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Saturday, October 11, 2025

Is Aaron Dean Ready To Let God Put On Him The Clothing Of Righteousness?


 

More words of wisdom from Samuel Kitchen:

Now the Lord God has done some rebuking towards the Devil, who is standing by to accuse falsely of Mr. Dean of “usurping power”. That’s the point of the UCG STRUCTURE. It was formed as a reaction to Aaron Dean holding faithful and true. 
 
So look at Zechariah 3. Who removes the filthy clothing from Joshua? Those who are obedient to God, and doing the work of God. It is by us still holding fast as the Worldwide Church of God and keeping the Work of God ALIVE, the false works will flee with Satan the Devil. 
 
As Satan said through Simon Peter, in Matthew 16. I have been told “IT IS NOT SO”, but the Lord does rebuke Satan the Devil. 
 
And when the Devil flees, so do the filthy garments. What does that mean? It means the filthy garments that is dragging Aaron Dean into the Lake of Fire to burn up is going as well. 
 
And when he resumes his proper work, inside the true Church of God, this Worldwide Church of God, then clothing of righteousness will adorn him, and he can properly fulfill his ministry in the Lord. 
 
So what does the Tribulation do? It shuts down all these churches. It strips them of their PSUEDO POWER, which Satan allowed them to think they have. 
 
And with nothing, perhaps they will look to God and repent. 
 
Aaron Dean will stand up one day and give a faithful testimony. 
 
But for the rest of us now, we need to be doing our part! We need to be ready! We need to obey God and BELIEVE GOD and the gospel delivered unto us through Herbert W Armstrong. 
 
Since Trumpets, God is setting forth to restore the ministry to this Church. IT WILL BE DONE! And if we can be ready to support them as they are restored, then let us be ready as PILLARS OF THE TEMPLE!

Dave Pack: I Am Spent!

 


David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God said that he was "spent" and could not keep his endless prophecy series going for another year. During "The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 599)," on September 27, 2025, the Pastor General admitted he was physically exhausted and alluded to other health concerns. Even though he declared again that "the Series is over," Part 600 was delivered on October 7, 2025, after the Kingdom to Israel did NOT arrive on October 6 as he had taught. exrcg.org

Some Questions About Your Observance of the Feast of Tabernacles

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For Your Consideration: Some Questions About Your Observance of the Feast of Tabernacles



What does the Feast of Tabernacles mean to you?

Has your understanding of the festival changed since the first time you observed it? How?

Do you think that your observance of the festival is consistent with Torah's instructions to construct a temporary dwelling and live in it for seven days? Explain.

Do you think your observance of the festival satisfies the commandment to appear before the Lord three times each year at the place which He chooses? Explain.

If Jesus Christ really fulfilled God's Law, how does this festival point to him? If it doesn't point to him, please explain.

What new insights into the Kingdom of God has this year's observance of the FOT imparted to you?

What part do meals and the consumption of alcoholic beverages play in your observance of this festival?

What kind of entertainment activities do you engage in during your festival observance? How do they fit into the overall symbolism of the festival?

How much money have you contributed to the Church and or charities during the festival?

Were the sermons, music, and Bible studies good and relevant? If so, what did you learn from them?

Did you skip any sermons or Church sponsored activities during the festival? If so, why?

If you have a family, did your spouse and/or children enjoy the feast? Did they learn anything new? Would they celebrate the festival if you weren't around?

When will the symbolism of this festival find its fulfillment? If/When that happens, will the festival become a memorial of that/those event(s)?

Miller Jones/Lonnie C Hendrix 

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Why did Jesus not return on October 6? Dave Pack continues batting 0% in prophecy accuracy

 


Remember this from 2 months ago? Oh, wait, of course you do—because in the grand, never-ending circus of Dave Pack's "prophetic" blunders, every failed prediction is just a timeless classic, replayed like your favorite sitcom rerun, but with zero laughs and all the embarrassment.

Who could have ever imagined that Dave Pack was going to be wrong again? I mean, with his flawless, god-like streak of prophetic perfection that's dazzled the world for... oh, wait, zero times ever? Utterly earth-shattering, paradigm-shifting shockwaves here, folks—hold onto your Bibles!

