tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post4134479640255734460..comments2024-03-29T03:57:21.878-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Gerald Weston: God is NOT Mocked! The End Is Near!NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-62334963840145109142017-07-25T08:29:47.928-07:002017-07-25T08:29:47.928-07:00No, 12:31. He gets bored while in these mass meeti...No, 12:31. He gets bored while in these mass meetings with the Rothchilds and other international movers and shakers, or while sitting in her majesty's court in his powdered wig listening to boring testimony. Posting to Banned during these meetings and court sessions is like listening to a Yankees game through the earplug of your transistor radio used to be. At least we know he's not one of the dudes sitting at his computer in his skivvies in some dank basement and drinking cheap sherry wine.<br /><br />LOL,<br />BB<br /><br /><br />That is just about as accurate as can be if one would just shuffle a bit with family names, institutions and asset class. <br /><br />But hey don't get me started. It's proven to be a bit too much for some. I stand admonished to initiate tapering on banned. The lone voice of 12:31 has spoken, perhaps representing the people at large.<br /><br />LOL<br /><br />ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-77873684980372082692017-07-25T04:35:14.947-07:002017-07-25T04:35:14.947-07:00This is Gerald Weston,
The notion of us ministers ...This is Gerald Weston,<br />The notion of us ministers repenting is absurd. Ministers never need to repent. They are entitled to the perks of lording over members, beating them, feeding them baby milk in order to maintain minister power and superiority. The ministers define what's right and wrong, so how can they do wrong. All complaints against the ministers will be severely dealt with. So no more blabber about the ministers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-84439427040351601092017-07-25T04:20:56.512-07:002017-07-25T04:20:56.512-07:00Weston is right about God not being mocked. Which ...Weston is right about God not being mocked. Which is why God is not blessing Westons church. The solution? The ministers need to stop lording it over members lives and faith. They need to repent of beating the sheep which the bible and mans laws condemn. They need to repent of not feeding their flock meat.<br />But wait, the ministers sins are off the table. They must never be mentioned, and everyone must pretend that they don't exist. Only the sheep need to repent.<br />Yes Mr Weston, God is not mocked.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-69851398952881541682017-07-25T01:55:33.765-07:002017-07-25T01:55:33.765-07:00No, 12:31. He gets bored while in these mass meet...No, 12:31. He gets bored while in these mass meetings with the Rothchilds and other international movers and shakers, or while sitting in her majesty's court in his powdered wig listening to boring testimony. Posting to Banned during these meetings and court sessions is like listening to a Yankees game through the earplug of your transistor radio used to be. At least we know he's not one of the dudes sitting at his computer in his skivvies in some dank basement and drinking cheap sherry wine.<br /><br />LOL,<br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13667562217401334562017-07-25T01:10:12.086-07:002017-07-25T01:10:12.086-07:0012:31
I will take your admonishment.
Although it ...12:31<br /><br />I will take your admonishment.<br />Although it is no excuse I try and concentrate on one thread as much as possible as not to disturb the other topics too much. Another reason is that my minds works through association or annecdotical, (a bit like Ronald Reagan's short stories) since scientific thesis take too much time.<br /><br />I bear no ill will toward those acting like a curbing American destroyer passing by the Spratlys.<br /><br />ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-42232499861235960872017-07-25T00:31:48.088-07:002017-07-25T00:31:48.088-07:00All these posts by Nck.
