Dear Member and Minister
Pick One Only
"Gone will be study papers and committees to continue Joe Tkach’s
policy of examining all doctrine to “see where Mr. Armstrong may have been
wrong.” And at these conferences there will be
no voting on budgets, leaders, policies, changes in bylaws, and other
unscriptural time-wasting nonsense brought by the devil that only serve
to divide and confuse God’s ministers and God’s people"
Impostle David C. Pack
or
The admonition of
scripture to the individual is to obtain a wide range of input, opinions
and facts before coming to a conclusion and making a final decisions. Confer
with your spouse, friends, and relatives. Seek much legal advice, get a second
and third opinion and meet with professionals. Obtain a multitude of published
documents, books and findings. Never rely on the advice of any one doctor,
lawyer or instructor.
AND NEVER RELY ON ONE MAN
FILTERING YOUR WORLD THOUGH HIS SHALLOW AND NARROW MIND FOR YOU!
Proverbs 1:5
A wise man will hear and will
increase learning. And a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels.
Proverbs 15:22
Without counsel purposes are
disappointed; but in the multitude of counselors they are established
1 Thess 5:21
Prove all things; hold fast that
which is good.
This scripture is clearly about
proving what church ministry says in sermons and sermonettes and in this case,
the foolish babble that comes out of IMpostle Pack's mouth every week.
IMpostle Dave says there will be no voting on
budgets. This will assure that your hard
earned money is spent without your permission on things you would not spend it
on for things you would not spend it for.
Dave, as always intends to do exactly as he wishes. He will get your church in so much trouble
you won't believe it. What kind of an
organization of any has NO oversight, NO input allowed financially and ONE man
making all the decisions. You are true
fools in every sense, Biblical or otherwise if you fall for this con.
IMpostle Dave says you will never get to voice an opinion
about who leads you. Only he can lead.
He has assigned all other ministers everywhere to IMpostle Pack
assistants and only if you are worthy.
Remember, only WORTHY YOUTH get to go to summer camp so how the hell
worthy do you think you will have to prove to IMpostle Pack YOU ARE to get to
attach yourself to him.
Members, YOU will
get the minister that the IMpostle Dave says you get. Like Dave himself , who daily had people
calling HQ in days gone buy to save them from Dave or at times called me to ask
for help , you will be stuck. If you get
a foolish yes man for a minister, you're stuck.
You have no recourse. You will be
thrown out of church long before anyone Dave approves of. Worse than foolish if you allow this. No organization on earth would put up with
Dave Pack.
IMpostle Dave says
you won't get any say in policy or CHANGES in by laws. That means he can do whatever is
expedient. Being right and doing what is
expedient is not the same thing. What
Dave so badly tried to hide for years as he left his trail of tears from church
to church he now flaunts. Dave is in
your faces folks and I suggest you either not fall for this or get back in
his.
Anything that Dave does not want to face, understand or
have to accept to him is "unscriptural, time wasting ,
nonsense." How about these
scriptures on there being safety in a multitude of advice and counsel? Are
these, for you, unscriptural and time wasting nonsense? It seems that these SCRIPTURAL ADMONITIONS
for not making an ass out of yourself and fools out of others are the truth and
IMpostle Pack is dead wrong. Maybe I
can't read. Can you?
IMpostle Pack will allow no studies to show yourself
approved. No RIGHTLY dividing the word of truth, whatever that may be for
you. NO inquiry that goes against the
Almighty IMpostle Pack. Are you people
brain dead? Do you have any original
thoughts in your own heads that you will defend in the face of this theological
clown and tyrant?
A word to you 16 buffoons for Christ that "counsel
and advice." We know you don't. You
are kiss ass yes men. You want your job
and whatever perks IMpostle Pack has promised you. Find just ONE thing you disagree with him
over and bring it to his attention in front of the other 15. Let us know how that goes for you. Just remember, freely he has given and
history has show that freely he shall and can take it back. Ask Michael Venish how it feels to have the
fist shaking IMpostle Pack in your face when he thought to caution IMpostle
Pack on spending money on a campus sending a clear message that Dave's lord
does indeed delay his coming and to think twice about calling himself some kind
of Joshua the High Priest, which we know is exactly what he thinks to do. IMpostle Dave left he and his wife destitute
and a finer man I have never met in the COGs.