How many of his super-duper, ultra-gullible followers will sit there all through the Feast, wallowing in yet another soul-crushing disappointment that their all-knowing, never-failing guru has "oopsie-daisied" another whopper of a lie straight to their faces? Yet, none of them will ever summon the tiniest shred of so-called "faith" to abandon Dave's magnificent mountain of steaming, gold-plated nonsense and finally escape the clown car. Bless their eternally devoted, blindly adoring little souls—may they never wake up from this dream!

Self-appointed Church of God "prophets" are all batting a mind-bogglingly impressive 0% right now in prophetic accuracy. But hey, who's keeping score in this league of legendary losers? Certainly not these spiritual superstars, who wouldn't know a hit if it smacked them with a divine lightning bolt!

How many more times—nay, how many infinite, universe-spanning eternities—does this demonic shepherd need to cry wolf before his flock realizes the wolf isn't coming... because it's been Dave in a wolf costume all along, laughing maniacally in the mirror?

He has been widely criticized—oh, the horror, the injustice!—as a false prophet based on those annoyingly nitpicky biblical criteria and his absolutely legendary track record of unfulfilled predictions that could fill a library of epic fails. According to Deuteronomy 18:22, a prophet who speaks in God's name but whose words do not come to pass is considered false. Who knew the Good Book was so unforgivingly basic? Poor Dave, victim of such unreasonable standards! 

Pack's predictions often claim to be tied to Hebrew calendar dates, biblical feasts, or current events, but they consistently fail and get revised. Some specific instances include:

2020-2021: Predicted Joe Biden would "never serve a day in office" (December 26, 2020), and claimed Christ would enter RCG's building undetected (March 31, 2020). 
 
2022: Multiple dates like Tammuz 1, Av 10 (August 7), Elul 1, Tishrei 1 (September 23, Feast of Trumpets), and Cheshvan 1. 
 
2023: Dates such as Tevet 21 (January 14), March 6, April 1, May 5, June 18, July 1, September 29 (Feast of Tabernacles), and December 22. He declared doubting 2023 as the year was "practically a faithless attack on God’s word" (September 9, 2023). 
 
2024: Predictions for April 8/9 (Abib 1), June 16 (Pentecost), July 7 (Tammuz 1), October 3 (Tishrei 1, Feast of Trumpets), and December 16 (Kislev 16). 
 
2025: Dates like January 29 (Shevat 1), March 29 (Abib 1), June 1 (Pentecost), July 1 (Tammuz 5), and September 23 (Tishrei 1, Feast of Trumpets). As recently as July 19, 2025, his ongoing pattern of setting Monday deadlines that fail. 
 
Oh, sure, Pack has occasionally played the humble card by denying he's a prophet at all—like that gem on June 7, 2025, where he proclaimed, "I’ve never claimed to be a prophet," as if we all forgot his endless stream of "divine" proclamations. Or that hilarious vow back on April 27, 2019, swearing he'd never set another date again... right before he kept right on doing it, because why stop the fun when the failures are piling up so spectacularly? And when those oh-so-reliable prophecies inevitably flop like a lead balloon, he trots out the most creative excuses imaginable: God apparently lets errors slide just to "test faith," or the whole mess was a clever "ruse by God" to bamboozle the doubters. How convenient—blame the Almighty for your own epic blunders!

Dave, ever the modest soul, positions himself as the undisputed king of prophetic wisdom, humbly claiming titles like "Apostle" or the biblical "Elijah" who's single-handedly restoring all truth before Christ bothers to show up. Because, you know, no one else in history could possibly measure up to his genius. His sermons are chock-full of these modest highlights:"

I’ve studied prophecy, I know this, like no man who’s ever lived" (November 28, 2015)—wow, move over, Moses; Dave's got this covered! 
 
"There’s no way we’ve got this wrong" (March 15, 2023)—famous last words from the guy who's been wrong more times than a broken clock. 
 
Claims of personal immortality: "So, I know I don’t die. A couple places say that" (April 27, 2024)—immortal, you say? Must be why his predictions keep dying instead.

 "God, quite literally, could not tell us or He would make Himself a liar" (January 9, 2016), or casually describing God as willing to "slaughter babies and behead them" (October 12, 2023)—because nothing says "loving deity" like turning the divine into a horror movie villain to prop up your failing shtick.

