Imprisoned Church of God Felon Demotes All of His Elder's

Imprisoned Church of God felon Ron Weinland has sent out a missive to all of his ministers telling them they have all been demoted.  Weinland's personality cult has lost numerous members and elders since his imprisonment and because of his failed prophecies which have lead to a drop in income and continuing exodus of members.  His glut of ministers and elders is no longer needed. Many elders and ministers have already left and others are ticked that Weinland has placed his batty wife Laura and his money-laundering daughter Audra in a higher rank than all the other ministers of the cult.  In those lofty positions all the elders were instructed that Laura and Audra had to approve their sermons prior to preaching at the feast and at other times.

Like all the other filth that comes from Wienland's mouth, his god supposedly is speaking these things to  his cult.  His god sees a need to get rid of the chaff so money can be diverted to Audra and Laura - the Anointed Ones.  Money being spent on these ministers is now needed to take care of Laura and Audra's trips around the world preaching the message of Jesus and grace felon Big Daddy.

This letter is being sent to you to inform you that you are being moved from the role of an elder to that of an associate elder. This is rather new for the Church, since our history coming from Worldwide has been different. During those days, an ordination, or specific office in the ministry, was viewed as a life-long placement. However, in this time that is now before us, there is a different design and purpose in what God is working, and we are simply to learn from it and support it. God has specific reasons for these changes and the streamlining that is taking place in the ministry. Some of that will be mentioned here, but other matters will be learned as you go forward.

At this point, there are right at 40 ministers being directly affected by these changes and reorganization, with the likelihood of a few more that will follow. So we are sending most all of you this same letter concerning this specific change, although there are a lot of others who are now being fully removed/retired from the ministry.

Weinerdude choking his chicken

Weinland and his band of Merry Women are weeding out the chaff so that those few loyal men and women left can be placed in positions of leadership over the ENTIRE world when their thing they call Jesus Christ returns to whip the world into shape. Those advance in years are being relegated to the gutter because they will not be able to cope in Weinland's world to come.

As a whole, God is now preparing and training a group within the ministry who will become quite active as we go into the final stages of this end-time and they are primarily being readied for responsibilities once the Millennium is established. Many of you have issues with health and/or age that simply restrict you from carrying out certain duties. This may also restrict you from being able to serve in what is coming.

In other words, all of that pandering you did to the Weinland's in order to establish your position in the church and thte kingdom to come was worthless.

In a few cases, it is simply a matter that the need for your service as a minister does not or will not exist where you are located. This also means that the need for some roles within the ministry are not now needed for the same purpose that existed several years ago and for what God was teaching and molding within the Church. Many things have changed since this process of a widely expanded ministry began.

Some the people Weinland had in positions of leadership are being removed because they are bringing embarrassment to Audra and Laura for not being submissive.  This will be a time to now reflect on their grievous sins against the Anointed Ones.

Yet for a few of you, this is a matter of your need to more deeply examine yourself and the example you have been living that reflects upon the ministry. Ministers are indeed held to a higher standard of responsibility and example in what is reflected in our life to others around us. It is a matter of striving to be on greater guard in all that we do, say, and administer in our responsibilities toward the world around us, toward the Church, and also our personal families. Over the next year, this will be the time to make the necessary changes that have been put off or ignored for too long now.

No matter how hard or diligent a minister was in  Weinland's cult makes no difference now.  People like his son Jeremy can kick you to the gutter so they can hove the power and prestige.  You are all nothing more than worthless chattel for the Anointed Ones.

In other cases, the change in one’s role may simply be a matter for the need of stepping aside so that others can be inserted who need the experiences that can only be gleaned, learned, and molded into a person by serving for a period of time in the ministry. This is God’s work in us and it is by His design.

Some of the extra rebellions elders will be getting MORE than this letter from the Witless Witness.  A stern rebuke is coming from the Anointed Ones striking down the rebellious sinning men and women who will not bow in the presence of Audra, Laura and Weinerdude himself.

 Everyone being moved from the role of an elder to that of an associate elder will be receiving this “form letter”, although, some few of you are being given more than this letter. For those receiving more direct correction where it is needed, you know some of the primary matters that must be addressed and changed in your life. Others will need to genuinely examine yourself before God to see it there are things that you need to address and change. Although there are still some of you who have consistently been moving forward and growing spiritually and the change for your role in the ministry is simply a matter of some of the other reasons listed, and not primarily of a matter of correction.

Even though we are treating you all like shit at this time we want you to know WE LOVE YOU and APPRECIATE YOU!

