Sunday, October 9, 2011

Why Is The COG Blinded To It's Own False Prophets?



Prophet Thiel has up a post mocking the followers of Harold Camping again.  Camping has predicted again, the the end is coming on October 21st of this year.  We all got to witness the failure of his previous announcement earlier this year.  We saw the lives destroyed by it.  Thiel is at least right that we will see him fail again on October 21.

Thiel rightly points out the obvious failures and how we should not support such false prophets:

But Jesus cannot return on October 21, 2011 and it was not God who led Harold Camping to that false May 21, 2011 date.

This will be at least the third time that Harold Camping will be proven wrong.   Back in May 2011, both the Washington Post and MSNBC linked to my article Harold Camping’s Teachings About the End of the World Do Not Agree with the Bible to provide documented biblical reasons for his errors.  Of course, he is likely to get less publicity this month than he did last May.

Basically, because he seemingly prefers his own imaginations to the truth of the Bible, Harold Camping seems to me to load one misleading calculation onto other misleading information to get to the wrong answer. He should not be listened to by those that actually believe the Bible.

How conveniently Thiel ignores the hundreds of failed false prophecies that Herbert Armstrong, Rod Meredith, Herman Hoeh, Dean Blackwell, Gerald Waterhouse and others have uttered in the past.  These do not even include the mind numbingly STUPID current predictions by Weinland, Pack and Steven's!

Thiel continues:

The iniquity of false prophets such as Harold Camping and others (like some with the Mayan 2012 date) will turn various people off about prophecy (Ronald Weinland also comes to mind). More will feel comfortable being scoffers (Harold Camping has caused atheists to rejoice and mock). And this rise of scoffers who will not believe in prophecy is also foretold in the Bible by the Apostle Peter:
So what about  the iniquities of false prophet Rod Meredith which have turned people off and destroyed lives?  People mock Meredith today because of his lies.  If Thiel really took his Bible seriously and did as his scriptures tell him, then he would reject Rod Meredith for the false prophet he is.  Scriptures states that if a man utters even ONE false prophecy then he is a liar and not to be followed.  So why is Thiel still following a liar?

For a great list of over 209 documented failed prophecies of Armstrongism check this out: The Most Comprehensive Listing of Herbert Armstrong's 52 year record of False Prophesies ever made.

or this:  End of the world prophecies 26 failed predictions between 1921 and 1990 CE

or this:  False Prophecy - Enough Is Enough

or this:  A History of Failed Prophecies and Doomsdays

or this:  Did Herbert Armstrong Set Dates?

or this:  WAS HERBERT W. ARMSTRONG REALLY AN APOSTLE?

or this:  The Danger of False Prophets How to recognize a false prophet.







Thiel: God Caused Gas Prices To Drop So LCG Could Go To The Feast



I never cease to be amazed at the magical "god" that works behind the scenes for COG members. In their eyes everything that happens around them is either controlled by their "god" or by satan.

We are now close to the Feast of Tabernacles, the yearly COG extravaganza for worldwide vacations and festivals of gluttony and excess.  God's Apostle always said that as future Kings and Priests we are to have the best that the world has to offer.  We deserve to travel to exotic locations! 

So in order for that to happen God has personally had a hand in lowering the gas prices so that LCGers can have more money to spend at the Feast or to turn in for excess second tither.  I can only imagine that if gas prices had went up it would have been satan''s attempt at preventing the True Church of God from attending the Feast.

Thiel's magical "god" has done the following for him and the Living Church of God.

For the last several years, oil prices have dropped right around the time of the fall Holy Days (fall in the northern hemisphere, that is). This year appears to be the same. Gasoline (petrol) prices have been dropping for the last several weeks now. Monday, oil reached its lowest price since September 2010. It ended trading in New York at $78 per barrel. Experts believe it will stay low to year’s end (Associated Press, October 3, 2011).
Thousands of years ago, God gave His people the command to keep His annual festivals, including the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 23). These days were to be statutes “forever” and blessings were promised to those who keep them, and the rest of God’s laws (Deuteronomy 14:29).

It is both interesting and encouraging to see a trend in dropping gasoline prices (which some would call “chance”) just prior to the “pilgrim” Feast of Tabernacles–a time when God’s people are commanded to travel to locations where He has chosen to place His name (Deuteronomy 14:22-26). In allowing fuel prices to drop, God is blessing the obedience of His people who are willing to travel to worship Him at this very important time of year.

Dennis Says: "Ok, Ok,...I Still Miss It!"




OK, OK...I still miss it.

What is it about the Fall Festival season that still finds a very conscious or at least subconscious place in our former WCG minds?  I always have looked forward to Fall in any place I lived and for half my life at least Fall meant Feast of Tabernacles.  I always like the Feast of Trumpets because plainly it could be, whether should be, linked to the Second Coming of Jesus just any time at the last trump.  Atonement, not so much except it was not uncommon to leave that night or at the latest, the next day for the Feast of Tabernacles somewhere.

