tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post5071366522019260850..comments2024-03-28T05:59:44.118-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: David C Pack Cult Believes It Can Deny Salvation To Disabled Member Unless He Starts Giving More MoneyNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-91394358890645319852017-07-26T02:36:27.231-07:002017-07-26T02:36:27.231-07:00To anyone who is in or considering going to Dave P...To anyone who is in or considering going to Dave Packs Restored Church of God, please view these videos. They reveal Dave Pack to be the FALSE PROPHET he is and use his own words captured from his sermons to prove it. Please share them and get the word out. Thanks.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhSMyD58ryQ<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXZjxKew67AAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-8237698070760027982014-07-23T12:28:27.946-07:002014-07-23T12:28:27.946-07:00Davey Pack and so many other gurus claim that they...Davey Pack and so many other gurus claim that they have the "keys to the kingdom"<br /><br />Clearly, the locksmith businesses will be booming as all these twisted leaders die and find their keys don't twist in the locks.<br /><br />Chubby Checker will be taunting them from the "other side" of heaven's gate- doing The Twist!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-72895953565398843282014-07-21T07:21:47.626-07:002014-07-21T07:21:47.626-07:00The Pack properties will probably eventually go ba...The Pack properties will probably eventually go bankrupt and be sold to the Catholic Church, as happened to Robert Schuller's Crystal Cathedral recently.<br /><br />At that time, I'm sure Davey Pack will feel sad and jealous, since paedophilia was one of Mr. Armstrong's best strong points, but due to space constraints, acts of paedophilia will happen less often on Davey Pack's properties than they will at Crystal Cathedral.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-61858065731355128332014-07-20T08:27:09.709-07:002014-07-20T08:27:09.709-07:00For a long time I felt very sorry for the members ...For a long time I felt very sorry for the members of these churches. I had hoped that in time, they would see that they have been victimized by these sociopathic leaders. Now, when Pack claiming that he has the "keys to the kingdom" and can prevent someone from being saved, I think there is little hope for those who remain in these churches. How much abuse does someone have to see and experience before they walk away?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-55214485840249661162014-07-20T06:34:18.820-07:002014-07-20T06:34:18.820-07:00groveling not grumbling fr previous post
groveling not grumbling fr previous post<br />old EXPCG haghttps://plus.google.com/u/0/113084575537501184298/posts/p/pubnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-14353659263384042212014-07-20T06:14:50.524-07:002014-07-20T06:14:50.524-07:00OK, here's the deal:
If I'm disabled, the...OK, here's the deal:<br /><br />If I'm disabled, then David C. Pack can anoint me so I can be healed.<br /><br />After I have been healed by God using David C. Pack as a conduit for God's true healing power and my arms and legs have grown back and my body is completely restored, then, and only then, will I get a job and give a certain (income tax deductible) contribution to David C. Pack, assuming, of course, that the "healing" holds for more than a week or two.<br /><br />Otherwise, all bets are off and he can just take a flying leap.<br /><br />So all you winners out there who think Davey is The End Time Apostle / Prophet -- what do you think of that?<br /><br />If he can't get last year's prophecy right (an outright failure) then what are the chances he could heal anybody?<br /><br />You can just wallow in the cesspool of your own beliefs that you are winners because Davey Bad-Ass Nimrod is your champion winner. Delusion isn't going to get you anywhere though: You aren't going to be gods and you certainly aren't going to be winners.<br /><br />Pathetic.