tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post6669099024752338862..comments2024-03-28T22:03:24.506-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Bronze Age Parenting and We'll Keep the Flames of Molech on for Ya!NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-36025058031662893632017-07-10T23:11:19.091-07:002017-07-10T23:11:19.091-07:00If a bear "bitch slaps" a full grown man...If a bear "bitch slaps" a full grown man, just once, it can kill the man. Sheer brute force, way beyond even that of a 300 lb buffed out sheriff's deputy.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-51273848659060606922017-07-10T21:18:53.422-07:002017-07-10T21:18:53.422-07:00You are right about the "bear attack" no...You are right about the "bear attack" not really happening. Just like the story of Samson having strength 'cause of his long hair. At no point is that even remotely possible.Jesus H. Christnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-63675097605516097682017-07-10T20:46:17.007-07:002017-07-10T20:46:17.007-07:00I've heard commentary to the effect that the r...I've heard commentary to the effect that the rape the scripture is talking about was what we call today "statutory rape". In that context, the commandment and the marriage make perfect sense. Kind of like Paw gettin' out his shotgun and forcing Jethro and lil' Louweezy down to the preacher's place to git married.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-9042241236001372862017-07-10T20:18:38.293-07:002017-07-10T20:18:38.293-07:00Anon said :If each bear took 30 seconds per attack...Anon said :If each bear took 30 seconds per attack, it still would be plenty of time to escape or kill the bears.<br /><br />I have a feeling the story is simply not literally true and it never happened. Poetic and Prophetic license. <br /><br />Kinda like Dave Pack boasting that "everyone who ever opposed me either got sick or died" or whatever BS he came up with to sound awesome and credible.DennisCDiehlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10417850852638492246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-33936376329686296852017-07-10T17:36:08.792-07:002017-07-10T17:36:08.792-07:00Two bears killed or mauled 42 youth. Two bears fi...Two bears killed or mauled 42 youth. Two bears fighting for food would first get rid of one or the other bear. Why wouldn't 40 of the youth run away after the first two youth get munched on? If each bear took 30 seconds per attack, it still would be plenty of time to escape or kill the bears.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-22965673050911069652017-07-10T09:22:25.156-07:002017-07-10T09:22:25.156-07:00"I can't help but think, for any period i..."I can't help but think, for any period in which these barbaric Jewish laws might have been enforced, I wonder how many such men who married their victims it would later turn out that "as long as he lives" didn't prove to be very long."<br /><br /><br />Helen, that is hilarious and so true.<br /><br />As long as modern man is able to think they have found ways to circumvent the precepts of other thinking homo sapiens and organized religion in any shape and form. Like you I am a hundred percent sure that on O'l macdonalds farm he had a cow, a chicken, a raped wife and heyiheyahoo he didn't get to add many more years to his life after the fact.<br />Unfortunately the biblical precept would be a brother stepping in as replacement.<br /><br /><br />ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-43149861303804299472017-07-10T09:14:16.471-07:002017-07-10T09:14:16.471-07:00Mmhmm. I think the text is pretty clear. As eviden...Mmhmm. I think the text is pretty clear. As evidenced by the later need to smooth it over. Whether it was the deity or the sick minds that came up with the abduction in the case of Rimmon Rock, I do not know.RSKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-37828434906025221822017-07-10T05:24:34.441-07:002017-07-10T05:24:34.441-07:00what makes you think Cain was in the Garden?what makes you think Cain was in the Garden?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-26496114698067450312017-07-10T00:23:32.221-07:002017-07-10T00:23:32.221-07:00In most of these cases, "conditions apply&quo...In most of these cases, "conditions apply", and as for sticking these things on "the Jews", probably the most common Biblical phrase was "...and the LORD said to Moses, speak to the Children of Israel saying...".<br /><br />As for Jephthah's daughter, the result was most likely "get thee to a nunnery" - she was probably offered to the Temple for life service, as was Samuel.<br /><br /><br />Hosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13285219921252563944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-67312154818162954252017-07-09T18:38:26.137-07:002017-07-09T18:38:26.137-07:00Well, the Jews are even worse today than when they...Well, the Jews are even worse today than when they wrote those O.T. versus. Go find out what's in the Talmud, and do some research on these nasties and find out what they are really all about. <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13122609358159942052017-07-09T16:16:51.557-07:002017-07-09T16:16:51.557-07:00I could care less about any of the attempted smoot...I could care less about any of the attempted smoothing by later apologists. I have serious reservations about any "god" who would think that was proper behavior at any point. RSKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-45943765734792987122017-07-09T14:17:58.376-07:002017-07-09T14:17:58.376-07:00This article should be printed in the Bargain Hunt...This article should be printed in the Bargain Hunters Guide out of Bath Springs, Tennessee. They usually print religious type articles such as this kind.Greg X. Volznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-68086068954476308132017-07-09T14:00:45.932-07:002017-07-09T14:00:45.932-07:00The "worthy of death concept" in the OT ...The "worthy of death concept" in the OT is also suspect and ridiculous Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-12470167291494804942017-07-09T13:20:39.095-07:002017-07-09T13:20:39.095-07:00This is superman. You will never find out my secre...This is superman. You will never find out my secret human identity cause once I put on my glasses, no one can recognise me. The same with supergirl.