tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post7589913872661461951..comments2024-03-28T22:34:16.707-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Is This The Greatest Sex Book Ever Written, After The Bible?NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-39199985587561269042018-04-27T05:10:31.463-07:002018-04-27T05:10:31.463-07:00I've heard church people say that oral sex is ...I've heard church people say that oral sex is the same a sodomy.<br /><br />I've also heard them say you can't have sex on the Sabbath (something about "withholding your foot from your pleasure on the Sabbath").<br /><br />Then you have Rod Meredith shouting about anal sex and bestiality while my children sit listening in horror.<br /><br />Oh and let's not for get the GA minister who married his congregant even though she was the age of his granddaughter and in marriage counseling with him (funny how that divorce was church ordained).<br /><br />And then there are the pedophiles who have had LCG ministerial status and/or other jobs even though they are pervs.<br /><br />ACOGs have freakish sex issues but still find a way to look down on those "in the world".<br /><br />They are mentally ill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-81266831343483448952018-04-27T05:05:28.396-07:002018-04-27T05:05:28.396-07:00When I was in LCG I suffered through months of tor...When I was in LCG I suffered through months of torturous pre-marital "counseling".<br /><br />The minister made my fiancé and I read this book together as one of the requirements for the green light to marry.<br /><br />We were both grown-ass adults with children... but we were still forced to read it and give reports of comprehension.<br /><br />Now that I am free of Armstrongism, I look back on stuff like that and wonder where my brain was. SMHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-5575979824045046072018-04-24T06:35:56.575-07:002018-04-24T06:35:56.575-07:00Interesting book by HWA.
Hope GRF does not edit...<br /><br />Interesting book by HWA. <br /><br />Hope GRF does not edit it, change it, and <i>screw it up</i> too badly.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-91046684477247368582018-04-21T23:44:44.176-07:002018-04-21T23:44:44.176-07:00Armstrongism. micromanaging people's sex lives...Armstrongism. micromanaging people's sex lives and sexuality since 1933.Sane Conhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17941105651992924215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-5315145180789712672018-04-21T21:04:10.589-07:002018-04-21T21:04:10.589-07:00Anon April 21 at 6;25 PM asks, "Are we going ...Anon April 21 at 6;25 PM asks, "Are we going back to sex-worship and Masonry?"<br /><br />At first I couldn't understand why you would connect sex-worship and masonry. Then it dawned on me that you were thinking of the simile about a shapely woman: "She's built like a brick shit-house." <br />Retired Profnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-3430584059185702872018-04-21T21:02:29.069-07:002018-04-21T21:02:29.069-07:00Who is obsessed? I guess it’s almost intuitive th...Who is obsessed? I guess it’s almost intuitive that if anyone would be obsessed, it would be a biker, right? But as you might have noticed, this is my first comment on this thread. <br /><br />Studies have shown that as a group, fundamentalists are generally obsessed with sex, because of all their restrictions and taboos. Forbidden fruit and all that. For the rest of us, it’s a normal part of life, for the purposes of procreation and recreation.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-47195128535679128992018-04-21T20:04:41.422-07:002018-04-21T20:04:41.422-07:00Why are people obsessed with sex? Is it the new G...Why are people obsessed with sex? Is it the new God? Are we going back to sex-worship and Masonry? <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-85257994365377397502018-04-21T18:25:59.143-07:002018-04-21T18:25:59.143-07:00And as far as that stupid illustration goes, I was...And as far as that stupid illustration goes, I was too young to understand it when I picked up the book as a young person and leafed through it. Since there was no "Front" image, just a cross-section side view, my innocent impression of the anatomy of the opposite gender was quite...... incorrect. Just another example of printing a little bit of truth, and leaving the rest for the imagination to fill in. Something Worldwide did really, really, really well. And I have some puns I would put in this comment too - but I don't want to overdo the double entendres. ;) <br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-66961568274272286282018-04-21T18:18:50.900-07:002018-04-21T18:18:50.900-07:00Herbert Armstrong said in one of the co-worker let...Herbert Armstrong said in one of the co-worker letters that the world would be, in his words, "FORCED" to keep the Feast, or face, what he called, "Severe Penalties". His view of "Government" was a dictatorship, and the Church was what, i believe, he viewed as the Army - the deliverers of a government's message, and the Law Enforcement of the Millennium. His militaristic views - which were always on full display (hence Pastor "General") - were in full view, even when it came to things as private and as personal as the bedroom. <br /><br />This, I believe, is why he was so adamant about the "Two approved positions" that a married couple is supposed to engage in. He viewed the church memberships as "privates" (no pun really intended) of his army, and subject to control even in the bedroom. He took the fun out of it, and brought his "soldiers" (church members) to "horizontal attention", I guess you could say, as one of the approved "positions" a church member (again, no pun intended) could engage in. <br /><br />I don't know how many sex lives he ruined with his rigid (this is too easy!) views on the subject. I can't imagine how many members of the church wanted to be more creative, but didn't have the balls to try anything different. I hope most people just kind of went along with it publicly, but behind closed doors, did whatever the heck they wanted to do, as it was only their business. <br /><br />I don't even want to know how Armstrong would have viewed adult "toys". My guess is, if the church knew, or it was talked about, it would certainly have been quite the "buzz" of the congregation. