tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post8165206351129069207..comments2024-03-28T04:23:41.363-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: HWA, Pyramidiology and British IsraelismNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-9773040306786183612011-04-05T10:14:32.969-07:002011-04-05T10:14:32.969-07:00I was talking with a young Mormon collegue a few w...I was talking with a young Mormon collegue a few weeks ago asking about the belief that the Native Americans were all that is left of the Lamanites etc of the Book of Mormon. <br /><br />I asked him if he knew that DNA testing now proves Native Americans come from Siberia and crossed the Bering Sea landbridge from there to the Americas.<br /><br />oops...he said that the Church was beginning to take the story as an allegory. Allegory is another word for "oops we goofed" as far as I can tell. Of course DNA testing invaladates the very popular notion in the 1800's that the Moundbuilders were the Lost Tribes of Israel etc. <br /><br />What baloney<br /><br />I had my DNA taken back 100,000 years to my African (as are all human origins) origins in the Eastern part of the Continent. The testing traces my DNA markers up from there , across the Red Sea into Yemen, up into Iran and Iraq, the Himalayans and Uzbekastan etc and up into the Russian Steppes, turning left about 35,000 years ago into Europe. Cool stuff<br /><br />I feel older now. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-27296235178139513392010-12-29T10:05:52.718-08:002010-12-29T10:05:52.718-08:00Hey, I'll have to check those out. Several mo...Hey, I'll have to check those out. Several months ago, we had a guest speaker at our church who has also written a book on Christian history. If anyone did anything to get people into studying their own Bibles for themselves, we'd certainly need to consider Wycliffe, William Tyndale, and other "subversives" who translated the Bible into English (and other languages), and spawned the Reformation. WCG, although barely recognizeable as such, actually has its roots among the Seventh Day Baptists, one of the early Protestant groups.<br /><br />I think there is a reason the ACOG splinters appear to have been spewed from the mouth of God, and their message muted. It would be very easy to envision a loving God wanting to make sure that racism was not a part of the end time gospel message. British Israelism is worse than human racism, because it actually attributes racism to God Himself! God was never a racist. He was set against large groups of people who were involved in paganism, and evil false worship. That had nothing to do with ethnic makeup or skin pigmentation! Too bad HWA couldn't break things down into basic components, and get things right!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-70236559938313324782010-12-28T12:41:07.284-08:002010-12-28T12:41:07.284-08:00BB, you wrote:
"Armstrongism generally produc...BB, you wrote:<br />"Armstrongism generally produced some very bad or questionable research,..."<br /><br />There never has bee critical research done in Armstrongism. Rational and critical thinking and research have never been part of the church (COG) throughout the last 80 some years. <br /><br />Critical thought and thinking would lead men and women to really examine HWA's writings. Instead all research done in Armstrongism start's with HWA as the founding basis and then tries to move from there proof-texting all the way. <br /><br />If they did that they would quickly discover that the Word was not hidden for 1,900 years but was very much alive and well. It was never hidden, it was never lost, it was never a mystery. <br /><br />A good over all history of the church can be found in Justo Gonzalez's book, The History of Christianity. <br /><br />His other series of books, equally as good is, The History of Christian Thought. It get's into those men you talked about.NO2HWAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-79584316093911821902010-12-28T12:31:55.369-08:002010-12-28T12:31:55.369-08:00Armstrongism has for decades used The Two Babylon&...Armstrongism has for decades used The Two Babylon's by Hislop as their second Bible. They have also used Ralph Woodward's Babylon Mystery Religion. <br /><br />Woodrow renounced his previous book and came out with a book called The Babylon Connection where he admits he published unfounded information, some of it based upon Herbert's teachings. <br /><br />He also goes into Hislop's book pointing out the many mistakes in it.NO2HWAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-72272145007536502072010-12-28T11:17:38.209-08:002010-12-28T11:17:38.209-08:00Thanks for making this information available to yo...Thanks for making this information available to your readers. <br /><br />I believe that many people just take for granted that British Israelism is truth, simply because it came from HWA whom they believe to be "God's Apostle". However, if one is bold enough to test the theory, one discovers that it is absolutely preposterous, and for many reasons. <br /><br />There is another similar conspiratorial theory, also a lynchpin of the classic WCG package of doctrines that is equally ridiculous. Most WCG members whom I ever met did not take the time to read any of the history or authors from the early centuries of Christianity, but if they had, they would immediately have known beyond the shadow of a doubt that Simon Magus did not start the Roman Catholic Church! The Armstrong ministry treated the Antenicene Fathers as having been Catholic. However, the New Testament, and the writings of the A.N Fathers firmly documents the fact this was a lineage which began with the students of the original apostles. As a group,they destroyed as many of the original writings of Simon Magus as they could find, and wrote volumes against the evils of heretical gnosticism. Irenaeus was particularly vigilant about stamping out heresies! <br /><br />Armstrongism generally produced some very bad or questionable research, and is not to be trusted by anyone with a high regard for truth. Rather than following an evidentiary trail, and allowing that to come to logical conclusion, their pattern was to lift select passages from authors and history which tended to prop up their doctrines, disregarding others which plainly conflicted. Independent second and third opinions and resources should always be consulted, and proper context observed!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-76914548161485779172010-12-28T06:58:31.751-08:002010-12-28T06:58:31.751-08:00The DNArefutesBI.com website is still half-baked a...The DNArefutesBI.com website is still half-baked and won't be ready until Spring -- it is only an outline and needs to be fleshed out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com