tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post6865376063609602228..comments2024-03-28T17:11:16.934-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Gerald Flurry's Pathetic Attempt to Extort Money Out Of His Members For His Own Personal JetNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-65762020238746140602017-03-24T14:54:08.963-07:002017-03-24T14:54:08.963-07:00Anon 11:13 AM wastes our time writing this: "...Anon 11:13 AM wastes our time writing this: "...I've even heard other tele evangelists say in their programs that the ten toes in Daniel is a coming ten nation United States of Europe. Another example that a warning has reached nations, including other Christian denominations..."<br /><br />The warning is useless for those 10 nations getting together anytime soon. In reality, it is a lie for any who think some coming 10 nation US of Europe will soon occur. The 10 nations won't exist until AFTER Satan exits that pit over a 1,000 years from now. You, Anon 11:13, won't be alive to see it unless you are one of them elect that is changed from physical to spirit form. This is Satan's present evil world and those tele evangelists just continue to spread his lies. Time will tell!<br /><br />You also wrote: "If you examine all the scriptures, including Daniel, the 200 million army in Revelation can only be reference to WW3."<br /><br />You have no proof of those verses having anything to do with WW 3. Revelation 9:13-21 is about events of the 6th Trumpet. How do you know if those 200 million are human beings or evil spirit beings? Are you guessing again?<br /><br />AFTER Satam is loosed from the pit we read the following:<br /><br />Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,<br />:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.<br /><br />That is for AFTER the 1,000 years, your Mickey Mouse Millennium. The number will be greater than 200 million for that battle, I suspect. Can you count the sand of the sea? I would guess that it is innumerable. What WW would you like to call that particular battle...that AFTER the 1,000 years? Where was/is Christ at that time? Do you know?<br /><br />Hence the warnings going out today come out as lies. You know that many people believe that the 7 Trumpet Plagues and the 7 Vials will all occur before the Mickey Mouse Millennium, the 1,000 years, begin and some Jesus Christ arrives to establish peace and a reign on earth. Something does not add up, wouldn't you agree? Forget them Tele-evangelists; they don't know what they're talking about. They all just want your $mammon$ for their thoughts, their books, their DVDs, etc. What a waste!<br /><br />Do you want to warn about something? Warn about the 7 Vials when the major destruction occurs, but you will be partaking in some dirt nap unless you are one of those elect, who is a part of the completed first resurrection.<br /><br />And time will tell...<br /><br />John<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-79459457882049631852017-03-23T04:12:59.364-07:002017-03-23T04:12:59.364-07:00March 22, 2017 at 4:11 PM
Huh?
The second oath w...March 22, 2017 at 4:11 PM<br /><br />Huh?<br /><br />The second oath was "unconditional loyalty" to the person of the leader (not even the office of the leader but the person). The first was conditional in the sense that is was limited or conditioned by the objective "to serve the state and the people".<br /><br />Re: Polling<br /><br />Yes the manner of questioning and the questions themselves are very important variables.<br /><br />ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-80989917236323783162017-03-22T23:13:21.344-07:002017-03-22T23:13:21.344-07:00I've even heard other tele evangelists say in ...I've even heard other tele evangelists say in their programs that the ten toes in Daniel is a coming ten nation United States of Europe. Another example that a warning has reached nations, including other Christian denominations.<br />If you examine all the scriptures, including Daniel, the 200 million army in Revelation can only be reference to WW3. As far as I'm concerned Math 24.21 and Rev 9.15-16 are self evident. No speculation is needed.<br /><br />The label 'The great tribulation' will probably stick for all eternity. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-88564943591440014632017-03-22T19:03:08.697-07:002017-03-22T19:03:08.697-07:00Anon 1:15 PM, you, after finally acknowledging tha...Anon 1:15 PM, you, after finally acknowledging that "the Great Tribulation" phrase was nowhere to be found in the Bible, wrote: "...While it's true that these splinters feed their members milk and junk food, it is not true that the end time prophecies that they teach, are not reaching the public. To various degrees, the warning is going out..."