Tuesday, January 15, 2013

World Tomorrow Men Will Rule, Women Not So Much If At All


Remember how we were taught the story on how when we are resurrected as gods that we would be rulers of worlds?  Remember HWA's power charts on leadership?

Here is a reminder.  Pay attention to HWA's wording at the end.  Women get the short shift again which was conveniently glossed over in all my years in the organization.  Have you ever noticed that Armstrongism is all about power?  Power over others by forced rule.  Law vs grace. Law vs freedom.

The strident law keepers on Yahoo are trotting this silliness out in order to prepare themselves to be world class rulers.

it becomes plain that Abraham will be given a greater position of authority in God’s Kingdom than David - and that he will be over both Israelites and Gentiles. He is “father” of Gentile converts as well as Israelites. It is plainly indicates that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, will function as a team, with Abraham as chairman of the team, next under Christ in the coming world Government of God. Jesus Himself said, definitely, that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob shall be in that Kingdom (Luke 13:28 ). Joseph qualified in a special way, but we shall come back to him a little later.
under Christ as King of kings, and under Christ’s top team - will be Moses over all organized national and international government; and Elijah, over all organized church, religious and educational activity.

Apparently HWA saw nothing wrong with the fact that 2000 years have went by and humanity has increased in education and knowledge, yet Moses will be instructing the world how to run their governments according to the Egyptian style from 2,000+ years ago.  Elijah will be whipping churches and educational institutions into shape according to the methods of education 2,000+ years ago.  Since most were uneducated and illiterate, its sure going to make for an interesting world tomorrow!

King David, resurrected, immortal, under Moses, over all twelve nations of Israel. Jeremiah 30:9; Ezekiel 34:23-24; 37:24-25. Each of the original twelve apostles will be king, under David, over one of these then super-prosperous nations. Matthew 19:28. Under the apostles, each now king over a great nation, will be the rulers over districts, states, shires, counties or provinces, and over cities.
These will be the true COG members who qualified.  They treated people like crap all their lives, yet will be given cities to rule over.  Spare us please!

But what of all the Gentile nations? Who will be given top positions of rule over them? There is strong indication - not a definite, specific statement -but indication, according to principles and specific assignments that are revealed, that the Prophet Daniel will be made king over them all, directly under Moses
It seems evident, that Joseph will be made director of the world’s economy - its agriculture, its industry, its technology, and its commerce - as well as its money and monetary system. These systems will be on the international level, the same in every nation.

Joseph will be teaching the worlds economies how to function according to Egyptian desert life?

Job will be in charge of restoring the destroyed cities of the world.  Apparently this is because his entire family and household was destroyed and he had to rebuild it.  The lengths the Church went to "prove" this kind of malarkey is appalling!

Christ, Himself, will be ruling from Jerusalem. Stationed there with Christ, under immediate direction of Elijah, it is indicated, will be those changed to Spirit chosen by Christ to constitute the Headquarters Church. Revelation 3:12 indicates those of this " Philadelphia ” era will be pillars in that Headquarters Church. Next, in this all-important Headquarters Church organization, working with and directly under Elijah, it appears, will be the resurrected John the Baptist. He came “in the power and spirit of (Elijah)” Luke 1:17. Of him, Jesus said, “Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist ...” Matthew 11:11. He was the Elijah prophesied to come. Matthew 17:10 -13; and 11:7-11.
Jesus Christ is going to have his hands full if HQ leaders of the different COGs all converge on Jerusalem. The corruption, greed, back stabbing and outright criminal activity will make for one super colossal HQ!  Will  Jesus Christ be kept out of the loop like they did with HWA?


Someone may ask, “What about the women?” Yes, there were outstanding women- Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel. There were Miriam, Deborah, and others. Sarah is called the mother of righteous women in the New Testament I Peter 3:6. Deborah actually judged, or ruled  Israel for a time. Their status in the Kingdom will be the same as men. We would certainly suppose that women such as these will be given high position and great honor in the Kingdom. But we do not presume, in this present writing, to suggest what it shall be.
Poor, dumb women.  Its better to keep you barefoot and pregnant than to have you rule over the men of the church or the world.

