tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post361746483215341615..comments2024-03-19T04:58:13.877-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Why Do COG Members Still Defend Abusive Church Leaders?NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-71931963119899756112017-05-16T05:00:07.784-07:002017-05-16T05:00:07.784-07:00Reading the comments of those defending the cog sp...Reading the comments of those defending the cog splinter leaders shows continual repitition of thought stopping phases and ideas such as "accusers if the bretheren" The conditioning runs so deep that they are unable to separate legitimate criticism from the emotion that often comes along with that criticism. Any distancing from the emotional point of view to a more objective evaluation is more difficult for those deeply indoctrinated. Neuroscience has been a mild interest of mine lately and something that I found interesting is that when the brain runs along a particular groove it is actually painful to forge new pathways. When blogs such as this challenge the mental pathways, the reaction is pain and a desire to "make it stop". However those who confront the pain, taking a step away from the emotional response are able to make possible a life separate from the group. And interestingly possitive emotion begins to have a greater capacity.Mickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12447091547346560787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-56061228990536574422017-05-15T13:40:19.301-07:002017-05-15T13:40:19.301-07:00Hungry Hearts Ministries would NEVER be abusive to...Hungry Hearts Ministries would NEVER be abusive to it's members.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-41503606317538723952017-05-15T00:05:14.728-07:002017-05-15T00:05:14.728-07:00I can fully apreciate people having lost kin to nu...I can fully apreciate people having lost kin to nudged faith into shamanic practices likening said shamans to atrocious political world leaders.<br /><br />I could also see people defending those same shaman(ic) practices rigorously having made the ultimate sacrifice by losing kin.<br /><br /><br />The one time I consulted a sangoma in Swaziland I believe, he advise me to organize a party in order to have a better life. And I didn't even have to save 2nd tithe. It was all in the bones. Unfortunately later that day soldiers restricted my access to the Kings (yearly) wedding party. Hindering my progress in that regard.<br /><br /><br />Unlike most people I am not so much fascinated by the Manson types. After having studied them I find them boring and predictable. Said German leader was also a boring person stuck in his routines. I am however fascinated by the Manson girls or the groupies. It seems these leaders tell them what to do and what not or give them licence in their vices.<br /><br />nck<br /><br /><br /><br />nckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-74471060711877570702017-05-14T22:52:20.075-07:002017-05-14T22:52:20.075-07:00Being raised in the cult from birth?Being raised in the cult from birth?Stephen Schleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01369663871929439310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-47836197198959980552017-05-14T19:42:36.170-07:002017-05-14T19:42:36.170-07:00You guys should check out Hungry Hearts Ministries...You guys should check out Hungry Hearts Ministries. We preach TRUTH!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13186152518178480462017-05-14T16:43:51.348-07:002017-05-14T16:43:51.348-07:00Stockholm Syndrome.....Stockholm Syndrome.....True Breadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04630174767307245168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-50552058204738627642017-05-14T15:52:21.531-07:002017-05-14T15:52:21.531-07:00LOL!...
"Godwin's law (or Godwin's r...LOL!...<br /><br />"Godwin's law (or Godwin's rule of Hitler analogies)[is an Internet adage which asserts that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Hitler approaches—that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or his deeds."<br /><br />OK , NCK , you win! I change my analogy to Stalin from Hitler! <br /><br />To address your other question, I stop associating with anyone that engages in egregious immoral or irrational behavior. This of course implies that I have option to do so. In the case of Mr. Trump, he is the President of the United States, and I have no say or ability to change that, even if I did want that. Same held true with Obama. In the case of a cult leader, I indeed have the option of staying or leaving, it is something within my empirical universe that I have direct control and accountablity over. <br /><br />Its that simple NCK ! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910856904624749641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-49066672729378584382017-05-14T14:29:28.985-07:002017-05-14T14:29:28.985-07:00People who profess to be, or are considered to be ...People who profess to be, or are considered to be authorities or leaders in a given field are culpable for the bad results of any misinterpretations that they teach or spread, or any downright stupid things which they spread to further their agendas. You pressure people, or tell them to do something, you are responsible for the consequences. It is as simple as that.<br /><br />By equating the ancient shamans who did "healings" as part of pagan religions with modern, knowledgable, highly trained medical professionals, Herbert W. Armstrong amassed a body count, admittedly smaller than that of Adolf Hitler, but nonetheless an unneccessary body count driven by a fabricated distortion every bit as was Hitler. <br /><br />The world knows Hitler as a war criminal and mass murderer. Why should HWA get a pass because his philosophy was religious rather than Hitler's secular one?<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-76994223099727116422017-05-14T14:07:59.984-07:002017-05-14T14:07:59.984-07:00Thank you RSK.
