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News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Breaking: Rod Meredith Cancer Diagnosis: TerminalNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-3939725915857376462017-05-27T20:07:43.088-07:002017-05-27T20:07:43.088-07:00May everyone who has watched and heard his message...May everyone who has watched and heard his messages be comforted. <br /><br />Isaiah 55 verse 11 So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth; It will not return to Me empty, Without accomplishing what I desire, And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it.<br /><br />Rest in PeaceDora Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16671964243581165522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-41981776959373606012017-05-19T17:52:29.442-07:002017-05-19T17:52:29.442-07:00He would sit in Church looking straight ahead.He would sit in Church looking straight ahead.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17783738168331819792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-78579628239473337212017-02-21T03:54:48.281-08:002017-02-21T03:54:48.281-08:00Just to offer another perspective! Wouldn't th...Just to offer another perspective! Wouldn't this be the first time in decades that the leader and figurehead of the corporation is NOT the actual owner? I am expecting a different dynamics in this scenario. Much different from the Tkachian scenario. But hey, still an interesting case for professionals to study. Ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-45684377574772763912017-02-20T22:42:07.799-08:002017-02-20T22:42:07.799-08:00My impression is that UCG and COGWA have been snif...My impression is that UCG and COGWA have been sniffing around LCG wondering the posibilities of the aftermath of Rod Meredith passing for years. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-55371482469702454532017-02-20T12:21:24.680-08:002017-02-20T12:21:24.680-08:00Where is Don Davis in all of this? Davis was righ...Where is Don Davis in all of this? Davis was right by RCM's side in founding Global and Living, before he fell afoul of RCM for being too conservative at a time when RCM was trying to bring in more ex-Worldwiders. Did the pedophilia stories sideline Davis permanently, or is he likely to have a resurgence in a conservative Weston administration? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-72661948647980163092017-02-20T12:17:48.765-08:002017-02-20T12:17:48.765-08:00Anonymous 3:45 PM, you are right. Speaking of whi...Anonymous 3:45 PM, you are right. Speaking of which, LCG has several "no win" choices soon ahead. Look at how their past publications have memorialized the deceased John Ogwyn, Carl McNair, Dibar Apartian, Bruce Tyler and others. If LCG doesn't do <b>at least</b> as much for Meredith, they'll lose the RCM faithful, but if they <b>do</b> go out of their way to sugarcoat and praise Meredith, this will only draw attention to how mediocre Gerald Weston is by comparison to Meredith. <br /><br />LCG will press the line, "Meredith appointed Weston, so true Christians had better support Weston." Members, however, will remember that HWA appointed Tkach, so they will be quick to judge Weston by his fruits, and will be unafraid to go elsewhere in a split. <br /><br />The mystery is: who will split first? Winnail's approach has shaped most of the ministers who have been ordained in LCG in the last ten years. He has emphasized very different qualities than Carl McNair or Charles Bryce emphasized. If Weston "clarifies" Winnail's silly and heretical "doctrinal upgrade" about the falling away, will Winnail move to UCG (COGWA won't have him, and has released sermons refuting Winnail's new understanding), or will he start his own new group? Or, will Weston double down and support Winnail's teaching, and drive members to the more doctrinally sound COGWA? <br /><br />Ames is too old to start a split, or to be useful in another group after promoting his "marriage supper in heaven" doctrinal upgrade. He is very political, though, and can be counted on to uphold the party line for as long as possible, as he did while staying in WCG for five years after Meredith founded Global.<br /><br />It's unlikely that LCG will lose many members or ministers to Flurry or Pack. UCG and COGWA, however, could be in for some growth if they approach the post-Meredith era wisely.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-78360376293023533192017-02-20T10:41:14.658-08:002017-02-20T10:41:14.658-08:00For years, I've heard about RCM's "un...For years, I've heard about RCM's "unedited sermons" in Charlotte. Honestly, theyre like a myth. I've heard about them, but I've never found a single one on the Internet or elsewhere. Quite frankly, I'm serioulsy starting to doubt their very existence… until I can really listen to one of them. I'd be glad if someone could provide me such links. