tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post7749646199080074830..comments2024-03-28T14:49:35.135-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: LeviticusNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger85125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-82917587704224148902016-02-27T22:02:45.269-08:002016-02-27T22:02:45.269-08:00on February 27, 2016 at 3:22 PM
Anonymous wrote:
...on February 27, 2016 at 3:22 PM<br />Anonymous wrote:<br /><br />"Why do you blubbering COGers ignore that part of the instruction so that you can proceed to your smug diatribes? "<br /><br />I thought I answered to that topic previously in saying that I am not a young man as described in this particular passage "Mat 19:20 <b>The young man saith unto him</b>, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?" and can't see how this scripture would apply to me. I don't understand your 'beef'.<br /><br />In any case this instance , I believe, was to illustrate a facet of idolatry. Whilst the "young man" stated in Mat 19:20.... All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?" he worshiped his riches more than he worshiped Yehovah and was not prepared to change his allegiance.<br /><br />As an aside, I've been there done that and now my allegiance IS to Yehovah.<br /><br />By the way:<br />from Merriam_Webster: Main Entry: "1blub£ber<br />Pronunciation:*bl*-b*r<br />Function:verb <br />Inflected Form:blub£bered ; blub£ber£ing \*bl*-b(*-)ri*\ <br />Etymology:Middle English blubren to make a bubbling sound, from bluber<br />Date:15th century<br />intransitive senses : to weep noisily<br />transitive senses <br />1 : to swell, distort, or wet with weeping<br />2 : to utter while weeping"<br /><br />Whenever did you see or hear me "blubber?" If you don't agree with my comments, simple solution, don't read them. Unless you find them so compelling that you feel you have to respond in one way or another, even if is in a negative or insulting manner.<br /><br />cheers<br />ralph.fRalphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-12369949213072228052016-02-27T21:28:40.700-08:002016-02-27T21:28:40.700-08:00on February 27, 2016 at 4:31 PM
Anonymous wrote:...on February 27, 2016 at 4:31 PM <br />Anonymous wrote:<br /><br />"<b>The WCG under HWA taught</b> that the current weekly cycle began in Genesis 1:1-2:3 and that the weekly Sabbath begins at sunset at the end of the sixth day of the week, as that sunset comes to you wherever you are around the world."<br /><br />So, is that your opinion also?<br /><br />cheers<br />ralph.fRalphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-3259866789888822932016-02-27T19:57:35.976-08:002016-02-27T19:57:35.976-08:00Hippies rock! COG not so much.Hippies rock! COG not so much.Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-83360233055886785672016-02-27T18:57:06.000-08:002016-02-27T18:57:06.000-08:00Boy, somebody sure didn't like hippies! Basic...Boy, somebody sure didn't like hippies! Basically, they were just young people who were looking for new answers that they felt that conventional society could not provide. In that, they were not unlike the people whose personal odysseys landed them in <br />Armstrongism. The hippies just didn't see jingoism and phariseeism as solutions to the problems caused by human nature. If you were to read some of the materials written by people who were part of the movement, and perhaps purchased and listened to some Grateful Dead CDs, perhaps you would no longer hate. This is from someone who once hated hippies and everything they stood for. Clearly, they had their downside, but some of the attitudes and intentions they expressed were laudable and revolutionary. <br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-54360940248941457142016-02-27T17:18:55.065-08:002016-02-27T17:18:55.065-08:00Anonymous at February 27, 2016 at 11:47 AM said......<br /><i>Anonymous at February 27, 2016 at 11:47 AM said...<br /><br />“You complain that the SDA's cant keep the sabbath right and how they promote a hippie Jesus, yet you keep the bastardized sabbath that Armstrong taught you which has nothing of benefit for a new covenant Christian. In the new covenant, "rest" is not found sitting on your butt in a boring COG service for 2 1/2 hours listening to 150 bullet points. Rest is found in Jesus alone. Not in holy days, kosher food laws, sabbath keeping, or in a myriad of "holy" days the denigrate everything that Jesus taught or what the kingdom of God is currently bring to this world. Give me a hippie Jesus any day over the sickness that is the Church of God.”</i><br /><br /><br />I did <i>not</i> complain that the SDA's can't keep the Sabbath right, just that they are into Catholic idolatry. My complaint now is that you can't read.<br /><br />HWA taught that a lot of professing Christians seem to think that Jesus was some smart-alec young man who came to do away with his father's laws.<br /><br />If you ever try working seven days a week, like some people do in factories in China, be sure to come back here and let everyone know how restful that is. Maybe then you will understand why Jesus said that “the Sabbath was made <i>for</i> man” in Mark 2:27-28.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-23373722155320723262016-02-27T16:31:02.669-08:002016-02-27T16:31:02.669-08:00Ralph at 1:36 PM said...