Indeed. I am protecting her integr...Thank you RSK.<br /><br />Indeed. I am protecting her integrity and took the opportunity to chat pleasantly.<br /><br />Ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-11711565843502289972017-05-14T14:00:09.405-07:002017-05-14T14:00:09.405-07:00Yes Connie.
I enjoy your research every now and t...Yes Connie.<br /><br />I enjoy your research every now and then. I just didnt expect the nogo Hitler argument from an experienced blogger.<br /><br />I have just watched two documentaries about that psychological experiment turning random nice people into 2 competing groups of animals destroying each others property within 24 hours.<br /><br />Much to the chagrin of the documentary makers who have to break off filming earlier than expected.<br /><br />Ah humans....<br /><br />Could you please hand me the salt and pepper dear.........SCHNELL.<br /><br />Ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-80073120592554699512017-05-14T13:57:31.101-07:002017-05-14T13:57:31.101-07:00Nck was probably referencing Godwins Law.Nck was probably referencing Godwins Law.RSKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-80547054202269270292017-05-14T13:00:22.859-07:002017-05-14T13:00:22.859-07:00NCK-
My point was that even the most ATROCIOUS of...NCK-<br /><br />My point was that even the most ATROCIOUS of people can appear and act as "good people" on occasion. Hitler was used as an example. Yes, even despots can be on good behavior at times. . <br /><br />Many people have dismissed despicable. eternally damnable, behavior of church leaders , because they have done "so much good". <br /><br />I was illustrating the folly of such reasoning. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910856904624749641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-64778984434625979062017-05-14T09:54:06.304-07:002017-05-14T09:54:06.304-07:00Connie.
What a poor posting from someone so knowl...Connie.<br /><br />What a poor posting from someone so knowledgeable on the mores of internet. Having an off day?<br /><br />You seem to enjoy the company of such polite german man gently asking to pass the salt. Guess what he also beat your arch enemy for many wars in just ten days. <br /><br />The point is. When would you stop adoring him. I am not doubting your evaluation skills IN THE END though.<br /><br />Purely rhetorical question. No need to answer. Where does the buck stop for you and your current POTUS?<br /><br />Ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-43767381456714217492017-05-14T08:51:44.403-07:002017-05-14T08:51:44.403-07:00My observation was that many members whitewashed a...My observation was that many members whitewashed abusive ministers and members because they themselves were abusive. They regarded the ministers as the storm troopers or the tip of the spear in acclimatizing members to be mistreated. These abusive members wanted to free load on the coat tails of these ministers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-5095145507165093302017-05-14T08:16:44.091-07:002017-05-14T08:16:44.091-07:00Even Hitler was known to be quite gracious and pol...Even Hitler was known to be quite gracious and polite at dinner parties and social events. He would say things like "please pass the salt" , and praise people and the like, and even at times act quite contrite and humble. <br /><br />But in the end, and in final overall evaluation...HE WAS STILL HITLER! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910856904624749641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-7271503831418047432017-05-14T05:02:57.472-07:002017-05-14T05:02:57.472-07:00Thanks for sharing this. It's truly disgusting...Thanks for sharing this. It's truly disgusting the way these groups operate. I get their magazines etc but have only heard second hand about this sort of thing, especially with the PCG, which seems to be the worst.Stephen Korsmanhttp://blog.theotokos.co.za/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13010928731356118052017-05-14T00:58:34.291-07:002017-05-14T00:58:34.291-07:00Brainwashing. They believe that God has set up ze...Brainwashing. They believe that God has set up zero - tolerance leaders as His gatekeepers. If they see this as righteousness, God's character in action, why would it all suddenly change in the Kingdom? It wouldn't. Based on their own doctrinal approach, salvation is going to be a miserable experience, except that those who qualify now will get to be the ones causing all of the misery and grief instead of suffering it. It's pretty hollow to believe that salvation is a transition from victim to predator.<br /><br />Fortunately, I believe something much better awaits us. Byker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.com