<br /><br />I suppose you noticed the image associated with this thread is making a reference to Gerald Flurry and Gerald is holding a copy of Malachi's Message, which most in the know realize did not originate with Gerald Flurry. What kind of a warning message does that send...and Gerald's group called Philadelphia is just another man-made splinter full of milk and junk food.<br /><br />Notice also the plaque around Gerald's neck says "The End Is Near!" What kind of a warning message is that from a splinter leader?<br /><br />You mention Matthew 24:21 and Revelation 9:15-16 and then speculate: "...that can only refer to WW 3." Where is your proof for that? What do you think? WW 3 magically happens, then Jesus Christ returns to set up that 1,000 years, that Mickey Mouse Millennium, to reign on earth with some everlasting peace?<br /><br />What do you do with Revelation 20, AFTER Satan is loosed from that pit?<br /><br />Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,<br />:8 And shall go out to DECEIVE the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to BATTLE: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.<br /><br />Why did Jesus Christ allow that to happen? Is that WW 4? WW 5? WW 6? Do you expect to be sending out some warning message about that?<br /><br />Anyway, just how good are those warning messages you speak of? They don't give us the truth. Flurry and the other splinters pay no attention to Jesus Christ after He was murdered, put in the grave for 3 days and 3 nights, was resurrected and went to Heaven. According to the Bible, did Jesus Christ stay there? No! He had another coming to earth, but you ignore that, and so your so-called "second coming" is just another made-up thing. Will there be a 3rd, a 4th, a 5th coming of Jesus Christ?<br /><br />What is written regarding the Trumpet magazine?<br /><br />"...As presenter of the Key of David television program, which he began in 1993, Gerald Flurry proclaims the wonderful good news of the soon-coming return of Jesus Christ to Earth—to save mankind alive and usher in the peaceful, happy, wonderful World Tomorrow. This thrilling, transcendent hope permeates all of his messages. Through broadcast, print and personal appearance campaigns he also prophesies again in the tradition of Herbert W. Armstrong a sobering warning of the unprecedented world troubles just ahead, which will precede Christ’s Second Coming..."<br /><br />Flurry began a tv program (Doesn’t Mickey Mouse have an entire Network channel, or something like that?) in 1993! Soon-coming return of Jesus Christ to reign on earth? It's 2017! And then there is that made-up phrase of Christ's "Second Coming." Gerald can't even prophesy/count the # of Christ's comings!<br /><br />So much for Gerald's warning message. There was nothing timely about it, or have we overlooked something?<br /><br />Time will tell...<br /><br />JohnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-4324902820567728232017-03-22T17:17:11.244-07:002017-03-22T17:17:11.244-07:00It's more likely that they heard of these prop...It's more likely that they heard of these prophecies from Tim LaHay and Jerry Jenkins and their "Left Behind" series of novels and motion pictures. Several years ago, it was very difficult NOT to know about these, because they were immensely popular and there was incredible street buzz about them. <br /><br />What constitutes a warning? Is it overhearing some dispensationalist church talk around the water cooler at work, or is it being presented with a credible opportunity to repent? Does it only count if you hear end times prophecy from an ACOG, or will evangelicals, Mormons, Ba'hai, or Jehovah's Witnesses suffice?<br /><br />There are Christian ministries who carefully survey the globe to determine where the gospel has not been preached, and then launch a systematic effort to cover those areas, so that Jesus can return. Unfortunately, y'all ACOG folks label such ministries as "Christian falsely so-called" because they are Sunday-keeping Christians.<br /><br />Of course, I hate to bring up the ridiculous, but it seems I must, just to illustrate what mentality we're up against. Many times, at Friday evening Bible Study in the AC gym in Pasadena, HWA stated that God had given him the wisdom to preach the gospel to world leaders in such a way that they would not know that it had been preached. An imperceivable gospel! I think that if Jesus had heard that one sometime while dining with the disciples, a mouthful of holy water might have gotten sprayed across the table as He uncontrollably laughed! It's got to be one of the more ridiculous statements that I've ever heard!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-48598091619470254952017-03-22T16:11:32.399-07:002017-03-22T16:11:32.399-07:00Nck