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-48730729006358617182017-07-09T13:16:43.465-07:002017-07-09T13:16:43.465-07:00Jephthah made the oath hoping his mother in law, o...Jephthah made the oath hoping his mother in law, or his nagging wife would be the first one out of his house. Why else would he do it? It was a attempted murder that went wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-84728329254696404532017-07-09T12:10:35.278-07:002017-07-09T12:10:35.278-07:00Thankfully, since Torah was not written by Moses i...Thankfully, since Torah was not written by Moses in c. 1400 BCE (who it is the consensus of scholars never existed anyway) but instead was written by the Jews about 1000 years later, and it was most likely never used as the national law of Judah, or if it was, it couldn't have been for longer than just a few decades before The Babylonians would be making the rules, followed by the Persians, Greeks, Seleucids, a brief stint under the Hellenized Hasmoneans, and then the Romans. I'm not saying the laws of those who occupied Judah/Judea/Palestina were necessarily any less barbaric, just that these laws of a supposed god who many christians assume to be real and the same one they worship, are far from being above reproach.<br /><br />"<i>If a man [meets] a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her ... He must marry the girl ... He can never divorce her as long as he lives. -- Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (NIV)</i>"<br /><br />I can't help but think, for any period in which these barbaric Jewish laws might have been enforced, I wonder how many such men who married their victims it would later turn out that "as long as he lives" didn't prove to be very long. It wasn't that hard to poison your enemies in ancient times and get away with it.Helen Wheelsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-52460414213256096492017-07-09T11:51:11.022-07:002017-07-09T11:51:11.022-07:00The Hebrew word means "young men" (see I...The Hebrew word means "young men" (see I Kings 3:7). The NIV, quoted here, uses the word “youths.” The bears mauled 42 of the youths indicates that there were more than 42 youths involved. This was not a small group of children making fun of a bald man. Sound more like a gang of hoodlums, perhaps half drunk, threatening a prophet, rather than children mocking him. Elisha called upon the Lord to deal with the rebels as He saw fit. Then God served up a big dish of whip ass. That probably sobered up some of them.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-23496218909954402982017-07-09T11:39:42.621-07:002017-07-09T11:39:42.621-07:00Deuteronomy 22:28-29 “If a man meets a virgin who ...Deuteronomy 22:28-29 “If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days."<br />Exodus 22:16-17 “If a man seduces a virgin who is not betrothed and lies with her, he shall give the bride price for her and make her his wife. If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the bride price for virgins."<br /> But her father is ultimately in authority over her until he hands this authority over to her husband. If the man is unsuitable, the father can refuse to give his daughter to him. How many fathers would give their daughter to a rapist? Not many. A rapist would actually have to pay a 50 silver shekel fine to her father, and not get a wife at all.<br />With regards to Exodus 22:17 - the woman does NOT have to marry a rapist, she must only do what her father says.<br />No rape victim is recorded as being forced to marry a rapist. In 2 Samuel 13, Amnon, a son of David, rapes his half-sister, Tamar. Tamar was not forced to marry Amnon. Interestingly, though, Tamar seemed to have wanted to marry Amnon after the rape (2 Samuel 13:13-16). The passage leaves marriage to the discretion of the father.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-14077231221398401482017-07-09T10:53:20.400-07:002017-07-09T10:53:20.400-07:00One would have thought that in the absence of spec...One would have thought that in the absence of specific examples from antiquity (Bible), the intelligent thing to do would have been to draw on the best examples from contemporary civilization. WCG could also have drawn on Jesus' teaching on the good shepherd, the "suffer the little children" lesson, and at least touched on the concept of grace. However, Armstrongism did what is written in HWA's dna. They extrapolated severe legalism from the strictest passages in the Bible, and destroyed the innate natural sense of family that some of the more enlightened Christian groups of today actually cultivate and celebrate. <br /><br />Armstrongism as a system was a giant factory for turning church members into unfeeling and robotic sociopaths. Part of how this was accomplished was through the child-rearing "principles". Once this process has been successfully completed, it is very difficult to reverse it, and to recapture what was lost. In molding and mentoring to a child, you only get one shot. Children perceive the difference when before their parents come into the church, their parents address and meet their emotional needs, and then suddenly afterwards, they are treated as nuisances and obstructions to their parents' progress in Armstrongism.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-37670927551018304402017-07-09T10:08:30.119-07:002017-07-09T10:08:30.119-07:00Deut 21, stoning an unruly child... a Jewish comm...Deut 21, stoning an unruly child... a Jewish commentary said that there were quite a few crimes that were considered worthy of death, but in only ONE (first degree murder) would it be actually carried out. The rest of these so called capital offenses would be settled with a fine. Num 35:30 says, "Anyone who kills a person is to be put to death as a murderer . . . v 31 Do not accept a ransom for the life of a murderer, who deserves to die." So why list so many other sins as capital offenses? The commentator says it was to impress upon them the seriousness of the sin, but the death penalty was not carried out.Steve Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03186651595432665670noreply@blogger.com