In the end, isn't it just heartwarmingly inspiring how David C. Pack keeps the prophetic dream alive—one spectacular face-plant at a time? With a track record that could make even Nostradamus blush in envy (for all the wrong reasons), and excuses so divinely creative they'd make God Himself chuckle, Dave stands as the ultimate beacon of unwavering "faith" in the face of endless, hilarious failure. Here's to the next 82 botched predictions; after all, who needs accuracy when you've got an immortal ego and a flock too devoted to notice the wolf in shepherd's clothing? Keep shining, you false prophetic superstar—you're batting zero, but hey, at least you're consistent!

Thursday, October 9, 2025

Crackpot Prophet: Where is Elijah in 2025?

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Oh, when it comes to the ever-so-glorious Churches of God movement, Elijahs are basically cheaper than boxes of expired matzo's after Passover. Every single decade of these churches' oh-so-holy existence is absolutely littered with self-appointed Elishas and Elijahs, all dramatically "sent by God" to warn the church and the world, because apparently, the Almighty just can't get enough of these clowns.

For decades, the old Worldwide Church of God headquarters in Pasadena was graced by these Elijahs showing up at the Hall of Administration, thumping their emasculated chests while proclaiming how utterly magnificent they were and that they had some earth-shattering message for either Herbert Armstrong or Joseph Tkach Sr. Then, once they were rightfully ignored like the pests they were, they'd heroically plant themselves-as martyrs for the truth- on the sidewalk out front with their genius-level idiotic picket signs, boldly declaring that the end was nigh—because nothing says "divine prophet" like loitering with a Sharpie-scrawled cardboard masterpiece.

When the Worldwide Church of God finally imploded in the late '90s, various self-appointed Elijahs swooped in to snatch up the mantle and launch their shiny new splinter cults, each one somehow managing to out-crazy the last in a race to the bottom of sanity. And oh, that brings us to our beloved resident crackpot. Never one to bother with an original thought (why innovate when you can imitate?), Crackpot Bob has piled on so many mantles that even the ancient prophets are probably scratching their heads in heaven, wondering who this walking identity crisis thinks he's representing anymore.

But this time around, though—bless his heart—Crackpot Bob couldn't even charm many Caucasians into joining his grand cause. His Feast sites in the Caucasian nations boast crowds so massive you could count every single attendee on both hands... and still have fingers left over for waving goodbye to his delusions.

Armstrongism is just overflowing with these self-appointed Elijahs because, wouldn't you know it, there are still plenty of wide-eyed fools out there convinced that Herbert's "work" was never quite finished, and now it's up to them—yes, them!—to heroically complete it. How noble.

I asked AI why Crackpot Bob thinks he's a prophet, and it came back with this:

He left LCG in December 2012 due to what he describes as doctrinal errors, integrity issues, and a lack of love for the truth among its leadership. Thiel positions himself as a prophet in the end times, claiming to fulfill biblical roles such as those described in Acts 2:17-18 (God pouring out His Spirit leading to prophecies) and as a watchman delivering warnings about end-time events. He asserts that he is not self-appointed but was divinely anointed and confirmed through events, dreams, and statements from former LCG leaders.

Crackpot Bob posted two Feast sermons by two of his deluded men where they praised him as Elijah and that if you believe the Bible, you have to believe that Crackpot Bob is Elijah.

John Kaht refers to the Bible and basically states, “You have to decide if you will believe the Bible–if so, will you do what it says?” Jesus did what was to happen according to the scriptures. Jesus really rose from the dead and is really still alive. Truth is truth. We Christians are to believe the truth and it does not matter what the rest of the world does not. Christians are to rightly divide the word of truth.

Where is Elijah in 2025?

Louis Rubin mentions various views on whether or not there is to be a future Elijah. He explains that many think it was the late Herbert W. Armstrong. He stated that it will not be the original Elijah who worked in the 9th century BCE. Louis Rubin listed various heretical views on the end time Elijah. He stated that Elisha received a double-portion of God’s spirit. He explained that Jesus’ words in Matthew 17:11 are a prophecy for an end time Elijah who would restore all things. He listed 18 truths that Herbert W. Armstrong restored. He asked if anything had been restored in the 21st century and then listed over 20 truths that have been restored in the Continuing Church of God. He speculated about a candidate to be the end time Elijah who is alive now.

It is not only those of us here that mock Crackpot Bob and his many mantles, Church of God Perspective has also roasted Crackpot Bob:

You really have to wonder when Bob Thiel will quit lying. 
 
COGWriter Bob Thiel likes to twist and take other people’s and organization’s out of context, so let’s be clear about what the COGWA article, “False Prophets“, actually says. 
 