The oath to Hitler was 'complicated' b...Nck<br />The oath to Hitler was 'complicated' because the prior oath to the constitution was unconditional. Hence there was a moral contradiction between the two oaths taken. <br /><br />There were poles that did predict that Trump would win. I read them before the election. The difference wasn't because of 'algorithms' but because the pollsters asked questions that were impartial. The fifth column, dishonest MSM by contrast asked skewed questions. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13815352176060677432017-03-22T15:26:49.798-07:002017-03-22T15:26:49.798-07:00Anon March 21, 2017 at 1:15 PM admonishes John, &q...<br />Anon March 21, 2017 at 1:15 PM admonishes John, "You ignored Math 24.21 and Rev 9.15-16 that can only refer to WW 3."<br /><br />It might look that way on a superficial reading, Anon, but if you examine those verses with true spiritual discernment, you see that they actually refer to taking out ads in the *Readers Digest*.Retired Profnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-35515117225500043712017-03-22T07:39:45.880-07:002017-03-22T07:39:45.880-07:001:31
Today with facebook and google analysis we ca...1:31<br />Today with facebook and google analysis we can make fairly accurate predictions as to where the next cold will strike and from where it originates. In the charts you see people searching for "cold symptoms", or "flu" like an expanding wine or oil stain.<br /><br />But yes it is complicated "Many people believed that Hillary rather than Trump would win. Look what happened. This is a example of how hard it is to pick what people know and believe."<br /><br />As a matter of fact Hillary got 2,8 million more votes than Mr Trump. The reason that the prediction of her becoming president was wrong was because the algorythms weren't prepared enough for the complicated election system and the fine maze of counties within the system. Wrong assessment of the majors and minors within the election system. Will be improved.<br /><br />ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-45337522494720186502017-03-22T07:11:48.928-07:002017-03-22T07:11:48.928-07:00In light of the 11:43 comment I take the liberty t...In light of the 11:43 comment I take the liberty to for the third time call them out on that statement and make the comparison clearer for any visitor.<br /><br />It must also compell writers like 11:43 to be accurate if they make statements like the 11:43 one. If true they signal a remarkable shift.<br /><br />regarding the oath<br />The words: "Volk and Fatherland had been superseded by the person of Hitler himself"<br /><br />ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-40909382705650135812017-03-22T07:03:53.396-07:002017-03-22T07:03:53.396-07:001:31
No, it is not complicated at all.
The Reich...1:31<br /><br />No, it is not complicated at all.<br /><br />The Reichswehreid was a clever ploy to replace the former oath.<br />The oath pledged personal loyalty to Adolf Hitler in place of loyalty to the constitution of the country. A person and the state he represents should not be interchangeable. There is alway the rule of law.<br /><br />That's exactly why I made my remark. <br />I don't like placing "faith" or "loyalty" to persons very much since 1933. Some here have in my postings perceived a certain immunity to Armstrongism during my 23 year stint. I tended to see him as a fallible tool during my stint, but was never genetically and culturally suited to trust the Saxon Witan way of goverment or the Anglo loyalty to the clan chief.<br /><br />nck nckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-65150978860337614002017-03-22T01:41:15.688-07:002017-03-22T01:41:15.688-07:008.14 PM
People who listen to Gerald's programs...8.14 PM<br />People who listen to Gerald's programs and read his internet site don't give a damn if he is a false prophet or false anything. All they care about is whether what he says is true. Is America about to experience a economic siege that will ruin the nation, a curse from God? They don't care about his character, or if he is robbing his church members. That's the way the world works.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-20500912936232713062017-03-22T01:31:31.458-07:002017-03-22T01:31:31.458-07:00Nck