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-23554810194571169972017-02-18T18:10:50.961-08:002017-02-18T18:10:50.961-08:00Meredith has lived on the gravy train of other peo...Meredith has lived on the gravy train of other people's money for decades, and granted the things he has said/done/caused/ordered others to do/etc, I can wish nothing more than for him to die like a commoner - broke in a seedy nursing home surrounded by the folks he called "demon-possessed" and the overworked staff who deal with them. Preferably with his mind intact and no drugs, because drugs are pagan poison.RSKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-47436563825312024462017-02-18T15:45:26.384-08:002017-02-18T15:45:26.384-08:00LCG is going to be a confused mess after Meredith ...LCG is going to be a confused mess after Meredith dies.<br /><br />Look at what they are preaching in Canada!<br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=441N3YxVCoA" rel="nofollow">Is Tradition Important?</a><br /><br />Here's an LCG minister using the teachings of Confucius as an example of the beneficial preservation of old traditions, yet he can't stand the idea of Canada absorbing the teachings of Confucius into its own culture, which he wants to remain white! He insists that it's a bad thing to reject tradition, yet he wants his listeners to reject many centuries of Christian traditions in favor of those of his cult. <br /><br />Does LCG have a doctrinal review committee like UCG has? Or is it every minister for himself? With confused messages like they are now teaching, LCG is sure to flounder after the unifying factor of Meredith is gone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-76542823479747531562017-02-18T14:22:25.893-08:002017-02-18T14:22:25.893-08:00Looks like Spanky missed his true calling; he shou...Looks like Spanky missed his true calling; he should have lead the Westboro Baptist Church- they would have canonized him a saint the moment he took his last breath.<br /><br />*Saint Roderick of Iron*<br /><br />Ronco<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-67202662199473968602017-02-18T14:06:21.912-08:002017-02-18T14:06:21.912-08:00"It is nice to know that many contributing me..."<i>It is nice to know that many contributing members of this blog have a merciful and loving heart. Many of you need to look deep down and see where your thoughts are coming from. We may not agree with people, but when it is death and life, I sure am glad there are people that love mercy and love and do not want suffering and say unkind things.</i>"<br /><br />"<i>Thank you to the blog members whose comments are merciful. For some of the others, it might be a good time to look deep down and see where your comments are coming from .... is it helpful, is it loving? I understand, perhaps decisions have been made not to your liking, but every person living on this earth is very valuable to God.</i>"<br /><br />Regardless of whether contributors to this blog are judged by you to have "merciful" and "loving" heart, or whether their comments are judged by you to be either "loving" or "helpful," unfortunately, looking back on the course of RCM's life, he has never been known for his "merciful" or "loving" heart, nor has he ever been known for his "helpfulness."<br /><br />While I can understand your pleading that RCM ought be treated far, far better than he has treated others, and likewise your contention that everyone "is very valuable to 'god,'" unfortunately, both of these claims are rejected by the bible:<br /><br />Galatians 6:7 <i>...A man reaps what he sows.</i><br /><br />RCM therefore, according to the bible, ought to reap what he has sown.<br /><br />Matthew 25:41 <i>Then He will also say to those on His left, "Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels."</i><br /><br />So, apparently, not <i>everyone</i> is valuable to "god." Some are trash.<br /><br />Where are my comments coming from? Um, from the bible. Sorry about that...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-43301063845788567162017-02-18T13:54:20.379-08:002017-02-18T13:54:20.379-08:00I've associated some of the characters in Dyla...I've associated some of the characters in Dylan's "Desolation Row" with the leaders of the Armstrong movement. Years ago, when GTA passed on, I posted the verses which appeared to have some profound connections to him:<br /><br />"Across the street, they've nailed the curtains, they're getting ready for the feast.<br />The Phantom of the Opera in a perfect image of a priest.<br />They are spoon-feeding Casanova to get him to feel more assured.