First of all, and foremost, it defines what a prophet is, something Bob Thiel continually muddies up:

A prophet is thus someone who speaks for another, foresees the future or proclaims a message.
An important function of a true prophet is found in a statement from God to the ancient Israelites through Moses… 
 
This is a very important point! A prophet speaks for someone else. They deliver a message for someone else. IOW, God speaks to a prophet in dreams or visions (S. Nu 12:5-7) to give a message for an individual, group, nation or the entire world. 
 
This means that the prophet might dream a dream to deliver a message to someone else. Ordinarily, this is a warning message. 
 
It is also important to note that the dream isn’t about the prophet himself/herself. Dreams prove nothing without results. 
 
Bob Thiel has yet to deliver a real message to anyone, except supposedly about himself. Obviously, this is a narcissistic view of how God speaks to His people. Bob Thiel has yet to speak a message, declare it a message from God and then have it come to pass!

COG Perspective continues with this:

Here are the “Four Tests” COGWA wrote about with my rebuttal to COGWriter Bob Thiel’s self-aggrandizing article: 
 
1. Does the conduct of the prophet reflect godly character? 

Absolutely not! COGWriter Bob Thiel’s arrogance in rebelling against his former organization (after praising them so long in public, BTW) is reminiscent of Satan’s rebellion against God. His finger-pointing and judgmentalism towards others proves he is the quintessential Laodicean (the people judge — others, that is). 
 
2. Do the predictions of the prophet come true? 
 
What predictions? All Thiel does is rehash a mix of biblical prophecies intermingled with pagan prophecies to create an abomination of predictions. Yet, where is the “thus saith the Lord…”? To be a prophet, you have to prophesy, and he has yet to do so. 
 
3. Are the words of the prophet consistent with Scripture? 

No. His organization, as well as his parent group LCG, add all sorts of traditions of men to their beliefs, including but not exhaustively forms of government (idolatry of men), criticisms of observing the anniversary of one’s birth, laxity on the sanctity of marriage, church eras, and more. 
 
Worse, he includes many pagan and un-Christian prophecies as part of his message. A true prophet of God would not need to do this to the extent he engages in it. 
 
Essentially, his emphasis upon being a “Philadelphian remnant”, a self-contradiction that a school child can see, means he is preaching a different message, a different gospel, than the NT does. 
 
For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit [such as an attitude of judgmentalism], which ye have not received, or another gospel [such as the message of being “Philadelphian” rather than a message of what Christ will do when He returns], which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.2Co 11:4,12-15 
 
4. Do the people benefit spiritually from the prophet’s ministry? 
 
No. The only benefit is Bob Thiel’s enrichment and supposed elevation of status. The people he leads will be lead into the wilderness of false teaching and idolatry that characterizes so many that Satan has grabbed ahold of before they could see the truth (Cf. Lk 8:5, 11-12). 
 
Simply put, too many church organizations take on titles of prophet, apostle and even sillier terms jerked out of context from the Bible in order to entice you and I and anyone else who will listen to follow them rather than God.

The Continuing Church of God joins the ranks of the Philadelphia Church of God, Church of God — Preparing for the Kingdom of God and Restored Church of God as being part of the synagogue of Satan, claiming they are people of God when they are not (Rev 2:9; 3:9). COGWriter Bob Thiel Fails "Four Tests" of Being a True Prophet

Then the gloves come off:

Bob Thiel wants to pick on anyone and everyone in order to justify his own beliefs and vaunted ego. However, the fact is that he is a liar, he does not care for the truth, or accuracy for that matter, and he constantly compares himself to others.

12 We don’t dare class or compare ourselves with some of the people who advertise themselves. In measuring themselves against each other and comparing themselves with each other, they are simply stupid. 2Co 10:12 (CJB) 
 

Take his “doctor” title. Doctor of what? If I came to you and said I was a doctor and gave medical advice, wouldn’t you assume by my actions I was a doctor of medicine? Likewise, if I went around putting “Dr” on my books, and the books were on religion, would you not assume my doctorate was in theology? And, if those things turned out not to be true, wouldn’t you believe I was a fraud? And, rightly so! [Update: Thiel now claims to have a ThD; see “Doctor” Thiel Responds]

Buried deep within his website is the admission that “I have studied graduate level Early Church History from Fuller Theological Seminary and other schools in and out of the USA, and after a lot of writing, was granted a foreign Th.D. in early Christianity. A doctor of philosophy (Ph.D.) degree was earned from the Union Institute and University (1993) where I studied various biological sciences and research methodologies.”