Actually, the soldiers had already sworn alleg...Nck<br />Actually, the soldiers had already sworn allegiance to the German constitution prior to their oath to Hitler, so this oath thingy is complicated.<br /><br />BB <br />most people move within a given social group. It's hard to discern what society as a whole is doing in detail. People only need to hear only once in a social get together about the churches horror prophecies. I worked in a large company, and most in my department had heard of the churches prophecies, and it was NOT from me. People gossip. From what I can discern, they got it from the news stand program. <br />Many people believed that Hillary rather than Trump would win. Look what happened. This is a example of how hard it is to pick what people know and believe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-25705997865020343942017-03-21T20:14:32.288-07:002017-03-21T20:14:32.288-07:00Anonymous on March 20, 2017 at 2:13 AM said...“In ...<br /><i>Anonymous on March 20, 2017 at 2:13 AM said...“In all fairness, it's only Flurrys Philadelphian church broadcasters and web site that's strongly warning of the coming tribulation.”</i><br /><br /><br />Nobody, anywhere, anytime, ever needs a false prophet like Gerald Flurry to warn them about anything.<br /><br />Some COG people do need someone to warn them about false prophets like Gerald Flurry.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-36892381436447221662017-03-21T15:43:22.729-07:002017-03-21T15:43:22.729-07:00Of course Banned bloggers don't decide when th...Of course Banned bloggers don't decide when the world has been adequately warned. To state that we do would be a puerile assertion. However, not being cloistered, we do live and work in the world which surrounds us. And, we are certainly capable of detecting from our daily interactions whether any sort of warning from the ACOGs is audible. <br /><br />It isn't. <br /><br />BB<br />Byker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-73226764749432343822017-03-21T13:55:16.397-07:002017-03-21T13:55:16.397-07:00No the Roman Catholic Church is safeguarded for gr...No the Roman Catholic Church is safeguarded for gross error on its own belief system through its sheer mass, size and instutions. To believe a splinter leader on faith alone bears inherent danger. It does not matter who is right or wrong. It bears resemblance to Hitlers clever application of the oath on his person instead of Germany. Not many saw the difference at the time. Ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-44975820072217549862017-03-21T13:15:48.924-07:002017-03-21T13:15:48.924-07:00John
You kept harping on non essentials. It's ...John<br />You kept harping on non essentials. It's true that the label 'The great tribulation' doesn't occur in the bible. But so what? Big deal. Polar bears, koala bears, kangaroos don't appear in the bible either. It doesn't mean that they don't exist. The great tribulation' is a useful label. You ignored Math 24.21 and Rev 9.15-16 that can only refer to WW 3. While it's true that these splinters feed their members milk and junk food, it is not true that the end time prophecies that they teach, are not reaching the public. To various degrees, the warning is going out.<br />Many posters here have claimed that there is practically no warning. Only God knows what is sometimes discussed in private. So God is the only one who can properly judge this point. The 'fruits' criteria is hard to apply in this case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-35911677122635295702017-03-21T11:43:48.904-07:002017-03-21T11:43:48.904-07:00Ryan Malone recently told the PCG members to follo...Ryan Malone recently told the PCG members to follow in faith and that they no longer need to prove th revelation. From Gerald flurry. In essence he's saying there is t any proof just to follow. They are sounding more and more like the Roman Catholic Church to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-9098768686621286162017-03-21T08:40:07.742-07:002017-03-21T08:40:07.742-07:00Anon. 11:35 PM advises John: "It's God wh...Anon. 11:35 PM advises John: "It's God who will decide if and when humanity has been adequately warned. Not Banned bloggers."<br /><br />Pish! You mean our vote is only advisory, with no legal force? Then to hell with it. I'm going out to putter in the garden, now that the ground has thawed enough for me to dig out some quack grass. If God permits it, that is.Retired Profnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-23743008672087637262017-03-21T08:05:38.686-07:002017-03-21T08:05:38.686-07:00continuing to Anon 11:35 PM
