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Sunday, January 2, 2022

Breaking in the new year, The Two Witnesses podcast presents: Episode #3 "Walk This Way"


 


Breaking in the new year, The Two Witnesses podcast presents: Episode #3 "Walk This Way"


If there was anything the Worldwide Church of God was really good at (besides collecting member tithes), it was telling members that they'd better Walk and Talk as the leader Herbert Armstrong and the ministry taught (but notably did not necessarily do themselves). In the specific case of the WCG, and in many of the splinters, members knew and know that they'd better toe the party line or they are to be expunged from the organization and most likely disfellowshipped, which means being estranged from their friends and acquaintances in the church.

This is one of the identifying features of any cult, and in this episode, the Two Witness hosts go through several characteristics that define a "cult", discussing how their own experiences demonstrate these characteristics being manifested in the WCG and its daughter churches. Certainly, many readers here will be able to relate to it.

In this episode, you'll also hear:

HWA railing against any sinful Jezebel-like women who would dare to put on makeup!

Rod Meredith screaming like a madman against what was apparently his favorite subject, sex and the "homosexual queers"!

HWA's obsession with his own importance, and his lackeys and worshippers who even now still lap it up.

Members being put in fear of not being able to escape to the "place of safety" in Petra when HWA gave the word.

Garner Ted Armstrong scaring baptized members by explaining that leaving the church is... the Unpardonable Sin!


At one point Witness Ralph tries to declare himself the new Apostle, but we're having none of that! :)

There's also a shout-out to John Trechak (RIP) that some may know from the once-published Ambassador Report, and another to this very blog, BannedByHWA.

With one more episode being planned after this one, this is the penultimate.  We hope interested listeners will find it worth their time, or at least fodder for further recollection or discussion.

Michael

Friday, October 1, 2021

The 100% Failure Rate Of Prophecy In The Churches of God



In light of the recent post here about Gerald Weston's whitewashing of Herbert Armstrong, Rod Meredith, and the Church of God's abysmal track record on prophecy, I thought this would be a great separate thread.

Weston's explanation of HWA's 1975 in Prophecy booklet might be more believable if HWA hadn't already had a track record by then of making predictions and setting dates, which can be traced all the way back to early editions of the Plain Truth in the 1930s. For instance, the June 1934 edition of the Plain Truth had a chart in it where HWA labeled 1936 as the "end of the age." When that didn't happen, he simply kicked the can down the road a bit and made other predictions, and set other dates, much like Pack, Flurry, and others do today. For example, in the February 1938 Plain Truth, he declared Mussolini the "Beast" of Revelation, and in January of 1939 he further promoted this idea, saying that "MUSSOLINI UNDOUBTEDLY IS THE "BEAST" and "MUSSOLINI WILL FIGHT CHRIST!"


Weston also ignores the fact that HWA also promoted and taught the idea of 19 year time cycles, and made his own claims based on those time cycles. For example, in Chapter 24 of his Autobiography, he has this to say, 


"God set the earth, sun, and moon in their orbits to mark off divisions of time on the 

earth. One revolution of the earth is a day. One revolution of the moon around the earth is a lunar month (according to God’s sacred calendar). One revolution of the earth around the sun is a solar year. But the earth, the sun, and the moon come into almost exact conjunction only once in 19 years. Thus 19 years mark off one complete time-cycle!" 


He went on to use this statement to promote the idea that God timed his entry into the ministry based on the number of time cycles that had occurred since Pentecost of 31AD. 


It is both a double standard and rank hypocrisy to criticize the "speculations" of others, making the statement that "some never learn" while glossing over and excusing the same behavior in the very leaders you hold up as bastions of "truth" such as HWA and Meredith. 


It would be totally refreshing if just one of these guys was able to admit that HWA engaged in this behavior and was WRONG, as did Rod Meredith and others, and that we need to learn from the false claims and sins of our predecessors so we don't fall prey to repeating their mistakes. 


It is contradictory to claim out of one side of your mouth, as HWA did, that you were not called to "be a prophet" while also writing articles and booklets predicting specific events to be fulfilled by specific people, using titles such as "1975 in Prophecy" and also claiming that you are the fulfillment of an end time "voice crying out in the wilderness" as prophesied in Malachi 3:1


"John the Baptist was a voice crying out in the physical wilderness of the Jordan River area, preparing for the human physical Jesus' first coming to a material temple at Jerusalem, to a physical Judah. But that was a type, or forerunner of a voice "lifted up" (greatly amplified by modern printing, radio and TV), crying out in the midst of today's spiritual wilderness of religious confusion, announcing the imminency of Christ's SECOND coming as the spiritually GLORIFIED Christ, to His spiritual temple (the Church resurrected to spirit immortality)." Plain Truth Magazine, January 1980


If you claim you aren't a "prophet" that doesn't excuse you if you then go on to make false predictions, or engage in the same behavior that defines a false prophet.  


Concerned Sister

 In a second comment, there was this:


The date setting, and the abundant evidence of its ongoing denial, backpedaling, and rewrite is exactly why God would have to use a completely new and different group as His end time witness. Armstrongism has burned itself as a credible witness, and current members are just kidding themselves if they think otherwise. The credibility of other Christian groups has also fallen apart.

If you're just pulling into town from the feast, looking forward to a sabbath in your home town, and thinking to yourself "See? We have the truth about God's test commandment, the sabbath, so God will reveal His plans to us!", then you better wonder about the effectiveness of the sabbath as a signifier of God's True Church, because Armstrongism has a 100% failure rate in end time prophecy, dating way back to the WW-II era when HWA was preaching that the war would culminate in Armageddon, Hitler and Mussolini were the Beast, and Pope Pius was the AntiChrist. And, this was before Israel was even reborn as a nation, which was very necessary for the prophecies in Revelation to come to pass. For years, he denied that Hitler's body was Hitler, and preached that he was alive in South America, and would arise to complete the job. Sounds soooo much like a recent president, doesn't he? False leaders are always detached from reality!

Friday, May 28, 2021

The Infamous Leona McNair, Rod Meredith, WCG, Raymond McNair Lawsuit

 


This is the lawsuit that got Rod Meredith's ass handed to him by a court of law for mouthing off about Leona McNair. Even after this humiliating defeat he still could not and would not control his mouth. It was soon after this that Meredith joined up with Raymond McNair and started the Global Church of God. Meredith waited till the WCG paid all of his legal fees and then jumped ship. Then, not long after that, he stabbed Raymond McNair in the back and started Living Church of God taking all the tithe money and members while virtually leaving Raymond and Eve McNair with nothing. 

One thing is for sure, the Church of God has produced high-quality ethical ministers! Aren't they a shining example of God's values?


McNair v. Worldwide Church of God (1987)




[No. B010791. Court of Appeals of California, Second Appellate District, Division Five. December 30, 1987.]

LEONA McNAIR, Plaintiff and Respondent, v. WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD et al., Defendants and Appellants

(Opinion by Hastings, J., with Feinerman, P. J., and Ashby, J., concurring.) [197 Cal. App. 3d 364]

COUNSEL

Greene, O'Reilly, Broillet, Paul, Simon, McMillan, Wheeler & Rosenberg, Antony Stuart and Michael L. Goldberg for Plaintiff and Respondent.