Not that it matters, which makes it even more curious that he would use such a means to elevate himself. However, his pride in his research is obviously flawed, seeing as he cannot even be bothered to get the name of this website correct. In spite of his being drawn attention to it more than once in the past, he has no interest in telling the truth and does not care if he gets the name right.

Which makes you wonder why anyone would follow such a person who claims to hold the truth dear when they obviously do not. Thiel twists COG current events and the Bible in a similarly deceitful manner.

COG Perspective ends with this:

What is striking is how bold he is in his lies! He reminds me of the child with chocolate all over his face who denies to his mother that he was in the cookie jar. What are his followers, anyhow, if not stupid, then? If they are not, they should prove it and leave! Do not walk! Do not pass go! Run for the hills!  Bob Thiel Is Still a Liar and False Prophet

Feast Humor: The "Or Else" of the Wonderful World Tomorrow

 How To Increase Sincere Feast of Tabernacles Attendance in the Wonderful World Tomorrow

 


Zechariah 14:16-19

"Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles.

(Personal note: or else)

If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, they will have no rain.

"Told ya we should have signed up for the Feast!"
 

The Tabernacle Artwork | Bible Art

 

"If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The LORD will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles."

No food has entered northern Gaza since start of October, says UN | CNN

"This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles."

 

"Smile brethren!...."

War on Gaza: Hunger 'worse than bombings' for starving Palestinians | Middle East Eye

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A Bit of Whitewash

Will All COG Splinter Groups Shut Down In January of 2026 And Return To The One True Church?

Will he return to glue it all back together, or is that Aaron Dean's job?


Oh, January 16, 2026, is shaping up to be such a monumental date in the ever-so-glorious COG lore—at least if you buy into the ramblings of those oh-so-enlightened conspiratorial prophecy fanatics. Why, it'll be a whopping 40 years since Herbert Armstrong shuffled off this mortal coil. Or, if you're one of those tinfoil-hat-wearing conspiracy nuts, that's the day he was conveniently smothered by Tkach Sr. Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus—along with a whole sleigh full of nut jobs still lurking in the church!

The very day HWA kicked the bucket, it was like someone flung open the asylum doors and unleashed the lunatics in all their delusional glory. Crazy predictions flew faster than you can say "apocalypse now." The tribulation? Oh, it was right at hand! Doom and destruction weren't just knocking—they were practically kicking down the door, ready to erase two-thirds of humanity like yesterday's bad news. Those oh-so-mighty Church of God "prophets" thundered from their pulpits with their premium-grade asshattery, fully expecting their wide-eyed congregants to swallow every last bit of it hook, line, and sinker.

Then along comes Flurry, storming off in a drunken rage to start his shiny new group because Tkach Sr. dared to make some subtle doctrinal tweaks. But wait for it—the real fireworks exploded with that infamous Christmas Eve sermon, and boom! The crapola didn't just hit the fan; it exploded all over the place. Suddenly, the COG landscape was littered with scores of new splinter groups, each one pompously declaring themselves the one and only true church—because, you know, originality is overrated. And then, lo and behold (cue the dramatic music), those splinters started splintering, and their splinters splintered some more. 

Backstabbing? Check. Bitchiness? Double check. Outright rebellion? Oh, honey, that was the main event! The church has never even pretended to recover and is now spiraling down into total irrelevance faster than a lead balloon. Go ahead, ask anyone on the street who these various Churches of God are or who their so-called leaders might be—no one knows, not even the poor souls living in the same city as their "world headquarters." Impact? Zero. Recognition? Zilch. Sure, this month a few folks might notice them as they swarm various Feast sites, dumping hundreds of thousands of dollars into the local economy like it's going out of style. But give it a couple of months, and poof—no one could tell you which group of holy rollers even showed up.

Yet, here we are, expected to believe—as that visionary Samuel Kitchen so desperately wants us to—that all these COG groups will suddenly repent, crawl back to the "mother church," and unite for some final, end-time, glorious witness, all led by God's supposed apostle, Aaron Dean. Because nothing says "divine intervention" like a bunch of fractured egos magically gluing themselves back together.

Spoiler alert: It's not going to happen, and that's not just a fact—it's a hilariously obvious one.