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13208348100239918822018-04-21T15:42:34.584-07:002018-04-21T15:42:34.584-07:00Belief at all costs in the face of facts is the ty...<i>Belief at all costs in the face of facts is the typical response of those who must maintain belief over reality.</i> <br /> <br />Some people just have to believe in the Bible. Some just have to believe in the establishment, or Dawkins, or some secular "religion" or guru of their own choosing. <br /> <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-76122567749226358452018-04-21T15:36:43.490-07:002018-04-21T15:36:43.490-07:00I have NEVER met a person, including Flurry, Pack,...<i>I have NEVER met a person, including Flurry, Pack, Weinland and all others, including those in my other religious experiences showed any evidence of a "Holy Spirit" in them different from anyone else.</i><br /><br />Not even a psychopath? Wow, that's pretty harsh. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-6199456162618560282018-04-21T13:31:31.714-07:002018-04-21T13:31:31.714-07:00I read "God Speaks Out..." as a junior a...I read "God Speaks Out..." as a junior at my worldly college in 1965 and found parts of it informative and helpful. A girlfriend passed it around to several friends in her dorm. In late 1976 I spent several nights in HWAs house in Bricket Wood where I was able to peruse the books in his library. One of the books was the book written by an MD that HWA had used as the source material for the technical explanations and illustrations found in God Speaks Out... Small world sometimes. Glennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11415271830212951268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-14833316183653798552018-04-21T09:26:56.127-07:002018-04-21T09:26:56.127-07:00I never knew the WCG had such ludicrous books as ...I never knew the WCG had such ludicrous books as this one. Thank God I only attend 2 church services in that cult back in 2003.Born Again Christiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-54286563840611100702018-04-21T09:19:28.109-07:002018-04-21T09:19:28.109-07:00I can't wait for Bob Thiel to write his won bo...I can't wait for Bob Thiel to write his won book about sex. The only position not allowed will be the missionary position because it has Catholic connotations. All other positions must be crooked, in some way or another. The male must have a big thick voluminous...um...Bible in his hands at all times waving it heavenward at the moment of ecstasy. Nocturnal emissions will not be allowed because the prophet himself is the only one allowed to dream wild dreams.I served Bob Thiel pork while in LCGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-32170576170699128442018-04-21T09:01:48.085-07:002018-04-21T09:01:48.085-07:00Missing Dimension illustration ..."Contact wi...Missing Dimension illustration ..."Contact with Clitoris, must be made at this point" <br /><br />LOL! <br /><br />After seeing this bizarre book and illustration, , my comment is "Contact with this book and organization producing it must END at this point"! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910856904624749641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-51382886843652230322018-04-21T08:19:08.023-07:002018-04-21T08:19:08.023-07:00I guess HWA felt he was qualified to explain all a...I guess HWA felt he was qualified to explain all about sex since to the church sine he and son ser such a perfect example before the church. It is obvious HWA’s family was dysfunctional. Herbert said his wife was cold and frigid. HWA raped his daughter. Ted was reported to have sex with anything wearing a skirt. So, yes, HWA was the one to explain the missing knowledge in sexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-35776941028835117962018-04-21T08:15:16.363-07:002018-04-21T08:15:16.363-07:00"Humans are not animals! We can be spirituall..."Humans are not animals! We can be spiritually begotten by receiving the Holy Spirit, and then spiritually born as sons of God! No animal or angel has such a potential!"<br /><br />The actual reality is that human beings are indeed animals who share a common ancestry, about 5 million years ago, with the Chimps, Orangs, Gorillas and Bonobos. They are our cousins, so let's not make fools of ourselves by saying "If I evolved from a chimp, how come there are Chimps around today." I had this pulled on me recently and when corrected the concept the person said , "Well, I just believe the Bible." That's the problem. Belief at all costs in the face of facts is the typical response of those who must maintain belief over reality. <br /><br />Flurry is wrong right out of the gate. No one can prove "we can be spiritually begotten to receiving the Holy Spirit." No one. It's theological idea and opinion based on nothing that can be proven to actually be true. In 50 years of religious perspectives, I have NEVER met a person, including Flurry, Pack, Weinland and all others, including those in my other religious experiences showed any evidence of a "Holy Spirit" in them different from anyone else. That is also a fact. Being then "born as sons of God" is also religious belief and unprovable save for having faith that it is so. I'd also add that I never have seen nor have met anyone who has a credible and provable angelic encounter. Angels also are theological constructs based on lots of evolved theological thought that few here would want to consider. Same for any Satan, Devil or Demiruge. <br /><br />Everything Flurry just said on this topic is patently false in reality and while I realize that reality does not appeal to those of faith and can get them throwing all sorts of insults and