Browne & Woods, Horvitz, Levy & Amerian, Ellis J. Horvitz, Barry R. Levy, Daniel J. Gonzalez, Haight, Dickson, Brown & Bonesteel, Bruce A. [197 Cal. App. 3d 366] Armstrong, Roy G. Weatherup, Robert M. Dato, and Ralph K. Helge for Defendants and Appellants.

OPINION

HASTINGS, J.

In this case of first impression we are asked to determine whether the free exercise clause of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution bars a defamation suit brought against a church and two of its ministers for statements made during the course of a theological controversey. Should we find the suit is not barred, we then must identify the level of malice necessary to sustain an award of damages.

Plaintiff and respondent Leona McNair (respondent) brought an action for libel, slander, intentional infliction of severe emotional distress, invasion of privacy, and conspiracy against defendants and appellants Worldwide Church of God (the Church), Raymond McNair (McNair), and Roderick Meredith (Meredith). After a jury trial, judgment was entered in respondent's favor. She was awarded $260,000 compensatory and $1 million punitive damages.

Facts

To better understand the issues on appeal, we begin with a brief history of the Church. Herbert W. Armstrong founded the Church in 1933 when it was known as the Radio Church of God. The Church is a fundamentalist Christian faith with an hierarchical structure. Until his death in 1986, Mr. Armstrong was the Pastor General or Apostle and the spiritual leader of the Church. Below him in the leadership are a handful of evangelist ministers. Below the evangelists, in order of rank, are the pastors, elders, local elders and finally deacons. Guidance on matters of religious doctrine and administration is passed down from the leadership to the field ministry and congregation.

The Church's religious beliefs are rooted in the Old and New Testaments. Followers' lifestyles are determined by biblical strictures, e.g. observance of Sabbath on Saturdays, tithing, adherence to certain dietary laws. The Church also has strict views on the permanence of marriage, making divorce very difficult. [197 Cal. App. 3d 367]

The Church membership numbers approximately 100,000 with 1,000 ministers. Much of the growth of the Church was due to the 1947 founding of Ambassador College in Pasadena, where the Church is headquartered and where most of the Church's ministers have been educated.

Raymond McNair became a Church evangelist-minister in 1953 and a leader of the Church. One of the persons McNair baptized was respondent. On July 31, 1955, they were married. Foregoing the nursing for which she had been trained, respondent assisted McNair and, in accordance with Church practice, became "50 percent of his ministry." In 1958 McNair was sent to England to manage the Church's work overseas. At Mr. Armstrong's behest, McNair opened an Ambassador College campus in England in 1960. He was the deputy chancellor of this college as well as the director of Church work for Europe, Africa, the Middle East, Asia and Australia. McNair was also regional editor of the Church's publications for which he wrote many articles. Assisting McNair in all his works and traveling extensively with him, respondent became known in the Church as the "first lady of England," corresponding to Mrs. Armstrong's status as "first lady in the Church."

All went well until 1973 when a Church division developed, pitting "conservatives" against "liberals." The latter group promoted changes which would liberalize various church teachings. Among several controversial issues was the Church's teaching on divorce and remarriage. Up to this time, the Church recognized only two grounds for divorce and permissible remarriage: porneia, defined as gross immorality, and fraud. Those divorced persons who wished to be baptized also had to abide by this teaching even if it meant leaving a new spouse. In 1974, a third ground was added: "desertion by the unconverted mate." fn. 1 Also, under the new doctrine, divorces prior to conversion into the faith were forgiven, regardless of the grounds for divorce.

McNair allied himself with the Church conservatives and fought against the various changes. In 1973, McNair returned to become deputy chancellor of Ambassador College in Pasadena. Because the "liberals" were on the ascendancy, McNair was demoted to the position of senior editor of the Church's main publication, Plain Truth.

Though McNair remained faithful to the Church, respondent became embittered by this treatment. Because McNair's demotion meant a cut in [197 Cal. App. 3d 368] salary, respondent was concerned with the family financial situation. Unbeknownst to McNair, she began to investigate the possibility of reactivating her nursing license. As time passed, respondent became increasingly discontented with the Church and, what she perceived as, its hypocrisy. She began to attend meetings organized by a former Church minister who was similarly disgruntled, Ernest Martin. Respondent also financially contributed to and associated with the editors of Ambassador Review, a publication founded by former dissatisfied Church ministers and members. It featured articles critical of the Church's practices.

Eventually McNair learned about respondent's activities, and in 1974 he confronted her. After McNair's warnings, respondent continued to attend the Martin meetings and to associate with the Ambassador Review. Their personal relationship deteriorated rapidly. McNair removed respondent from the checking account, temporarily denied respondent use of the family car, and told her he'd rather she not pursue her career plan. Respondent refused to acquiesce, and in January, 1975, McNair moved out of their bedroom. A brief unsuccessful attempt at reconciliation was made in April, 1975.

McNair, counseled by Herbert Armstrong, filed for divorce in June 1975. Respondent was served in July 1975. McNair remained living in the house until July 1976. The divorce became final in September 1976. In the eyes of the Church the grounds for the divorce were "desertion by the unconverted mate" (here, respondent). McNair was the only evangelist minister within the Church who had ever divorced.

McNair and respondent went their separate ways. Respondent regained her nursing license and worked as a private duty nurse. Their oldest child, Ruth, was an adult; she chose to live with respondent, as did their youngest child, Joe. Bruce, their third child and elder son, chose to live with McNair. In June 1977, McNair married Evelyn McNair, a church member. In 1977, McNair regained his seat on the Church's board of directors and, the following year, his appointment as deputy chancellor of Ambassador College.

The third individual involved in this suit is Roderick Meredith. Meredith and McNair attended Ambassador College together; he graduated in 1952, and also became an evangelist minister. In 1955, he presided over McNair's and respondent's marriage and later married McNair's sister. In 1960, he conducted a marriage counseling session between McNair and respondent. During her trial testimony, respondent described this session as lasting four and a half hours and consisting of "railing accusations." McNair and Meredith both offered contradictory testimony. [197 Cal. App. 3d 369]

At all times pertinent to this litigation, Meredith was director of pastoral administration for the Church. It was his responsibility to clarify doctrinal issues within the ministry around the world. He also counseled ministers who experienced personal problems.

As noted earlier, the Church's 1974 action changing the rules on divorce and remarriage had caused much controversy and discussion. A "profound lack of understanding" continued throughout the ministry for several years after the changes. The controversy heightened when the 1976 McNair divorce became known. This was so because both McNair and respondent had been Church members when they exchanged marriage vows; had lived together 20 years adhering to Church teachings; neither had walked out on the other; and both had enjoyed prominent positions in the Church. McNair's 1977 remarriage placed him in the center of the controversy. Had his divorce been improper he would be seen as living in adultery, and there would appear to be a "double standard."

Simultaneous with this controversy, the Church experienced further turmoil when our state Attorney General placed it under receivership in early 1979. fn. 2 There was considerable controversy and publicity surrounding this action. Respondent was seen at one of the demonstrations organized by dissidents in the church, held near the Ambassador College campus. In early 1979, she and one of the persons involved in the Attorney General suit unsuccessfully attempted to enter a Church sabbath service. Meredith was aware of respondent's action and asked the congregation to consider respondent as a person who "was no longer with us," a Church practice known as "marking." fn. 3 By letter dated February 12, 1979, respondent was informed of this action.

