tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post8803365528699406112..comments2024-03-29T03:57:21.878-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Erratic Prayers and Beliefs--The Stones Cry OutNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-74588157555461598512017-03-02T14:34:56.224-08:002017-03-02T14:34:56.224-08:00Well, strictly speaking, the supposed "prayer...Well, strictly speaking, the supposed "prayer rock" is not graven, except by the glaciers that carried it there early in its history. :) <br />I don't think HWA prayed TO the rock. It was just a piece of his quiet spot for prayer/plotting/thinking/getting away from his noisy kids/cover story for whatever. But the awe/prayer/adoration described above by PCG members over the now-displaced rock is different. You could theoretically see it as a sort of recap of the former relic trade of the Middle Ages. First there are no objects, then there are objects for simple illustration/nostalgia, then there are objects with magical curative powers, then there are objects which are actually venerated as a sort of foci for the divine. RSKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-45848078085319256532017-03-02T12:19:51.626-08:002017-03-02T12:19:51.626-08:00Oh no! I just heard on the radio that there's ...Oh no! I just heard on the radio that there's going to be a big Irish Dance performance in Tulsa this Saturday night, the 4th! I bet the whole Edmond congregation is going!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-54850296676204108302017-03-02T11:01:39.736-08:002017-03-02T11:01:39.736-08:00Wait, I was always taught NOT to revere or "w...Wait, I was always taught NOT to revere or "worship" any object or graven image! Yet now we know there is a certain prayer rock that HWA prayed over? As usual, the rules did and do not apply when the COG's are involved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-68525638829606969972017-03-02T10:12:38.462-08:002017-03-02T10:12:38.462-08:00How is Flurry's veneration for this rock any d...How is Flurry's veneration for this rock any different from the veneration showed to icons and statuary inside many churches?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-41731931258604047372017-03-02T08:14:41.121-08:002017-03-02T08:14:41.121-08:00Note: I deleted the two political posts and the t...Note: I deleted the two political posts and the two follow up comments by regulars here. Those comments would not have made any sense if they had been left up and the two originals were gone. Sorry they slipped through.NO2HWAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-43146075503162515412017-03-01T10:51:25.455-08:002017-03-01T10:51:25.455-08:00If the Malones composed a musical to go with this ...If the Malones composed a musical to go with this stone, would we call it rock music?<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-78974742321402888512017-03-01T08:38:31.464-08:002017-03-01T08:38:31.464-08:00That is equivalent to bowing heads to the Temple M...That is equivalent to bowing heads to the Temple Mount <br /><br />(1 Corinthians 4:10 drank the same SPIRITUAL drink; for they drank from the SPIRITUAL rock)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-45292250914435817102017-03-01T08:04:00.158-08:002017-03-01T08:04:00.158-08:00"Read the book, Freedom Betrayed, by US presi..."Read the book, Freedom Betrayed, by US president Herbert Hoover"<br /><br />What?! Were the lyrics of the theme song to "All in the Family" right? Do we really need a man like Herbert Hoover again?<br /><br />OK. But just to be clear, we may need Herbert Hoover again, but we don't need another J. Edgar Hoover.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-85269258430081928132017-03-01T07:35:18.626-08:002017-03-01T07:35:18.626-08:00An erratic rock for an erratic Gerald Flurry is ve...An erratic rock for an erratic Gerald Flurry is very appropriate! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910856904624749641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-63514834624328078452017-03-01T07:33:40.704-08:002017-03-01T07:33:40.704-08:00Once again that Armstrongists have rocks in their ...Once again that Armstrongists have rocks in their heads....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-58643851358596699082017-03-01T06:39:21.025-08:002017-03-01T06:39:21.025-08:005.51 AM
Mis-direct-Guy/Troll-Guy strikes again.
5.51 AM<br />Mis-direct-Guy/Troll-Guy strikes again.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-55989866408129771322017-03-01T06:01:25.570-08:002017-03-01T06:01:25.570-08:00When did France invade Germany before Germany inva...When did France invade Germany before Germany invaded Poland ? It was Hitler who bluff marched into the demilitarised zone. Even Hitler himself admited that if Frace or any if the allies had blocked them then the german army would have had to retreat like foxes with their tales between their legs. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-16360849381207731412017-03-01T05:51:21.713-08:002017-03-01T05:51:21.713-08:00Anonymous said "8.45 PM. Err, are you sure t...Anonymous said "8.45 PM. Err, are you sure that you are posting on the right blog?"<br /><br />It is important we understand how God brought the prayer rock to HWA and what Gerald Flurry has in his possession. All the credibility of Gerald Flurry depends on being able to establish the entire story of where this special rock comes from and just how it came to be imbued with the special qualities so that HWA "drank in much energy, spiritual strength and inspiration at that prayer rock." <br /><br />We need to imagine, when Jesus is enthroned over it in Edmond Him taking the time in a fireside chat with the PCG elite to reveal it's miraculous story and how it came to Edmond. How surprised He will be when they say, "Oh we read <br /> BannedHWA and already knew that."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-74116971867606154772017-03-01T05:35:38.137-08:002017-03-01T05:35:38.137-08:00Humans are always so obsessed over symbolic object...Humans are always so obsessed over symbolic objects.<br />Perhaps from reading too much fiction?<br /><br />King Arthur's excalibur<br />The special ring of Frodo<br />The lia fail stone<br />The shroud of Turin<br />Elijah's mantle<br />The magic slippers<br /><br />and now Herbert's special prayer rock<br /><br />A god working out some kind of plan wouldn't care about stupid artifacts anyway.Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-41040506961613420722017-03-01T04:57:02.778-08:002017-03-01T04:57:02.778-08:00A little geological relief can be therapeutic and...A little geological relief can be therapeutic and besides it is meant merely as a coincidental play off the theologically"erratic" nature of these guys. Blog owner does the heavy lifting on the specifics of the Wild World Churches of God and their personalities <br /><br />Besides, the prayer rock may have passed right over my head back in the day on its way to Eugene and I may claim a geological blessing from that as no mere coincidence...<br /><br /><br /><br />Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17266112796114131485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-60007496298264552802017-03-01T04:40:48.998-08:002017-03-01T04:40:48.998-08:00Just providing some "by the way" related...Just providing some "by the way" related relief to COG drama and foolishmess. I've run out of "former minister" content.<br /><br />There was no "recreation"Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17266112796114131485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-75492689672508651082017-03-01T01:19:32.646-08:002017-03-01T01:19:32.646-08:00" And at that time, we all seriously believed..." And at that time, we all seriously believed that the Germans would be rolling their tanks off the ships in early 1972."<br /><br />As one who studied the movement after the atrocious years you often refer to, everytime I read the referral to the German tanks in California I am baffled at that anyone ever believed that.<br /><br />Never in history until this very moment did the Germans or Europeans for that matter posess the capabilities that is ships and aircraft cariers to conduct such operation. These capabilities were provided by the USA during the Cold War. <br /><br />As a matter of fact I only heard about this belief in the 2ist century on the dissident blogs.<br /><br />I did read about the nuclear destruction of the East Coast though. That is in BI in prophecy "best seller". But again Germany nor any other European nation but France was ever in sovereign posession of Nuclear weapons. <br /><br />ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-46469846225575363122017-02-28T22:10:09.315-08:002017-02-28T22:10:09.315-08:00Glaciers and their history does not in itself disp...Glaciers and their history does not in itself disprove Gods Genesis recreation.<br /><br />8.45 PM. Err, are you sure that you are posting on the right blog?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-44422026126063583662017-02-28T21:41:00.127-08:002017-02-28T21:41:00.127-08:00Sure. Read. You've brought this up before. ...Sure. Read. You've brought this up before. But, also read the critiques of and rebuttals of that book. It is neither silver bullet, nor is it gospel.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-12377856354514355222017-02-28T21:25:06.314-08:002017-02-28T21:25:06.314-08:00It is those who are not well rooted, or anchored w...It is those who are not well rooted, or anchored who are most susceptible to scams. Not well rooted does not mean dumb. All a scammer need do, is pick an area that is not well known, and use that area as the vantage point for approaching the marks. This is why some with high IQs were taken in by Armstrongism. <br /><br />A vaccine is made from a weakened version of the disease which it is intended to cure. Armstrongism cast doubt upon and weakened both science and Christianity in order to "cure" prospectives of both. Both were labeled "falsely so-called" Only then was the scam able to be dropped in place as being the healthy and optimal state, in the guise of truth. <br /><br />While I was a student at AC, I once attended the baptism of a friend. This was a somewhat exceptional baptism, because it occurred not in the first few weeks or months of the student's freshman year, but late in his sophomore year. Following the baptism, the student had an interesting comment, one that has stuck with me for years. He explained that the reason it took him so long to commit was that his mind had been bogged down by the science and philisophy he had been taught in "the world's" education system. The reality is, he was one of the students that had been well-grounded. His natural defenses and ability to ask the hardball questions had initially been in place. But, alas, the system and AC environment succeeded in eventually wearing those down. There had been considerable pressures involved. His older brother was a highly committed student. And at that time, we all seriously believed that the Germans would be rolling their tanks off the ships in early 1972. <br /><br />The antics of the splinters in keeping up the pressure may seem amusing to us today, but obviously the lessons of the early 1970s have never been completely absorbed by the movement. How many PCG members and ministers believe that the "authenticity" and destiny of this rock has been confirmed in their prayers? <br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-15065601445181904532017-02-28T21:13:50.078-08:002017-02-28T21:13:50.078-08:00Go to http://exitsupportnetwork.com and look at th...Go to http://exitsupportnetwork.com and look at the letters. There seem to be more this year about Gerry-boy than all other COG cults combined. They always have a separate letters section just for Gerry-boy alone. Not Theil. Not Packer. Not Merry-death. Just Gerry-boy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-9604565077485838132017-02-28T20:51:27.099-08:002017-02-28T20:51:27.099-08:00Read the book, Freedom Betrayed, by US president H...Read the book, Freedom Betrayed, by US president Herbert Hoover. Then you will know you have been LIED to. Totally. By the media. Gerald will never tell you this. It would destroy him. It would destroy Herbert. It would destroy the COGs. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-8132191763472059582017-02-28T20:45:32.751-08:002017-02-28T20:45:32.751-08:00Putin did it.
He gave up the soviet empire, but ...Putin did it. <br />He gave up the soviet empire, but he must be evil. Gerald told me so. <br />Russia is democracy now, but he must be evil. Gerald told me so. <br />Russia never attacked anyone, but he must be evil. Gerald told me so. <br />Russia did not sink Hitler's ships before 1939. Roosevelt did. But Putin must be be evil. Gerald told me so. <br />France invaded Germany before Germany invaded Poland. But who cares? It was all the fault of Putin and Adolf. Gerald told me so. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com