“I think most of us kno...<br /><i>Ralph at 1:36 PM said... <br /><br />“I think most of us know that the weekly Sabbath begins at sunset on the 6th day of the week and ends at sundown on the following day, the 7th day of the week. However, do you have an opinion as to <b>WHERE the Sabbath BEGINS</b>”</i><br /><br /><br />The WCG under HWA taught that the current weekly cycle began in Genesis 1:1-2:3 and that the weekly Sabbath begins at sunset at the end of the sixth day of the week, as that sunset comes to you <b>wherever</b> you are around the world.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-21348104916971380642016-02-27T15:22:59.056-08:002016-02-27T15:22:59.056-08:00Ralph - back to Matthew 19. The young man said he ...Ralph - back to Matthew 19. The young man said he kept the commandments from his youth. Jesus did not refute his assertion but then told him to go sell all that he has for the sake of the poor.<br /><br />Why do you blubbering COGers ignore that part of the instruction so that you can proceed to your smug diatribes? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-48551405802162633352016-02-27T13:36:54.620-08:002016-02-27T13:36:54.620-08:00on February 27, 2016 at 11:25 AM
Anonymous wrote:...on February 27, 2016 at 11:25 AM <br />Anonymous wrote:<br /><br />"Just as the Protestants cannot see anything wrong with their Sunday keeping...."<br /><br />I think most of us know that the weekly Sabbath begins at sunset on the 6th day of the week and ends at sundown on the following day, the 7th day of the week.<br />However, do you have an opinion as to <b>WHERE the Sabbath BEGINS</b><br /><br />cheers<br />ralph.f.Ralphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-54143102932623036282016-02-27T13:15:36.514-08:002016-02-27T13:15:36.514-08:00on February 25, 2016 at 5:54 PM
Black Ops Mikey w...on February 25, 2016 at 5:54 PM <br />Black Ops Mikey wrote:<br /><br />".... there are other proofs that you can read about in A Foundation of Sand: The Lie of British Israelism."<br /><br />Well, Black Ops, I have logged into the 'flip book' "A Foundation Of Sand..." and begun reading it. I must say I do like this kind of presentation and have bookmarked it for further study. So far I have read up to page 12 and am starting to form the opinion that this is the publication of another 'naysayer'. There are plenty of those around. However I'll withhold final 'judgment' until I have studied the whole book.<br /><br />One negative point I have found is on page 12 which reads-quote: <br />"<b>Israel will keep the Sabbath (Exodus 31:13)</b><br />Fact. Aside from the Jews, what nations have kept the Old Testament, seventh day Sabbath? If anything, this verse is evidence against British Israelism, as Western Europeans have been predominantly Catholic and Protestant throughout their histories and therefore observant of Sunday as a day of religious worship."<br /><br />Exo 31:13 reads "Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you." <i>(AKJ)</i><br /><br />I understand this to be a commandment and not a prediction as the author seems to think. Problem was/is, the "British Israelites" didn't/don't keep it up which is one reason why, I believe, they/we are slowly but surely experiencing the 'curses' of Deut.28:15 today.<br /><br />An interesting quote is found at the top of page 2 of the book viz.<br />"However, the concept itself has been around <b>since the 2nd century BCE</b>"<br />Now that's a mighty long time for a concept to exist. <br /><br />cheers<br />ralph.fRalphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-29003633105746305232016-02-27T11:47:06.293-08:002016-02-27T11:47:06.293-08:00You complain that the SDA's cant keep the sabb...You complain that the SDA's cant keep the sabbath right and how they promote a hippie Jesus, yet you keep the bastardized sabbath that Armstrong taught you which has nothing of benefit for a new covenant Christian. In the new covenant, "rest" is not found sitting on your butt in a boring COG service for 2 1/2 hours listening to 150 bullet points. Rest is found in Jesus alone. Not in holy days, kosher food laws, sabbath keeping, or in a myriad of "holy" days the denigrate everything that Jesus taught or what the kingdom of God is currently bring to this world. Give me a hippie Jesus any day over the sickness that is the Church of God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-23011325364371630192016-02-27T11:31:51.188-08:002016-02-27T11:31:51.188-08:00back to February 26, 2016 at 8:37 PM