Your concluding comme...continuing to Anon 11:35 PM<br /><br />Your concluding comments were: "...It's God who will decide if and when humanity has been adequately warned. Not Banned bloggers..."<br /><br />Banned bloggers aren't deciding anything there. God just does it and one of the things we may conclude with, whether people lie about some warning or not, is this:<br /><br />"To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, NOT imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation." 2 Corinthians 5:19<br /><br />Preach that! Well, no, you can't.....you're too busy being focused on Fear Religion and scaring people with warning messages and those splinters (including Philadelphia and United and Cogwa and Living, etc., et al too) still are blind to the timing of events, and you know what the blind do to the blind they lead!<br /><br />Sure, there will be tribulations, as there has been for about 6,000 years now on humanity, but we've not seen the end of the matter yet......unless you understand 2 Corinthians 5:19, among other scriptures, and come to really believe it.<br /><br />Philadelphia, United, are like fish floundering all over the place, and for what? What is really being accomplished? They are like aircraft in a holding pattern, going around in circles, looking for a place to land before they run out of gas, but are unable to find the right path to follow through the fog. Blind pilots don't "cut it!"<br /><br />Banned bloggers do see through a lot of the fog!<br /><br />Time will tell...<br /><br />John<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-38234809455815162092017-03-21T08:04:02.498-07:002017-03-21T08:04:02.498-07:00Anon 11:35 PM
Anon 11:35 PM
I earlier wrote: &qu...Anon 11:35 PM<br /><br />Anon 11:35 PM<br /><br />I earlier wrote: "...And the phrase "The Great Tribulation" can't be found anywhere in the Bible..."<br /><br />You quoted Matthew 24:21, which does NOT use that phrase. In your own mind it is you and so many others who like to add that word "The" in that verse about great tribulation and it's not there. The definite article "the" is not there. So, Christ did not refer to "The Great Tribulation" in Matthew 24.<br /><br />You also wrote: "...God likewise uses Satan and his demons to His advantage..."<br /><br />So what? God did create evil; didn't He?<br /><br />"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, AND CREATE EVIL: I the LORD do all these things." Isaiah 45:7<br /><br />In fact, unique Satan was MADE without fear:<br /><br />"Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear." Job 41:33<br /><br />But Satan was MADE to be destroyed before all is said and done:<br /><br />"But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and DESTROYED, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and SHALL UTTERLY PERISH in their own corruption;" 2 Peter 2:12 (and read the context!)<br /><br />So what? Satan will ultimately cease to exist:<br /><br />"All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and NEVER SHALT THOU BE ANY MORE." Ezekiel 28:19 (and read the context)<br /><br />Is Flurry still preaching, as HWA did, that spirit beings can't die? Read the Book! HWA said basically: "Don't believe me. Believe the Book!" Here is one reason the Book gives for Jesus Christ coming (and that phrase "The Second Coming" isn't in the Bible either):<br /><br />"Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;" Hebrews 2:14<br /><br />Oh, oh, there's Satan to be destroyed mentioned again! You know; slay the dragon...etc.!<br /><br />But you go on to say: "...So it is not inconceivable for God to use these highly flawed splinters to give a warning to the world..."<br /><br />What are these splinters? Your buddies? Is God so dumb and He would used all of them divisive splinters, calling them the "Churches of God," when He says He only has one Church? Okay, 7 congregations, 7 Churches...7 flavors of one Church.<br /><br />Are you turning a blind eye to the following verses?<br /><br />2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.<br />14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.<br />15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.<br /><br />Do you want to find those characters? Look into the splinters and you'll find them. And only God knows whether Philadelphia, United, xcog splinters, are awake or asleep? No, look at the fruit. It's all evil fruit, which did not come from a good tree. They have milk and tons of junk food and virtually no message...well, except for what you may consider to be some warning message.....and we see where that took us......nowhere! To nothing! Oh, boy, now I'm starting to think like an atheist! God forbid that!<br /><br />John<br /><br />to be con't<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-39115940855237159552017-03-21T06:46:33.039-07:002017-03-21T06:46:33.039-07:00A lot of people are leaving the PCG because they d...A lot of people are leaving the PCG because they don't agree with Flurry. I heard that a John Rambo, a teacher there is gone as well as Michael Dattolo.....Fred Dattolos son has left the church and his wife and kid. So aa other two families broken up over this....so sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-43779841129491733852017-03-21T03:15:58.318-07:002017-03-21T03:15:58.318-07:00Just awful. How terrible it is to contemplate that...Just awful. How terrible it is to contemplate that all the many problems that have occurred within PCG have all led to this: Gerald Flurry whining for a personal airplane and expecting his followers to pay for it. <br /><br />He wants PCG to burrow $9-11 million to buy the plane and spend $2 million per year maintaining it. PCG's yearly income was about $19.5 million in 2012 according to Gerald Flurry in a reprint of his Colossians booklet. This is a massive expenditure that he expects PCG lay members to pay for. What a disgrace! What a disgusting spectacle!Redfox712https://www.blogger.com/profile/17734930967002040931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-86138100561179762062017-03-20T23:35:29.428-07:002017-03-20T23:35:29.428-07:00John