After introducing us to a magical fan, Samuel writes:

I was getting ready for this morning’s services, and had my bible open beside me. 
 
A fan blew some pages and I began reading Psalms 106:26. 
 
Therefore He lifted up His hand against them, to OVERTHROW THEM IN THE WILDERNESS:
 
In January, we are seeing a closing of a FORTY YEAR PERIOD since Mr. Herbert W Armstrong died(1986). 
 
Notice the type of attitude being talked about. 
 
They envied Moses also in the camp, and Aaron the saint of the Lord”. (Verse 16) 
 
They wanted was God had given to His servant, for themselves. 
 
…they believed not his word:”(verse 24).
But murmured in their tents, and heartened not unto the voice of the Lord.(verse 25) 
 
But notice again in verse 26! 
 
Therefore He lifted up His hand against them, to OVERTHROW THEM IN THE WILDERNESS:
 
These people had organized themselves contrary to the servant of God, and formed themselves into a SCATTERING, where God was against them, and OVERTHREW THEM in the wilderness.
What will exactly happen from this Feast of Tabernacles and next year? 
 
In Revelation 3, the Church of God in this PHILADELPHIA ERA, keeps the Word of the Lord, and HOLDS FAST. 
 
This is similar to the TWO of the TWELVE SPIES(Joshua and Caleb), who gave a good report. THEY HELD FAST, and RETURNED TO THE ORGANIZATION PATTERN after forty years, to enter the promise land. The rest were OVERTHROWN, scattered over the wilderness. They were denied entry. 
 
The promise land pictures the Kingdom of God. Yes, God worked WITH THEM IN THE WILDERNESS FOR FORTY YEARS, and he camped OUTSIDE OF THEIR CAMP.
Exodus 33:7 
 
“And Moses took the tabernacle, and pitched it without the camp, afar off from the camp, and called it the Tabernacle of the congregation. And it came to pass, that every one which sought the Lord went out unto the tabernacle of the congregation, which was without the camp. 
 
The picture of the “letter to the church of the laodicians” in Revelation 3, becomes more clear! Jesus Christ is not WORKING AMONG THEM, but has not denied them access to Him, if they were to open their door and WALK TO HIM. They had to open their tent flaps, and choose to walk to HIM, because he was not with them. 
 
Now the letter to Laodicea, pictures Christ on the outside knocking, calling for repentance and belief of the gospel message which had already come through His servant and apostle prior.
He had to remind them, HE IS THE FAITHFUL WITNESS, (He, Jesus Christ), and HE IS THE AMEN. Amen means what was said previously is precisely what will happen! He meant what He said! 
 
Now, those in the wilderness did not have the Holy Spirit of God, and was not called on to repent. Today, we can repent, and we have the help of the Holy Spirit of God. But if we refuse to obey God, that Holy Spirit will withdraw from us until eventually we will be too far from God to want to repent. 
 
It’s like a lamp being drained of its oil. Eventually the fuel will die out, and no matter how much you try to keep that light going, you just can’t because of the lack of oil! 
 
Those of the Spiritual body of Jesus Christ, the true Church of God, This Worldwide Church of God as Mr. Armstrong said in the opening night message last night, have held fast, have battled to hold fast and to stay firm in what was given to us. 
 
We are called outcasts by these splinters, because they have departed from the Lord, but we are the Worldwide Church of God. Oh how much we are maligned and slandered!! 
 
It’s because those who have stepped away, see nothing but human organizations while in the OUTER COURT of the temple. 
 
They think a HUMAN ORGANIZATION leads them to Christ. 
 
In actuality the Church of God is led by Jesus Christ, through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and it is the CHURCH that leads any human organization attached to this church! 
 
And so the Worldwide Church of God persists on. It is the original formation of the spiritual body of Christ that Christ raised up through Herbert W Armstrong, that will ENTER the Kingdom of God! It will not be overthrown because of unbelief in the wilderness as these groups are going to be. 
 
Have a wonderful Holy Day brethren.





Walking Fraud Street: David C. Pack’s 10,000 Piece Puzzle of Nothing Beyond



Walking Fraud Street 
David C. Pack’s 10,000 Piece Puzzle of Nothing Beyond 

Around 1927, when a young-in-faith Herbert W. Armstrong discovered Matthew 24:14, he concluded that someone must fulfill that prophecy. Almost sixty years later, that same man was traveling the globe 300 days a year in a private jet, spreading a message of hope that would soon end all wars and strife, and the good news he brought was that there is a way to end poverty, disease, and starvation.