<br />Then they'll kill him with self-confidence after poisoning him with words.<br />And the Phantom's shouting to skinny girls, "Get outta here if you don't know"<br />Casanova is just being punished for going to Desolation Row."<br /><br />Back in 1995, the Fort Wayne Indiana Journal Gazette published an article showing that if you started the movie "Wizard of Oz" with the sound turned down, at the same time that you started Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon", there was a distinct synchronicity between the events in the film and the events in the album. <br /><br />One sabbath around 1975, right before I left, was listening to Dylan's "Desolation Row" on the way to the AC Gym for services. It occured to me that Dylan, in his own surreal way had created a synchronicity with Armstongism. As is explained in the final verse, names were changed, but over the years, I've found leaders, members, events, and students vividly portrayed in the words of the song. HWA (Phantom of the Opera), GTA (Casanova), Heman Hoeh (Einstein disguised as Robin Hood), AC co-ed, or typical church lady (Ophelia), revisionists, the sinking movement, the purge, it's all there if you use just a small amount of imagination!<br />There's a verse which appears to apply to Rod, too.<br /><br />All a person can think is that it's just so good to be free! So far as theme songs for leaving go, it'd be hard to find one better than Desolation Row!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-45995929590574922792017-02-18T11:06:49.257-08:002017-02-18T11:06:49.257-08:00The Bible is sparse, measured, and even cryptic in...The Bible is sparse, measured, and even cryptic in its descriptives of sexual activities. Rod violated this polite or socially acceptable (God-ordained?) mode of description, and actually placed warping, graphic images of things in peoples' heads that they probably did not want. He could not teach a class or preach a sermon without making some sort of reference to these topics. Somehow, there was a steady stream of T.M.I. which consistently spilled out. How many of us, if someone were so blatant as to speak in this manner in front of our wives or children, would not 1) leave, 2) confront and perhaps punch out such an individual, and/or 3) avoid all contact with that person in the future?<br /><br />But, you couldn't. It was done under the guise of "God's True Church", attendance mandatory. I've never even heard gang bikers get so graphic!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-20986644700702392152017-02-18T10:59:05.751-08:002017-02-18T10:59:05.751-08:00Anonymous said...
Yeah we should all show Rod... Anonymous said...<br /><br /> Yeah we should all show Rod "love and mercy" just like he's shown so many over the years...<br /><br /> Rod Meredith doesn't have a merciful bone in his body! <br /><br /><br />Uh, oh! Sounds like Jesus is gonna return and kick Roderick C Meredith in the nuts over and over again til Rod is rolling on the floor in agony.<br /><br />Go, Jesus! Keep on kicking Rod's balls! Even after he's dead! Yeeeee-ha!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-90327230871442972792017-02-18T10:49:03.021-08:002017-02-18T10:49:03.021-08:00It's sad that his cancer is terminal, but even...It's sad that his cancer is terminal, but even more sad is the fact that his belief in HWA's garbage was terminal.<br /><br />When my father met with Rod during a Feast and Rod literally laughed about his wife's cancer to my dad, - calling it "only a skin condition" [a condition that shortly thereafter caused Margie's death] he realized that Rod was severely fucked up in the head.<br /><br />Rod was quite the total asshole- and something HWA would have been proud of!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-20340629880739942062017-02-18T09:34:10.374-08:002017-02-18T09:34:10.374-08:00Something is wrong with a man who has to watch int...<i>Something is wrong with a man who has to watch internet videos of lesbians, gay men and acts of bestiality with his wife so that he can "learn" about how far society has progressed in the wrong direction.</i><br /><br />Yes, but no one has found kiddie porn on his computer yet, and that's something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-33921893252262265852017-02-18T07:54:59.408-08:002017-02-18T07:54:59.408-08:00@ Anon 6:00 (Always remember that the laws in the ...@ Anon 6:00 (Always remember that the laws in the Bible that forbid such things as bestiality, homosexuality, transvestitism, and tattoos came from God)<br /><br />No one is refuting that the Bible states that these things are against the law of God. No one has a problem with the reading of those scriptures or commenting on the state of those things in relation to prophecy, etc. You've missed the point entirely.