Doesn't this stuff sound incredibly silly now that you are no longer part of the myths of Armstrongism?



Monday, January 14, 2013

Weinland Juror: Ron, Laura, Audra, Jeremy, Church Elders -YOU PEOPLE ARE REPULSIVE TRASH.



From: False Prophet Ron Weinland

bags juror #199 says:
The reason I spend a little time on the blog and continue to do so is the simple fact of trying to help bring Ron and the Weinland Clan all the way down. They need to be eliminated to a point where NOBODY IS SENDING THEM ANY MONEY.

What I saw in court was enough to make anyone sick. What he does is wRONg, wRONg, wRONg!!! As I stated to Mike before just get one person out and then another will follow and another. It will be an exhausting and tedious task but I am sure followers are looking at this blog. We have witnessed this. Some may be drive by rubber necking but they are looking and maybe thinking about trying to be rational and getting ready to put their running shoes on.

I think Ron himself may look at the blog. If not he may have others keeping an eye out. Who knows? What else does he have to do all day? He may need some intel so he can gear his sermons and cover himself a bit.????? He obviously knows this blog is out there and cast some type of voodoo magical spell on people here which has not worked. Better luck next time, ya fire breathing fool!! I think the average person would look if there was a blog about them.

I want to see a huge injustice fixed just as everyone else here does. The IRS could only fix part of Ron’s overall fraudulent scheme. The IRS may have been a crippling blow to Ron but who knows what amount of money he has stashed or what amount continues coming in. You can assume it is being closely watched. The overall opinion of Ron with the jurors? It would be fair to say that he is looked at as a con-artist scumbag that should have had more charges brought upon him and his Clan. My opinion is that they should ALL be sitting in prison. Wife, daughter, son, elders and ALL! YOU PEOPLE ARE REPULSIVE TRASH.

Dave Pack Gloats That Virtually ALL Former and Splinter COG members Will Join His Group Within 1-2 Years!



After a long dry spell the apostle Dave is back gloating about what a magnificent Church he leads.  It has been a great year for the TRUE Christians in the RCG who God favors highly while punishing the pagan filth around the rest of the world. RCG members are set apart from the evil hitting the world right now because they are soooooooooooooooo special.  The called out ones, the chosen few, the elite, the future rulers of space worlds and gods to be.
The year 2012 is now behind us. What a wonderful year it was for God’s Church. Sadly, it was the worst year on record for all nations of Earth. The masses are frightened as never before about what lies in store for the world—and themselves. Sadly, few understand and almost no one is preparing for the “snare” that Jesus Christ warned of in Luke 21:35 that will “come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.” The result will be that few will “escape all these things” (vs. 36) that Jesus described. Millions in the world, but also many of God’s people, think they are “spiritually prepared,” yet will soon wish they had been more careful—more thoughtful—about their spiritual condition.
All of those foolish COG groups that split off and formed irrelevant groups like United Church of God, Living Church of God and Philadelphia Church of God have absolutely NO fruit to show for their apostasy.  Only Dave has had mind numbing growth unparalleled in the COG universe!

The organizations (small, medium and large) that formed from the Worldwide Church of God in the wake of the apostasy grew very little or in most cases not at all in 2012! In fact many, or even most, declined in size, and in virtually all well-established categories of measuring fruit. Ironically, these organizations each month post their Member Letters before the whole world on their websites in hopes that such “trolling” for members will yield growth. (Why else would one address a letter to one set of people and then send it to everyone else?) But, with God having supplied no fruit to back up their organizations—since He is not leading them—the growth never comes. How is it that they are not embarrassed—ashamed—to post such hollow letters?
I  am, sure Dave is cowering in his shoes right now with the prospect of prophet Thiel's new group. Whats with the "trolling" accusation? That is certainly rich coming from a church that has bragged about the ministers and members they have stolen from UCG and others recently.

