tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post4931413826772824417..comments2024-03-28T16:56:12.881-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: We Have No Scruples But They Have Lots of Rainbows, Lollipops and Cotton CandyNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-46777710115884078212016-02-17T00:09:03.514-08:002016-02-17T00:09:03.514-08:00In response to the "...even children..."...In response to the "...even children..." comment, I'd posit that the satirical palettes of people like George Orwell, Samuel Clemens, Geoffrey Chaucer, Plato and Jonathan Swift- to name but a few- are too advanced for younger citizens' sense of appreciation.<br /><br />I remember around 1978 (maybe 1977 or 1979) one of the activities at our Feast site was watching the animated movie Animal Farm.<br /><br />(The years before we had Fiddler on the Roof and of course The Sting (pasadena located))<br />Animal Farm sticks out to me. All adults seemed quite amused. And most children liked the colorful animals.<br /><br />nckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-14808859668987383662016-02-15T19:46:53.240-08:002016-02-15T19:46:53.240-08:00Anonymous at 8.42 said, "I don't believe ... Anonymous at 8.42 said, "I don't believe that even children confuse anger with humour. And that's any type of humour ."<br /><br />Well, at least when it comes to politics and religion, I can think of examples where that's not true. When it comes to those subjects, people can be extremely invested in a belief, and interpret a humorous lampooning as hatred.<br />(Especially when the holder of the belief believes himself to be in a special category of humans who are saving the world or have an inside track to a deity via their special knowledge or faith.)<br /><br />I thought the episodes of South Park that skewered Mormonism and Scientology were absolutely hilarious, yet members of those religions considered those episodes to be hateful. Scientologist Isaac Hayes, who gave voice to the 'Chef' character, even quit the show in protest.<br /><br />Similarly, I've found The Colbert Report and The Daily Show to be hilarious, while many on the right wing of the political spectrum deem those shows to be hateful.<br /><br />In response to the "...even children..." comment, I'd posit that the satirical palettes of people like George Orwell, Samuel Clemens, Geoffrey Chaucer, Plato and Jonathan Swift- to name but a few- are too advanced for younger citizens' sense of appreciation.<br /><br />The beauty of humor is in the ears of the beholder.<br /><br />But heck, if a religious person is especially touchy about humorous criticism, they usually have the 'Linus blanket' of 'knowing' the Offensive Ones shall be cast into Gehenna fire by the deity. <br />(Or, just strap on a bomb and kill the Offensive Ones proactively in a holy suicide mission.)<br />LOL!<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-45102642040988093122016-02-15T05:32:49.948-08:002016-02-15T05:32:49.948-08:008.42 I don't believe that even children confu...8.42 I don't believe that even children confuse anger with humour. And that's any type of humour .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-23431272254150072372016-02-13T23:19:31.526-08:002016-02-13T23:19:31.526-08:00BB,
For those that are not so technically incline...BB,<br /><br />For those that are not so technically inclined. <br />Taping dead shrimp at the lower end of the curtains would create additional effects.<br />This could also serve as an additional bonus during a divorce and the wife is likely to get the house...<br /><br />nck<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-33473288419733980872016-02-13T18:03:50.869-08:002016-02-13T18:03:50.869-08:00I wish I could work as a temp at Dave's admin ...I wish I could work as a temp at Dave's admin building for a couple days. I'd disconnect his heating and air conditioning duct work, and reroute the duct from the exhaust fan in the men's room into Dave's office in its place. If past experience with this type of payback is any guide, it would take months before they discovered the source of the noxious odors! It would be a really appropriate environment for Dave to have to work in.<br /><br />Note: this is intended only for humor. Don't try it at home (unless you wear gloves to avoid leaving finger prints!)<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-92031624213672943302016-02-13T08:42:41.649-08:002016-02-13T08:42:41.649-08:00Some not very bright people confuse anger with a v...Some not very bright people confuse anger with a vicious sense of humor.<br /><br />It's hilarious to see such childish reactions.<br /><br />Dr. Neil Degrasse Tyson in an episode of the reboot of Cosmos gave the disturbing story of how the world was being poisoned by lead (because of corporate greed). It turns out that when lead gets into the brain, it displaces other elements and blocks signals between the neurons. People thus poisoned have lower IQs and may have anger issues.<br /><br />One wonders whether working on a linotype machine for a long time with all the vapor from all those hot lead slugs may be an explanation for some of what we've seen here....