Against this backdrop, the Church's annual meeting of ministers, the Ministers' Conference, was held in Tucson, Arizona in January, 1979. There were approximately 1,000 in attendance: ministers, their wives, and support staff. The proceedings were videotaped.

Since the controversy regarding divorce and remarriage persisted, the subject was a topic of discussion during this conference. As director of pastoral administration, Meredith considered it his responsibility to address this issue. He was aware that some ministers in attendance were accusing [197 Cal. App. 3d 370] him and McNair of hypocrisy in permitting McNair's divorce and remarriage. Meredith was concerned about an increase in the number of divorces and remarriages being allowed by ministers. With these concerns in mind, he rose to address the ministers. His speech, which lasted three and one-half hours, included the following remarks, which are the basis for the slander action

"Mr. Raymond McNair's wife is also a newer wife in the ministry but has been in God's church I think twelve or fifteen years, something like that. And I think most of you know and I want to say this here. I don't think Raymond and Evelyn will mind; they might be a little embarrassed but Evelyn ... had a husband that really mistreated her very much years ago. And this divorce was way back before [her] decision and that was way, way back, but most of you who know the situation with Mr. McNair, and I just want to say it because again there has been some scurrilous, foul garbage, we could use a wronger [sic] term, floating around to try to discredit him. But I personally know about it, not just from hearing him tell about it, but by being in his house during part of this time and my two sons playing with their cousins, not playing with, but visiting with and staying over weekends with their cousins Bruce and Joe when his first wife had left the church and was virtually cursing him, cursing Mr. Armstrong, with curse words, spitting literally in people's faces and as hateful as a human being could be. And God does tell us and the whole Church of God decided long before this ever came up with Mr. McNair back in First Corinthians 7:15 'But if the unbelieving depart,' and I tell you before God and Christ, she sure departed. I mean she departed so far that she is one of the major enemies of God's Church in Southern California and remains so to this day has been working actively and ferociously with the Ambassador Review. Tried to call me personally and get me to give them an interview here a year or so ago which I would not do. Everyone else that attends their meetings, attended Dr. Martin's meeting, fighting us, and fighting us actively. And 'if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage ...' or as the Greek word is used here, luo, I believe it is, the same word that is used for bound, in other words is not bound, is not luo, '... in such cases: but God has called us to peace,' and we've come to realize that what God has bound he can unbind. That's part of our understanding on divorce and remarriage which the whole Church came to back in 1974. And so after about two solid years of living without a wife and a virtual hell on earth Mr. McNair was encouraged by Mr. Armstrong and by Garner Ted Armstrong, fn. 4 and this is not a matter of a secret because he told me that he'd done that with Raymond and he told others, Ted Armstrong that is and [197 Cal. App. 3d 371] Mr. Armstrong. Both encouraged Raymond to put her away and divorce her since she was just simply wanting to keep him on the string and get a free ride while she cursed him and would not have anything to do with him. There was not even a way of saying hello in a friendly way, living in opposite ends of the house in an armed truce or an armed hell, and the way to do was to put her away and do what First Corinthians 7:15 said on the advice of the two top men in God's work. And so he had done that after about a year and a half, or whatever, and finally, also, several months later, married his present wife. And he is not married to anyone else but his present wife according to the understanding God's Church came to back in 1974. Thank you very much. So I hope we can all understand that and not accept this garbage that is trying to be thrown at every leading man in God's Church in one way or the other by Satan, the devil, through those whom he would use. So anyway, I hope we understand that ...."

Apparently, these remarks did not completely clarify the Church's teachings. Ron Kelley, a Church evangelist who supervised ministers in the Rocky Mountain States, wrote a two-page memorandum, entitled "Marriage & Divorce; A Greater Problem Than Ever." The memo was received at headquarters on June 19, 1979. In the third paragraph, Kelley noted, "No one has ever explained the Raymond McNair problem to the Church members. Many members simply cannot understand how such a long time 'leading' Minister and Evangelist can be free to remarry when the marriage occurred in the Church and lasted for more than 20 years." The memo discussed the overall divorce problem in the church and concluded, "This is a burning and nagging question within the Church and needs thorough doctrinal research and then official publication so members can know." This memo came to McNair's attention who discussed it with Meredith and other ministers. The outcome of these discussions was an article in the June 25, 1979, Pastor's Report, authored by Meredith. fn. 5 It stated: "Now, fellow ministers, I would like to discuss something that is becoming an increasingly critical problem within the ministry and within God's Church as a whole -- especially herein the United States. Increasing numbers of our church members are beginning to divorce their mates for, it seems, almost Any conceivable reason! What's more, they then expect to 'remain in the Church' and probably Remarry someone else in the Church -- perhaps their former friend's wife who has, by now, divorced him, and is also 'still in the Church.'

"We are going to have long doctrinal and theological discussions with Mr. Herbert Armstrong to cover and thoroughly understand any legitimate reasons for divorce and remarriage. However, as of this writing, there are [197 Cal. App. 3d 372] only Three that God's Church has officially recognized as legitimate: (I) Porneia -- that is gross immorality involving unadmitted fornication before marriage or a very serious or continuing type of adulterous or homosexual or similar relationship after marriage, (II) Fraud -- this is the case where one is "tricked" in some way and we have always understood and recognized this as an action that would in fact 'annul' a marriage since God would never bind a union based on fraud in the first place, (III) Desertion -- by the unconverted mate -- although this was accepted and taught by the Church long before his action, a classic example of this would be Mr. Raymond McNair's situation. His wife refused to be a wife to him for over two years -- to sleep with him, cook for him, or even civilly communicate with him in a decent manner. Rather, she had left God's Church and was actively Fighting God's Church and Mr. McNair, turning his children against him and literally cursing him to his face. Finally, upon advice of Mr. Armstrong and Ted Armstrong, he was finally forced to make legal the already existing Fact that she had deserted him and was no longer his wife in any way whatsoever.

"I repeat, these three exceptions are the Only ones recognized by God's Church as biblical reasons for people who are already converted to divorce a mate. Perhaps even we in the ministry need to realize more vividly the meaning of Jesus' statement: 'What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put asunder.' (Matt. 19:6.)" (Italics in original.)

Respondent learned about these statements in the Pastor's Report from a friend during a casual conversation at the supermarket. Subsequently, she heard the tape of Meredith's speech at the Ministerial Conference. She was devastated, and her emotional distress manifested itself in several physical and mental disorders.

