tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post4575016754901109901..comments2024-03-28T22:03:24.506-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Thiel: COG7 Celebration of 150 Years of Bible Advocate To Be Short LivedNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-32181948060000810942012-08-15T05:43:06.172-07:002012-08-15T05:43:06.172-07:00Thiel refuses to remove the beam from his own eye ...Thiel refuses to remove the beam from his own eye -- a clear indictment, based on the philosophy he claims to uphold, of his own words.<br /><br />What does this man do all day? "Obsession" would be a mild way of describing his chosen avocation. His blog/web posts are longer than many college essays. His website is cluttered with book-length justification pieces and rants against others who believe essentially the same things that he does.<br /><br />He is as focused on sowing discord as he is on encouraging harmony. It's a technique he learned from his mentors, HWA and RCM. "The PROOF that we're chosen is that we're RIGHT." Until, of course, they're forced to admit that they were wrong about something. Round and round it goes.<br /><br />Where is the humility? Where is the compassion? Where is the encouragement? Where is the longsuffering -- the patient, kind, benevolence that he would have us believe his "savior" preached.<br /><br />It is nowhere to be found. He is obsessed with the defensive. His mission is to prove he is right. Note that I didn't just say "his church" or "the church." I said him.<br /><br />In the context of the biblical text, that is an exercise in futility. Better to focus on what you don't or can't know, and remain humble in the face of it, than to boast of what you do know.<br /><br />He doth protest too much, methinks. And it gives him away, every time.Assistant Deaconnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-38200639977105136462012-08-14T11:08:18.733-07:002012-08-14T11:08:18.733-07:00Douglas wrote: "And the good news is that I h...Douglas wrote: "And the good news is that I have finally mastered HTML5, JQuery and CSS3 for some major web Mojo. (So now you know what I did this past summer.)"<br /><br />Congratulations! Are there any books that you would recommend or advise against?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-74050247455528937922012-08-13T13:26:47.177-07:002012-08-13T13:26:47.177-07:00Thiel seems to feel as if he is judge and jury whe...Thiel seems to feel as if he is judge and jury when it comes to these matters. I'm surprised that he didn't mention that COG7 has a "nonIsraelite" presiding. If Obama urinates the ACOGs off, imagine what Mr. Rose does!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-63501540116969254052012-08-13T07:48:54.209-07:002012-08-13T07:48:54.209-07:00No, no, Assistant Deacon, you have that wrong.
It...No, no, Assistant Deacon, you have that wrong.<br /><br />It's "Thiel" not "Theil".<br /><br />I know. I've made the same mistake.<br /><br />The rest of what you said is good, though.<br /><br /><i>The Plain Truth</i> didn't last 150 years. You might say that it was short lived. And, except that Meredith was cursed by Weinland, and the curse has extended Meredith's life (apparently) -- reverse curse (sort of like a reverse mortgage) where curses promising certain death, become blessings (although Spanky's health doesn't seem to be much a blessing these days), Meredith would be dead by now and the Living Church of God would fade, just like all the ACoGs which fade when the cultmeister dies (except for United, which splits like an amoeba periodically).<br /><br />Thiel looks right and sounds right -- but then he says something like this that is stupid and just plain nuts.<br /><br />I keep waiting for him to improve, but haven't a clue as to what medications or regimens might improve his kook condition.<br /><br />Walking away from Meredith and the LCG would be a start.<br /><br />It's hard to see what he finds so appealing in such losers.<br /><br />Hey, Bob, you're smarter than that.<br /><br />Just not as sane.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-10836020660981350392012-08-13T07:31:45.678-07:002012-08-13T07:31:45.678-07:00Theil: A legend in his own mind. And no one else&#...Theil: A legend in his own mind. And no one else's.Assistant Deaconnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-20884221667459178982012-08-13T06:15:44.246-07:002012-08-13T06:15:44.246-07:00Anyway, if my understanding of end time Bible prop...<i>Anyway, if my understanding of end time Bible prophecy is close to correct,</i><br /><br />Well, no, dum dum, it is not even close, but we'll cover Ezekiel 37 and Daniel 8 pretty soon over at The Painful Truth to show how wrong you are. And there's that thing about British Israelism. And are you still pushing Karl Zu Guttenberg as the (fifth) Beast of Revelation? If at first you don't succeed, try, try again (Barak Obama seems to be the fave in some venues -- but hey, you are all fools if you think that the Beast of Revelation shall shortly appear). And then there is this whole thing about church eras. What a foolish notion. If history repeated itself, there would be the seven archetypes in every age of the church.<br /><br />Of course, the above is a snarky comment on things that are not only not in evidence, but have no reality at all. Great Tribulation, Prophecy, Church Eras, Beasts. Bah! All fantasies in context.<br /><br />So, Booby, do you want to explain why the CoG7 is BIGGER than all the Armstrong CoGs combined?<br /><br />We will see shortly who has the lasting power.<br /><br />And he has the history all wrong. I have a private copy of the Master's Thesis on the History of the Church of God Seventh Day and let me tell you, Booby Thiel doesn't know what he is talking about. The CoG7 did not develop the way he said it would. The author, who I know very well, had access to Baptist materials they simply would not share with any of the Armstrongists, which, when the Armstrongists talk of church history, are simply nothing more than stupid fools. The "True History" nonsense was copied from Dugger and Dodd, who plagiarized it directly from Ellen G. White, who either plagiarized it from someone else or -- in true false prophetess fashion -- just made it all up -- just like Herbert Armstrong made it all up.<br /><br />And the good news is that I have finally mastered HTML5, JQuery and CSS3 for some major web Mojo. (So now you know what I did this past summer.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-36611128953393547772012-08-13T05:08:24.502-07:002012-08-13T05:08:24.502-07:00Of course, Bob Thiel ignores the obvious – The Chu...Of course, Bob Thiel ignores the obvious – The Church of God, Seventh Day (COG7D) is not the “dead” Sardis Church HWA brainwashed us into believing. They are a very live church, more so than WCG and its 700+ splinters. <br /><br />Bob Thiel also ignores these facts: 1) as HWA was building his religious empire in the 1950s, he allowed his Radio Church of God members to attend COG7D Sabbath Services in metropolitan areas where there was no Radio Church of God congregations established; 2) despite years of teaching that WCG was exclusively “God’s one and only true church”, HWA himself admitted that COG7D was “God’s Church” too; and 3) many ex-WCG members fled back to the parent COG7D church after little Joey Tkach hijacked WCG and liquidated the Church assets so he could be a multi millionaire. One of the best ex-WCG ministers (next to Dennis Diehl of course, LOL), the late Richard Wiedenheft, landed in the COG7D long before multi millionaire little Joey Tkach inherited the WCG back when the Church was embroiled in financial and sex scandal.<br /><br />Let’s give the Church of God, Seventh Day credit where credit is due. It is quite an accomplishment in this day and age to have a publication with the 150 year longevity of the Bible Advocate. Let’s also not forget like Mr. Thiel that the Bible Advocate opened its pages to the pen of HWA during the early years of his ministry.<br /><br />Richard <br /> <br />Lake of Fire Church of Godnoreply@blogger.com