tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post4887306943143444787..comments2024-03-29T05:22:27.348-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Dave Pack: "...he truly fears for those who are sitting on assets but just can't quite "pull the trigger and reach into their wallet." NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-81319013781447000192017-07-26T13:59:24.469-07:002017-07-26T13:59:24.469-07:00As nice as it sounds to share something of rod mer...As nice as it sounds to share something of rod meredith personal belongings with the brethren it is also rather unsettling and has the whiff of idolatry. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-76044168715092310332017-07-17T08:54:52.687-07:002017-07-17T08:54:52.687-07:00@ 3:47
There is a house in Edmond
They call the H...@ 3:47<br /><br />There is a house in Edmond<br />They call the House of God<br />It's been the ruin of many a tithin' man<br />And God, I once was one.<br /><br />Oh, Mother, tell your children<br />Not to do something so odd.<br />You should spend your money on family and fun<br />Not on the House of God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-21273402197135834222017-07-17T03:47:39.337-07:002017-07-17T03:47:39.337-07:00When the Music's over,
The Utility will...
Tur...When the Music's over,<br />The Utility will...<br />Turn out the lights<br />When the music's over<br />When the music's over, yeah<br />When the music's over<br />Turn out the lights<br />Turn out the lights..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-57342064416259822692017-07-16T13:38:12.543-07:002017-07-16T13:38:12.543-07:00Can anyone think of any factor which would cause m...<i>Can anyone think of any factor which would cause massive numbers of people to turn or return specifically to Armstrongism?</i><br /><br />Only in an <i>Idiocracy</i> world could Armstrongism restore its past losses and flourish again. <i>Ow, My Tribulation!</i> might scare truly stupid people who don't know how to search the Internet and find out the history of Armstrongist prophetic failure. <br /><br />Seriously, who would want to become part of an ACOG today? You probably discovered your ACOG because you were avidly interested in learning the truth, but once you find your ACOG your avid desire to learn more will be crushed, and you will be told that the truth is in your group's booklets <b>but not in the booklets of that bad, bad group over there.</b> ACOG ministers have perfected the art of infantilizing long-time members and their born-into-the-faith descendants, but those techniques simply do not work on thoughtful new recruits. <br /><br />Furthermore, let's remember that during the "boom years" of Armstrongism, it wasn't easy to find HWA's infamous 1934 Plain Truth in which he wrote of pyramid inches and of Mussolini as the end-time Beast ushering in the Tribulation before 1940. Today, thanks to the Internet, anyone can see that HWA reinvented himself a couple of times in his earliest years before settling on the formula that carried him from the late 1940s through 1975. If you know all of this but still choose to sign up with an ACOG, there's not much hope for you. Fortunately, very few people do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-57717482371627171682017-07-16T12:05:13.690-07:002017-07-16T12:05:13.690-07:00In biology, an organism which ceases to grow is by...In biology, an organism which ceases to grow is by definition dying. All of the plausible factors which caused Armstrongism to grow during its prime are no longer present, and show no signs of returning. Some have even become irrevocably and ignominiously debunked.<br /><br />Can anyone think of any factor which would cause massive numbers of people to turn or return specifically to Armstrongism? In the coming decades, people may gradually be convinced to minimize their carbon-footprints, or to hoard gold or survivalist foods, but disasters in recent history have proven that while they may return to their own church of choice, they do not stream into the Armstrong churches (how do you even find them or get through the screening processes?) in massive numbers. What credible solution does Armstrongism have to offer, that is not available through other channels? What evidence currently observable in any of these groups would support supernatural protection for the members?<br /><br />HWA claimed to have preached the gospel of Jesus Christ around the world, to have fulfilled the great commission. Yet others have preached the gospel around the world. Dr. Gene Scott's network reached many more people in remote places around the world than HWA could have ever hoped to reach, and Dr. Scott's message was available 24-7. Plus, he never equivocated or wussed out, disguising it as a gospel about trade or a strong hand from somewhere. <br /><br />BB<br /><br />Byker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-36221435435647624672017-07-16T08:34:53.898-07:002017-07-16T08:34:53.898-07:00Even before the Magnificent campus is completed..