Lastly, is a matter of great importance to Laura and myself. We have loved working in a more direct manner with you due to your being in the ministry. In a short time, we have been through much together. We are so thankful for all the support and service you have given to us and God’s Church. That does not change simply because you are no longer in the role of an elder, but that of an associate elder. You are in God’s ministry and yet have much before you concerning service you can render to the Church. So again, thank you!

We continue to move forward together as a family. As there is still so much that is before us as a Church, and for Laura and myself, we need and are requesting your continued prayers and support for us and the Body of Christ.

I Am The First Legitimate True Prophet In Centuries!

For several years now this web site and others have mocked and ridiculed the self-appointed prophet Bob Thiel.  Even Rod Meredith and the Living Church of God have taken called him out on his silliness.  In spite of this Theil still incessantly struggles on to try and impress people about his prophethood status. Thiel's huge issues is than 99.999999999999999% of the Caucasian race ignores his drivel.  The only people that are halfway interested in him are some minuscule groups in Africa.  Even many of those are groups of people looking for American churches for an easy handout.

Stinging for constantly being ignored when his message is supposed to be so vitally important in this end times Thiel is having to "prove" once again why he is a true prophet of his god.  In order to do this he has so denounce many other people claiming to be prophets.  Thiel also seems to be believe that he is the only one in the COG who is able to discern who is a prophet and who is not.  Three guess as to who is....

For quite a few years, I have denounced a variety of false and self-appointed prophets at the www.cogwriter.com website and have long had an article titled Why Be Concerned About False and Heretical Leaders? From time to time, I also get emails from people who believe that they are some type of prophet or one of the two witnesses or have some special prophetic message. Sadly, because of many false self-appointed prophets, many in the Church of God have dismissed that God actually could have someone in the office of prophet at this time.

In Thiel's latest blog post where he seeks to legitimize himself, he quotes from Herbert Armstrong and Leroy Neff as reliable sources in discerning prophets.  Leroy Neff???????  HWA??????  Neither of these men had any qualifications to do such a thing, but then Theil is also incapable of discernment.

Thiel writes trying to prove since he is a little insignificant man who has no theological training,  is NOT a great speaker and does not have a large church that these are signs he is one.  God chose him.

A true prophet would not need to be from a major theological institution, have the most magnanimous personality, be a great speaker, or have a large or impressive Church, but would be the type willing to meet in members’ homes. He also does not have to have had a ministerial background. God chooses who His prophets are. Notice something from the Old Testament:

14 Then Amos answered, and said to Amaziah: “I was no prophet, Nor was I a son of a prophet, But I was a sheepbreeder And a tender of sycamore fruit. 15 Then the Lord took me as I followed the flock, And the Lord said to me, ‘Go, prophesy to My people Israel.’ (Amos 7:14-15)

Then to give himself an easy out, he compares himself to Paul who had failed then prophecies:

It also should be noted that while the Apostle Paul considered himself to be a prophet, not all of his speculative predictions were accurate. He once claimed:

10 I perceive that this voyage will end with disaster and much loss, not only of the cargo and ship, but also our lives (Acts 27:10).

The only problem in quoting this is that Paul was just making a comment, as anyone else does when face with a large issues ahead.  A prophecy by definition involves direct revelation from a "divine" source." 

Such messages typically involve divine inspiration, interpretation, or revelation of conditioned events to come (cf. divine knowledge). 

Causal off-the-cuff comments are not prophecy.  Can Thiel truly be this naive?  Oh wait, he has no theological education, what more should I have expected?

Then taking the wounded martyr status he admits no one listens to him or ever will.

Truly, most people will not listen to a true prophet of God in this age. And, even when God grants power to His two witnesses, most in the world will not only not listen to them, they will be deceived enough to support an army that will fight against the returning Jesus Christ (Revelation 16:13-14; 19:11-19)!

Then to further legitimate himself, Thiel trots out Gaylyn Bonjour once again.

A true prophet is under God’s authority. A true New Testament prophet has had hands laid upon him/her and/or received special anointing. You can not anoint yourself or come up with doctrine that contradicts the Bible (cf. Revelation 22:18-19) like at least three self-declared supposed COG “prophets” (Gerald Flurry, William Dankenbring, and Ronald Weinland) and false predictors (like Harold Camping and David Pack) have falsely done)–”Scripture cannot be broken” (John 10:35).

Thus far, none who have ever contacted me and claimed to have been a prophet of some type have had hands laid upon them to give them the type of anointing that a true prophet of God would likely have had in this church age if God was selecting them. Hence, if the anointing from a true minister has not happened to you, understand that I do not now accept that you are a prophet or one of the two witnesses. Laying hands upon yourself is not enough.