my "Tag...back to February 26, 2016 at 8:37 PM <br />my "Tags" failed.<br /><br />on February 26, 2016 at 6:17 <br /> Black Ops Mikey wrote:-<br /><br />"That's just the point -- <b>DNA doesn't change</b>. It's in every cell of every living thing. It is the blueprint for life.<br /><b>Studies have shown that DNA</b> -- particularly the Y-Chromosome -- <b>is stable over generations</b>,"<br /><br /><i>(Above bolding mine)</i><br />Hmmn! I guess most people know what the letters GMO represent. How do you suppose genetic engineering is accomplished?<br />With all due respect, examination of the content of the following links (copy and paste to your browser)<br />Found here:<br />http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/01/23/why-your-dna-isnt-your-destiny.aspx<br /><br />here:<br />http://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/dna-is-constantly-changing-through-the-process-6524898<br /><br />here:<br />http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/02/18/eating-wrong-plants-can-mess-dna-expression.aspx<br /><br />here:<br />https://www.my46.org/intro/how-does-dna-change<br /><br />and this 30 minute lively topical discussion:<br />https://prophecywatchers.com/videos/tom-horn-and-joe-ardis-inhuman/<br /><br />may give you reason for taking your theories back to the drawing board and reconsidering the whole matter.<br /><br />cheers<br />ralph.fRalphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-11688694001086229562016-02-27T11:25:00.648-08:002016-02-27T11:25:00.648-08:00
Here are some different opinions on which of the ...<br />Here are some different opinions on which of the TEN COMMANDMENTS to officially reject:<br /><br />The Catholic church is the largest church with idolatrous hippie pictures and Sunday keeping (and Sabbath breaking).<br /><br />Many Protestant churches reject idolatrous Catholic hippie pictures, but almost every one of them accepts Catholic Sunday keeping (and Sabbath breaking).<br /><br />The Seventh Day Adventist church twists differently. It observes the Sabbath and rejects Catholic Sunday keeping, but accepts idolatrous Catholic hippie pictures and tries to help spread them everywhere. The SDA view is that an idol is a golden calf, or possibly your car if you wash it, wax it, and like it too much. In fact, the SDAs think that anything could become an idol. Anything, that is, except the idolatrous Catholic hippie pictures that they feel compelled to put in all their magazines, books, calendars, and portraits on the wall. Just as the Protestants cannot see anything wrong with their Sunday keeping (and Sabbath breaking) that they got from the Catholics, so the SDAs cannot see anything wrong with their idolatrous Catholic hippie pictures that they got from the Catholics and feel an irresistible urge to spread everywhere.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-89018591781889442442016-02-27T10:51:47.953-08:002016-02-27T10:51:47.953-08:00Anonymous at February 25, 2016 at 9:00 AM said... ...<br /><i>Anonymous at February 25, 2016 at 9:00 AM said... <br /><br />“10:09 stated emphatically that Jesus did not have long hair. No one here has provided any proof of that, but instead only speculation and theory. I'm just suggesting that we should be careful with our declarations of things we clearly do not and cannot know.”<br /><br />“I couldn't care less whether paintings of Jesus portray him with long hair or not. If he had long hair, what difference would it make? Would it negate everything he said and did?”<br /><br />“Seriously, people need to get the blinders off. We don't know as much as we think we do. Ranting about hair length is one of the silliest, most unproductive things I've observed in more than five decades around the COG movement.”</i><br /><br /><br /><i>You</i> certainly do need to get <i>your</i> blinders off. Of course, <i>your</i> unconverted type cannot know anything, and won't care whether idolatrous Catholic paintings try to portray Jesus as having long hair. Since you obviously were not reading the Bible, just exactly what were <i>you</i> doing in those “more than five decades around the COG movement” anyway? Watching too much television? Smoking pot?<br /><br />A lot of sexually immoral hippies, obviously under the influence of idolatrous Catholic hippie pictures and illegal drugs, mistakenly thought that they were being like Jesus.