tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post4606349783825072652..comments2024-03-28T22:34:16.707-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: The Living Church of God Needs 377 Page Manual To Tell Ministers How To BehaveNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-61109535892604880102018-10-24T20:14:38.427-07:002018-10-24T20:14:38.427-07:00It is sad how many people here sit behind their co...It is sad how many people here sit behind their computers and spew lies. <br />What is even sadder is that most people here leave the church for one tiny supposed error on the part of the Church and before you know it, they're no longer attending any church. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06697295741624475101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-75988682401948121462015-04-12T05:40:31.348-07:002015-04-12T05:40:31.348-07:00"Due to his literal interpretation of scriptu..."Due to his literal interpretation of scriptures, Meredith has used control and power as his operational standards. "<br /><br />Meredith picks and choses which scriptures to hold to "literally". <br /><br />When I first joined LCG I was told that what separated them from "mainstream" Christianity was that they believed and adhered to every word of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation instead of ignoring huge parts like the Catholics, Protestants, etc. <br /><br />What I learned after over a decade of membership was that they very strictly adhere to the letter of the law (Sabbath, Holy Days and so-on) but that they do not in anyway feel obligated to adhere to, preach on or PRACTICE the spirit of the law (love, forgiveness, mercy, or anything else preached by Christ EXCEPT the kingdom of God). <br /><br />They are just as fake as all the religions they look down their noses at. They still ignore what suits them and adhere to what suits them. They are respecters of men and obsessed with money just like all those churches they look down on. They claim to know Christ but don't do the things which He said just like those other churches.<br /><br />My membership in LCG has been a huge disappointment. I thought they were different, but they aren't. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-37772933762595373622015-04-11T19:14:23.733-07:002015-04-11T19:14:23.733-07:00NO2HWA I have a question...
Where is it in the 37...NO2HWA I have a question...<br /><br />Where is it in the 377 page manual that one should always keep track of members tithes, offerings, Facebook posts, questions asked related to issues regarding the proof or lack there of of "upgrades" or the seemingly unjust treatment of other church members, etc? Is it stated anywhere in the manual that it's advisable to keep records of all allegations, rumors and gossip that could be potentially used against members if needed years after the fact? Is it outlined that the best way to find out information about members is to ask their friends or to isolate their wives for questioning instead of going directly to the person you want information about? Does the manual state that Matthew 18 does not apply to LCG ministry and that if it's easier for you, you can just give people the boot without following the whole tedious process of letting the accused face their accusers, etc? Just curious. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-37009566437022345862015-04-09T05:26:52.372-07:002015-04-09T05:26:52.372-07:00I'm still stuck on the fact that none of Bob L...I'm still stuck on the fact that none of Bob League's children came to his funeral. What does that tell us???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-32724376728952576152015-04-08T08:48:35.272-07:002015-04-08T08:48:35.272-07:00"Due to his literal interpretation of scriptu..."Due to his literal interpretation of scriptures, Meredith has used control and power as his operational standards. "<br /><br />No, we doesn't take the scriptures literally, he distorts them. Jesus literally said "love your neighbor", we are supposed to take the scriptures literally... Unless you think love is superstition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-34315016354841472332015-04-08T07:30:27.023-07:002015-04-08T07:30:27.023-07:00Nailed it!
Things would be so much simpler if the...Nailed it!<br /><br />Things would be so much simpler if the ministers in the ACoGs had the Holy Spirit if it exists.<br /><br />Not that you could prove that it does by their example.<br /><br />It's also great this comes after the Passover during the Days of Unleavened Bread.<br /><br />You've helped them find a few crumbs... oh scratch that, you've pointed out the bread truck in their back yard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13403272432337575572015-04-08T07:30:03.695-07:002015-04-08T07:30:03.695-07:00It is so sad...Meredith just loves to wash other p...It is so sad...Meredith just loves to wash other peoples sins in public. So how does it feel Meredith? <br />Remember what you did to Tod Crockett? How about the Robinsons? Or even better how about Mr. Bryce? How about Josh and Tom and Ray and Ro and Theo and Lani Shall I go on? There are many many others. <br />YOU lied about Mr. Bryce and everything that happened when you fired him. YOU lied about all of them. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-50400578706686624862015-04-08T05:43:10.209-07:002015-04-08T05:43:10.209-07:00I have been in Living since its formation and my o...I have been in Living since its formation and my observance is that the men in power seem to have an extra measure of carnality. Not an extra measure of the Holy Spirit. I have never seen such an overt display of the lusts of the flesh:<br /><br />Galatians 5:19-21<br /><br />19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.<br /><br />These character traits are abounding at the LCG headquarters in Charlotte. Many of us are watching them with total disgust.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-53106281234035052842015-04-08T05:33:20.752-07:002015-04-08T05:33:20.752-07:00Most members don't even know of the existence ...Most members don't even know of the existence of this manual, let alone have one in their possession. That tells me that it was leaked to Banned by a disgruntled minister. Spanky is indeed losing control of the LCG. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-38857087459029060972015-04-08T02:58:42.619-07:002015-04-08T02:58:42.619-07:00That was a very beautiful post, No2HWA. You outdid...That was a very beautiful post, No2HWA. You outdid yourself with this one.Redfox712https://www.blogger.com/profile/17734930967002040931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-55081579139665722582015-04-07T23:53:15.077-07:002015-04-07T23:53:15.077-07:00This practically defines "dichotomy".