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-44365629811486718362016-02-13T02:19:36.796-08:002016-02-13T02:19:36.796-08:00Minimalist...8:09...Did I mention that it is you t...Minimalist...8:09...Did I mention that it is you that comes across as a moron, instead of judging, criticizing, and slamming others, tell us what You are talking about and why instead of putting someone in a bad light with no explaination.Chucklesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-6394508330650115692016-02-12T18:40:20.439-08:002016-02-12T18:40:20.439-08:00Dixon Cartwright, the reason people here use Anony...Dixon Cartwright, the reason people here use Anonymous, is for our safety. People warm up to those who tell them lies and distortions, but hate those who speak the truth. I started putting comments on the web many years ago using Anonymous. Former church members discerned who I was. The result? Demonic verbal rages from my neighbour (people gossip) and relatives. These were attempts on my life. You by contrast, could probably put your home address and phone number here, and still be safe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-19140344375959292062016-02-12T15:12:01.527-08:002016-02-12T15:12:01.527-08:00To Anonymous, Anonymous and Anonymous: Maybe you&#...To Anonymous, Anonymous and Anonymous: Maybe you're right about my bones showing through my skin. Sorry. How would I compare B.O. Dougie with Jan Aaron Young? Jan is more polite than Dougie. By the way, don't you guys have names? Thank you for your time. P.S.: Who's Your Daddy?, B.B.: Could you send me a draft of your cartoon idea for me to consider? I'd have to see it before accepting your $10,000. --Dixon CartwrightDCJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03181310194367951914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-6613201554180185002016-02-12T12:34:00.173-08:002016-02-12T12:34:00.173-08:0010:52~ there is pro-HWA gospel mold anger, and th...10:52~ there is pro-HWA gospel mold anger, and there is anti-HWA gospel mold anger and vitriol. You are allowed freedom of expression in pro-Armstrong sites if you are playing to the choir, but not if you attempt to take them to task, to challenge the basic cruddy belief system, or to hold them accountable in any way.<br /><br />As an example, if someone did a comic strip called "Who's Your Daddy?" featuring Herbie and Dottie, it would be rejected even if you were willing to pay $10,000 for the ad. <br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-25762539800966795362016-02-12T10:52:11.603-08:002016-02-12T10:52:11.603-08:00Dixon wrote: "I had no problem helping hi...Dixon wrote: "I had no problem helping him to proclaim his unhappiness with COG folks and their opinions. My problem was the hateful and tantrum-throwing way he says everything, including and especially the uncontrollable rage he radiated in his ad."<br /><br />Yes, he does have anger at times, but what about Jan Young and his vitriol that you fill your pages up with every month. He is just as obnoxious or worse. I don't see any of his advertisements disappearing anytime soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-44277393755084380522016-02-12T09:45:40.611-08:002016-02-12T09:45:40.611-08:00Ian is one of the harder-core CGI ministers. Ian is one of the harder-core CGI ministers. Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-86496116197468888442016-02-12T08:12:01.682-08:002016-02-12T08:12:01.682-08:00A comment to me as a Freshman by Ronald Dart in Br...A comment to me as a Freshman by Ronald Dart in Bricket Wood in 1968. "Don't ask me for help. I don't do helping others". I was truly shocked by his attitude. Lording it over the students and refusing to lift a finger to help others. Such an oppressive Dean of Students treating people with degrees like they were nine year olds. When he left for Pasadena in '69 the whole atmosphere on campus changed for the better. Most people felt "Good riddance you oppressor!".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-52510803698531249382016-02-12T08:09:43.900-08:002016-02-12T08:09:43.900-08:00Did I mention that Ron Dart was a fundamentalist M...Did I mention that <b>Ron Dart</b> was a fundamentalist <b>Moron</b>.Minimalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07394978086891772878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-79847316501483605862016-02-12T06:14:39.443-08:002016-02-12T06:14:39.443-08:00I'm happy any time this site is mentioned. I w...I'm happy any time this site is mentioned. I was blind but now I see. The more ACOG people that visit this site, the better. There's no such thing as bad public for Banned. It all leads to increased traffic which might help others who are in blind submission to tyrants like Meredith start to wake up to the facts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-34486187458308715682016-02-12T06:07:09.945-08:002016-02-12T06:07:09.945-08:0012.42 AM. Have you read the scriptures you mentio...12.42 AM. Have you read the scriptures you mentioned? Deuteronomy 26;12 tells us that only part of the 3rd tithe goes to the Levites.<br /><br />Deu 26:12 Every year you are to give ten percent of your harvest to the LORD. But every third year, this ten percent must be given to the poor who live in your town, including Levites, foreigners, orphans, and widows. That way, they will have enough to eat. <br /><br />According to your Nunbers verse, the Levites got 2% (a tithe by definition is 3%) of the spoils the battle mentioned. There is no mention of a third tithe here.<br /> <br />Numbers 31:30 From the half that belongs to the people, set aside one out of every fifty and give these to the Levites in charge of the sacred tent. <br /><br />Are you a minster? Is that you Dave? Not forgetting, the church members are expected to third tithe gross of their income, meaning before taking deductions for expenses, taxes, or the like.<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-14020985466080420512016-02-12T05:51:54.068-08:002016-02-12T05:51:54.068-08:00Toby,