Procedural History

Respondent filed her original complaint on July 13, 1979. It alleged two causes of action for libel and intentional infliction of emotional distress, arising solely from the Pastor's Report. The Church, Ambassador International Foundation and the Ambassador College were named as defendants. On October 4, 1979, respondent's first amended complaint was filed; it added causes of action for invasion of privacy, slander per se and slander, arising out of Meredith's remarks at the 1979 Ministerial Conference. Respondent's second amended complaint, the operative one on appeal, was filed September 23, 1980, and named as additional defendants Meredith, McNair, Herbert Armstrong and other individuals. It added a cause of action for civil conspiracy. [197 Cal. App. 3d 373]

Trial commenced on July 3, 1984. On August 23, 1984, after one day of deliberations, the jury returned a special verdict, in which it found the following:

1. The statements made at the ministerial conference and in the Pastor's Report were not privileged and were not true;

2. In making the statements in the Pastor's Report, defendants "intentionally caused, by extreme and outrageous conduct, severe emotional distress to plaintiff, or acted with reckless disregard of the probability of causing emotional distress to the plaintiff";

3. Plaintiff's severe emotional distress was a proximate result of the conduct of the defendants;

4. Defendants' wrongful acts were "done pursuant to a conspiracy to either libel, slander, or intentionally cause, by extreme and outrageous conduct, severe emotional distress to the plaintiff"; and plaintiff was damaged as a result of these acts;

5. The jury found in favor of plaintiff and against all three defendants.

The Appeals:

The Church, McNair and Meredith appeal. Each joins in the other's arguments. The Church argues reversal is mandated because the First Amendment of the United States Constitution bars this suit. We do not list or discuss numerous other issues raised because we decide this appeal on the constitutional issue.

In addition to the constitutional issue, McNair and Meredith contend respondent's action is barred by the statute of limitations.

Discussion

[1] "State laws whether statutory or common law, including tort rules, constitute state action." (Paul v. Watchtower Bible Tract Soc. of New York (9th Cir. 1987) 819 F.2d 875, 880.) In New York Times Co. v. Sullivan (1964) 376 U.S. 254, 265 [11 L. Ed. 2d 686, 697, 84 S. Ct. 710, 95 A.L.R.2d 1412], the United States Supreme Court held that state libel laws are subject to First Amendment constraints. It follows that state slander laws are similarly constrained. [197 Cal. App. 3d 374]

The First Amendment provides: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." The free exercise clause guarantees the protection of two concepts: freedom to believe and freedom to act. (Cantwell v. Connecticut (1940) 310 U.S. 296, 303-304 [84 L. Ed. 1213, 1219-1220, 60 S. Ct. 900, 128 A.L.R. 1352].) The freedom to believe is absolute. However, religious conduct may be subject to regulation for the protection of society. (Ibid.) fn. 6 In order for a regulation, or burden, to pass constitutional muster, the action to be regulated must pose some substantial threat to public safety, peace, or order. (Sherbert v. Verner (1963) 374 U.S. 398, 403 [10 L. Ed. 2d 965, 970, 83 S. Ct. 1790].)

The instant appeal presents issues which concern the freedom to act in the exercise of one's religion. Numerous cases warn that "'only the gravest abuses, endangering paramount interests, give occasion for permissible limitation'" on this freedom. (Sherbert v. Verner, supra, at p. 406 [10 L.Ed.2d at p. 972], quoting Thomas v. Collins (1945) 323 U.S. 516, 530 [89 L. Ed. 430, 440, 65 S. Ct. 315].) Here, we are asked to determine whether protection of a person's good name is a sufficiently important state interest that we allow the burden of tort damages to be imposed upon the Church's and its evangelist ministers' action. fn. 7 We conclude that it is, subject to the limitations discussed below.

[2] An individual's right to protect his/her good name has long been recognized. As one legal commentator has noted, "A millenium ago a slanderer could lose his tongue." fn. 8 While today the consequences suffered by the defamer are not so drastic, there is no question that society continues to have "... a pervasive and strong interest in preventing and redressing attacks upon reputation." (Rosenblatt v. Baer (1966) 383 U.S. 75, 86 [15 L. Ed. 2d 597, 605, 86 S. Ct. 669].) In Dun & Bradstreet, Inc. v. Greenmoss Builders (1985) 472 U.S. 749 [86 L. Ed. 2d 593, 105 S. Ct. 2939], Justice Powell quoting Rosenblatt, supra, identified this interest as reflecting "'"... no more than our basic concept of the essential dignity and worth of every human being -- a concept at the root of any decent system of ordered liberty."'" (Dun & Bradstreet, supra, at p. 758 [86 L.Ed.2d at p. [197 Cal. App. 3d 375] 601].) California has codified this interest in Civil Code sections 44 through 46. Section 44 provides that defamation can be effected through either libel or slander, and sections 45 and 46 define these terms. fn. 9 In McCoy v. Hearst Corp. (1986) 42 Cal. 3d 835 [231 Cal. Rptr. 518727 P.2d 711], our Supreme Court acknowledged that "Society's interest in redressing the harm done one's reputation is strong." (Id. at p. 858.)

[3] In this case, we must balance the reputational interest of our citizenry against the interests protected by the First Amendment's free exercise of religion clause. fn. 10 To resolve the issues raised by this balancing, we look not to common law theories of defamation which speak in terms of truth as a defense, privilege and qualified privilege. fn. 11 These have grown "... into a forest of complexities, overgrown with anomalies, inconsistencies, and perverse rigidities." (Eaton, supra, at p. 1350; see also, Prosser, Law of Torts (4th ed.) Defamation, § 111, p. 737 et seq.) Instead the analysis and theories set forth in New York Times Co. v. Sullivan (1964), supra, 376 U.S. 254, and its progeny are the foundation for our holding. fn. 12

In New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, supra; Gertz v. Robert Welch, Inc. (1974) 418 U.S. 323 [41 L. Ed. 2d 789, 94 S. Ct. 2997]; and Dun & Bradstreet, supra, 472 U.S. 749, the Supreme Court balanced the reputational interests of the plaintiff against the rights protected by the First Amendment's free speech and free press clauses. The plaintiff in the New York Times case was an elected official suing the New York Times over the contents of an advertisement [197 Cal. App. 3d 376]printed in the paper. The court recognized that our country has "a profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open, and that it may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials." (New York Times, supra, 376 U.S. at p. 270 [11 L.Ed.2d at p. 701].) The court concluded that the constitutional guarantees prohibit "... a public official from recovering damages for a defamatory falsehood relating to his official conduct unless he proves that the statement was made with 'actual malice' -- that is, with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not." (Id. at pp. 279-280 [11 L.Ed.2d at p. 706].) This New York Times malice has come to be labeled "constitutional malice."

In the Gertz case, the plaintiff was a private individual who allegedly had been defamed by an article appearing in defendant's magazine. After acknowledging that it had "... struggled for nearly a decade to define the proper accommodation between the law of defamation and the freedoms of speech and press protected by the First Amendment" (Gertz, supra, 418 U.S. at p. 325 [41 L.Ed.2d at p. 797]), the court held that (1) public persons may recover for defamation only upon clear and convincing proof of constitutional malice (id. at pp. 342-343 [41 L.Ed.2d at pp. 806-807]); (2) all persons defamed by news media may recover presumed and punitive damages only if they establish liability by clear and convincing proof of constitutional malice (Id. at pp. 348-350 [41 L.Ed.2d at pp. 810-811]); states may not impose liability without fault but may define the level of fault required for recovery by private persons defamed by the news media (Id. at pp. 347-348 [41 L.Ed.2d at pp. 809-810]); and (4) the states' interest in protecting reputation extends no further than compensation for actual injury; therefore, a private person defamed by news media must show constitutional malice before presumed or punitive damages may be imposed. (Id. at pp. 349-350 [41 L.Ed.2d at pp. 810-811].)

