tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post8178571411545491101..comments2024-03-29T03:57:21.878-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Herbert W Armstrong: 31 Years Later and No Legitimate COG Leader Has Come Forth.NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-54937931740103634462017-01-17T07:53:49.376-08:002017-01-17T07:53:49.376-08:00The 19 year cycle (half the wavelength of the gold...The 19 year cycle (half the wavelength of the golden rectangle of 38%) is in fact heavy mathematics. There are expensive computer programs on timing. The ministers, especially people like Herbie, did not have the training in maths to do such calculations. Even doing it manually, you would need a good spread sheet. And at the end of the day, it still amounts to probability, since timing can conform to a multitude of geometric patterns. Only hindsight tells which pattern is the right one. <br />So all these claims that this or that year is the beginning of the tribulation, is an educated guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-21124912773324690492017-01-16T23:56:53.573-08:002017-01-16T23:56:53.573-08:00Theil is still going on about that 1983 sermon? I ...Theil is still going on about that 1983 sermon? I remember reading him when he first wrote about that December 17, 1983 sermon by HWA which was entitled "Mission of the Philadelphia Church Era." In that sermon HWA presented a list of eighteen "restored truths" and then Theil got his hands on this sermon and noted that the list of "truths" mentioned differed from the list of 18 that is commonly used among the COGs which is derived from a 1986 article. That was long before he broke away from LCG.Redfox712https://www.blogger.com/profile/17734930967002040931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-10224453634212310952017-01-16T19:17:27.319-08:002017-01-16T19:17:27.319-08:00Bobs 18 truths, as well as Herbs 'restored tru...Bobs 18 truths, as well as Herbs 'restored truths' is useless academic fluff. The core of Armstrongism was obey, yield, surrender, submit, meaning allow yourself to be dominated by Herbies ministers. To their credit, not every minister did this. But most did. And not forgetting, give, help, s-e-r-v-e, meaning allow yourself to be robbed blind by church losers and crazies.<br />Allow yourself to be dominated and exploited was and still is the core of Armstrongism. Is God supposed to bless such demonic filth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-61102346971430031932017-01-16T19:04:33.276-08:002017-01-16T19:04:33.276-08:00NOBODY has a right to call himself a prophet, tell...<br />NOBODY has a <i>right</i> to call himself a prophet, tell lies to other people, and steal their money. Nevertheless, many <i>perverts</i> do it anyway, and many people fall for their dirty trick.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-55190834147828051442017-01-16T18:59:20.604-08:002017-01-16T18:59:20.604-08:00Well, in ACOG churchspeak, they are already well i...Well, in ACOG churchspeak, they are already well into their second 19 year time cycle of the splintering. The emergent putter of Humpty Dumpty together again has failed to materialize, so it is open game (to some people) to create an illusion that they are this unifier. Not a single one has been able to put on a convincing act, and especially not Bob Thiel. <br /><br />What would we see in such an emergent one? Effortless operation on a higher plane. Not just words, fake statistics, lamentations, and excuses. Those four things are the hallmarks of a pretender.<br /><br />Of course, it's all hypothetically based on the idea that HWA was special or God-sent in the first place. Way too many red flags about that line of thinking!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-44562744608631840452017-01-16T18:22:54.060-08:002017-01-16T18:22:54.060-08:00Of course God has sent no replacement leader. To l...Of course God has sent no replacement leader. To learn how to ride a bike, one needs to ride the bike. To learn how to dance, one needs to get on the dance floor. Meaning, people need to exercise their God given talents in order to grow as a Christian. Herbie and his henchmen robbed church members of these talents, so no more oppressive, unified church. Note Herbies famous 'beware of pulling yourself up by your bootstraps' saying. Actually pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps is what's commanded in the parable of the talents. The person that failed to so that was called wicked by Christ.<br />So finally members are free from the shackles of oppression of Herbies tyrannical henchmen (called 'administering gods government'), free to grow and reach their full potential.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-87760871506507381122017-01-16T17:34:20.145-08:002017-01-16T17:34:20.145-08:00“The [improperly named] 'continuing' Churc...<br />“The [improperly named] '<i>continuing</i>' Church of God has exceeded the 30% growth per year that the old Radio/Worldwide Church of God used to claim it had for decades. Many of those that we have with us did NOT have a WCG background as we reached people <b>[in NIGERIA that]</b> others had not <b>[wanted to get used by]</b>.”<br /><br /><br />Bob has not reached them. Rather, they have reached Bob. Any more of this “30% growth per year” in <b>NIGERIA</b> and Bob's CCG could go bankrupt.<br /><br />All the splinter groups seem to have this same problem. Even though they all started off by rustling former WCG members, they have always wanted to pretend that they are growing and attracting brand new people who had never even heard of Herbert W. Armstrong. Consequently, they desperately welcome in just any old unconverted weirdo who comes around. Existing members who do have a WCG background are expected to put up with the strange new freaks “to show love to them.” The problem is that the demons who send the occasional new unconverted weirdo their way HAVE heard of Herbert W. Armstrong.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-90856991100861455322017-01-16T17:28:00.421-08:002017-01-16T17:28:00.421-08:00Okay, I'll accept that by satisfying his own c...Okay, I'll accept that by satisfying his own criteria of legitimacy, Bob is the sole heir to HWA's Philadelphia mantle. And HWA was the sole legitimate heir of ?<br />Hosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13285219921252563944noreply@blogger.com