defensive BS back at the source of what knocks the nose off their idols, "nevertheless, it is" so as Galileo is said to have mumbled at his trial capitulating for the moment to save himself from being burned at the stake by the church. <br /><br />Flurry's comments, as were HWA's are comments of faith issues and not factual. Personally I find facts to be incredibly intimidating and anger producing to those of faith , which I still maintain Hebrews 11 defines for us as "The substance of what we hope is so, based on absolutely no evidence." <br /><br />That is simply not good enough and ranks right up there with Paul saying the reason we need to all speak the same thing is so that there be no division among us." That is NOT any sane reason to speak the truth of anything. DennisCDiehlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10417850852638492246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-9597698903623387032018-04-21T07:59:46.632-07:002018-04-21T07:59:46.632-07:00If the followers of Flurry really knew what a perv...If the followers of Flurry really knew what a pervert HWA was he would have half the followers he has. The other half must be brain dead!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-31087509330287046662018-04-21T06:36:30.628-07:002018-04-21T06:36:30.628-07:00It's a typo. It should read "The Missing...It's a typo. It should read "The Missing Dementia in Sex"DennisCDiehlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10417850852638492246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-44089692586462107662018-04-21T06:10:29.782-07:002018-04-21T06:10:29.782-07:00I can honestly say that I have never read that boo...I can honestly say that I have never read that book. Ghost Writernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-3415348637403794522018-04-21T06:03:31.391-07:002018-04-21T06:03:31.391-07:00The answer to that question (Is This The Greatest ...The answer to that question (Is This The Greatest Sex Book Ever Written, After The Bible?) is NO! The fact that anyone would regard a book about sex which was largely authored by an incestuous pedophile as being one of the greatest books ever written is grotesque.<br /><br />Not to mention the fact that this book applauded and perpetuated the traditional Christian view of sex - A twisted and failed perspective on the subject which has only brought misery and heartache for those who have ATTEMPTED to adhere to those tenets (no one has EVER succeeded in living up to those standards because it's impossible to do so). For a group that rejected almost every other tradition of the Christian religion, it has always seemed a little ironic to me that folks within the Armstrong orbit have always embraced that perspective on sex (with the addendum of becoming God). If Satan has deceived the Christian world on things like the proper day for worship and the nature of God, wouldn't it be rational to suppose that "he" may have hoodwinked them about sex?<br /><br />As for the Bible (the book which HWA and his followers claim as their source), while Gerald Flurry may not be familiar with them and/or like them, alternative interpretation/explanations of its sexual content have been proposed and defended - The Armstrong and traditional Christian views are not the only games in town. For many of those of us who continue to have a high regard for the Judeo-Christian Scriptures and attempt to live by the principles espoused in its pages, there is no shame associated with our bodies and sex was designed to be an expression of joy, fulfillment and love between two people. The Bible I read (and I'm talking about the exact same book that Gerald reads) celebrates the sex act, doesn't make sexual attraction bad or evil, doesn't require a license or minister's blessing to engage in sex, requires reverence and mutual respect at all times, requires fidelity in all relationships and does not condemn individuals who are born with same sex attraction or relegate them to a life of shame and loneliness.<br /><br />Mr. Armstrong's original book (God Speaks Out on the New Morality) and the booklet it subsequently inspired (The Missing Dimension in Sex) should not be considered inspired or great by ANYONE. In fact, they are both worthless pieces of garbage which have only served to perpetuate Satan's perverted view of human sexuality!Miller Jones/Lonnie C Hendrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02865316200703641028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-32667765122506341492018-04-21T05:36:07.377-07:002018-04-21T05:36:07.377-07:00As Bob Thiel is venturing into dating and marriage...As Bob Thiel is venturing into dating and marriage, and wrote that he has four new books planned, I wonder if he will rewrite this classic tome? And will it have additional details that will make it even greater?Hosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13285219921252563944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-51811297876453837102018-04-21T05:20:59.114-07:002018-04-21T05:20:59.114-07:00A book for a little lite summer reading at night w...A book for a little lite summer reading at night when you have to spend the night alone. Hey, it makes for slightly good porn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-56703825257804165952018-04-21T04:40:38.017-07:002018-04-21T04:40:38.017-07:00With animals, reproduction is nothing more than re...<i>With animals, reproduction is nothing more than reproduction. </i><br /><br />Not true. There are at least <a href="https://gizmodo.com/9-animals-that-masturbate-other-than-humans-1723592357" rel="nofollow"><b>nine mammals other than humans</b></a> that masturbate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-50800553204848365752018-04-20T23:12:10.365-07:002018-04-20T23:12:10.365-07:00GTA used a Falcon Jet!
Sex to become Gods. Very Ta...GTA used a Falcon Jet!<br />Sex to become Gods. Very Tantra. Very Eastern and I am not talking New England but East of Eden.<br /><br />ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.com