...This practically defines "dichotomy". <br /><br />I would submit that this is a textbook provided as a visible outer face, to be seen by outsiders who are intended to believe that the principles outlined in the book are the guiding paradigms for the ministry of the organization.<br /><br />Unfortunately, those who are governed by the organization that wrote the book have accumulated their own collection of what we might call "oral traditions". The oral traditions give a much more accurate reflection of the organization's character than does this facade of a handbook.<br /><br />Caveat Emptor<br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-73749352995127032632015-04-07T20:44:54.499-07:002015-04-07T20:44:54.499-07:00• Feed the flock and build all our members to the ...• Feed the flock and build all our members to the stature of Jesus Christ, as best we can.<br />LOL <br />• Be EXAMPLES to the Church at large and to the world of Christ’s way of life. <br />ROFL<br />• Learn and practice Servant Leadership in all our dealings with others.<br />LMFAOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-3552250780758811512015-04-07T17:52:39.270-07:002015-04-07T17:52:39.270-07:00All of Meredith's kids are alcoholics.
Not t...All of Meredith's kids are alcoholics. <br /><br />Not that I blame them. If he were my father I'd probably be on heroin by now. What a nightmare their childhoods must have been!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-26869393494014914922015-04-07T17:51:53.324-07:002015-04-07T17:51:53.324-07:00The people that follow these fools and charlatans ...The people that follow these fools and charlatans must believe that somewhere there is a companion book for the Bible, containing all of the bloopers and outtakes of the patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. That is the only possible explanation as to why principled individuals of reasonable intelligence would allow their teachers to get away with all of the things they do! The entire Armstrong movement consists of bloopers and outtakes! It would almost be comical if so many people had not suffered permanent damage and disillusionment. A pox on these "leaders", and on their houses!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-8414243889789561742015-04-07T17:50:25.991-07:002015-04-07T17:50:25.991-07:00None of Bob League's children came to his fune...None of Bob League's children came to his funeral.<br /><br />Man of God? I don't think so!<br /><br />Tyrannical soldier willing to execute any and all orders from the Liar in Chief? Absolutely! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-75875947889999005722015-04-07T17:48:01.189-07:002015-04-07T17:48:01.189-07:00This post is 100% true and nicely written.
To ans...This post is 100% true and nicely written.<br /><br />To answer your final question, many in LCG are starting to wake up. It's discussed in secret by small groups of friends who fear of being discovered by the Thought Police. <br /><br />The divide between the ra-ra LCG cheerleaders and the members who are capable of objective thought is growing wider by the day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-26611135424875032392015-04-07T17:40:09.810-07:002015-04-07T17:40:09.810-07:00Love, fairness and equity DO NOT EXIST IN LCG and ...Love, fairness and equity DO NOT EXIST IN LCG and they are not in any way a priority.<br /><br />Only one thing matters... blind obedience. They preach that if you don't obey LCG ministry your salvation is at risk. They preach that if you don't submit to LCG you are not in the body of Christ and that you won't be part of His bride when he returns to earth. They preach that if you don't fully agree with every word spoken from LCG leadership you will suffer the tribulation and not make it to the 1st resurrection. They preach that they are your intercessor to Christ and that without them you will fall away from "the truth" and won't make it to the place of safety. Fear, fear and more fear is what they rule their members with.<br /><br />They say they follow the whole Bible but they totally ignore almost every word spoken by Christ. Even if they acknowledge the words, on rare occasions, they most certainly do not put them into action. <br /><br />This manual is a sad joke.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-79685821822374169752015-04-07T14:58:40.690-07:002015-04-07T14:58:40.690-07:00I spent 10 years teaching in a Methodist church (a...I spent 10 years teaching in a Methodist church (after I left WCG). They have many of the same problems. They are supposed to be guided by the Book of Discipline. But, once a pastor is assigned, he can do what he wants, the way he wants and the denomination will usually side with the pastor in any conflict. They seem more concerned in protecting their careers than caring for the sheep. So the WCG, COG, etc. are not unique, though more toxic than some mainstream churches. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-37500748320605538622015-04-07T14:51:18.153-07:002015-04-07T14:51:18.153-07:00You know what it is?
There used to be a little old...You know what it is?<br />There used to be a little old widow in Missouri who had a million or so and a lot of land and no heirs. <br />A minister on the telecast who was stationed in Mo at the time used to "take care of her". And also when they would get short on cash squeeze her for a little of her money.<br />She gave Dr. Meredith a 50,000.00 dollar check at the feast one time.<br />And right after that he gave himself and the top men at HQ raises. I believe he was making 140,000, Ames got 130,000, and Winnail got 120,000 a year. Because they looked at all the other corporate leaders in the country and thought they should make what they were making. <br />I heard she died about a year or so ago and left her estate to LCG. Though I heard that her estate is being contested by her nieces and nephews.<br />So now his cash cow is gone and he was looking for another one, because he was used to getting that money. And the only one he knew that is suppose to have that kind of money was.... so therefore he had to get them to submit to him so he could get his hands on their money. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com