tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post488441878717539763..comments2024-03-18T22:20:48.943-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Cal Culpepper and the Philadelphia Church of God Screw Over Another Widow Taking Her Money Then Casting Her AsideNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-85388588779499414812015-02-04T08:34:12.877-08:002015-02-04T08:34:12.877-08:00RSK, I empathize with you. Joyce Meyer is a total ...RSK, I empathize with you. Joyce Meyer is a total con artist, yet effective in selling her con and raking her dupes for untraceable and nonreturnable millions of dollars. <br />It's good that you were able to take control and put the brakes on it. Too many have been taken in by her, giving every last dollar to what they thought was the best cause imaginable.<br /><br />She's one of the nastiest ladies inhabiting the Mainstream Christian landscape.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-15222257299541121182015-02-03T08:33:47.595-08:002015-02-03T08:33:47.595-08:00Yes, when my mother's semi-erratic behavior st...Yes, when my mother's semi-erratic behavior started ramping up and I took control, I found she had donated huge sums to Joyce Meyer that she'll never get back. Enrages me... but nothing to be done for it now. RSKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-12990828856902376792015-02-03T03:50:04.537-08:002015-02-03T03:50:04.537-08:00Even if you believe the bible is divinely inspired...Even if you believe the bible is divinely inspired, the Sabbath, holy days, tithing ect.. was given exclusively to the Isrealites and not to the gentiles.<br /><br />I am shocked at how many mainstream churches push the sheep to tithe when it was clearly not a Christians responsibility to do so.<br /><br />How many elderly are abused by mainstream ministers that con them out of large sums of money that they need to live off of.<br /><br />This is much more wide-spread then just the COG's.Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-36839766725160182332015-02-02T17:22:20.481-08:002015-02-02T17:22:20.481-08:00Laws define what a society has established over ti...Laws define what a society has established over time to be equitable (not abusive) "boundaries" between individuals literal and fictitious. Though I'm not sure what the best legal angle is, if the ACOG cults are abusive in a financial sense, which they are, then there should be by now at least one point of law which a good case can be made that they stand in violation.<br /><br />It would be awesome to see a class action suit against the ACOGs for their tithing doctrines/pressure for bequests. It would be a long shot against a "church", but sometimes long shots pan out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-83174909942286949482015-02-02T16:58:27.239-08:002015-02-02T16:58:27.239-08:00"Satan got to the person."
Yes, indeed...<br /><i>"Satan got to the person."</i><br /><br /><br />Yes, indeed, Satan got to the person. No doubt about that. Satan got to <i>everyone</i> in the PCG. That is <i>why</i> they are <i>in</i> the PCG. If Satan had not got to them, they would not be in his PCG.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-69918691791900244002015-02-02T15:30:40.900-08:002015-02-02T15:30:40.900-08:00Relationships are built on mutual trust. Surely, ...Relationships are built on mutual trust. Surely, we've all seen skits from seminars in which people, as part of the role playing exercises are encouraged to pair off, close their eyes, and fall backwards as their partner catches them.<br /><br />The people who have given their all to their ACOG have already demonstrated their trustworthiness, done their part of the role playing by "catching" their financially falling church. The problem is, when there comes a time when these donors need for their church to "catch" them, the church proves to be totally unreliable. They cannot be trusted to fulfill their part of the equation.<br /><br />Because of the history of these things, and they had their roots in old school WCG, because that's where the example came from, people who are considering giving large sums of money to an ACOG should make it a loan, and should have the papers for this loan carefully and explicitly drawn up by an attorney of their own choosing. They should fully expect exercising their right to legal counsel to be met with the hostility of their local minister and fake apostle or fake prophet. Those people don't want loans, or any sense of honor, they want gifts with no strings attached, and will shame and threaten members in any way possible to get that. When this happens, members should realize that they are dealing with dishonorable, money-grubbing cretins, and should search for more deserving recipients of their resources. That would be being a good steward!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-43418484437820320372015-02-02T15:30:35.717-08:002015-02-02T15:30:35.717-08:00It is time to contact Paul Morantz.
From the fron...It is time to contact Paul Morantz.<br /><br />From the front page of the Painful Truth:<br /><br />Need legal help?<br /><br />'Paul Morantz is an American attorney at law specializing in the prosecution of fanatical cults, religious or otherwise, and their leaders for harmful conduct. Specializing in the prosecution of those whose victims suffer through the undue influence of coercive persuasion.'<br />http://www.paulmorantz.com/<br /><br /><br />This is undue influence. The PCG needs to return the money to this poor women.Jameshttp://hwarmstrong.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-82385357775799811962015-02-02T15:23:34.714-08:002015-02-02T15:23:34.714-08:00I got the feeling towards the end right before I w...I got the feeling towards the end right before I was disfellowshipped in Feb. 2012 that Brian Davis and his brother-in-law Andrew Hessong (Uncle Andy) were jealous that I had inherited land and several houses. Those creeps don't want, (especially) women, to have anything.This is exactly what those abusive ministers will end up with in the end...NOTHING!!<br /><br />To Brain D. and Uncle Andy...<br />lalalalala, I have more than you do. hahahaha!old EXPCG haghttps://plus.google.com/u/0/113084575537501184298/posts/p/pubnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-5483378439121909442015-02-02T14:22:35.211-08:002015-02-02T14:22:35.211-08:00From the linked story it appears that daughter &am...From the linked story it appears that daughter & son are also hooked (in UCG) and son's house burned down due to old defective wiring (sounds like a familiar COG story)(well there's somewhere they could have spent some of the family fortune instead of giving it to GF!)<br /><br />It also says the mother <b>voluntarily</b> handed off most of the fortune to GF after true believer husband died. Then daughter says "why don't you ask for it back so you can prove you are a good steward?"<br /><br />Well, she's already proven she was not good with money. Must have been a large amount, maybe half a mil - would keep HWA Auditorium running for a few months, subsidizing the Performing Arts for Oklahoma's wealthy.Minimalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07394978086891772878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-66577714317209771382015-02-02T12:11:55.184-08:002015-02-02T12:11:55.184-08:00This is merely a small sample of what it would be ...This is merely a small sample of what it would be like in a 'Kingdom of God' if Armstrongists were allowed to run it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-78890082341956428632015-02-02T12:08:44.052-08:002015-02-02T12:08:44.052-08:00Luke 12:45 is being fulfilled; what puzzles me is ...Luke 12:45 is being fulfilled; what puzzles me is that many in the cogs out of a blind sense of loyalty and faith continue to tolerate this kind of abuse; indeed people are sheeple; may God be merciful and reward her for what she has had to endure...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-87234779363567219462015-02-02T12:04:27.226-08:002015-02-02T12:04:27.226-08:00I don't even know what to say. I don't kno...I don't even know what to say. I don't know if I'm angrier at the ministry for being so cruel or the members for putting up with it and calling it godly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com