In Dun & Bradstreet, Inc. v. Greenmoss Builders (1984) supra, 472 U.S. 749, plaintiff sued a credit reporting agency which incorrectly reported plaintiff had filed for bankruptcy. The Supreme Court held that the rule of Gertz did not apply when the false and defamatory statements did not involve matters of public concern. (Id. at pp. 759-760 [86 L.Ed.2d at pp. 602-603].) It concluded that plaintiff's credit report concerned no public issue. (Id. at p. 762 [86 L.Ed.2d at pp. 604-605].)

Taking its cue from New York Times, California requires proof by clear and convincing evidence of constitutional malice before a public official or one determined to be a public figure may recover damages for a defamatory falsehood related to his/her official conduct. (McCoy v. Hearst Corp., supra, [197 Cal. App. 3d 377] 42 Cal. 3d at 841.) In dicta, this court has held that when a private individual, as distinguished from a public figure, sues a media defendant for defamation, a negligence standard of proof applies. (Widener v. Pacific Gas & Electric Co. (1977) 75 Cal. App. 3d 415, 433 [142 Cal. Rptr. 304], cert. denied (1978) 436 U.S. 918 [56 L. Ed. 2d 759, 98 S. Ct. 2265], overruled on other grounds by McCoy v. Hearst Corp., supra.)

These rules were developed by the courts to protect the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press. We hold that the right to free exercise of religion is a constitutional guarantee of equal significance. Throughout our history, our courts have reiterated the importance and special place the free exercise clause enjoys in our constitutional scheme. As noted by the United States Supreme Court in United States v. Ballard (1944) 322 U.S. 78, at page 87 [88 L. Ed. 1148, at page 1154, 64 S. Ct. 882], "The Fathers of the Constitution were not unaware of the varied and extreme views of religious sects, of the violence of disagreement among them, and of the lack of any one religious creed on which all men agree. They fashioned a charter of government which envisaged the widest possible toleration of conflicting views. Man's relation to his God was made no concern of the State. He was granted the right to worship as he pleased and to answer to no man for the verity of his religious views." (See also Serbian Orthodox Diocese v. Milivojevich (1976) 426 U.S. 696 [49 L. Ed. 2d 151, 96 S. Ct. 2372]; Wisconsin v. Yoder (1972) 406 U.S. 205 [32 L. Ed. 2d 15, 92 S. Ct. 1526]; Sherbert v. Verner, supra, 374 U.S. 398; Cantwell v. Connecticut, supra, 310 U.S. 296; Paul v. Watchtower Soc. of New York, supra, 819 F.2d 875; Church of Scientology of Cal. v. Siegelman (S.D.N.Y. 1979) 475 F. Supp. 950; Miller v. Catholic Diocese of Great Falls (Mont. 1986) 728 P.2d 794.)

Our accommodation of the competing interests of our society -- one protecting reputation, the other, the free exercise of religion -- requires that we hold that in order for a plaintiff to recover damages for defamatory remarks made during the course of a doctrinal explanation by a duly authorized minister, he/she must show, by clear and convincing evidence, that the defamation was made with constitutional malice, that is with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not. Whether a plaintiff is a "public figure" or the method of publication is via a "newspaper" is irrelevant under this holding.

[4a] Here, Meredith's allegedly defamatory remarks were made while explaining the Church's newly developed and misunderstood doctrine on divorce and remarriage, first at the pastoral conference in Tucson and then in the Pastor's Report. All parties agree there was confusion throughout the Church regarding the addition of the third ground for divorce (desertion by [197 Cal. App. 3d 378] the unconverted mate) and the McNairs' divorce and his remarriage. Respondent contends that the defamation was gratuitous, totally outside the context of any legitimate discussion of a religious dispute. Nonetheless, we cannot ignore the crucial fact that Meredith's remarks were made while he was explaining Church doctrine. fn. 13 As noted above, the First Amendment mandates a jealous guarding of religious practice unless it endangers a paramount interest of the state. (Sherbert v. Verner, supra, 374 U.S. 398.) The holding we have articulated strikes an appropriate balance between our citizens' reputational interests and our society's interest in protecting the right to free exercise of religion.

[5] The record indicates that the jury was charged with instructions which do not require a finding of constitutional malice, as we have defined it. While appellants had requested such as instruction, the court instead accepted those offered by respondent, over appellants' objection. BAJI No. 7.06 defined actual malice as follows: "Actual malice is a state of mind. It is actual hatred or ill will by the defendant against the plaintiff which induces publication. Malice may not be implied or inferred merely from the fact of publication or merely from negligence in publication. However, actual malice may be proved by either direct or circumstantial evidence." Special instruction No. 12 provided, "In deciding whether the statements published were true or false, you may not consider whether the defendants believed the statements were true. You must only consider whether or not the statements were objectively false." fn. 14 These instructions are framed in the language of negligence. We have concluded that the First Amendment requires New York Times constitutional malice instructions which require a finding that defendant's defamatory statements were made "with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not" (New York Times, Co. supra, 376 U.S. 254), focusing not on whether the statement was objectively true or false, but on defendant's knowledge of whether the statement was true or false.

[4b] In First Amendment media cases, the role of the appellate court is to review the record independently to decide whether "... the evidence in the record is sufficient to cross the constitutional threshold that bars the entry of any judgment that is not supported by clear and convincing proof [197 Cal. App. 3d 379] of 'actual malice.' [Citations.]" (McCoy v. Hearst Corp., supra, 42 Cal.3d at p. 842, quoting Bose Corp. v. Consumers Union of U.S., Inc. (1984) 466 U.S. 485, 510-511 [80 L. Ed. 2d 502, 523, 104 S. Ct. 1949].) In this case, the record does not support a finding by us that respondent presented evidence which crossed this "constitutional threshold."

[6] Meredith and McNair also have raised a statute of limitations argument. They contend that respondent was not entitled to substitute them for Does I and II, pursuant to Code of Civil Procedure section 474, because she knew their identities. fn. 15

The pertinent facts are as follows: Meredith's speech to the Ministers' Conference was made in January 1979; the article in the Pastor's Report was published on June 25, 1979. Respondent filed her original complaint for libel on July 13, 1979, against the Church and Does 1-50. Attached to this complaint was a copy of the allegedly libelous Pastor's Report article which designated Meredith as the author. On October 4, 1979, respondent filed her first amended complaint, adding the slander cause of action and alleging she had heard the tape of Meredith's Ministers' Conference remarks in August or September 1979. This complaint contained a verbatim quote of the remarks but did not name Meredith or McNair as defendants. On June 16, 1980, pursuant to Code of Civil Procedure section 474, respondent substituted Meredith and McNair for Does 1 and 2. On September 26, 1980, respondent filed her second Amended Complaint, naming Meredith and McNair and also Does I through XXX.

