tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post5077614442351637895..comments2024-03-29T03:57:21.878-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: UCG Expects Members To Fast Because Leadership Has No Humility Or Wisdom Necessary To Preach The GospelNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-70416428082175102122017-03-26T12:59:10.616-07:002017-03-26T12:59:10.616-07:00https://lightofthegentiles.com/remembrancers/the-r...https://lightofthegentiles.com/remembrancers/the-rain/ https://lightofthegentiles.com/2017/01/22/gods-last-end-short-work/ GOD HAS RAISED UP THE WITNESSES FOR THE PAST 3 1/2 YRS. <br /><br /><br /> kansaskeller@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07253325147730099628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-17331510490582081962017-03-26T12:51:21.163-07:002017-03-26T12:51:21.163-07:00https://plus.google.com/u/0/109629583007906794739 ...https://plus.google.com/u/0/109629583007906794739 <--- new truthskansaskeller@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07253325147730099628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-42692949132420077162017-03-26T12:42:32.212-07:002017-03-26T12:42:32.212-07:00It appears that God spit out all the splinters fro...It appears that God spit out all the splinters from the world wide church of God including the P.C.G.( Gerald Flurry )which God raised up to lead the Laodicean era of the church in spite of his problems . Satan has infiltrated the P.C.G. through Stephen Flurry and 25 Simon Magus ministers of (Ezk. 8 )leading the whole church away from God ! This is why God had to raise up the 2 witnesses to finish his short strange work.---- It also appears Mr H.W.A. taught 4% bible truths https://lightofthegentiles.com/herbert-w-armstrong/the-former-rain/ -------Mr.Flurry taught 22% bible truths-----https://lightofthegentiles.com/gerald-r-flurry/the-latter-rain/ --------The 2 witnesses for the past 3 1/2 yrs.has been teaching 74% new revelations from God.------https://lightofthegentiles.com/remembrancers/the-rain/ more new truths ----> https://plus.google.com/u/0/109629583007906794739 ---all splinters will have to join forces with the TRUE CHURCH OF GOD ----though it is registered as a foundation led by the 2 witnesses.<br />(HERBERT W. ARMSTRONG REMEMBRANCERS AND KEEPERS OF GOD FOUNDATION) or (ARK OF GOD FOUNDATION )since there is no more church eras after Laodicea.--we must prove these things--ETERNAL LIFE IS AT STAKE.kansaskeller@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07253325147730099628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-35319813758865387582017-03-21T20:25:12.319-07:002017-03-21T20:25:12.319-07:00
The UCG wants to fast its way into growing while ...<br />The UCG wants to fast its way into growing while sinning. The idea of ceasing to sin in order to grow is out of the question for the UCG. It wants to grow in its sins. This will not work. People in the world can sin freely elsewhere without putting up with all the godless UCG sinners and their nonsense.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-36283384972653503422017-03-21T15:25:16.299-07:002017-03-21T15:25:16.299-07:00Connie
I disagree. There is a formal/informal hier...Connie<br />I disagree. There is a formal/informal hierarchy in all human organisations. In a church setting, hierarchy does not give ministers the right to Lord it over members lives or beliefs. Think of car company as a analogy. There is a hierarchy which defines responsibilities. But the company does not lord it over employees faith or go snooping in its employees cupboards. The ministers are overstepping their boundaries and robbing members of their God given rights, which they deceitfully call 'administering Gods government.' They are power hungry thieving crooks. It's difficult to persuade people on this point, since ministers deliberately hide the concept of rights. It's treated as a taboo topic which robs it victims the comprehension to perceive the abuse.<br />Expressing it biblically, the ministers are robbing members of the talents that God gives to each person in the parable of the talents. <br />The problem is robbery rather than hierarchy as such.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-63078798573220302882017-03-21T08:17:00.751-07:002017-03-21T08:17:00.751-07:00How about observing the UCG fast by going to a nic...How about observing the UCG fast by going to a nice buffet really fast!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-84686137951657387292017-03-20T19:42:00.463-07:002017-03-20T19:42:00.463-07:003.23 PM
Your point has already been debated here. ...3.23 PM<br />Your point has already been debated here. It proved impervious to reason, so I pass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-28593692393988852032017-03-20T15:23:54.364-07:002017-03-20T15:23:54.364-07:00"You are obviously a God hater. It's rare..."<i>You are obviously a God hater. It's rare for people to be open about it.</i>"<br /><br />I hate "god" as much as I "hate" Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. LOL<br /><br />It's pretty hard to deny that the bible indicates that "god" is going to gain the approval of "all" of his subjects through a process of mass extermination.<br /><br />It's also pretty hard to deny that someone who believes, a) this is really going to happen, and b) it will be a good thing, is the here harboring the hatred.<br /><br />I'm not the one here who believes any of this, or the one rooting for the annihilation of nearly everyone on earth. I'm not the one doing the hating here. All I'm doing is pointing out the inconvenient.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-57795192075064106182017-03-20T01:51:32.083-07:002017-03-20T01:51:32.083-07:007.43 PM