Until his death in January 1986, no one could accuse Herbert W. Armstrong of The Worldwide Church of God of not using “God’s money” to spread a Gospel of the Kingdom of God to a world some viewed as teetering on the edge of collapse.

In November of 2015, Pastor General David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God started his self-described authoritative defining of the Mystery of God and laid the foundation of the complete schematic of God’s plan for all mankind. Those of us attending RCG at that time could only ask ourselves two questions: Where is he going with this, and what will be the conclusion?

In the early days of “The Greatest Story Never Told!” David C. Pack framed his Series as a complicated 10,000-piece puzzle that only he could solve due to his unique background and special training. Apparently, his mother was a very talented puzzle solver, and young Dave quickly picked up the same skills. Becoming masterful at solving complex puzzles would make that person a cognitive genius. 

David C. Pack’s 10,000-piece puzzle presentation was supposed to have all the details of the gospel clearly defined. All the complicated pieces were to fit perfectly together, revealing the complete good news that had been hidden from mankind for ages. Once the world heard and understood this message, they would finally have the words of eternal life.

David C. Pack’s “Greatest Untold Story” was unlike any store-bought puzzle. Puzzles at the store have spectacular photos or artwork on the box, along with a piece count and size to give the potential buyer all the information they need to decide if they want to invest the effort into building that image. They know exactly what the conclusion will be. 

In The Restored Church of God, the Pastor General’s puzzle was a mystery confined behind many successive doors with an astonishing number of locks, all residing in vast darkness. The RCG members give complete allegiance of trust to their Pastor General and thus commit to paying in advance for an unseen, unsubstantiated, overhyped conclusion billed as beyond spectacular.

Through all the darkness, blindness, smoke, mirrors, and criticism over the past ten years, “The Greatest Story Never Told!” has been defended vigorously by David C. Pack as a message about the gospel of God comprising The “who”, the “what”, and “when” of God’s one, two, and three iterations of His Kingdoms. This is not a prophetic piece of work, though it contains many prophecies we have been told to believe.

If the now 10-year long series of “The Greatest Story Never Told!” has reached a conclusion and all the intricate mysteries of the final pieces of the gospel puzzle have been revealed, it is essential to understand how David C. Pack arrived at that conclusion, just as it is equally important for as many people as possible to hear that conclusion if it is true.

In 2009, David C. Pack invented the concept of “open doctrine.” “Open doctrine” is the first step to redefining “present truth.” After a present truth is established, it becomes “official church doctrine,” which demands strict adherence. For RCG members, this is a dead end with no escape. All three steps are melded together and are enacted in real-time all the time. There is no avenue for RCG members to get beyond this. 

Most biblical students would strongly question the gospel being subject to exegesis some two thousand years after reaching maturity in the first century, especially if it is done by a man who believes he is the sole source of biblical interpretation. For David C. Pack, each page of the Bible was waiting for him to excise its words and then piece back together a conclusion that is mind-blowing in its revelation.

David C. Pack has often vehemently framed this revelatory process as originating from the Holy Spirit. Despite the claims of divine origin, it has not been spiritually rosy in the RCG despite the spectacular gardens.

David C. Pack started his Series with approximately 2,500 members and is finishing it with about half that. Which means in his mind, half the virgins were foolish and impatient and went to taste all the world’s delights and have no oil in their lamps anymore. The remaining 1,250 members have slumbered and slept for the past 10 years in their most important guard: “Don’t believe me, believe your Bible.” The complexities of the conclusions that David C. Pack has taught have been a grievous burden upon the RCG membership. But they do know how to follow the feigned words of their slightly held idol, and they have paid handsomely for the privilege to not only know the “who” but the “what” some of the time. And to know the “when” all the time —cough cough—none of the time.

For the weary, longstanding RCG member, “The Greatest Untold Story!” has a conclusion that contains a reward for them. That reward is to stand before eight billion people as a god figure for seven years...maybe? To obtain that reward, the RCG member must check all the boxes in David C. Pack’s works of salvation.

One of those works is paying “Common.” If tithes and offerings are the basis for funding church operations and congregations, then “Common” is David C. Pack’s magnificently conceived, yet unbiblical method for extracting enormous amounts of money for mostly one specific purpose. If you ever wonder what the draw is to line up and cash out, check out just part of this highly polished RCG sales pitch contained in their article titled: COMMON—Paying One Portion of Christ’s Price.