<br /><br />In addition to all the other sins and perversions that Hollywood endorses and promotes, it is currently hard at work and play trying to promote <b>GENDER CONFUSION</b>. This devilishly silly idea is to try to make everyone dissatisfied with the way they were born. Boys are supposed to dress, groom, and act like girls, and girls are supposed to dress, groom, and act like boys. The idea is to confuse everybody until the boys don't “identify” with masculinity and want to use the girl's bathroom at school, and the girls don't “identify” with femininity and want to use the boy's bathroom at school. This is the real reason behind such a big, forceful push to get boys into such things as long hair, ear rings, and pink shirts, while the girls wear pants, have crew cuts, cuss, and smoke in their warped attempt at behaving like what they mistakenly think boys should be like. Meanwhile, both boys and girls are encouraged to cover themselves with tattoos and body piercings so their visible bodies can better openly reflect how totally messed up their minds really are. Their brains get further scrambled by the rotten lyrics set to noise that passes for modern music. If they are not careful, they could end up like Anonymous at 9:00 AM.<br /><br />One of the listed curses for disobedience to God's laws is “confusion of the mind.” If you ever thought that you were suffering from this just because you had difficulty making some little decision, just wait till you see the serious confusion of the mind and body of the people who really are under this curse.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-87359305439195408112016-02-27T09:50:00.156-08:002016-02-27T09:50:00.156-08:00BTW
I was really surprised to find out that peopl...BTW<br /><br />I was really surprised to find out that people on this blog seem to believe I make things up on hwa. Only until I realized that most here are probably 1974 dissenters. <br />For the record. I have made NOTHING up. But I have apologized for offending people on a blog dedicated to expose the fringe lunatic ideas of Armstrongism.<br /><br />nckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-36378894469471447592016-02-27T09:44:09.452-08:002016-02-27T09:44:09.452-08:005:35 anonymous
Centurions are mentioned several ...5:35 anonymous<br /><br /><br />Centurions are mentioned several times in the New Testament; however, the importance of that designation is usually not appreciated, either by expositors or other bible students. This is primarily because there is no equivalent in the modern military to the centurion. Centurion is not a rank, but rather a class within the military structure. Professor of Classical Studies Colin Wells writes of a continuum from the least senior centurion of a legion as being roughly equivalent to a modern major and the most senior to a one star or Brigadier General.<br /><br />Wells, Colin, The Roman Empire, Stanford University Press, Stanford, California, 1984<br />P.138<br /><br />Dear anonymous,<br />my purpose in this statement was to shed extra light on the EXEMPlary military man who deemed Peter worthy to command his persona.<br /><br />Now, I take issue with your comment that I make up "a lot".<br /><br />I challenge you to come up with only ONE or 1 or I thing I made up and I will answer that question for you.<br /><br />nck <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-61860769518885023602016-02-27T05:39:26.553-08:002016-02-27T05:39:26.553-08:00Ralph - yes, the doctrines on hair length are of u...Ralph - yes, the doctrines on hair length are of utmost importance in the COGs.<br />At what length past stubble does a beard become a beard that must be subjected to the law?<br />All Armstrongite men (and some women) need to know the answer to this life or death question.<br />I'm surprised there's no booklet on the topic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-54710713560730451402016-02-27T05:35:58.301-08:002016-02-27T05:35:58.301-08:00nck says that "Centurion was not a rank"...nck says that "Centurion was not a rank" but Wikipedia says "A centurion was a professional officer of the Roman army after the Marian reforms of 107 BC."<br /><br />nck seems to make up a lot of stuff on the fly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-15775570546716716512016-02-26T22:09:35.645-08:002016-02-26T22:09:35.645-08:00Martha dear,
Of couse I recognized your sincere e...Martha dear,<br /><br />Of couse I recognized your sincere effort of throwing pearls to swine.<br /><br />Because of the twofold blessing bestowed upon me by nyuck nyuck I managed to insert the word "zebralite" refering to <br />1) your comparisson of Israelites (the chosen ones) to Zebra's and 2) a Zebra lite referring to "a zebra of mixed origins"<br /><br />I do this stuff all the time in my show. Unfortunately I have to rent the hall myself and afterward see the video to at least claim an audience. So have some empathy please.<br /><br /><br />btw BB. <br />If such Hells Angel would come up to me I would get my slingshot and harp ready....<br />I read somewhere that in Roman times short hair for women and long for men would have been associated with prostitution though but I don't know. <br /><br />I'm more of a Cesarean Praetorian Guard interpreter who would not take orders from a drag.