<br /><br />Losers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-42189395580672969392014-07-19T22:37:53.060-07:002014-07-19T22:37:53.060-07:00My Father, who has given them to me, is greater th...My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; NO MAN can snatch them out of my Father's hand.<br /> <br />-- John 10:29. <br /> <br />Read it and weep, Paki.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-23536221293810970692014-07-19T22:00:44.510-07:002014-07-19T22:00:44.510-07:00"Please note that the campus photos posted ea..."Please note that the campus photos posted each Friday have been reduced and will soon be phased out, as many site projects have come to completion. Periodic postings may return when additional stages of campus development get underway."<br /><br />LOOKS LIKE HIS MONEY HAS RAN OUT!<br />This was my favorite web destination every week!<br />Trouble is it was this the only Web Traffic he was getting:<br /> Voyeuristic Ghouls like us peeking in like Buzzards <br />waiting for this Grand Folly to go Belly-Up --<br /> like Schuller's Crystal Cathederal & Tkach's Palatial Pasadena Showpiece. <br /> <br />Minimalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07394978086891772878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-86100592823968387632014-07-19T21:03:29.818-07:002014-07-19T21:03:29.818-07:00"World Headquarters Building Updates
"..."World Headquarters Building Updates<br /><br /><br />"Ten images have been posted on the Headquarters Complex page.<br /><br />"Please note that the campus photos posted each Friday have been reduced and will soon be phased out, as many site projects have come to completion. Periodic postings may return when additional stages of campus development get underway."<br /><br />We did it!<br /> OUR BASHING HAS BOUGHT THIS PROPAGANDA TO A HALT!Minimalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07394978086891772878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-56146490290431975542014-07-19T20:27:47.337-07:002014-07-19T20:27:47.337-07:00The priests in a Magus-Church are more humane and ...The priests in a Magus-Church are more humane and compassionate than Septic Dave. Doesn't he worry about a millstone?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-4409976687770605022014-07-19T19:36:19.609-07:002014-07-19T19:36:19.609-07:00" But he is not bothered by what you say, he ..." But he is not bothered by what you say, he knows that it is Satan working trying to disrupt the work that Mr. Pack does as God's only true end time apostle."<br /><br />"We know that we don't have to give anything that we don't want to, but it is a privilege to give to RCG and the money is used wisely by God's steward."<br /><br />About as much a privilege as it is to get an ice water enema...<br /><br />OK, I wish I could take credit for that fine bit of anonymous sarcastic trolling, but it wasn't me...<br /><br />"Stop it. My sides hurt."<br /><br />Ronco<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-7367116900599223102014-07-19T19:36:09.401-07:002014-07-19T19:36:09.401-07:00Anon. at 7/19 3:15pm
Do you not read the bible?? ...Anon. at 7/19 3:15pm <br />Do you not read the bible?? Pack is a mocker, a devil denying the Savior, who is to be preached...He is the door..the way...the life..NOT ARMSTRONG or PACK...<br />John 6:29<br />Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. <br /> So, you must love Pack's sermons cursing other brethren...Having that kind of hate is as one who murders. He never preaches righteousness, salvation, sanctification, etc. "True Church" "God's Church" Not in the bible and one is still grafted in to a people of God above..Israel. We must worship in Spirit and in Truth..not a man made building with a man leading while we carry yokes...The lake of fire is prepared for men like Pack and HWA. God will have more mercy on these folks here who have been hurt by lies of Armstrongism a self righteous cult. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-87722432771976384632014-07-19T19:25:45.576-07:002014-07-19T19:25:45.576-07:00David Pack's theme song on Youtube!<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5xxSRvl5VM" rel="nofollow">David Pack's theme song on Youtube!</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-66924391459639044832014-07-19T19:00:06.843-07:002014-07-19T19:00:06.843-07:00Anonymous said...