Has his doctor told him th...All these posts by Nck.<br />Has his doctor told him that he has months to live?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-48249263795980922862017-07-24T20:40:51.313-07:002017-07-24T20:40:51.313-07:00If the prophecies of HWA and Germany were true;fla...If the prophecies of HWA and Germany were true;flags bearing the swastika would have been flying in America for the last 35 yearsthe Ocelothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07042237147554687481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-41665269698329869872017-07-24T16:59:28.938-07:002017-07-24T16:59:28.938-07:007:07, the Anglicans didn't wreck my family and...7:07, the Anglicans didn't wreck my family and adolescence with BI. Herbie did. Had he not scammed my parents, I seriously doubt that I'd know there was such a theory as British Israelism even today, let alone German Assyrianism. I'm not going to be politically correct by placing some kind of cautionary note in all of my posts to the effect that others originated it. British Israelism in and of itself is rather benign, although chauvinistic. It does not do serious damage unless you introduce it into race relations, or couple it with false prophecy.<br /><br />As for Herb, I certainly hope that people are still making pilgrimmages to Altadena to urinate on his grave.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-81646366571861391132017-07-24T10:57:15.553-07:002017-07-24T10:57:15.553-07:007:07
2 million only. That is a disappointing numbe...7:07<br />2 million only. That is a disappointing number translating into only 15 million people today.<br />HWA is specifically singled out as the most prolific dissiminator of BI ideology in the 20th century though. I hate quoting sources since they put people even further astray. But one of those sources is "The Messianic Legacy" by Baigent. A book completely debunked in its premiss but still interesting for its analysis of movements like WCG and contexts in which they flourish.<br /><br /><br />BB: 7:47<br />DNA science is not so hard to understand. Perhaps the "ostrich" on banned is a very nice old person. Younger than 40 years I would be appalled by the "duck and cover."<br /><br />7:47 raises interesting points about what would constitute the definition of a biblical people. How much would it stretch from "the stranger amongst you", would a minority rulership be required like in most former Spanish Colonies in the Southern Hemisphere. With Spanish presidents and subjugated mayan or former indigenous marjority? <br /><br />The Jewish claim of the Ethiopians. Was "operation Solomon or Operation Moses, the airlifting of 35 planes of black people to Israel to "save jews". Whereas Rastafari in the Caribean would mostly be comprised of "Cultural Jews" not rabinically recognized jews.<br /><br />Man BB you make my headspin while I have to prepare position for the Fed's next move.<br />I do need a mayan authority for insider trading, happen to know one? <br /><br />Going by rabinnical definition I see they are more liberal than HWA on what constitutes a jew. From the outside I see Indian people or Black, but the jewish authorities are able to make falashas or other from it.<br /><br />Your 11:24 posting requires even more thinking on my part.<br />To acknowledge a Socratian debate would merely be a "patting on the back" of myself to which I do not aspire. But again you raise interesting points now that you are accurately portraying WCG ideology. <br /><br />Would people of Turkish descent conscripted in the German army be considered "the rod of mine iron". Or would they not be Assyrians. Did the Romans really conquer Britain or was it the contingent of Jordanian auxilliary bowmen on the Wall of Hadrian???<br /><br />BB. You rock my world. All history books need to be re written I conclude so far.<br /><br />Wow, did the people of Egypt build the pyramids. Or are they just a bunch of Arab usurpers of the glories of other peoples. Perhaps they are merely the custodians.<br /><br />What were the Ptolemean Egyptians? Again Greek rulers over a vast Egyptian population. Cleopatra. A british jewish actress. OR a Greek lass? An Egyptian?<br /><br />The Romanovs, those famous Russian leaders. 90% German.<br /><br />I gotta stop. Jared is speaking, panic......<br /><br />nck<br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /> nckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-34156324377468649972017-07-24T07:47:23.187-07:002017-07-24T07:47:23.187-07:00Wow, nck, that's really taking things into rev...Wow, nck, that's really taking things into reverse. My point on the tribal purity was not the dating policies at AC. My point was that you can't really call modern day people Manasseh and Ephraim if they are either of completely different genetic makeup from Israelites, or have been so diluted by assimilation and melting pot activity that the majority of their dna is no longer Manassite or Ephraimite. <br /><br />When I asked about this as an AC student, I was told that for hundreds of years, God had supernaturally filtered those who remained in England and those who colonized America to create modern day Ephraim and modern day Manasseh so that the prophecies could be fulfilled. With a readily observable melting pot surrounding us, that was not a satisfactory answer then, and it's not a satisfactory answer now, especially with what genetic science has taught us about completely different haplotypes, and origins. This tribal thing and prophecy is why COGlodytes fight and disbelieve the DNA science, or claim that it is not understandable.<br /><br />BB Byker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-72127165672694712482017-07-24T07:07:57.972-07:002017-07-24T07:07:57.972-07:00BB