But we DO have the fruit—TREMENDOUS fruit!—that the other organizations lack. This is because we also DO have God’s leadership, having Christ as the Head of the Church. Hence the reason for only ONE letter annually like this one written to the splinters—not also written to members and co-workers! Our single goal is to show the fruit of God’s Spirit and leadership at work here to those who care—for those who want to know what they are missing.

Dave stupidly feels that there are thousands and thousands of confused COG members out there looking for a new group to go to.  Never fear, Dave is here!  Dave is ready to welcome all of the disillusioned into his group with open offering envelopes waiting.

Today, literally thousands of former WCG members are wondering where to attend—what to do. While some no longer care about the doctrines, traditions, standards—and fruit—of an organization, many still do. These brethren would be carefully examining available options, looking for what they were taught and once enjoyed under Mr. Armstrong’s leadership of the Church. They know these things are visible only to those looking for them! Understanding Christ is not divided, and that all who are led by God’s Spirit will ultimately walk in truth, and “speak the same thing” (I Cor. 1:10, 13), they become candidates to find the one place where Jesus Christ is truly the Head of His unified Church and Body.

The delusional idiot then goes on to quote all kinds of statistics on his amazing cult.  Then he gets into the new cable stations he will soon be broadcasting on. He naively assumes that his viewing audience is going to increase by the millions  because of the number of subscribers. The multiple missions of viewers he is claiming as his own will NEVER watch his idiotic program!

Looking ahead in 2013, an immensely powerful worldwide expansion of The World to Come approaches! In fact, here comes TREMENDOUS NEWS! We are finalizing plans to be on two—TWO!—more television networks: (1) The Word Network—and on January 24!!!—with satellite broadcasting coverage in well over 200 countries and territories, including all of North and Central America, the Caribbean, Europe, Africa, Australia, the Middle East and all of Asia. (2) Grace TV—set to begin February 17—which reaches over 70% of all Canadian households! This network is Canada’s largest provider of primetime Christian programming, and it will be our first Sunday morning primetime slot for The World to Come.

According to a 2010 report by IDATE Consulting & Research, there will be an estimated 1.2 billion households with at least one television around the globe in 2013. In the U.S. alone, The Word Network will reach 86 million of 114 million TV homes via cable and DIRECTV (this is in addition to our current ION coverage). Latin America has a potential 132.8 million TV households. Europe has 260.9 million. There are another 10.7 million in South Africa. Australia has 120 million, with the rest of Asia having another 565.7 million TV households. Although everyone with a television does not have satellite reception, these figures speak volumes as to the potential magnitude of this new worldwide network. To maximize impact, we chose an overnight time slot in the U.S., which airs during the morning hours in Europe and South Africa, and through the prime evening hours across Australia and the Far East.

Dave then moves on to talk about dramatic "healings" happening in his group.  It is quit obvious reading these that there are no healings going on in any of the splinter groups.  That is the impression Dave is trying to get across.

He has had blind people given sight, wheelchair bound people walking again.  These pale in comparison to a church member who was in a head on collision that did not injure them because the van "passed through" their vehicle.

While carpooling home from services two members were miraculously protected. A van suddenly appeared directly behind them, traveling at such a high rate of speed that a collision was unavoidable. As the van made contact with their rear bumper, instead of hearing a loud crash, they heard what they described as a “swoosh.” The van had passed through their car, appearing immediately in front of them! The van continued speeding down the road and then exited the highway, leaving the two ladies unharmed and the vehicle completely unscratched. On a personal note, this event mirrors exactly miracles both Mr. Dale Schurter and I have experienced and reported to the Church.

Then to top it off Dave brags that he was able to turn a tornado away from the entire city of Wadsworth so that it went on to kill and damage others. He also claims to have the power to have turned Hurricane Sandy by 90 degrees so that it would not make its way into Wadsworth!  When pigs fly!