 Then Thiel makes another mind numbing silly comment.  According to Thiel his receiving of the status of prophet was so unique that it probably had not occurred for precious mutiple centuries!

In my case, in November/December 2011, I prayed that if I truly had a prophetic role from God that He would have something happen during a planned mid-December 2011 trip to Charlotte, North Carolina to confirm it or deny it if that were His will. As it turned out, on 12/15/2011 hands were laid upon me in Charlotte by ordained minister Gaylyn Bonjour. He prayed that I would be granted a “double-portion” of God’s Holy Spirit. He told me that he had not ever done this before but he felt that it was reminiscent of the time that the prophetic and ecclesiastical leadership mantle passed from the Prophet Elijah to Elisha (2 Kings 2:9-13). This minister had been unaware that I had prayed that God would have me anointed or somehow identified for a prophetic role on that mid-December 2011 trip if that were His plan for me and I had never discussed my possible prophetic role with him prior to this anointing. This 12/15/11 anointing appears to be the first biblically-appropriate prophetic anointing in the Church of God in many decades, if not many multiple centuries. And the legitimacy of this anointing has been proven by subsequent events–though many do not seem to understand how God works at times. And yes, I will add that I believe that I do have the appropriate prophetic fruits that Jesus discussed (Matthew 7:15-20) and that those truly interested in the truth can see this if they truly wish to prayfully look into this.

For centuries no prophet has emerged like Bob Thiel. He's one of a kind!  He is so incredibly special that the the angels in heaven rejoiced at his raising up as prophet! Even God and Jesus Christ shouted glad hosannas!  The earth will be saved at the hands of Bob.

God's Greatest COG Prophet EVER Is Incensed Obama Did Not Say Thanks To God And Is "Disturbing" Because He Is Watching Football Today

What would the Church of God be without all of its stark raving mad false prophets?  The last 70 some years of Armstrongism would have been boring as hell if it had not been for these mentally deranged lunatics!

Today, God's most highly favored prophet in this dispensation is back online incensed that Americans are enjoying football on Thanksgiving Day.  Not only is the false prophet bitter about football but he has to find anything negative about the day - which is typical of Amstrongism in its ability to duck any enjoyment in life out of EVERYTHING!

Today is national holiday in the USA called Thanksgiving. And despite certain claims, its specific origins are not pagan. But, of course, no Christian needs to celebrate national holidays like it.  And the Bible does condemn gluttony."

"One thing that I have noticed on the day called Thanksgiving by those in the USA, is when I have been at many places than the home I lived in, American football has been playing on television.
For many, other than food and family, football is a major focus of the Thanksgiving holiday."

He then has to smack down President Obama for not saying thank-you to God today and for watching football.  Regardless of ones opinion about Obama, Thiel's silliness reaches a new depth of depravity:

Notice the following:

Nov 22, 2012

For the fourth straight year, the Thanksgiving resolution from President Barack Obama fails to actually thank God — which is the fundamental reason why Thanksgiving is observed…
But, to President Obama, Thanksgiving is about food and football, according to his official remarks as distributed by the White House.
“For us, like so many of you, this is a day full of family and friends; food and football. It’s a day to fight the overwhelming urge to take a nap – at least until after dinner,” Obama said. http://www.lifenews.com/2012/11/22/4th-straight-year-obama-thanksgiving-resolution-doesnt-thank-god/

Whether or not the US president will publicly and officially thank God later today remains an open question. But the fact that Barack Obama did not do that in many past thanksgiving addresses, but instead advocates football is disturbing. Now the fact is that I have never considered that Barack Obama was a real Christian, but what about real Christians today?

Then he gets into his usual tripe that Paul and John the Baptist would not like football:

While I have even heard some people thank God for football, it is not a sport that I believe that the God of love would condone.

The person that Jesus stated was greater than all others born of women (Matthew 11:11), John the Baptist taught:

14 Do violence to no man (Luke 3:14, KJV)

The Apostle Paul taught:

Love does no harm to a neighbor (Romans 13:9).

What do sports like American football and boxing do? Even if played according to all of its rules, American tackle football is evil because it actually physically harms many its participants

Is it any wonder Armstrongism is rapidly disintegrating when these asshats run off at the mouth?  All I can say is THANK-YOU!! T/e more dumb things you say the weirder Armstrongism looks to  he world.