You won't have a chance.
IMpostle Pack is obviously both totally stuck in his past
and determined to reproduce it. Of
course, along with it will come ALL that came from it. There will be investigations into IMpostle
Pack and it will come from the endless stream of people he has offended and
alienated. As many go out the back door
as come in the front it seems. That will
never end for both minister and member.
If you think he is creating drama now, just wait. You have not seen anything yet.
IMpostle Pack is a mere Bible reader as are most COG
ministers. They weave and cobble
scriptures together that never belong together to make them mean what they
never were meant to mean. Haggai is just
one example of making the OT mean what it never meant.
Three times I have challenged the IMpostle to debate me
on all things Bible and prophecy and
three times no response. I did not
challenge him thinking he would. I
challenged him to show you he would not.
Big fish, small pond and all that.
IMpossible Pack is wrongly dividing the book of
Haggai. Before too long you will know
that in your soul unless you are totally blind, deaf and dumb. It is not about IMpostle Pack and he ain't no
Joshua. Or as any Rabbi or OT Scholar
might tell the IMpostle , "I know
Joshua...I got my doctorate in Joshua..and you ain't no Joshua."
What a ridiculous perspective this man has. He is not special. He is not found anywhere in the Bible. He does not have the only direct line to
Christ or the Almighty. He doesn't know
everything and in fact actually knows little about the real origins, intent,
history and politics of the whole Bible.
He is NOT well read and wants you not to be well read either. Booklets are not Books and abiding by the
views of just one man in this time of history is simply foolish.
So think about it.
Read his own words about what will never be permitted and then read the
scriptures about getting wise counsel and there being safety in that. Like you need to be told that???? Herbert W Armstrong did many foolish and
hurtful things because no one could tell him what to do or not do either. He wasted millions on himself and his opinion
of himself. HWA had to pay leaders to
see him. That's how the real world
works. NOT ONE of the leaders HWA
visited gave a rats ass about who he said or thought he was and what his
message was. And besides, HWA was too
afraid to actually preach any Gospel to the world. He put it in terms they understood, not so
they would understand it, but so he could at least get a picture of himself
with them. I understand Prince Charles
once told HWA he "needed to learn his place" and indeed he never did. IMpostle Pack won't either unless it is the
dominant one.
I will remind both minister and member alike one more
time what IMpostle Pack said about himself
and then just sit back the next few weeks months and watch the Spirit of
Ron Weinland manifest itself once again in Impostle David C. Pack.
Dave challenged you with these words. YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN THEM AS HE HOPED
"I want to make a statement about...me...now,(Boy, now there's a rare topic) if I became deceived, (And now you have ) I will never tell you what I'm going to tell you now...I am telling you if I go off into strange ideas, misconduct, rebellion, you name it, don't follow me. I want to tell you that now, because if I start doing that I'm gonna try to get you to follow me! I'm gonna come to you and tell you it doesn't apply, it doesn't mean me, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's OK to follow me because ABCD and XY and Z. Do you understand what I'm saying? Listen to me now, when I tell you don't follow me if I go off into weird ideas, or if I get off into other things that are total absolutely unscriptural conduct, because if I do I'm gonna paint it with a different face and try to get you to follow me. Do you understand what I'm saying brethren? Please remember that, because I promise you that if I become deceived, I'll forget it, and I'll want you to forget it...And I hope you'll remember it well enough to quote it right back to me...But I'll tell you what, I'm not going anywhere."
There a have it....the ball is in your court. He told you what to do even though now he has
told you all there will be no challenges to anything he says, does or
wants. He is now at that place where he
told you how he would behave and is now telling you he hopes you forget he told
you.
So what will it be????? :
"There will be no more......."
or
"In the multitude of counsel there is safety"
It's an old story and Dave didn't invent it, but he is
recreating it.
Revelation 2
“To the angel of the church in Ephesus write:
These are the words of him who holds the seven stars in
his right hand and walks among the seven golden lampstands. I know your deeds,your hard work and your
perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have
tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false.
In modern language:
Dave Pack: "I
am an Apostle. I am Joshua the High
Priest"
Church of God: " No you aren't."
Jesus of Revelation:
"Well done."
Dave Pack:
"Doh!"
Peace...