Meredith's and McNair's argument that respondent was not entitled to substitute under section 474 because she knew their identities fails because it is based on a literal and very narrow reading of the statutory language. Section 474 is to be construed liberally to enable a plaintiff to commence an action before it has become barred by the statute of limitations. (Dieckmann v. Superior Court (1985) 175 Cal. App. 3d 345, 355 [220 Cal. Rptr. 602].) "[A] plaintiff is deemed 'ignorant of the name of a defendant' if he knew the identity of the person but was ignorant of facts giving him a cause of action against the person." (Barnes v. Wilson (1974) 40 Cal. App. 3d 199, 205 [114 Cal. Rptr. 839].) Here, respondent's slander cause of action did not accrue until she heard the allegedly defamatory remarks and became distressed (Manguso v. Oceanside Unified School Dist. (1979) 88 Cal. App. 3d 725, 731 [152 Cal.Rptr. 27]), and both McNair and Meredith acknowledge this was not until August or September 1979, when she received a tape of Meredith's [197 Cal. App. 3d 380]remarks. Respondent learned of the allegedly libelous article in the Pastor's Report in late June or early July 1979. Respondent's amendment designating Meredith and McNair as Does 1 and 2 was filed June 16, 1980, within the one-year statutes of limitation applicable to both causes of action. (Code Civ. Proc., § 340, subd. (3).)

Having reached these holdings, we need not address the various other issues raised by appellants.

The judgment is reversed and the cause remanded for a new trial consistent with the requirements of this opinion. Each to bear own costs.

Feinerman, P. J., and Ashby, J., concurred.

FN 1. The concept of desertion was derived from scripture, 1 Corinthians, chapter 7, verse 15, which provides that if a nonbeliever departs, one is no longer bound. If the nonbeliever was found "not pleased to dwell," a scriptural concept, the believer would no longer be bound to dwell with a nonbeliever in marriage.

FN 2. This court later ruled the receivership had been unconstitutional and void. (People ex rel. Deukmejian v. Worldwide Church of God, Inc. (1981) 127 Cal. App. 3d 547 [178 Cal. Rptr. 913].)

FN 3. According to Meredith's testimony, "marking" is done before the local congregation; Church members are to avoid spiritual fellowship or contact with a "marked" person, who is seen as causing division within the Church.

FN 4. At trial, Meredith conceded he had been misinformed about the Armstrongs' role in McNair's divorce. They counseled McNair a divorce would be permitted but did not encourage him.

FN 5. The Pastor's Report is a private, weekly publication by the Church for its full-time ministers and a few others, such as Ambassador College faculty.

FN 6. Cases which have upheld a direct burden on religious practice are Reynolds v. United States (1878) 98 U.S. 145 [25 L. Ed. 244] (polygamy); and Hill v. State (1956) 38 Ala.App. 404 [88 So. 2d 880] (snake handling); Prince v. Massachusetts (1943) 321 U.S. 158 [88 L. Ed. 2d 645, 64 S. Ct. 438] (religious proselytizing by children on public streets.)

FN 7. Imposition of money damages is a burden upon religious action. (Paul v. Watchtower Bible Soc. of New York, supra, 819 F.2d at p. 882.)

FN 8. Eaton, The American Law of Defamation Through Gertz v. Robert Welch, Inc., and Beyond: An Analytical Primer (1975) Va.L.Rev. pp. 1349-1451, 1350.

FN 9. Civil Code section 45 provides: "Libel is a false and unprivileged publication by writing, printing, picture, effigy, or other fixed representation to the eye, which exposes any person to hatred, contempt, ridicule, or obloquy, or which causes him to be shunned or avoided or which has a tendency to injure him in his occupation."

Civil Code section 46 provides: "Slander is a false and unprivileged publication, orally uttered, and also communications by radio or any mechanical or other means which: [¶] 1. Charges any person with crime, or with having been indicted, convicted, or punished for crime; [¶] 2. Imputes in him the present existence of an infectious, contagious, or loathsome disease; [¶] 3. Tends directly to injure him in respect to his office, profession, trade or business, either by imputing to him general disqualification in those respects which the office or other occupation peculiarly requires, or by imputing something with reference to his office, profession, trade, or business that has a natural tendency to lessen its profits; [¶] 4. Imputes to him impotence or a want of chastity; or [¶] 5. Which, by natural consequence, causes actual damage."

FN 10. Doctrinal explanation by a duly authorized minister is as much an exercise of religion as any other religious practice.

FN 11. For a discussion of defamation and the free exercise clause, see Sciarrino, "Free Exercise" Footsteps in the Defamation Forest: Are "New Religions" Lost? (1983) Am.J.Trial Adv., pages 57-121.

FN 12. We are aware of Brewer v. Second Baptist Church (1948) 32 Cal. 2d 791 [197 P.2d 713], affirming a jury verdict against a church, its pastor and members of its board of deacons for defamatory remarks made about plaintiffs to support their dismissal from the church. The Brewer court based its holding on the very common law considerations which we have rejected and was decided long before New York Times, Inc. v. Sullivan, supra, 376 U.S. 254.

FN 13. Our opinion is based on the unique facts of this case that involve a former well-known and important member of the church (respondent) in a controversy that raises questions concerning church doctrine and teachings. We are not saying that explanation of church doctrine per se can shield the speaker or writer from a negligence action for libel or slander. There certainly must be a nexus between the person allegedly slandered or libeled and the religious activity involved. Accordingly, any determination of the malice required must be decided on a case by case basis.

FN 14. The authority cited for this instruction was Emde v. San Joaquin County etc. Council (1943) 23 Cal. 2d 146 [143 P.2d 20, 150 A.L.R. 916].

FN 15. Code of Civil Procedure section 474, in pertinent part, provides: "When the plaintiff is ignorant of the name of a defendant, he must state that fact in the complaint ... and such defendant may be designated in any pleading or proceeding by any name, and when his true name is discovered, the pleading ... may be amended accordingly; ..."


Read a more detailed step by step of the court proceedings (with a few pictures) in the Ambassador Report Leona McNair Awarded $1.26 Million

In the meantime, Meredith is apparently blaming his problems on some kind of Ambassador Report "conspiracy" (Los Angeles Times, San Gabriel Valley section, Aug. 30). He just cannot seem to admit that he did something wrong. Yet, Stan Rader, the church's attorney at the time, knew full well in 1979 just how serious Meredith's mistake was. Shortly after the June 25, 1979 Pastor's Report was mailed out, Rader's secretary, Virginia Kineston, showed him the Meredith comments on Leona. Rader was stunned. From then on Rader insisted Ms. Kineston check all Meredith writings for legal problems before they went to press. Meredith was stuck with a reputation for executive recklessness, and it was only a few weeks later that he was removed as director of the WCG's ministry. Yet five years later, he apparently still doesn't think he did anything wrong.

The trial overall had been a tense and often bitter one, but it was not without its humorous side. There was Stuart, before the final arrival of the jury, holding up a stethoscope from Leona's satchel and telling friends in the audience, "Just in case it's heart attack time!" There was the rumor that Browne, in closed chambers, had seriously protested the "endless stream" of homemade cookies Leona allegedly provided court personnel for their coffee breaks. And then there was the day when the entire jury showed up wearing matching blue T-shirts that read: "I love being on Judge Olson's case."