COG Prophet Saves Thanksgiving From Islamic Turkeys

We can all now enjoy Thanksgiving once again.  Between James Malm snarling that it is a pagan holiday and other COG members snipping that Butterball turkeys have been prayed over by Muslims, whats a poor Armstrongite to do??????  Thanksgiving is the ONLY holiday in which COG members feel "normal" in the eyes of the world.  Take that away and there's nothing left to enjoy.

Prophet/Chief Overseer and future end-time witless witness Bob Thiel has now come out saying that it's OK to eat a turkey prayed over by a Muslim imam as long as it doesn't offend you or your hypercritical fellow church members.

A while back, a reader sent me a link to the following item from 2011 that was somewhat true then:

America’s favorite meal may be secretly dedicated to Allah…

Customer service representatives from Butterball, one of America’s most popular Turkey brands, confirmed to WND that the company’s whole turkeys are – without being labeled as such – slaughtered according to Islamic “halal” standards…Multiple phone representatives at Butterball confirmed the turkeys are slaughtered according to halal standards, and one named Tracy (she declined to give her last name) further confirmed the words of Islamic dedication are spoken over the birds. Has your Thanksgiving turkey been sacrificed to idols? 

But then there was a change in 2012:

Butterball’s Thanksgiving turkeys won’t be served with a side dish of Islamic dogma this year.
The company has announced that its turkeys are not slaughtered according to Islam’s halal dietary principles, which say that animals should be killed while conscious and amid the sound of Islamic prayers.
The theological turkey turnabout came after an online protest on the topic last year threatened to sour the public’s taste for Butterball-branded products. Butterball Disavows Islamic Turkeys

Perhaps I should add that the first article also states that Butterball was not the only company that has allowed Islamic prayers over turkeys (there also may be Islamic prayers over other slaughtered animals as well). It should be understood that Jewish rabbis also provide their approval/blessing on various ‘kosher’ foods and ‘halal’ is somewhat of an equivalent in the Islamic world.

The reason I said basically, as can be seen, is that if this somewhat would offend an acquaintance, then perhaps one should not eat such meat in a manner that would make him/her stumble. Otherwise, eating meat that in other ways is proper to eat is fine.

Worrying about whether an imam has prayed over your turkey is about as silly as worrying that a rabbi prayed over your turkey making it Kosher.  Neither of these have absolutely any relevance to anyone that is not Jewish or a Muslim. Followers of Armstrongism focus upon some of the silliest things and make them into major issues.  What these whinny people shoudl do, and this includes Thiel and Malm, is get off their over-indulged asses and feed the homeless and poor this Thanksgiving.  Perhaps being a "christian" this one day might soften their hardened bitter hearts.

Something You Will NEVER See A Church of God Doing....

A Chicago church recently sold some property and in a Christian gesture gave every member a check for $500.00 so that they could do good for someone else.  They actually put a tithe to good use unlike the Churches of God.

Can you ever imagine a Church of God doing something that is described in the story below? 

When the Worldwide Church of God sold the properties in Lake Tahoe, Vail, Pocono's, Dells, Ozarks, Big Sandy and Pasadena did they ever do something charitable like this?

Can you imagine Dave Pack or Gerald Flurry doing this? 

What about God's most perfect church UCG?  Would any of those men working for that bloated organization ever give back to the members that sacrificed for them?  Even Vic Kubik uses UCG members to fund his own "charitable" organization. 

Church members have always been ready cash machines but have gotten little in return for that investment.  All that most have received is constant church splits, money being manipulated from a former organization to another, over paid abusive ministers, and incessant demands for more money.

Church members each get $500 to do good for the world

Posted: Nov 23, 2014 10:38 AM PST

 

Laura Truax/LaSalle Street Church (Courtesy: ABC News)

  

CHICAGO (AP) -- On a very memorable Sunday, Pastor Laura Truax surprised her congregation with a bold announcement: She was about to hand out money to everyone.

LaSalle Street Church had received a tidy $1.6 million from a real estate deal, the pastor said, and $160,000 - a typical 10 percent tithe - would be divided among some 320 regular attendees. Each would get a $500 check to do something positive.

LaSalle, a non-denominational church, has long been involved in social causes, from feeding homeless families to buying an ambulance for a medical clinic in Niger.

Not surprisingly, many donations will reach far-flung places, including a school in the Himalayas and an irrigation project in Tanzania. Closer to home, some checks are helping needy friends.

Church members, Truax says, are doing just what she'd envisioned when she distributed the checks in September.

"I hoped that they would recognize the power they had to bless others and change somebody's life," she says. "... And that has largely happened."

Read the rest of the article here.

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