12T09:02:03.538-07:002013-05-12T09:02:03.538-07:00Ok, so im reluctantly turning into a bitter atheis...Ok, so im reluctantly turning into a bitter atheist due to this and other Armstrong and bible bashing sites. it was very refreshing to check out Venish's other you tube video called why were you born...sure, we all heard it before but seriously..im not buying this God doesn't exist shit...Too bad David Pack does exist. Anonymous seeker of truthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-77494556039247999922013-05-12T07:21:53.157-07:002013-05-12T07:21:53.157-07:00The reason that Davey Pack and the other would-be ...The reason that Davey Pack and the other would-be gurus of the Cult of Herbert Armstrong is well described by <a href="http://aftermath-surviving-psychopathy.org/radio/index.php/2011/03/09/aftermath-radio-psychopathy-and-the-ministry-how-vulnerable-are-you/" rel="nofollow">Aftermath Radio: Psychopathy and the Ministry… How Vulnerable Are You?</a> Cult religion offers psychopaths such opportunities.<br /><br />The reference comes from The Painful Truth blog, <a href="http://hwarmstrong.com/wordpress/2013/05/11/theft-by-authority-those-rotten-sons-of-bitches/" rel="nofollow">Theft by Authority</a>.<br /><br />It isn't that we were conned because we are gullible, it's because we encountered psychopaths whose superior skills render us incapacitated as prey before a finely honed predator.<br /><br />You should also read "Snakes in Suits" which is linked to by the article: If you don't know how psychopaths work, you could be "sifted as wheat" too, leaving your life a shambles of dysfunctional chaotic disorder (and if you want your life to be an utter failure, then Davey Pack is a good place to start).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-4532190448327557162013-05-12T07:17:34.125-07:002013-05-12T07:17:34.125-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-65062619322981886922013-05-12T07:15:29.000-07:002013-05-12T07:15:29.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-89596048378127283882013-05-12T03:23:14.358-07:002013-05-12T03:23:14.358-07:00We only have ourselves to blame for putting a pers...We only have ourselves to blame for putting a person, whether HWA, Meredith, Flurry, Pack, and all other HWA remnant false ministers - between us and God. Sometimes, my hair also stands on end to realize how much gullible I was then. But this is already the Information Age. The internet has made information available freely to everyone. All one needs to do is open up his mind to see what the other side of the coin is. To remain close minded in an Information Age is a tragedy and we have only the self to blame. We are all adults and responsible for our decisions and actions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-90730032293680455322013-05-11T15:30:12.898-07:002013-05-11T15:30:12.898-07:00The stronger one's faith in Dave's views t...The stronger one's faith in Dave's views the stronger the delusion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-81903429804014545672013-05-11T14:00:33.452-07:002013-05-11T14:00:33.452-07:00Indeed the truth always sets us free, and lies imp...Indeed the truth always sets us free, and lies imprisons us. The COGs are excellent examples of the latter. Christ himself hated the lies of the Pharisees and Sadducees. Imagine what he would say today about the COGs given their greater lies and the resultant harm on families and individuals.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com