If you look up the 2017 index of economic ...7.43 PM<br />If you look up the 2017 index of economic freedom (which includes rule of law and government size) Hong Kong is at number one and Singapore at number two. <br />No, the Libertarians do not view no government as the ideal. They believe that there needs to be government to protect individual rights, hence people settle disputes through the law courts rather than 'among themselves.' This is the same role of government articulated in the Declaration of independence. This was the basic role of American government until the beginning of the twentieth century.<br />I'm not a libertarian. All Libertarianism says is that small government works, with no underling supportive moral code. So even their definition of rights is dubious. Libertarianism is a mix of hedonism and freedom. I'm not a fan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-80467270121853920112017-03-19T19:43:18.568-07:002017-03-19T19:43:18.568-07:00Anon 4:24, Singapore operates on libertarian belie...Anon 4:24, Singapore operates on libertarian beliefs? You leave me mystified.<br /><br />As the name suggests, libertarians (not limited to members of the Libertarian Party) are big on individual as well as economic liberties: people should be free to make choices about drug use, sexual activity, expression of opinion, worship, and so on. Knowing nothing about Singapore except a few reports about caning as a penalty for such misdemeanors as littering, I checked Wikipedia. Here's the first sentence I read: "The government in Singapore has broad powers to limit citizens' rights and to inhibit political opposition." <br /><br />Other tidbits: the internal security administration "permits indefinite detention without formal charges or recourse to trial"; the death penalty is mandatory "for the possession of more than 14g of heroin"; laws have "restricted freedom of speech and freedom of the press"; adults are required "to enroll for national service." <br /><br />Libertarians see the ideal government as none at all, except just enough to prevent theft and enforce contracts. Let people do as they wish and settle any issues among themselves; the strong will win out and the weak will submit, die, or emigrate. Somalia has had no central government for 14 years. A headline in yesterday's *Telegraph* reads," 'There are no laws. We are in a country where no one can control anyone else'." Pretty much a libertarian dream carried too far. The result of this free-for-all is rule by regional warlords. The lack of coordinated transportation networks exacerbates famines from drought.<br /><br /><br />Retired Profnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-34544862519006308842017-03-19T18:57:11.009-07:002017-03-19T18:57:11.009-07:005.57 PM
You are obviously a God hater. It's ra...5.57 PM<br />You are obviously a God hater. It's rare for people to be open about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-43636693800803269852017-03-19T17:57:43.954-07:002017-03-19T17:57:43.954-07:00According to the bible, the only reason why Christ...According to the bible, the only reason why Christ will have the approval of His subjects is because he employed what the Nazi's called "the final solution" for the vast majority of the human race who were not on board. According to the bible, he's eventually supposed to make Hitler and Stalin look like good guys. I suggest you read some books on propaganda to comprehend how you've been hoodwinked. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-51297031550227471892017-03-19T16:24:25.959-07:002017-03-19T16:24:25.959-07:00Prof
Other nations such as Singapore and Hong Kong...Prof<br />Other nations such as Singapore and Hong Kong (before the commies took over) are the closest one can find to the libertarian beliefs.<br />Besides which, libertarianism is watered down capitalism for the masses. Positive and negatives rights, how ridiculous is that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-91050752575399185072017-03-19T16:08:56.697-07:002017-03-19T16:08:56.697-07:009.17 AM
The reason I didn't refute anything yo...9.17 AM<br />The reason I didn't refute anything you said (in your eyes) is because you ignored everything I said. The bible is anti-authoritarian, which you insist on dismissing. <br />I suggest you look long and hard at what God created rather than other peoples theorizing. A government must have the approval of its subjects in order to properly fulfil its role of protecting its citizens rights. This is inherent in reality, just as rubber is flexible or glass is brittle. Which is why God gave Israel king Saul when they reject God and asked for a king. When a government lacks its citizens approval, a government reverts to tyranny to remain in power. The government then becomes at war with basic reality.<br />Christ will rule for all eternity because He will have the approval of His subjects. It will not be a authoritarian government but a freedom loving, rights respecting government. I suggest you read some books on assertiveness to comprehend this alternative. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-46525839627197721082017-03-19T14:45:32.589-07:002017-03-19T14:45:32.589-07:00The disUnited Church of Godlessness: Where unrepe...