During the 1800s, it was the official doctrine ...BB<br />During the 1800s, it was the official doctrine of the 2 million strong Anglican church that the British empire was Gods fulfilment of His promise to Abraham of 'a nation and company of nation.' No doubt many others of that period came to the same conclusion. This all happened before the birth of HWA. <br />Your constant attributing of BI to Herb alone is intellectually dishonest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-88889738939949484272017-07-23T23:24:14.437-07:002017-07-23T23:24:14.437-07:00Nck, how do you have two distinct tribes for natio...Nck, how do you have two distinct tribes for nation-building without a certain degree of purity? How do you hold a group of people accountable for forgetting their culture, heritage, and laws if they are not recognizable as members of the tribe, but are Heinz 57 mongrels as most of us are? Combining ingredients chemically, alters the properties. Take a powerful explosive, and combine it with a deadly gas, and you get NaCl, salt, a compound necessary for and beneficial for a healthy life. Mix the right edible ingredients, and you get a chocolate cake. Dilute an Israelite enough over thousands of years, and the offspring is no longer recognizable as an Israelite. I eat at one sub place occasionally, where they offer mayonnaise, mustard, or mayo-mustard. If they ran out of mayonnaise, and a patron was allergic to mustard, he would never substitute the mayo-mustard to moisten up the sub.<br /><br />Predominance of the Israelite DNA would be the entire key to receiving the promises of Abraham, or being punished for "forgetting" the terms of the covenant made with the Israelites. You can't just arbitrarily pick the wealthiest nations on planet Earth, and say "Ah! These are the Israelites! They're going to be punished!" HWA knew this, which is why he invoked BI before anyone was actually able to research and debunk it, and why he hated integration and inter-marriage. He knew that his version of the prophecies could be totally thwarted if everyone was everything.<br /><br />Native Americans go to great lengths tracing heritage through public records and genealogies to support admission of individuals to their tribes. Theories and suppositions won't cut it. Armstrongism never bothered to delve into these intricasies to support tribal membership for Manasseh and Ephraim. Boom! You're rich, you're white like everyone in the Bible, and you don't keep the sabbath, so poof! The Germans are Assyrian and are going to punish you! HWA really dummied a lot of complex things down, and then went about enriching himself by being a bottom-feeder!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-90680554339785940902017-07-23T22:11:30.455-07:002017-07-23T22:11:30.455-07:00Since there is a habit of twisting my words.
To sp...Since there is a habit of twisting my words.<br />To specify "tribal pureness".<br /><br />I never heard of any policy at AC or WCG to prohibit and prevent the intermarriage of a French student with an American, an Irish with a Swede, A Brit with Swiss. According to the prevalent ideology this would be "tribal mixing" and people had no reservation in engaging in such activities. <br /><br />I did hear about petting and necking, but those would be universal human behaviorial traits as compared to "dating widely" which would be an entirely American cultural phenomenon as are the different drinking ages.<br /><br />ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-82426094555911493312017-07-23T21:27:46.341-07:002017-07-23T21:27:46.341-07:005:03
My rhetorical question meant that there is h...5:03<br /><br />My rhetorical question meant that there is hardly anything on the Saxons that would surprise EXCEPT if they had come through the Channel tunnel.<br /><br />Dont forget the Jutes, the Belgian tribes and the indiginous Cornish and those pesky Normans and Flemish knights in 1066. The Beatles from Irish descent. And the Beegees Australians or British?<br /><br />True Bread, I meant, in the great scheme of things we did 100.000 years without air travel. USA the beast power? How EG White great controversy of yours?<br /><br />BB. Where does that pureness doctrine come from? As I recall there was talk of "being descended from..." and "sifting" not pureness. I mean there were laws/concerns against Irish immigration but that was of their catholicism into Wasp dominated territory. <br /><br />Ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-80500003087582064642017-07-23T19:16:55.479-07:002017-07-23T19:16:55.479-07:00typical WCG etc nonsense...always pick on the &quo...typical WCG etc nonsense...always pick on the "Germans". The Third Reich of Hitler was just that, the Third resurrection of the Roman Empire. We (USA) are the Fourth and final Reich. That's where all of these brain dead HWA split offs are wrong..they are locked in 1934 with Herb's confused "prophecies". HWA is dead. It's very simple actually..