"I often see the comments ...<br /><i>Anonymous said...<br /><br />"I often see the comments about how Mr. Pack is foolish or only in it for the money. But he is not bothered by what you say, he knows that it is Satan working trying to disrupt the work that Mr. Pack does as God's only true end time apostle. Why else would so many enemies attack one person as you do here. It only strengthens our resolve to continue to support the work and Mr. Pack who is more than just some average man, he is obviously given special strength and abilities from God, he is super natural and awesome. You will all see soon that everything he teaches will come true and he will be a ruler in the Kingdom of God, and you will listen then because it will be so obvious. We know that we don't have to give anything that we don't want to, but it is a privilege to give to RCG and the money is used wisely by God's steward. So just keep scoffing and telling your filthy lies, or just get over it and prepare for the punishment that God will soon bring upon you. It gives me peace to know that I am of the elect and will have a special place in the kingdom, I will pray for you, you need that." <br /><br />July 19, 2014 at 3:15 PM</i><br /> <br /><br /><br />People who fall for just anything can end up robbed, broken, and bitter. <br /><br />David Pack wants EVERYTHING that people have. You had better <i>WANT</i> to give it ALL. Have you not noticed that David Pack has started to write and talk about having “all things common”--which in his Restored Church actually means having all things become entirely his own? He does not distribute it to anyone as they have need. David Pack once shouted that, “If people don't tithe, they're gone!” Now, merely sending in tithes and offerings and building fund donations and doing continual fundraising are no longer enough. David Pack wants it ALL.<br /><br />It is too bad that God did not give David Pack special strength and ability to understand the biblical books of <i>Haggai</i> and <i>Zechariah</i> so that he would not have come up with wrong prophetic guesses in God's name like that August 30, 2013 guess—or, as some might call it, “filthy lie”--that he used to inspire people to send in more money.<br /><br />Being angry at others for pointing out the OBVIOUS LIES of David Pack will not help your own situation, so either get over it or else get prepared for your punishment. You could easily become one of the frustrated, angry, bitter, God-hating cynics at the <i>Banned By HWA</i> Blog if you are not more careful about who you follow or what you believe.<br /><br />You asked, “Why else would so many enemies attack one person as you do here?” Well, many other even stupider, self-appointed, false, religious leaders get mocked here too. I wish that David Pack had turned out to be a better man, but everything I have seen about him indicates that his mind is now going down the same path as other charismatic leaders who ended up destroying their followers. Like Adolf Hitler after he had destroyed Germany, David Pack might start to feel sorry for himself and begin to whine that the WCG-RCG people were not good enough, and were not worthy of him, and have let him down.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-66747442057524405502014-07-19T18:55:38.170-07:002014-07-19T18:55:38.170-07:00This is almost unbelievable. I certainly didn'...This is almost unbelievable. I certainly didn't keep at the floors all these years to give money to larcenous psychopaths like him. I wised up and don't give a red (or any other color) cent to bombastic psychopaths. <br /><br />The time comes when continuing to work is dangerous not only to the individual but to those around him or her. So far, I can still handle the wedding ceremonies, but trying to do floor work and carpet cleaning is getting a bit much. I'll never just sit down and do absolutely nothing until I absolutely have to, but that day came for my parents and probably will for me also.<br /><br />What scumbags these imposters are! Allen C. Dexterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06615706118359802452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-51537243086402120932014-07-19T18:41:26.817-07:002014-07-19T18:41:26.817-07:00I certainly didn't hold off on full retirement...I certainly didn't hold off on full retirement until I'm now almost 80 to give money to such despicable deceivers. It still remains that you get to the point where continuing is dangerous to you and maybe those around you, depending on the occupation. The ravages of age don't relent for anyone. You just do your best and adjust to natural realities. Such edicts are almost incomprehensible if you forget the character of the ones issuing them. They literally don't care about anybody. They're all psychopaths.Allen C. Dexterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06615706118359802452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-30426160770989215182014-07-19T17:59:02.363-07:002014-07-19T17:59:02.363-07:00Some people financially support churches that come...<br />Some people financially support churches that come up with nearby dates for the second coming of JC and the end of the age. When the end gets delayed by 52 years (the length of HWA's religious career) plus another 28 years (the time since HWA died in 1986), some people continue to get strung along--probably because a sucker is a sucker is a sucker. The original idea that the end is so very near that there is no time for anything else, combined with the church's anti-higher education teachings, leaves people working at low paying jobs into their old age. Some people expected to escape soon like in "freedom 55." But as time goes on, and their money has been given away to the church, and their houses—if they ever had one--have been remortgaged or sold so they could donate more to the church, and their retirement plans have been cashed out and taxed with what is left being sent in to the church, they have to continue working and looking forward to <i>maybe</i> "freedom 85." <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-61529437899099202452014-07-19T17:57:19.720-07:002014-07-19T17:57:19.720-07:00And while you are praying for me, ask him to send ...And while you are praying for me, ask him to send me a Dominos Pizza will ya. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-85553669418176457522014-07-19T17:43:16.295-07:002014-07-19T17:43:16.295-07:003:15-----Very nice, Bubba. But, personally, I bel...3:15-----Very nice, Bubba. But, personally, I believe that if David Pack and Herbert "Incest" Armstrong have anything to do with salvation, I'd choose to opt out thru TLoF. Being forced to spend all of eternity in the equivalent of WCG or an ACOG would not be salvation, it would be hell!<br /><br />Fortunately, there is more to the picture and there are better options. I'm certain that you are sincere, but there might just be a little surprise for you in your future. Say hi to Mr. Pack for me, and tell him I'm looking forward to enjoying some beer and potato chips with him in the Kingdom after Jesus has straightened everything out! In the meantime, I believe Dave owes Dennis a phone call!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-86645835294247827932014-07-19T17:40:28.458-07:002014-07-19T17:40:28.458-07:00So, Anon 3:15, you're "of the elect and w...So, Anon 3:15, you're "of the elect and will have a special place in the kingdom?"<br /><br />Well, Flurry's folks are of the <i>very</i> elect, so you're lagging behind a bit. <br /><br />How do you like them apples?Assistant Deaconnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-90451725330462291442014-07-19T17:16:03.049-07:002014-07-19T17:16:03.049-07:00The funny thing about being in an Armstrongite chu...The funny thing about being in an Armstrongite church is the way everyone talks about how the "holy spirit" does all this stuff, transforms you, blah blah blah, and yet you're really no different than you ever were. You just use different words to describe all the same impulses. Instead of "f@%& you" you say, "I'll pray for you." It's the same intention, just covered up with euphemistic language.<br /><br />Enjoy your "special place in the kingdom" and your rod of iron, anon3:15. Don't bother praying for me. If by some astronomical stretch of the imagination there really is a god and by yet another astronomical stretch of the imagination, Dave Pack is anything like him, I'd rather be in hell, thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-50439928543787116572014-07-19T16:45:38.345-07:002014-07-19T16:45:38.345-07:00Pack is super natural and awesome??? What in the h...Pack is super natural and awesome??? What in the hell are you guys smoking over there at RCG? The man spends most of his sermons bashing other people and churches. That's real awesome! It's nice to know he still has his ministers watching the "hate sights. " I know it must be a minister because they gave a sermonette ordering the slave workers never to visit these sights. So which minister are you? Is that you Dave? No one but you would use super natural, awesome, and Dave Pack in the same sentence. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-51876509499899868852014-07-19T15:45:13.666-07:002014-07-19T15:45:13.666-07:00Yes, Ronco, if Pack dealt in truth in advertising...Yes, Ronco, if Pack dealt in truth in advertising, updates on the site would say something like: <br /><br /> "Exciting, aggressive building and grounds program to be executed as sufficient numbers apostasize from their own ACOGs to fund it! Remember, Haggai is still a book! <br /><br />Pray for the geriatric members who already sent us their 401Ks and equity from their homes, so that they might now reenter the workforce to continue doing their fair share in supporting us.<br /><br />Remember, brethren, if you max out your credit cards for us now, we'll be in the place of safety before you ever need to pay them off!"<br /><br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-76805414886730434602014-07-19T15:42:09.267-07:002014-07-19T15:42:09.267-07:00BB wrote:
"I don't recall ever having hea...BB wrote:<br />"I don't recall ever having heard HWA, or any ministers from the classic, old school era leading up to 1975 teach that Christians don't retire."<br /><br />I do remember HWA preaching against retirement. I also remember sitting in a class of ministers and AC students in Pasadena in 1976 and hearing George Geis point out that many people are unable to continue working at an advanced age.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-88330360228970164282014-07-19T15:15:05.816-07:002014-07-19T15:15:05.816-07:00I often see the comments about how Mr. Pack is foo...I often see the comments about how Mr. Pack is foolish or only in it for the money. But he is not bothered by what you say, he knows that it is Satan working trying to disrupt the work that Mr. Pack does as God's only true end time apostle. Why else would so many enemies attack one person as you do here. It only strengthens our resolve to continue to support the work and Mr. Pack who is more than just some average man, he is obviously given special strength and abilities from God, he is super natural and awesome. You will all see soon that everything he teaches will come true and he will be a ruler in the Kingdom of God, and you will listen then because it will be so obvious. We know that we don't have to give anything that we don't want to, but it is a privilege to give to RCG and the money is used wisely by God's steward. So just keep scoffing and telling your filthy lies, or just get over it and prepare for the punishment that God will soon bring upon you. It gives me peace to know that I am of the elect and will have a special place in the kingdom, I will pray for you, you need that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com