Tuesday, May 22, 2018

Dave Pack's Rockford Miracle



Dave has this to say about his time in the Rockford IL church area.



“A lot of brethren in the Rockford congregation lived along the big, wide Rock River, which ran through Rockford, and then southwest for at least 100 miles until it emptied into the Mississippi River. It was a long, beautiful drive, and I looked forward to every time I could do it.
“Early one morning I took off to visit, heading down Highway 2. There were stretches of road where on the right side was a steep embankment, and on the left side was a long, sharp drop-off down to the river’s edge, and a guardrail. The traffic would often back up in this area because it was a two-lane highway—and there were really no shoulders in this stretch of the road.
“A young man’s negligence and impatience almost got him killed. I pulled out to pass from behind a truck that was blocking my view, and realized immediately that I could not clear the truck and return to my lane in time. I had not seen a pick-up truck barreling toward me. I tried to slow back into the spot just vacated, but a Cadillac had filled in behind me.
“There was absolutely nothing I could do—I could not go left or right. No time remaining, the truck would now hit me head on—except nothing happened. As it reached me, both of us going about 60 mph, it simply passed right through my vehicle. One moment it was in front of my hood, the next it was in my rearview mirror.
“My life had been spared by divine intervention! I have never doubted what happened that day in 1974. I only wonder if anyone else involved was aware as I was of what had occurred.
“Coupled with other interventions to spare my life, I am living proof that God heals and delivers, sometimes even when it is partly to protect us from ourselves.”

Monday, May 21, 2018

The "Common Ploy" and "Golly...all those books"

" Anonymous said...

"I can't help noticing how Dennis's new pic has him with his reading glasses on, plus all those books in the background. That's a common ploy used by the XCOG leaders including Herb, Flurry, Tkach and Dave.

Golly, they must be very smart and knowledgeable having all those books in the background. I might do the same by having a pic of myself in a library, a real big library."


...too late



2015

  The picture was taken in the Portland Public Library, where I also happen to  live (Portland, not the library :) and where Herbert Armstrong did his "six months of intensive study" leading to the WCG. That was the original point.  I found the most likely spot in the theology section where HWA may have sat in perhaps the same setting.  I found "Mystery of the Ages" on the shelf behind me and held it upside down to make a point on it being more of a mystery than we thought. 

The glasses are untypically down and in the mode of "well now, what have we here" as I hold the book. I don't really wear my glasses like that nor have the attitude you falsely and ignorantly assign to it. I'll tell the Portland Library Librarian you thought all the books on the shelf were a nice intellectual touch. I tried hard to find a location in the library that had books where I could look exceptionally very smart and intellectual.  Portland library is a really big one so come on down and you can have your picture taken in the children's section.


Sunday, May 20, 2018

The Shyster Apostle Dave C Pack


Shyster /ˈʃstər/ is a slang word for someone who acts in a disreputable, unethical, or unscrupulous way, especially in the practice of law, sometimes also politics or business.

...or religion


Just a reminder as to the intent of the story of Ananias and Sapphira .  The story is not literally true.  You can't kill brethren in church , haul them out to the dumpster and dispose of them and not expect some inquiry from the Romans who might not take kindly to murder in the Church of God, (The Holy Spirit did it.  Uh huh)  or from relatives who might wonder why their mom and dad, uncle and aunt, son or daughter , grandpa or grandma did not come home from church today.

And too...any other sin, doubt or denial about Jesus can be forgiven or overlooked, but this one on MONIES not  given to the Apostles is a death wish. Imagine that!




While the intent of the story escapes the modern reader, the simple fact is that it would not have escaped the original audience. The story was written to warn the readers in Luke and Paul's community of believers about following Peter instead of Paul. 

If you think Peter and Paul both spoke the same thing and loved each other, you haven't done your homework. Luke was making fun of the "Great Apostle Peter" with a tale for his readers about two church people who said they would do one thing...give all to the church, and did another...held back.  Even as a kid I never understood this withholding of what was theirs to be a crime worthy of death.  At any rate, the irony in the story that it is The Great Peter pronouncing judgment on these folk when everyone also knew that Peter said HE would do one thing...never leave Jesus, and did another...denied  him.

In other words, don't follow Peter.

The idea of all things common was very short lived phenomenon in the early church who thought Jesus was going to return almost any minute.  It was not a long term practice nor did they think it would be.  I am sure many sincere people gave then and lost their shirts to the early Apostles as well as we all know Jesus did not return for them.

As time went on and on and Jesus did not return  the apologetics were written into the cannon such as:

2 Peter 3:
Most scholars agree that 2 Peter is a forgery, or to be more kind, pseudopigraphical, , written long after Peter was gone but in his name. It was written to address the problem of Jesus not having returned and in classic form blamed the members or scoffers who noticed Jesus had not returned and their friends in the church were dying off.  They are accused of being willingly ignorant and should have understood that a day with God is not the same as a day for man.  Of course they were not told this fact until after Jesus had failed to return in a timely manner. This is a pure apologetic written by someone in the name of Peter later in church history when , true to form, the Church could not admit to being simply  mistaken, so they had to rewrite the story which also blamed those who brought Jesus failure to return "soon" to their attention.

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
(They want to disobey God so they scoff.  Just like scientists want to believe in evolution so they can sin. Actually they were just noticing the obvious)


And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
(Which was a perfectly legit question since Paul and the Apostles were very wrong their  own preaching on the topic and it became obvious.  )


For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
(Whatever that means. They weren't really willingly ignorant.  They just spoke up to the obvious.)


Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
(You're just trying to scare us aren't you?  Just admit you were mistaken and drop the fear tactics)


But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
(Well, why did you not tell us that back when we were giving all things common because a day back then was a day. Now you tell us it's not really a day.  Or did you just make this up now?)


The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
(Brethren,  you should be glad.  God is giving us more time.)

In time the idea of "All things common" fell by the wayside and folk went back to living responsible lives in their faith but older and wiser in such matters. As more wealthy, educated and financially savy types came into the church, who would never give their wealth in such a way, the practice faded into history.  

The same lesson will be learned by those in RCG who believe that Jesus is going to return "soon" and obey the foolish Shepherd Dave Pack in the practice of all things common.