I still have relatives who physically linger around the edges of the COG and the Festivals even though they never attend church during the year and really don't believe much in it.  Yet it is not uncommon for them to get that old "Feast Fever" and head off to, not just some local site, but some foreign country of the Islands, to "keep the Feast."   I know some who go to festival sites yet don't go to church at that that site at all!  How nuts is that.  Well, really not nuts if you have to endure the worn out old routine of 3 songs, opening prayer, sermonette, announcements, special music, nuther song, sermon that is over long before the guy gets finished and nuther song with hurry up and pray ending.  

But Fall feels like the Feast to me and I can tell you without looking which full moon is it! 

Even the new and improved WCG which repudiates the crazy thing still finds Fall time to Cruise for Jesus.  You can't tell me that is not a leftover need to get out of Dodge in the Fall.  Old habits die hard.



I think I miss the crowd with the common hope.  It was a great hope you know.  The world is indeed nuts and a clean up is in order.  I loved seeing all the friends, new and old from churches long since transferred from.  Friends in WCG seemed to be true friends indeed to me and I can't say i don't miss them.  If I don't miss someone, it's the guys i went to college with who went on to be pastors and still are either in some splinter or sliver or simply off on their own repeating the same old story over and over still without the training or credentials to know whereof they speak.  Oh well, it's a living.

I have to say, I miss teaching and giving those sermons to thousands. I can only speak for myself, but I had fun. Tried to pick practical topics and always found a way to get around speaking about the assigned topic that was given each towards the latter years from "HQ."  I guess they were afraid of who would really say what so they told them what to say.  My last real sermon, "The Politics of the New Testament" at Myrtle Beach, was my last really great time for me in teaching. I ended up saying a bit too much and shortly after labeled as knowing a lot about Jesus, but not knowing Jesus.  Oh well, screw it. To me, knowing a lot about Jesus and knowing Jesus are one in the same unless one goes into some kind of silly evangelical fourth dimension.   However remind me to clean up my explanation of how Matthew came up with his Virgin Birth 'prophecy.'  And never, never say,  "come on folks, where DO babies come from" to a COG audience or administration  :(
It was still fun and I'm still right.

I did hear one minister, still a minister THREE TIMES in THREE FEASTS give the same sermon!!!  As soon as he said, "I'm going to show you something you have never seen before and will never see again."  He then opened a peanut and ate it.  The third time I got up and took a walk on the beach. Much nicer.

I still have friends from the past however I rarely hear from them.  When I call on occasion, we remember the good old days and realize how old we have gotten.  After all, with Jesus coming shortly, soon and 3-5, 10 at the most, no more than 15 and 20 tops....we weren't supposed to start falling apart.  Some have weathered aging well and others, not so much..ha.    But like the tractor pull at the fair that has the sliding weight that bogs you down eventually and says, "you know I'm going to get you," nothing lasts.

But what is the pull of it all.  I was not as much a fan of the Spring Holydays.  Passover and UB was taught from on high in such a negative manner.  Somber, sober and Stiffling.  Every year someone somewhere had to argue over what day really was the Passover and what really was and was not leavening.  I had to conduct the funeral service we called the Passover and read an hours worth of script that Jesus may or many not have said since only one gospel reports any of it.  Hoping one did not get memberstinkyfeet for the footwashing was always a hoot!

No, I miss the Feast.  The reasons seem deeply set and it's not because I know I should be there and am rebellious.  I know it is not necessary and it's origins are nothing what the COG's think.  I seriously doubt they really point to all the glorious things we thought they did.  If they do, "time is short," has a meaning different from what "time is short" means to me. 

And of course, Second tithe was really play money and only turned back into real money when we left after the first service on the Last Great Day because we wanted to get home and had to get back to work.  Only the really loyal stayed until 4:30 PM and left that evening.

Anyway, it's a lonely time of year for me personally.  I expect it is for others too and even those who rail against their church experience. 

I get a little depressed this time of year. What were all those years about anyway?  Was it all one big waste of time and energy?  Yes and no?  I didn't ever see or even hear about "drunken ministers" or "drunken members."  I don't say it wasn't so.  I just didn't hang with that crowd.  It was a challenge at times keeping track of my teen sons but they still speak fondly of their WCG Festival experiences, one even returning to Jekyll a couple years ago just to feel the feelings.

At any rate.  Nothing wrong with feeling a bit nostalgic.  It is amazing to me however the lengths some who do not attend and do not believe in the festivals will go to, to attend one or at least find a reason to take that great Fall vacation to some amazing place they never would have gone to for any other reason.

Jesus, if you are listening...Soon would really be a good time to return and shut us all up.

Dennis C. Diehl

Idiots In The Pulpit: Smurfs Can Cause Demon Possesion



Did you know that the Smurfs and My Little Pony are agents of Satan
and can cause demons to enter the minds of your children?