Christ did refer to the coming 'the great...John<br />Christ did refer to the coming 'the great tribulation.'<br />Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.<br /> <br />The book of Revelation describes events unique in human history eg:<br /><br />Rev 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. <br />Rev 9:16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. <br /><br />In nature nothing is lost. Dead leaves becomes fertilizer. God likewise uses Satan and his demons to His advantage. God used a evil Balaam. So it is not inconceivable for God to use these highly flawed splinters to give a warning to the world. <br /><br />As far as your 'For what is being achieved both Philadelphia and United might as well as be asleep' and similar, God is the only one who knows the answer to that accurately. Everyone else is guessing. It's God who will decide if and when humanity has been adequately warned. Not Banned bloggers.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-89097742315967970902017-03-20T17:52:00.667-07:002017-03-20T17:52:00.667-07:00Anon 2:13 AM wrote: "In all fairness, it'...Anon 2:13 AM wrote: "In all fairness, it's only Flurrys Philadelphian church broadcasters and web site that's strongly warning of the coming tribulation. All the other slivers are asleep. UCG literature by contrast deliberately pulls its punches to make their message flat and weak. They are morally sick, and that's putting it mildly."<br /><br />Where is that "coming tribulation" Flurry's Philadelphian group warns us about? When is it coming? We've heard about "great tribulation" for decades: where is it?<br /><br />And the phrase "The Great Tribulation" can't be found anywhere in the Bible.<br /><br />Jesus Christ spoke of tribulation:<br /><br />John 16:33 "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have TRIBULATION: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."<br /><br />Well, that should to some degree cover the past approximately 1990 years. How does Flurry's "coming tribulation" fit into that?<br /><br />In a sense, ever since the days of Adam and Eve, especially after their minds were infected/infested by Satan's spirit, it appears all humanity has been under tribulation. It almost appears like the 4 horsemen of Revelation have been riding since those days too.<br /><br />So, to what avail is Flurry's "coming tribulation"? What means it? What are those strong warnings worth? This has been going on for decades!!!!!!!!!<br /><br />And United Ass. literature? What's that? Just more insipid warnings that seem to mean absolutely nothing.<br /><br />Both Philadelphia and United are man-made groups or organizations. So what? Yes, they both need that $mammon$ to sustain whatever they think they're doing.<br /><br />What means it all? For what is being achieved both Philadelphia and United might as well as be asleep. Neither one appears to be awake, alert or even aware of what is going on. Do we need more decades of the same old things from them?<br /><br />So far, nothing really worth getting excited over! Unless extorting that $mammon$ means so much...<br /><br />Time will tell......<br /><br />JohnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-83415336092218515632017-03-20T12:56:06.592-07:002017-03-20T12:56:06.592-07:00BB
Kelly Marshalls online review of 'Mystery ...BB <br />Kelly Marshalls online review of 'Mystery of the ages' points out that there are only three small paragraphs in the book on Christ's sacrifice for our sins. In the book, Herbie runs down everyone (education, science, traditional Christianity etc) in order to exalt himself. He's a master of straw man arguments. This extended to minimising Christ. Come to think of it, Christ's name was not often mentioned in church services at all. HWAs name was mentioned more often than Christ's.<br /><br />That Tkach was the real traitor in the church is debatable. Tkach brought consistency into the church, which is a law of nature. The church lost much of its truth due to Herbs playing moral games. Tkach is the effect, the cause is Herbie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com