<br /><br />If you are in LCG but NOT in Charlotte, most (certainly not all) of Rod Meredith's crazy sex rants get edited out. So maybe, in your world, he's within the confines of "normal" when it comes to his opinions and statements about homosexuality.<br /><br />My experience, having been subjected to both his personal (in-private rants) AND his disgusting sermon rants year after year is different than your "edited version" of RCM.<br /><br />He is obsessed with homosexuality to an unnatural point. It consumes him. He has gone into detail during sermons (as I sit there in horror with my children sitting next to me) about the use of a man's anus to satisfy another man's lust. He's gone into detail about how promiscuous gays are and he's detailed the kinds of things that go on in gay societies and gay clubs. <br /><br />Perhaps men can have discussions such as that privately (and I'm personally not even comfortable with that) but it is utterly inappropriate in a room full of women, children and teens. <br /><br />Something is wrong with a man who has to watch internet videos of lesbians, gay men and acts of bestiality with his wife so that he can "learn" about how far society has progressed in the wrong direction.<br /><br />Something is even more wrong with a man that doesn't keep that kind of perverted internet activity a shameful secret but rather shares it with a room full of 200 people openly.<br /><br />But please, make excuses for him in your LCG brainwashed brain and keep telling yourself that it's all in service to God if it helps you get by.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-68407351694069613572017-02-18T06:02:01.647-08:002017-02-18T06:02:01.647-08:00Being that I do not know any tattooed bestialiciou...Being that I do not know any tattooed bestialicious gay transvestites, I have a difficult time getting worked up over that and then proceeding to blur the lines between Rod and God. I might as well be decrying the evil of fairy Bigfoot dragon hybrids, since I do not personally know any of those either.<br /><br />But I do know a lot of men who cut their hair short at the temples and even go so far as to trim their beards in defiance of GOD'S LAW. Stone them, stone them!RSKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13014783319588612022017-02-18T05:46:54.982-08:002017-02-18T05:46:54.982-08:00Black Ops Mikey said...
My heart goes out in mercy...<br />Black Ops Mikey said...<br />My heart goes out in mercy for all those at this time who were victims of Roderick Meredith.<br /><br />Amen to that brother!<br /><br />I know were aren't supposed to rejoice when people die but when you have been a victim of abuse, it's a challenge to suppress your elation when your abuser bites the dust.<br /><br />I am one of the victims Rod Meredith has left in his wake. I will never be the same because of the abuse. I can't wait for him to be gone so he can't hurt anyone else. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-41953127648680671502017-02-18T05:43:48.406-08:002017-02-18T05:43:48.406-08:00Yeah we should all show Rod "love and mercy&q...Yeah we should all show Rod "love and mercy" just like he's shown so many over the years...<br /><br />Rod Meredith doesn't have a merciful bone in his body! <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-67196027322006728692017-02-18T05:42:01.210-08:002017-02-18T05:42:01.210-08:00Luke 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone ...Luke 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.<br /><br />MY COMMENT:<br />Think of how many people Rod has turned against God because of his vitriol, lies and harsh treatment of brethren. He should be scared to die. Death means he's out of time for repentance.<br /><br />For me, I was on fire for God's Word until my stent in LCG. I watched over and over as Rod Meredith treated people incredibly harshly. I listened to him preach about government and obedience - NOT to God but to Rod's own church government and authority. I listen to Rod put himself and his ministry in the place of the Intercessor as the "head of God's church on earth". I was subjected to his racist, homophobic rants week after week. <br /><br />I watched how LCG members can so easily turn their backs on people they have known for years just because they are no longer in the cult. They are among the most inhumane people I have ever encountered.<br /><br />The fruits of the Spirit are completely lacking.<br /><br />Rod Meredith and the Living Church of God extinguished that fire within me and within many others I have known.