tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post6872284209135350798..comments2024-03-28T16:50:44.944-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: COG Chief Pharisee Claims Mother's Day Pagan Fertility FestivalNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-45262086819497648322017-05-15T11:05:00.202-07:002017-05-15T11:05:00.202-07:00Armstrongism's preoccupation with the Old Cove...Armstrongism's preoccupation with the Old Covenant fostered a lot of wild speculation based both on the customs of the Israelites, and those of their pagan neighbors, as if one day all that we consider modern and contemporary would be wiped out. Teachers of Bible classes at AC would speculate that in the millennium we'd all return to wearing robes, marriages would be arranged by parents, that we'd all be speaking Hebrew (God's perfect language), and other ridiculous things. So it is no wonder that we see minor figures in Armstrongism, like Bob Thiel, James Malm, and Dave Pack making totally unwarranted speculations. It's their attempt to distinguish themselves.<br /><br />They assume the worst in prophecy. They envision a return to the bronze era as a utopian millennium. Everything today is pagan. Zero tolerance "my way or the highway" governance. All the "important" people in the Bible were white. The high side of natural cycles are God's blessings, and the low sides are God's punishment. Everything in the Bible is always literal, and serves as a rock-solid basis for legalism. The Pharisees were actually right, their sin being that they were hypocrites. When Jesus returns, He's going to install Armstrongism as God's government for ever and ever and ever.<br /><br />What could possibly go wrong with all of that?<br /><br />BB<br /><br /><br />Byker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-50277132225129770082017-05-15T10:56:28.140-07:002017-05-15T10:56:28.140-07:00James Malm is an idiot and a liar. Julia Ward How...James Malm is an idiot and a liar. Julia Ward Howe (Battle Hymn of the Republic) is the one who started the idea of Mothers Day with this proclamation:<br /><br /> Julia Ward Howe: Mother's Day and Peace<br /><br />Arise then...women of this day!<br /><br /><br />Arise, all women who have hearts!<br />Whether your baptism be of water or of tears!<br />Say firmly:<br /><br />"We will not have questions answered by irrelevant agencies,<br />Our husbands will not come to us, reeking with carnage,<br />For caresses and applause.<br />Our sons shall not be taken from us to unlearn<br />All that we have been able to teach them of charity, mercy and patience.<br />We, the women of one country,<br />Will be too tender of those of another country<br />To allow our sons to be trained to injure theirs."<br /><br />From the bosom of a devastated Earth a voice goes up with<br />Our own. It says: "Disarm! Disarm!<br />The sword of murder is not the balance of justice."<br />Blood does not wipe out dishonor,<br />Nor violence indicate possession.<br />As men have often forsaken the plough and the anvil<br />At the summons of war,<br />Let women now leave all that may be left of home<br />For a great and earnest day of counsel.<br />Let them meet first, as women, to bewail and commemorate the dead.<br /><br /><br />Let them solemnly take counsel with each other as to the means<br />Whereby the great human family can live in peace...<br />Each bearing after his own time the sacred impress, not of Caesar,<br />But of God -<br /><br />In the name of womanhood and humanity, I earnestly ask<br />That a general congress of women without limit of nationality,<br />May be appointed and held at someplace deemed most convenient<br />And the earliest period consistent with its objects,<br />To promote the alliance of the different nationalities,<br />The amicable settlement of international questions,<br />The great and general interests of peace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-49168376164958116242017-05-15T00:26:41.463-07:002017-05-15T00:26:41.463-07:00Just for the record.