But the most hilarious aspect of the trial was the distinct ambience of the match-up itself. At the plaintiff's table was Leona with one attorney. Opposite them, at the defendants' table, was super weasel Allan Browne. To Browne's right was the pugnacious Bruce Armstrong. To Browne's left, and always facing the jury was Ralph Helge, virtually mute for the entire trial, but always looking like some grand inquisitor sucking on sour grapes. Behind the three defense lawyers sat Raymond McNair and Roderick Meredith, feverishly taking notes on yellow pads like a couple of newly baptized church members at a WCG sabbath service. Behind the two dark-suited evangelists was an assortment of lawyers and pseudo-lawyers from Helge's office, there to lend research assistance, moral support, and, it seems, to discourage interested WCG members from attending.

Thursday, December 31, 2020

Happy New Year From Your Favorite COG False Prophet!

 

Rod Meredith, William Dankenbring, John Rittenbaugh, Gerald Waterhouse

Garner Ted Armstrong, James Malm, Bob Thiel, Gerald Weston

Gerald Flurry, Herbert Armstrong, Ron Weinland, Dave Pack

Monday, November 30, 2020

How A Marked and Disfellowshiped Employee of Living Church of God Is Making A Difference In The World


Back in 2013 the Living Church of God was in a disfellowshipping tantrum and was kicking out members and employees that Rod Meredith deemed unworthy to be in his presence.

A reader here in 2013 had this to say about the endless disfellowshipments going on in the various COG's:
Mini-lesson on ostracism: historically social ostracism has been the traditional way to protect the tribe from individuals who are deemed as dangerous by the leaders. It probably reached it's most sophisticated height as a cultural mechanism during the period of Athenian democracy of circa 500 B.C. The group psychology of ostracism has been defined as “any behavior in which a group or individual excludes and ignores another group or individual.”

Think about this definition carefully, and you'll see that it pretty much describes the history of the modern-day COG's - except that the procedure is just referred to by a different term, disfellowshipment.
The church has always used marking and disfellowshipping people as a way of "protecting" the church from the ravenous wolves they imagined were seeking to devour it. In the vast majority of the cases, it was about people waking up to the lies of the church and the leadership and taking a stand against some abuse going on. Spiritual and physical abuse in the Church of God had/has been going on for decades and people were and still are sick of it. That is why fewer and fewer people stay in the spiritually abusive cults of Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, Ron Weinland, and other groups. Even the so-called "enlightened" groups led by Weston, Theil, Kilough, Kubik, Thiel, Hulme, and others, who imagine themselves to not be spiritually abusive, have been unable to keep members or draw in new cash cows members. After all, what this really boils down to is money flow. Disfellowshipping puts fear in "good standing" members and their wallets open continually open.

Those who have been under Rod Meredith's heavy hands over the decades have shared endless stories over the decades about how nasty and vindictive the man could be. One would have thought after his humiliating exile to Hawaii by Herbert Armstrong and his equally humiliating defeat in court after slandering Leona McNair and having the Worldwide Church of God pay all his legal fees, that he would have humbled himself. But no.  His nastiness carried over into breaking apart the Global Church of God after they got sick of his abuse and carried over when he lined up with other dissenters to form the Living Church of God. There his nastiness had a full reign as he was FINALLY in charge after so many decades of being sidelined and patted on the head as he was sent to field churches.

LCG members thought that finally after all the turmoil from the split from WCG to the break up of Global that peace had settled on the church. It did not last long.  The heavy-handedness and authoritarian control of Rod Meredith and the nepotism displayed through his family members brought about more dissension.

One of the people Meredith disfellowshipped was Tom Bacca from that worked in LCG's television department.

Bacca sent out a letter in 2013 preempting Meredith's soon coming "marking" from the pulpit.  Bacca wrote:
I know many of you will hear about me being declared an "enemy of the Church" which is NOT true... I've already been declared an "enemy of the Catholic Church" by my family many years ago... yet, I am actually an enemy of nobody except the evil one! 
I LOVE God's people, I do discuss biblical topics and issues, and if something is not 100 % according to God's word—I will say so... how horrible of me! I know LOTS of things that I could say, but I do NOT make it a habit of giving specifics about those things that I know... I just don't! I will NOT attack anyone, nor have I personally attacked anymore publicly already—I have been attacked myself though, by MANY for YEARS, and could have filed slander lawsuits against individuals... I never did, and I never will either—God says that we should NOT take our brethren to court, and that is why I forgave and forgot those incidents... even though I had many witnesses that would have testified in MY favor! 
I do understand if many of you, not knowing ALL the details or facts, do decide to unfriend me or block me—I will not be upset with any of you... I love you all, and I know that you will probably do as you're instructed. PLEASE do as you feel is best, that is what God would want you to do. I will be vindicated in time, I will trust in the God of Israel, He is my shield... so, I have total peace in this matter. 
Again, I love you all brethren... see you down the road :)
In Christian faith and love,
Thomas Baca II
One of the big myths that the church tried to pawn off on members over the decades was that when a member is kicked out of the church and disfellowshipped they would never have God's favor again and would live a life of misery and dejection.

Tom Bacca has bucked that trend and has done extremely well for him and his family AND  for those around him in the "world".

A reader here sent this:
I​ know​ Thomas​ Baca​ II​ very​ well, he​ has ​spent the​ last​ several years volunteering to​ help​ individuals and​ families​ suffering from​ homelessness and​ many​ other issues​ and​ teaching them​ about​ God.​ He​ served in​ Michigan for​ about​ 2​ years​ and​ then​ continued​ helping people​ in​ Asia.​ He​ is​ a​ giving and​ loving​ man.​ I​ have​ seen​ him​ serve​ others​ with​ my​ own eyes.​ He​ is​ honest and​ kind....He​ drove​ people​ in​ need​ of​ help​ during​ Michigan​ snowstorms​ during​ midnight and​ 3​ am​ to​ get​ to​ their​ jobs​ o​n farms and​ at​ dairys.​ He​ consuled people​ want​ing​ to​ commit suicide and​ helped them​ start​ their​ lives again.​ He​ gave​ money​ and​ care​ to​ elderly and​ widows.​ He​ helped​ people​ in​ other​ countries too.​ So​ much​ to​ say​ also​ but​ my​ English​ is​ not​ good​ enough.​ Follow​ link​ to​ see​ video​ Thomas​ made​ to​ also​ help​ a​ Michigan​ shelter.






Friday, November 20, 2020

Living Church of God: Yelp Review Lays It On The Line About LCG: "It does not have an outgoing love or concern for others."

 


This is a review that popped up on the Living Church of God's Yelp page. Let's see how long it stays there still someone in Charlotte gets butthurt and demands it be taken down.

Why should an LCG have concern for another person outside the church? After all, they are deceived and will receive their reward later. Let Christ help them whenever he returns.

I spent many years in LCG, and it was a very negative experience.  The two locations I was at was in was lower S.C. and East Texas.  This curch mindset is all about power. They believe their leaders are right under God. You should accept the ministry's power over you, and if it's wrong, God corrects it in His time, and therefore you should not question or be concerned with the problem.

In S.C., where I spent most of my time, I found some disturbing information about the group.  Their tithe system consists of three tithes, of which you give a third tithe every three years on a seven-year cycle.  The first tithe goes straight to the church. The second tithe goes towards the Feasts (and they say a tenth of that if you can afford it goes to them for paying for the meeting halls at the FOT). The third tithe, which I was first told, went to the needed; but found in a sermon later that they use it for whatever they want.  I was also told ministers did not have to give the third tithe because they consider themselves the continuation of the Levitical priesthood.  After sending these concerns into their headquarters in Charlotte, N.C., they had the local minister talk to me about my concerns.  The minister told me that 'if I had these questions before I was baptized, that probably my baptism wasn't valid.'