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-91387273835140744252017-02-18T05:28:34.949-08:002017-02-18T05:28:34.949-08:00Anon 2:5 said, "I didn't know the Nazis h...Anon 2:5 said, "I didn't know the Nazis had a "divorce and remarriage tirade". That's interesting. Marriages were a lot better then, even in Nazi Germany. The whole of Western society was less degenerate than we are today. Does anyone have any facts about this or is it just a made-up accusation based on the idea that if something is bad the Nazis must have done it."<br /><br />Please research the Nazi's "Final Solution". They had a counsel that arbitrarily decided what marriages/children were okay and which were not. They developed a series of questions to make they evil determinations including, not only, who your grandparents were but if you had inherited certain physical characteristics. So if you had the same percentage of Jew genetics but you had blond hair and blue eyes, you might live whilst someone with the exact same genetics but more stereotypical "Jewish" looks would be sent to die.<br /><br />It's a fair metaphor for Rod's D&R policies (albeit grandiose). If you were connected/ ministry/ or a bootlicker your marriage was safe. But if you were just some plain Jane, you were forced to submit to Rod's will.<br /><br />Favoritism is a hallmark of Rod Meredith's evil reign.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-26272868225107974492017-02-18T04:13:00.748-08:002017-02-18T04:13:00.748-08:00Whether you believe these things are sinful or not...Whether you believe these things are sinful or not is besides the point. The fact is that most children were frightened from the pulpit where "sinners" (you can pick your pet sin here), were demonized and a described as a real physical threat. Children go through stages of development and being in a constant state of fear can wreck the process.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-55725686546907805422017-02-18T03:41:37.200-08:002017-02-18T03:41:37.200-08:00Black Ops Mikey said, "My heart goes out in m...Black Ops Mikey said, "<i>My heart goes out in mercy for all those at this time who were victims of Roderick Meredith.</i>"<br /><br />As one who was deceptively recruited into believing that God was with LCG back in 2000 and continued to believe many of the teachings of HWA and Meredith's LCG until 2008 I thank you for your compassionate comment.<br /><br />I first encountered LCG seeing an episode of LCG's recruitment broadcast, <i>Tomorrow's World</i>, hosted by Richard Ames. The second episode I saw was hosted by Meredith. Most people would have just ignored what they said as just another man's opinion. <br /><br />But somehow I was curious and intrigued at what they said and just a few months later I was convinced that LCG was the true church. I believed what they said for eight years until 2008 I finally woke up from their propaganda and realized that HWA's teachings are largely nonsense. HWA and his followers made many predictions that simply did not happen proving that they are false prophets. Many members have shared heart breaking stories of the negative effects of Armstronigsm on their lives and on their loved ones. There is no need for a Christian to join any of the Armstrongite COGs to be right with God.<br /><br />Redfox712https://www.blogger.com/profile/17734930967002040931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-17852865752288968052017-02-18T03:25:18.116-08:002017-02-18T03:25:18.116-08:00It was inevitable that he would pass away. He is 8...It was inevitable that he would pass away. He is 86 years old. <br /><br />It is very unfortunate that in his younger days he listened to this strange radio show with his uncle, C. Paul Meredith, and managed to be an early student of Ambassador College and got himself in the position of being one of HWA's first ministers and, as such, gaining vast power within HWA's organization and later being able to establish his own COG splinter group. <br /><br />His flaws are quite well known. Unfortunately he contributed to many problems within the Armstrongite movement. Since his ordination as one of HWA's first ministers in 1952 he has been in a position of authority within HWA's organization so most people in his organizations looked up to him so he had the power to influence people within HWA's organization for such a long time. <br /><br />While he has been able to have his needs well provided for, many of his followers have suffered from tithing and various oppressive practices that they were subjected to by the 1% of HWA's organization and its various splinter groups.<br /><br />If he had not taken that radio broadcast so seriously he wold not have had the negative influence that he has had over the years.Redfox712https://www.blogger.com/profile/17734930967002040931noreply@blogger.com