Finally, at Headquarters we often read of God protecting His people around the world from storms, wildfires, flooding, hurricanes and other weather disasters, but in the relatively peaceful area of northeast Ohio, there seemed not to be the same need for intervention. Tuesday, July 3, was an exception. Just after 11:00 a.m. the National Weather Service issued a severe thunderstorm warning for Wadsworth and surrounding areas. Doppler radar showed a giant storm cell capable of producing a tornado heading directly toward the city from the northwest. Minutes later it became more serious when an official tornado warning was given, meaning a tornado in the area was visible on radar—and only 10 miles from Headquarters and the building project, moving straight toward us. All HQ employees moved to the basement as the storm continued on its projected path. There, I asked for God’s protection over His people through the dangerous storm, and that He would protect the present Headquarters building and the site of the future campus, acknowledging that it is God whom we ultimately rely on for protection. It soon became evident that God had at that moment intervened. Right after the prayer, the HQ staff saw that the storm (via radar online) had dramatically changed direction—during the prayer!—from its southeasterly course to nearly due south, and then later turned again to continue moving easterly to the south of Wadsworth. The city was entirely untouched by the tornado! We received only a little rain. Two staff members (who were off-site meeting with people involved in the construction project) actually witnessed the tornado from the west side of town as it turned south to go under the city. Of course, everyone was tremendously inspired to see God’s clear hand of intervention for His people and Work. It was truly faith-building. So was watching Hurricane Sandy suddenly turn 90 degrees north while still in Pennsylvania without which turn there would have been enormous damage to our new building. This is because the storm was coming from the east where the installed glass was not ready for it on the building’s west side.

Yes sir!  God is Only on Dave's side.  Those pussy evangelists in Edmond and Charlotte cannot produce such miracles as Big Dave can!  Big Dave can also wrestle with demons and cast them out too!

None of this speaks to regular dramatic healings, demons cast out, many miracles, open doors, blessings and incredible GROWTH in all categories.
Dave then goes on to claim his church within the next 1-2 years will be the largest and most effective church of God ever.  Thousands upon thousands of former member will be returning to it.  Eventually every single COG member who still has God's spirit in them will be leaving their group and coming to Dave's. 

An unbelievably powerful Work is underway in The Restored Church of God. This is because we did not break the grand pattern set by Mr. Armstrong—any of it! It is because Jesus Christ actually does HEAD this Church. In one to two years maximum, the profile of God’s Church and true Work on Earth will be beyond imagination. It will take your breath and leave your ears ringing. The good news is that more ministers and members are leaving ALL of the splinters to return to God’s one Church. Eventually ALL with God’s Spirit—every single person—will return to His Church. To see more and more people waking up to the false doctrine, wrong standards, poor fruits and continually worsening condition of their organizations has been most encouraging. Many thousands will join us! (In fact, prophecy reveals this.) This means our power, impact and growth will be further affected upward. We expect to be the largest presence—the loudest voice!—in religious television in the world some time in 2014. And this will be backed up by the largest amount of literature ever compiled by any single organization on the face of the earth.
You can read the entire myth here:  The Restored Church of God: Much Fruit—Proof God Leads This Church!

Sunday, January 13, 2013

Ron Weinerdude Weinland: Babies Conceived Now Will Be Born After Christ Returns in May 2013



I have to hand it to Mike over at Don't Drink the Flavor Aid Served By False Prophets for his patience in sitting down and listening to the convicted felon Ron Wienland's sermon each week.  Listening to 2 hours of mindless stupidity has to be taxing on the brain.

Mike posted today about Weinerdudes sermon this past Saturday.  The one thing that stood out was his comment about women in his cult delaying having babies.

Many PKG women have continually deferred having children since the end-time has been imminent for several years now.  Ron read an email he composed on the topic.  Basically, it’s between the husband and wife and God, and other members are not to judge them for doing it.  
 Then Weinerdude opens his mouth and makes a totally absurd comment:

Ron suggested that any child conceived now would be born after Christ returns in May.
How can supposedly relatively sane people sit there and listen to this kind of idiotic preaching?