The experience in the Texas congregation was a sad one. On a cold winter day, I notice a lady sitting outside with sandals on sitting on the sidewalk near our church.  I talked with the lady, and she wanted to talk with the minister.  The minister said he could not help her that it was more of a psychological problem.  The lady did not argue and even said that made sense.  She began to walk away. I told the minister she has been drinking that I smelled the alcohol on her, and I was concern that she could have been driving.  He said, 'I don't think so.  We need to keep our fingerprints off this'.  He told me more than once to come in because I hesitated, and unfortunately, I did go inside; but thankfully, I told my wife, and she told me that yes, I should have stayed outside and helped her.  I then went to look for her, and if looks could kill, the minister was not happy about it.  I found the lady in a parking lot in a cranked-up car (she did have alcohol in the car).  I talked her out of the car with the help of a passer-by who ironically use to be part of LCG's mother church ( Worldwide Church of God).  He told her, 'those people don't care about you; they just care about the Sabbath .'  Thankfully we got her the help she needed.

My take away from this church is that they are all about the bottom line and whatever is best for them at that moment.  It does not have an outgoing love or concern for others.  This organization is more like a greedy corporation than a follower of Christ. I could tell more stories that are really negative about this group, but I think you get the point of this group.  This can be a really toxic group, and it is not isolated to these two areas. There are some really good people in these groups, and I hope one day they will be free from this unloving church.

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Tuesday, September 8, 2020

Sheldon Monson Needs To Repent, Join the One True Philadelphia Church and Follow Proper Church Government

 


God's one true prophet is speaking out against Sheldon Monson starting a new Church of God. Apparently, like all other COG upstarts, he did not start his group with "Philadlephia reasons." Only the true doubly-anointed prophet of the one true God did such a thing. This makes Herbert Armstrong and Bob Thiel as the ONLY true "Philadelphian" leaders in Church of God history.

09/06/20 a.m Banned by HWA, an anti-COG site, posted the following related to Sheldon Munson and LCG::

During the live streaming of services, September 5th at 2:00pm EDT, for the "COG Broadcast YouTube Channel." Sheldon Monson officially announced the formation of the newest Church of God group to hit the world scene. After some time of discussion and because of their origin, they decided the best title for their new group should be "Church of God Assembly." This was quite predictable considering the hint dropping every week during Sheldon's personal services on YouTube. ... NDA

There was no website for Sheldon Munson's group when I just checked, but presumably there will be. This group does not seem to have formed for Philadelphian reasons, as neither it nor LCG properly accept what the Bible teaches on church government. However, perhaps one or both of them will change.

Did you know that Herbert Armstrong and Rod Meredith both referred to a ONE TRUE leader to come in the future and BOTH of them were referring to Bob Thiel? 


Here is that proof:

Laodicea Means "People Decide"

The Bible tells that there will be an overlapping succession of seven churches, often called Church eras. If the Philadelphia era was predominant until the time that Herbert W. Armstrong was alive, this would mean that the last of the seven churches, Laodicea, would be predominant now.

During this Laodicean time, there have been several approaches taken by groups that had their origins in the old WCG.

Many people decided to become independent. And many of those independents seem to feel that they are the most faithful to the teachings of the old WCG. Most have a few points they believe disqualifies others as they decide what is important. Herbert W. Armstrong, who many of them claim to be faithfully following, did not approve of the concept of "independent Christians" in that sense.

Some feel that the apostasy that occurred after the death of Herbert Armstrong was because of the type of governance he had in place. Some of those people have become independent or formed committee ran churches. Another type of governance that Herbert Armstrong condemned (Mystery of the Ages, Dodd & Mead, 1985, p. 247, quoted earlier above).

However, from the very beginning within the Church of God people left and would not listen to God's leaders. As the Apostle John wrote in 3 John 9-11 (which was quoted earlier in this article).

And if people thought that they were Christians when they ignored the Apostle John, how much more do many do so today?

The Apostle John penned the Book of Revelation. And in Revelation 3:14 he used the term "Laodikeus." This differs from how he normally started the letters to the other six churches (Revelation 2 & 3), because he used a plural term--he called them Laodiceans. This plurality, contrasted with the lack of it in the introductions to the other six churches, indicates that Laodicea is composed of divided groups.

Furthermore, according to Strong's Greek concordance, Laodicea is a combination of two words, laos which it defines as "people" and dike, which is defined by Strong's as "right," "judgment," "punish," and "vengeance." And also according to Strong's Greek concordance, Laodiceans is the plural of that.

Smith's Bible Dictionary defines Laodicea to mean "justice of the people". Might the term Laodiceans convey that the predominant characteristic of this Church is that peoples rule, peoples judge, or, in fact that the peoples change the Church's direction? 

I personally have long felt that the term Laodicea conveys a difference in governance and direction. Since the Philadelphians are admonished to "Hold fast what you have" (Revelation 3:11) and the Laodiceans say, "I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing" (vs. 17) it would seem that most Laodiceans have rejected other biblical truths as well (even when they explain there positions on governance they seem to misunderstand the Bible).

Now what about some of those few "hierarchical" groups calling themselves some type of Church of God which claim to have a hierarchical form of governance? Well, in nearly all of these cases, it seems that the "leaders decided" to appoint themselves to positions that they were never ordained/appointed to (perhaps, I should add here that I am NOT a self-appointed church writer--for some information on that, please see Who is COGwriter?).

I bet you did not know that Bob Thiel is of a HIGHER AUTHORITY than the fake self-appointed COG prophets like Flurry and Pack, did you? 

For example, PCG's Gerald Flurry declared himself a prophet, RCG's David Pack declared himself an apostle, CGPFK's Ronald Weinland declared himself a prophet and one of the two witnesses, and there are some lessor known individuals who have done something similar--none of which, as far as I have been able to tell, had hands laid upon them for those roles. Not only will none of these people accept the authority of any who were anointed by others to a higher role than they have, they seem to have a variety of practices suggesting a harsher and non-biblically correct form of governance.  

And if there is a non-self anointed apostle or prophet in the genuine COG (which are levels above evangelists), all should follow him--and there is one who heads the Continuing Church of God.

The O N E  M A N at this time that Herbert Armstrong and Dr. Meredith referred to is Dr. Bob Thiel. God used Herbert W. Armstrong to establish the Philadelphian phase, an evangelist to lead the transitional phase, and a Bob Thiel to lead the  final phase of the work. Dr. Thiel is proclaiming Christ's Gospel of the Kingdom by radio, via YouTube "television," via internet articles, in person, and in print as he leads the Continuing Church of God.

It is time for all of you backsliding Laodicean COG members to get on your knees and repent from following all the liars presently leading Churches of God and turn to the One Holy Apostolic Doubly Blessed Church of God that was prophesied by Herbert Armstrong and Rod Meredith to arise in the end times.

Aren't we blessed to be living in such amazing prophetic times!!!!!!