...<br />Even before the <i>Magnificent</i> campus is completed..<br />Are they now at the threshold of <i>Disintegration</i>?!<br /><br /><b>The End</b> <br />"This is the end, beautiful friend<br />This is the end, my only friend, the end<br />Of our elaborate plans, the end<br />Of everything that stands, the end<br />No safety or surprise, the end..<br /><br />Desperately in need, of some, stranger's hand<br />In a, desperate land<br />Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain<br />And all the children are insane, all the children are insane<br />Waiting for the summer rain, yeah<br />There's danger on the edge of town<br />Ride the King's highway, baby<br />Weird scenes inside the gold mine.."<br />Minimalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07394978086891772878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-23516171239847181812017-07-16T08:14:05.368-07:002017-07-16T08:14:05.368-07:00I am amazed that Dave is still around walking on t...I am amazed that Dave is still around walking on two feet.<br /><br />I figured that by now someone in his tiny group would have gone postal and sent him off to await the resurrection, but Yahweh must be waiting to see how long it is going to take for his disturbed flock to wake up.Sweetblood777https://www.blogger.com/profile/11000268749016977800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-36750928355959384462017-07-16T07:34:33.785-07:002017-07-16T07:34:33.785-07:00Dave Pack's days as the amazing person he perc...Dave Pack's days as the amazing person he perceives himself to be are numbered. You can't send it all in two or three more times. Those who were skeptical, cautious and using common sense, even if they stayed in RCG did not put all their eggs, nor will they, into Dave's basket. <br /><br />Dave's delusional theology will come unglued soon and the panic of karma on the horizon will push him on to greater foolishness hastening his irrelevance, as if he were relevant now. <br /><br />He will prove to be, yet again, a cautionary tale on personality disorders in ministry and just how far they can go in expressing themselves all for nothing and to no avail save for the people involved who will learn the lesson like no others can. <br /><br />This foolish theology of Dave Pack and the brain dead ministry he generally hides from the public will implode soon. <br /><br />"...and no brethren, I am not a prophet" just confident of seeing the end from the beginning of this one.DennisCDiehlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10417850852638492246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-88081752500770527762017-07-16T05:22:27.942-07:002017-07-16T05:22:27.942-07:00Thiel will try to get a proper bookshelf and curta...Thiel will try to get a proper bookshelf and curtains from Rods house.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-8641455331230506102017-07-15T18:39:54.845-07:002017-07-15T18:39:54.845-07:00Did he have any vintage vehicles or motorcycles? ...Did he have any vintage vehicles or motorcycles? Firearms? Modern art or furniture? Electric guitars and amps, collection of rock and blues CD's? No? Oh well. Just cancelled my flight.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-64522698888719190292017-07-15T18:29:15.453-07:002017-07-15T18:29:15.453-07:00Thiel will be stopping by the Meredith house for ...Thiel will be stopping by the Meredith house for a pickup. He hopes there are some shoes still around. That way he can claim "I am walking in Rod Meredith's shoes" ! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910856904624749641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-48320388595086631112017-07-15T17:47:56.112-07:002017-07-15T17:47:56.112-07:00@ 11:40AM
For anyone who wants to stop by, the Me...@ 11:40AM<br /><br />For anyone who wants to stop by, the Meredith home will be open from 9:00 a.m. through 4:00 p.m. on Sunday, July 16.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-27405204088140779442017-07-15T12:42:25.166-07:002017-07-15T12:42:25.166-07:00And Jesus said unto them, give back to ceasar what...And Jesus said unto them, give back to ceasar what is Caesars, and give back to God what is God's.<br />By their fruits you shall know them.<br />If you love God you keep his commandments not to kill, not to give false witness, not to commit adultry, to honor your parents...not David packs bottomless pit mammon demands.<br />It is incredible that in these days Dave Pack makes more outrageous demanding requests on brethrens money than hwa ever did. Planting troubling seeds in married women's minds by openly discussing how half their assets belong to them. <br />Will Dave Pack sell all his assets? will Dave Pack give all that he owns ? Will Dave Pack go without ? No never.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-31178823438884432152017-07-15T11:40:13.196-07:002017-07-15T11:40:13.196-07:00Just see the contrast between the groups. Tomorro...Just see the contrast between the groups. Tomorrow, July 15, the Meredith family will be opening up Dr. Meredith's house, offering to the brethren any miscellaneous items not claimed by family members.<br /><br />The address is 5310 Addington Court, Charlotte, NC 28277<br /><br />Remaining items include: decorative knick-knacks and dishes, furniture, pictures, lots of books and clothes, and other miscellaneous items. Anything still in the house by the end of the day Sunday will be given to Goodwill. <br /><br />Would Dave Pack dream of doing something like this? <br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-1830608272818212142017-07-15T10:31:34.287-07:002017-07-15T10:31:34.287-07:00Does anyone know about Pack's supposed heart c...Does anyone know about Pack's supposed heart condition, mentioned on Exit and Support?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-56331288672234205282017-07-15T08:25:00.585-07:002017-07-15T08:25:00.585-07:00Illinois, make recordings for me, they will get po...Illinois, make recordings for me, they will get posted.Assistant Coffee Makernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-23957031321966654072017-07-15T08:16:45.684-07:002017-07-15T08:16:45.684-07:00Biker Bob has inspired me! Here was a hit song fr...Biker Bob has inspired me! Here was a hit song from back in the 70s called SIGNS by the Five Man Electrical Band , that certainly applies ...<br /><br /><br />And the sign said, "Everybody welcome. Come in, kneel down and pray"<br />But when they passed around the plate at the end of it all, I didn't have a<br />penny to pay<br />So I got me a pen and a paper and I made up my own little sign<br />I said, "Thank you, Lord, for thinkin' 'bout me. I'm alive and doin' fine."<br />Wooo!<br /><br />Sign, sign, everywhere a sign<br />Blockin' out the scenery, breakin' my mind<br />Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910856904624749641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-75252889248460090072017-07-15T07:48:48.215-07:002017-07-15T07:48:48.215-07:00Illinois Anonymous said...