<br />The <b>disUnited Church of Godlessness</b>: Where unrepentant, unconverted, unbelieving perverts go to behave <i>very</i> badly while playing church.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-27815671094728359052017-03-19T14:10:57.587-07:002017-03-19T14:10:57.587-07:00Notice that the following verse speaks in the PRES...Notice that the following verse speaks in the PRESENT TENSE not future, but NOW! <br /><br />1 Peter 2:9-10 reads as follows: “But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; <br /><br />The veil was ripped when Jesus died! There is no need for hierarchy, only cooperation amongst those who are led by the Spirit. Democracy can work for a church IF, and thats a big if, the people are indeed led by the Holy Spirit. The spirit is the governing power and authority. <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910856904624749641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-65860201910613772212017-03-19T12:45:38.746-07:002017-03-19T12:45:38.746-07:00"Comrad, [sic] I volunteer to pay for your on...<br />"Comrad, [sic] I volunteer to pay for your one way ticket to North Korea so you can enjoy your anti capitalist heaven on earth." March 19, 2017 at 1:09 AM<br /><br /><br />Now that's a generous offer, but it's not fair and balanced. You also need to purchase yourself a one-way ticket to the Libertarian utopia of Somalia.Retired Profnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-86892761465627326172017-03-19T09:17:49.687-07:002017-03-19T09:17:49.687-07:001:04 AM wrote:
You said a bunch of stuff, but you...1:04 AM wrote:<br /><br />You said a bunch of stuff, but you didn't refute anything I said.<br /><br />The point was and still is, in authoritarian regimes, the power is theorized to come down from above, while in democratic regimes, the power is theorized to come up from the people.<br /><br />You can put whatever benevolent spin upon an authoritarian regime headed by a tyrannical god that you want to. It doesn't change the biblical theory on the direction that power is supposed go, or the absolute power that tyrant is supposed to wield according to that bible.6.06 PMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-71677369537172478562017-03-19T01:09:23.845-07:002017-03-19T01:09:23.845-07:007.47 PM
Comrad, I volunteer to pay for your one wa...7.47 PM<br />Comrad, I volunteer to pay for your one way ticket to North Korea so you can enjoy your anti capitalist heaven on earth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-63594957087857687692017-03-19T01:04:00.922-07:002017-03-19T01:04:00.922-07:006.06 PM
Contrary to what you say, the bible govern...6.06 PM<br />Contrary to what you say, the bible government model is not tyrannical. In Mathew Mark, Christ said not to lord it over members like the gentiles. The word obey appears 26 times in the NT and in 22 cases it means 'take heed of, be persuaded, take not of..' In only 4 cases does it have a military flavour such as 'obey God rather than man.' Lording ministers project tyrannical government into the bible, but at close inspection, it is not there, but rather condemned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-91698735707363652062017-03-19T00:48:00.197-07:002017-03-19T00:48:00.197-07:00I question the accusation from some that Herb '...I question the accusation from some that Herb 'turned sissy and wussed out' when witnessing to world leaders. World leaders are not dummies. They had their advisors who would have informed them what's behind expressions such as Herbie 'a strong hand from somewhere.' He respected political protocol by not directly mentioning God, which could have had political consequences for the politicians present.<br />Herb was no social barbarian in spreading the gospel. Neither was Christ. I don't fault Herb on this one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-76496288209041636382017-03-18T21:23:36.641-07:002017-03-18T21:23:36.641-07:00Anon said:
"Sometimes I wonder why I stay wit...Anon said:<br />"Sometimes I wonder why I stay with the UCG."<br /><br />You don't have to, you know.<br />It's as simple as just not attending. (And not giving them your own money.)<br /><br />Life will go on fine, if not better.<br />Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-80484378977841522722017-03-18T20:43:37.491-07:002017-03-18T20:43:37.491-07:00I'm gonna stay with the Church of God (7th Da...I'm gonna stay with the Church of God (7th Day). A church that is still very much alive and proclaiming the Gospel!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-82621204632769183472017-03-18T20:13:40.359-07:002017-03-18T20:13:40.359-07:00IIija
Armstrong died over 30 years ago. Should'...IIija<br />Armstrong died over 30 years ago. Should'nt the new generation hear the gospel as well??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-30731432928028825562017-03-18T20:12:22.050-07:002017-03-18T20:12:22.050-07:00No, Ilija, Mr. Armstrong turned sissy and wussed o...No, Ilija, Mr. Armstrong turned sissy and wussed out when the doors opened and he finally got the opportunity to preach the gospel to world leaders. It doesn't really matter, because he was only preaching half a gospel anyway. <br /><br />Now God is going to have to raise stones up, because the splinters frittered away all of their power. Well, actually that isn't altogether true. Mainstream Christians are doing an excellent job of spreading the gospel!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.com