I take issue with the word "never"...Toby,<br />I take issue with the word "never".<br />I was there when it was announced. Because of the European social system they had brought before Mr Armstrong that the required 3rd tithe was to be abolished. On the sabbath after his passing it was announced that hwa aknowledged this. And I agree that this was a formalization of earlier thought in the mid seventies. Judging from other comments here it was the first decision of the coup d etat perpetrators. But I'm not sure 'cause as Toby confirms hwa had already acknowledged the "social" instead of "religious" nature of the third tithe system earlier.<br /><br />nck Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-21534386200861961952016-02-12T05:36:20.112-08:002016-02-12T05:36:20.112-08:00Bravo! I agree with the above comment. This is t...Bravo! I agree with the above comment. This is the best post so far. It's time the COG stopped pandering to the kookiness of the Journal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-4814053373835445242016-02-12T05:27:46.199-08:002016-02-12T05:27:46.199-08:00One can search high and low on the subject of tith...One can search high and low on the subject of tithing and still only find that there was only one tithe, yet had three purposes. Tithes were set aside and taken to one of the three pilgrim feasts where the tither ate from the tithe and then gave what was left of it,to the Levites.<br /><br />In the third tithe year, the tither did not go to the feasts, but instead they gave their tithe to the poor and the Levites. <br /><br />The entire purpose of tithes in the first place had to do with the Levitical system. It was the taxation of the day until the day that a king was insisted upon, that also insisted for a tithe for himself.<br /><br />Tithes were never collected in the assemblies of Yahshua. True ministers of Yahshua were to walk in faith and depend on Elohim for their support. Over time greedy men crept in and instituted a tithe for themselves and thus church business was born.<br /><br />Now years later, we have hirelings with big fancy houses and fast foreign cars, who are living the abundant life, while their tithe slaves barely survive pay check to pay check.Sweetblood777https://www.blogger.com/profile/11000268749016977800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-70752363672650770382016-02-12T04:17:01.778-08:002016-02-12T04:17:01.778-08:00nck said "Because this was announced in the s...nck said "Because this was announced in the same announcements his passing was announced"<br />It was possibly mentioned then but he actually said it in the mid 70s, later many in the ministry tried to cover that up and never repeated it.<br />tobyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-43734788893913907312016-02-12T00:56:38.497-08:002016-02-12T00:56:38.497-08:00Nck a death bed repentance smells of a lawyers tr...Nck a death bed repentance smells of a lawyers trick. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-11875685596278942082016-02-12T00:42:35.399-08:002016-02-12T00:42:35.399-08:00Deuteronomy 26:12: tithes in the 3rd year were giv...Deuteronomy 26:12: tithes in the 3rd year were given to the Levites who were about 2% of the population: Numbers 31:30. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-70103285316258070682016-02-11T23:18:13.465-08:002016-02-11T23:18:13.465-08:00HWA last ruling for all the European churches was ...HWA last ruling for all the European churches was the abolishment of 3rd tithe for Europe's excessive social system and taxing accordingly (sometimes exceeding 60 70 percent) . Because this was announced in the same announcements his passing was announced I was never completely sure if it in reality was the first Tkach ruling. I go with the last ruling of HWA.<br /><br />nckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-5851396603780023902016-02-11T20:57:03.233-08:002016-02-11T20:57:03.233-08:006:59 PM Third tithe was mainly for the orphans a... 6:59 PM Third tithe was mainly for the orphans and widows. The Levites already had the first tithe. People like Dave Pack and others still demand their followers pay third tithe to their church. I wouldn't mind hearing how they justify this. As I said, I find no mention of it in the NT. I know that whilst I was in the church, I would not have got one cent if I was hit by a truck and made a paraplegic. Yet I was paying third tithe. This was because of a Cain (the minister) versus Abel (me) attitude that the minister had toward me. Looking back, I feel robbed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-65395652459289903322016-02-11T20:00:59.583-08:002016-02-11T20:00:59.583-08:00Well that was certainly thoughtful and objective -...Well that was certainly thoughtful and objective - no emotionalism here!Miller Jones/Lonnie C Hendrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02865316200703641028noreply@blogger.com