I attend A RCG congrega... Illinois Anonymous said...<br />I attend A RCG congregation and I can tell you that most of us don't actually trust David Pack. The only reason I attend this farce is because my my is hooked into this shit!<br /><br />Please get out while you can Illinois. Why keep funding Pack's empire when you know it is not going well there? I also left RCG and am much happier now. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-43875799721651217932017-07-15T06:45:00.329-07:002017-07-15T06:45:00.329-07:00I hope "Escaped" doesn't think that ...I hope "Escaped" doesn't think that the Church is like that....they weren't involved in the Church, they were involved in Dave Pack's organization.<br /><br />If the main office of my group ever tried to put me on a guilt trip over the amount I gave, I'd be gone in a heartbeat, but they are not like that. They appreciate anything anyone can give. I have never heard any minister imply that anyone is not giving enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-88308910063797191362017-07-15T06:36:40.242-07:002017-07-15T06:36:40.242-07:00Don Conard is very wealthy. But, he is smart, and...Don Conard is very wealthy. But, he is smart, and like others in RCG with unconverted wives, he put most things in her name. However, if he was really smart, he would not be involved with this group. He must not be getting salvation, according to Dave. <br /><br />There are still people in RCG who have not given all. I wonder why they stay? If they truly believe what Dave is teaching, they would give everything (Mercedes included) to Pack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-41311218386832639142017-07-15T06:27:39.359-07:002017-07-15T06:27:39.359-07:00Mr. Pack is correct, the end is near. The banks wa...Mr. Pack is correct, the end is near. The banks want their money now!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-37752974562912745842017-07-15T05:51:19.214-07:002017-07-15T05:51:19.214-07:00Anyone got the map coordinates for RCG employee Do...Anyone got the map coordinates for RCG employee Don Conard's lakeside mansion? Would love to see how those on secret RCG salaries live!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-70221509536944649942017-07-15T05:10:12.004-07:002017-07-15T05:10:12.004-07:00Not only does the wolf Dave Packatolla sounds desp...Not only does the wolf Dave Packatolla sounds desperate for money, he also displays a criminal mentality - the brethren's assets are his entitlement for the taking. He displays some of the works of the flesh coveting and lusting after the fruits of other peoples' life labors. Makes me wonder about the terms of his bank loan he obtained to fund his "white elephant" campus. Perhaps Dave is close to missing a payment and therefore the desperation. Glad the writer woke up to the fraud before he/she got too hurt by the experience. <br /><br />Why does it take 75 plus sermons for Dave to explain the knowledge of Daniel's unsealed book? Is it really that complicated? If it were "of God", somehow I don't think God would make it so complicated that it takes 75 plus sermons to explain, IMHO.<br /><br />RichardLake of Fire Church of Godnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-63192584708088587942017-07-15T04:20:27.133-07:002017-07-15T04:20:27.133-07:00I attend A RCG congregation and I can tell you tha...I attend A RCG congregation and I can tell you that most of us don't actually trust David Pack. The only reason I attend this farce is because my my is hooked into this shit!Illinois Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-23931659421350004502017-07-15T00:17:48.713-07:002017-07-15T00:17:48.713-07:00"Preacher man talking on TV, puttin' down..."Preacher man talking on TV, puttin' down the rock n roll<br />Wants me to send a donation, cause he's worried about my soul<br />He said "Jesus walked on the water", and I know that it's true<br />But sometimes I think that preacher man, would like to do a little walkin' too.<br /><br />But, I ain't askin' nobody for nothin'<br />If I can't get it on my own<br />If you don't like the way I'm livin'<br />You just leave this long haired country boy alone."<br /><br />Charlie Daniels, 1975<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.com