I don't think HWA condemn...Just for the record.<br />I don't think HWA condemned mothers day. And he took his mother on her first plane ride in 1947 or so. I like that thought. This was at about the time my great grandmother would wave at queens and kings on television, since returning the favor would be the polite thing to do.<br /><br />Time is a great eraser indeed and technology also.<br /><br />Most have forgotten how dependent we were on knowledge of the cycles, fertility, farming, the joy of the first wave sheaf etc. Milk does not come from packages with missing children. <br /><br />Speaking of children's images. They might just represent the pagan worship of our former valued pension funds. Nowadays they are just a nuisance who hate you when you take their I pad away. So far the joys of fertility.<br /><br />ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-61845790504330928092017-05-14T16:58:08.395-07:002017-05-14T16:58:08.395-07:00Hislop saw origins where at best there was coincid...Hislop saw origins where at best there was coincidence. Avid fan of Hislop that he was, HWA schooled the entire WCG in the Hislop "research" method.<br /><br />Fact is, pick a day, any day. If you go back far enough, you will find something in paganism that coincides with your chosen day. It is improper logic to conclude that what the pagans did on that day is the origin of what we might do on that day today. Time is a great eraser.<br /><br />What person (with the exception of a cult zombie) is going to be thinking of Semirammis and fertility rites as they take their mom to brunch today?<br /><br />BTW, HWA never allowed anything of importance to happen on Sunday. He felt there was always a built in paganism factor on that day, which is what influenced his Pentecost Monday doctrine.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-51074146602951687482017-05-14T14:35:17.860-07:002017-05-14T14:35:17.860-07:00Eeeew 7:12
Girls don't poop and second now I ...Eeeew 7:12<br /><br />Girls don't poop and second now I have a mental picture of my parents as "fertile people."<br /><br />The day is spoilt for me.<br /><br /><br /><br />Btw I hope y'all reading, if possible at all, took the opportunity to spoil your mothers.<br /><br />Ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-65815972750777978682017-05-14T08:20:33.402-07:002017-05-14T08:20:33.402-07:00Well , it definitely can be said that Malm himself...Well , it definitely can be said that Malm himself is a "Mother" !!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910856904624749641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-64201382568420522882017-05-14T07:36:31.141-07:002017-05-14T07:36:31.141-07:00Anonymous said...
Could it be that the Hebrew holy...Anonymous said...<br />Could it be that the Hebrew holy days had pagan origins?<br /><br />Yes. <a href="https://hwarmstrong.com/ambassador.report/AncientIsraeliteFestivals/index.html" rel="nofollow">The Holy Days are pagan.</a>The Painful Truthhttp://hwarmstrong.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-72195539577314583102017-05-14T07:12:27.149-07:002017-05-14T07:12:27.149-07:00Could it be that the Hebrew holy days had pagan or...Could it be that the Hebrew holy days had pagan origins? Cultures that pre-dated the O.T. kept holidays that celebrated the agricultural harvest and fertility at pretty much the same times of the year as the Hebrew holy days.<br /><br />Maybe we need to get away from legalism and regarding days as holy. Instead we need to treat each other as special, with more love and respect. Who cares if mothers day has pagan origins? The concept of honoring our mothers is a good thing. So what if it has origins that where fertility rites. Fertility is not a bad concept. We wouldn't be here if our parents where not fertile. LOL!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-21757923483919368102017-05-14T06:20:01.467-07:002017-05-14T06:20:01.467-07:00What's wrong with the thinking of men like thi...What's wrong with the thinking of men like this?<br /><br />Maybe ? <br /><br />http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/study-finds-link-between-brain-damage-and-religious-fundamentalism/DennisCDiehlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10417850852638492246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-6133668629985383652017-05-14T05:59:34.477-07:002017-05-14T05:59:34.477-07:00Saturday was a day in which the God Saturn was wor...Saturday was a day in which the God Saturn was worshiped, thus Saturday must be pagan and should not be kept by Christians. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-44038299851744877762017-05-14T05:32:06.725-07:002017-05-14T05:32:06.725-07:00Honoring [the holy days] on [their] one day is als...Honoring [the holy days] on [their] one day is also a distraction from honoring them at ALL times as God has commanded. Too many give a [holy day offering] and think their duty done for the year. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-70961948597485181382017-05-14T05:31:33.792-07:002017-05-14T05:31:33.792-07:00In addition to the Sabbath and Holy Days, there ar...In addition to the Sabbath and Holy Days, there are all number of Jewish days meant to honor something. The same logic that was applied to Mother's Day could be applied to any of them.<br />Anna Jarvis, the West Virginian who started Mother's Day in 1908, wanted only a handwritten letter to be given as a gift. <br />And to "honor" parents primarily meant to support them in their old age or in time of need. Jesus made a point of this when he said how some traditions overturned this -- essentially, to give your money to "the church" instead of your parents when they were in need of it is wrong... regardless of the "no contact" rule.Hosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13285219921252563944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-39207577305847949182017-05-14T01:00:35.717-07:002017-05-14T01:00:35.717-07:00Here's another guy with far too much time on h...Here's another guy with far too much time on his hands, and he uses that time to play mud pies. <br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.com