<br />The "hundred-man" meeting Peter in Cesarea was probably an Italian bloke. Commanding part of Cohors I or II Italica Civium Romanorum. The attachment "Civium Romanorum" probably indicates that the Syrian auxiliaries under his command had been granted Roman citizenship for exceptional bravery in action. Also a Centurion was not a rank but a designation for the senior officer amongst his equals because of his example to the troops.<br /><br />If we are to pay any respect to such a fine specimen in manlyhood, we should expect Peter to have looked like a man ....to his contemporaries. And yes ladies. True man should use deoderant.<br /><br /><br />nck<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-59595667511474114122016-02-26T21:11:26.583-08:002016-02-26T21:11:26.583-08:00on February 26, 2016 at 4:14 PM
Anonymous said......on February 26, 2016 at 4:14 PM<br /> Anonymous said...<br /><br />"Sure, your beard is just stubble if you shave almost daily but it's still your beard!"<br /><br />Sorry Anon, I don't consider a day's facial stubble as being a beard. However, to each his own and we all have the right to express an opinion.<br /><br />cheers<br />ralph.fRalphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-9357636800096433832016-02-26T20:44:17.466-08:002016-02-26T20:44:17.466-08:00on February 26, 2016 at 6:58 PM
Anonymous said...
...on February 26, 2016 at 6:58 PM<br />Anonymous said...<br /><br />"Oh Ralphie Boy - when will you learn you should not be quoting Matthew 19 until you sell all your possessions to give to the poor?"<br /><br />Mat 19:20 says:- "<b>The young man</b> saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up:..."<br /><br />Thanks for the compliment, whoever you are, I reached the age of 80 years last November and can't see how this passage applies to me.<br /><br />cheers<br />ralph.fRalphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13034605073817002262016-02-26T20:37:21.784-08:002016-02-26T20:37:21.784-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ralphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-8037717095316858202016-02-26T18:58:41.661-08:002016-02-26T18:58:41.661-08:00Oh Ralphie Boy - when will you learn you should no...Oh Ralphie Boy - when will you learn you should not be quoting Matthew 19 until you sell all your possessions to give to the poor?<br /><br />Armstronites have to really mangle the holy scriptures to construct their kooky doctrines. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-6499087344879729652016-02-26T18:12:17.645-08:002016-02-26T18:12:17.645-08:00You can blaspheme Christ here all you want and he ...You can blaspheme Christ here all you want and he still will not have long hair!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-90721898876190412042016-02-26T16:42:48.834-08:002016-02-26T16:42:48.834-08:00Well, just walk up to your local Hells Angel, or c...Well, just walk up to your local Hells Angel, or construction worker and dare to call him effeminate for his long hair. See how that works out for you. I've got no axe to grind here, because I've always been an oiler, and can't really handle long hair because after a day, it's all greasy.<br /><br />There is a big difference between a bearded guy with long hair who ties it into a pony tail, and a guy who dresses in drag with bouffant hair in order to attract gay studs. This is a glaring distinction that apparently Armstrongites are not able to comprehend. (Or they pretend they don't know)<br /><br />What a joke!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-28010740572634692532016-02-26T16:14:53.663-08:002016-02-26T16:14:53.663-08:00Pharisee Ralph - after quoting Lev 19:27, you said...Pharisee Ralph - after quoting Lev 19:27, you said:<br />"However I can't find any commandment that any man MUST grow a beard"<br /><br />WHat the ffffff... do you think you are cutting when your shave?<br /><br />You are cutting the corners of your beard, you blind Pharisee!<br />Sure, your beard is just stubble if you shave almost daily but it's still your beard!<br /><br />You have proven, once again, that you are an Armstrongite follower who cannot understand the Bible but, you get off on feeling like you speak, or type, as an authority!<br /><br />You will only interpret the law to be what you want to keep and will ignore what you're not interested in. <br /><br />You don't keep the law. Yet, Galatians 5:3 Paul tells you Judaizers that if you want to start down that road, you get no exemptions. I know how COG teaching botches that scripture but, try to take off your cult glasses and read it independently.<br /><br />Are you sure you are not an ex-COG ministurd?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com