<br /><br />The King of the North : USA, NATO, UN, EU, Israel (Rev 13:1 7 heads, ten horns)<br />The King of the South : Islamic nations<br />The Kings of the East : Russia China, BRICS nations<br /><br />Trump leading candidate for the AC, with Francis the FP...<br /><br />you can watch it unfold on your TVs....<br /><br />www.youtube.com/kingair001<br /><br />PS: nck is a clown...the Wright Brothers unlocked controlled flight, you amateur True Breadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04630174767307245168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-18328380242167075172017-07-23T18:45:15.877-07:002017-07-23T18:45:15.877-07:00Several years back, in another discussion of the i...Several years back, in another discussion of the implausibility of BI, the many groups which had gone into the British melting pot and had been fully assimilated in the history leading up to the 1600's were mentioned and discussed. Purity of two tribes identifiable as Manasseh and Ephraim had already been rendered impossible by the time England colonized the new magic land.<br /><br />HWA was bullheaded, but he was not stupid. I believe that he knew of the British melting pot, yet chose to obfuscate it as he created the marketing plan for his religion. Obviously he knew better than to define Ephraim as the Angles (from which the term "English" is derived) and the Saxons as Manasseh. The terms Angle and Saxon were collective terms each describing a group of tribes, and those tribes had intermarried amongst themselves and with the other inhabitants of England and Europe such that they were indistinguishable as members of individual tribes. It's why we use the term Anglo-Saxon today. None the less, HWA employed a theory of divine filtration to redefine the tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim and to make them into the US and BC for the purpose of "understanding" prophecy. And, of course, the moment the Mayflower landed, the mixing and melting continued with other European groups, Native Americans. and more often than is commonly acknowledged, with the then African slaves.<br /><br />Interestingly enough, the name of the British royal family had been "Saxe-Coburg and Gotha" until changed to "Windsor" during World War I by King George V to bypass the rabid anti-German sentiment caused by the war amongst the citizens of the British Empire. A royal proclamation accompanied, abandoning all of the titles which they had previously held under the German Crown. King George V was Emperor Wilhelm II's cousin! Patrilineally, British Royalty has been German starting with King Edward VII. Funny thing about "purity". So difficult to achieve and maintain, as everything around us moves toward that random state known as entropy. Entropy is the reason why there never were "pure" tribes even in antiquity. Matrilineally, Manasseh and Ephraim were of Egyptian heritage!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-7563956189163332522017-07-23T17:03:25.691-07:002017-07-23T17:03:25.691-07:00"Saxon travel to the British isles that would..."<i>Saxon travel to the British isles that would surprise me???</i>"<br /><br />What? You've never heard of the Anglo-Saxons, or the seven kingdoms that were successfully defended from the Viking invaders, and first united them into what would be later be called <i>England</i>, literally, "<i>land of the Angles</i>"?<br /><br />"<i>That would be a chronicle mentioning a tunnel OR some landbridge which desolved 10.000 years ago.</i>"<br /><br />You mean, like the tunnels and landbridges that facilitated the Vikings invaders? Like the tunnels and landbridges that allowed Christopher Columbus to make it to the West Indies? /sarcasmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-62021481864607095172017-07-23T15:53:36.202-07:002017-07-23T15:53:36.202-07:00Paybacks Are Hell.Paybacks Are Hell.I Know David Pack Is A False Apostlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-9456880508621010702017-07-23T15:14:28.376-07:002017-07-23T15:14:28.376-07:00Mr. Gerald Weston is getting up in years. Yes, the...Mr. Gerald Weston is getting up in years. Yes, the end is near.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-73794434798986459152017-07-23T13:45:07.598-07:002017-07-23T13:45:07.598-07:00I have visited all mentioned cities, areas, people...I have visited all mentioned cities, areas, peoples mentioned. Been twice to being yards from (what remains of) charlemain and nearly kissed with one of his (thousands of) descendants. (not cindy crawford unfortunately). <br /><br />Saxon travel to the British isles that would surprise me??? That would be a chronicle mentioning a tunnel OR some landbridge which desolved 10.000 years ago.<br /><br />Perhaps you mean the friendly invitation by allies just like NO country ever invaded another without the claim of invitation.<br /><br />Re Glorious revolution which was the last Saxon invasion of Britain by sheer military force, spun into a political invite.<br /><br />I love the Saxons.<br /><br />Ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-26607617102045443212017-07-23T13:34:17.626-07:002017-07-23T13:34:17.626-07:001:05
I couldn't have said it better. 100% agr...1:05<br /><br />I couldn't have said it better. 100% agreed on the offered time frame. Thanks for sharing.<br /><br />Ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-31961096524810453192017-07-23T13:05:59.949-07:002017-07-23T13:05:59.949-07:00nck wrote:
"People didn't move that much...nck wrote:<br /><br />"<i>People didn't move that much until the invention of the combustion engine.</i>"<br /><br />While it's true that modern transportation allows individuals to easily move all around the world, to suggest that the ancient tribes of Europe stayed put is grossly misleading, overly simplistic, and denies the records we have about the complex history of Europe.<br /><br />The histories of Claudius Ptolemy, Jordanes, Cassius Dio, Plutarch, Tacitus, Julius Caesar, Ammianus Marcellinus, Pliny the Elder, Livy, Strabo, and more, taken collectively, give us a picture of over 500 European "barbarian" tribes living north of Roman territory, groups them by language, tells of their many alliances, and also tells us of how a great number of individual tribes or subtribes picked up stakes and moved wholesale to another part of the continent or to the British Isles in ways you might find surprising.<br /><br />Once the Roman empire collapsed, darkness again largely fell upon Europe, as these tribes did not generally leave us written records of their own. We have a some medieval chroniclers but still, it's difficult for the most part to say conclusively for the vast majority of these hundreds of tribes who ended up where.<br /><br />You mentioned Saxony, and Hesse (Chatti), and while it is true that many places are named after where a prominent tribes or confederations wound up settling (Schwabenland comes to mind, named after the large Suebian confederation of tribes) this alone tells us nothing about all the places they may have previously settled, or indeed where factions may have broken off and gone to subsequently.<br /><br />The Saxons, not an individual tribe, but a group of tribes, is a <i>prime</i> example of a people who did not, or were not allowed, to stay put. The first we hear of them from Ptolemy and Tacitus, they are in <i>Old Saxony</i>, in the vicinity of the Danish peninsula. Some of them either originally settled or else spread down the northern coast into the Netherlands, especially Utrecht, and into Normandy as far as Bayeux. It is possible that the Saxons that crossed the channel to Britain were from among these Saxons, whose presence in Britain is mentioned by an anonymous writer in the early 5th century. Others went raiding down to the Italian peninsula with the Lombards under Alboin (a tribe who in the 1st century were neighbors of the Saxons in Old Saxony, but over 600 years made their way slowly southward to Lombardy) in the 6th century, and last we hear wound up settling in Provence in 573 after Alboin's assasination. For those who remained in Old Saxony, Charlemagne conquered them, forcibly converted them to Christianity and deported 10,000 of them to northern France following the Saxon Wars, the remnant of which were integrated with the Franks, and moved eastward into a new duchy known as Saxony, a remnant of which remains today as Lower Saxony.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-91284406828904543332017-07-23T11:14:27.661-07:002017-07-23T11:14:27.661-07:00John Q. Public on July 22 at 6:57 said..."kar...John Q. Public on July 22 at 6:57 said..."karma is a bitch!"<br /><br />Allusion to the wrong religion, John Q. Are you a follower of Bob Thiel, or something? He too tosses around sayings from exotic non-Abrahamic superstitions. <br /><br />You're supposed to say, "You have sown the wind, and you will reap the whirlwind."Retired Profnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-72982448799997725972017-07-23T10:54:33.983-07:002017-07-23T10:54:33.983-07:00Exactly, Ed at 5:11! And, God is capable of mento...Exactly, Ed at 5:11! And, God is capable of mentoring. He doesn't need to zoom into worst case scenario to make His point. Especially in the case of people whose ancestors supposedly forgot their heritage and culture thousands of years ago. It's not as if Aunt Minnie made a conscious decision to reject her national identity and system of law today in our times, and the whole family decided to follow her, fully knowing what they were doing.<br /><br />BB Byker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-34789411215827616302017-07-23T10:47:49.891-07:002017-07-23T10:47:49.891-07:001:01, you are on the wrong side of peer-reviewed s...1:01, you are on the wrong side of peer-reviewed science. However, in the first place, we don't need DNA, because it was always easy to debunk British Israelism through various other methods, including your own Bible. DNA is just the most efficient way to accomplish the refutation. Anyone of average IQ can understand basic ethnic groups, and the identifying markers which are passed from generation to generation by mothers and fathers. We obtain our information from people who do have doctorates in the actual science, and we call that process "education".<br /><br />By the way, I've never heard of anyone who talks with a "folk" tongue. Do you mean that my comments are all based on an appreciation for the music of Joan Baez, Bob Dylan, Peter Paul and Mary, and Ian and Sylvia? That can't be. I've never been a folkie, I've always been a rock n roller.<br /><br />I do agree with one of your statements. People can be conned and deceived. Actually that's why all of us are here - to warn others about the person responsible for having deceived us, and the fraudulent deceptions of his which are still floating around out there.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.com