Many millions of people (including wealthy philanthropists) collectively give vast billions of dollars to charitable organizations in an attempt to fix this world. Governments and international organizations invest additional billions to eradicate hunger, poverty, disease, and war. Yet all their efforts ultimately fail. No amount of human ingenuity can solve mankind’s problems.

You can participate in giving the most wonderful gift this world could possibly receive. By supporting the Work of preaching the gospel of the Kingdom of God and all other Bible truths in all nations (Matthew 28:19-20), you are helping to bring a message of hope to a world groping about in spiritual darkness (Isaiah 59:9-10)—the sure hope of a better world soon to come, to be established under the reign of Jesus Christ.

What greater calling could there be?

The Work has distributed scores of millions of pieces of literature during the past several years, and many millions of people have visited the Church’s websites. But consider: Earth’s population is beyond 7.6 billion human beings. Think of those who live in your city, town, village, or even your neighborhood—have they heard the true gospel? What about your family, friends, neighbors, co-workers, and acquaintances—have they listened to this greatest of news? Realize there is tremendous work to be done. Truly, we (following Jesus’ example) must be about our Father’s business!

Many live unhappy, unfulfilled lives. Some seek answers to their problems and life’s greatest questions. Knowing we can participate in bringing them precious knowledge should excite us to no end, motivating us to do everything we can.

As David C. Pack explained to the Church, Christ’s price involves three elements that Jesus plainly laid out. These are listed in Luke 14 in the context of “counting the cost” of Christianity:

(1) Loving Christ more than anyone, including our own lives: “If any man come to Me, and hate [Greek: love less by comparison] not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple” (vs. 26).

(2) Bearing the burdens/crosses that we face in life: “Whosoever does not bear his cross, and come after Me, cannot be My disciple” (vs. 27).

(3) Giving our assets to support preaching the gospel. “So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsakes not all that he has, he cannot be My disciple” (vs. 33).

You would think that after reading that, you would conclude that the RCG is perfectly in line with what its predecessor did. In the Worldwide Church of God, Herbert W. Armstrong repeatedly reminded the lay membership that the ONLY REASON they were called was to support the work and commission of preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom of God as a witness unto the world. The difference between the WCG and RCG is that David C. Pack moved past just tithes and offerings supporting the work of God.

“Common” is how a little church does “big things,” according to David C. Pack. Christ has a price, and that is selling all that you have and then giving it to David C. Pack, who then gives “the most wonderful gift this world could possibly receive.” That is the splendid picture we are expected to believe. No one could possibly accuse the RCG of not using “God’s Money” to spread a gospel message of hope throughout the world, right?

David C. Pack has allegedly concluded the 10-year-old series, stating that he absolutely knows God’s plan and the unfolding timeline of the Mystery of God. He has repeatedly claimed God has shown him from the scriptures the date everyone is waiting for. As of October 2025, there have been 135 dates.

David C. Pack has said that Jesus Christ has sworn by God and all things made in heaven and earth that there is time no longer after he finishes making the Mystery of God clear. This is absolute earth-shattering news for a world ready to be harvested and saved from unprecedented evils. Is the Restored Church of God now prepared to take its extraordinary, precious message and wonderful gift unto the world?

Even after escaping corporate debt by selling off residential properties to his members, it has become painfully evident that there is only one truthful answer: NO!

With Restored Church of God mouthpiece extraordinaire Edward L. Winkfield completely contradicting his boss David C. Pack and God himself with his statements to a reporter late this Spring which has all the makings of “legal” postering, Mr. Winkfield emphatically declared that “this (extraordinary date) is (unequivocally) not something the Restored Church of God teaches or that Mr. Pack is claiming.” He continued, “The Restored Church of God is a group which remains hopeful... more than anything definitive, maybe you could go as far as speculating different things, but I wouldn’t take it as anything beyond that.”

Figuratively taking “it” as anything beyond that is precisely what David C. Pack came to conclude. Although the conclusion of David C. Pack’s 10-year, 10,000-piece puzzle constituted a convergence of a “date that cannot tarry” and a “man that would know and reveal that date,” the Pastor General could see no way forward to carry that message anywhere beyond the closed doors of the Restored Church of God. David C. Pack’s prophetic vision of a “thief,” “time no longer,” and a future “marvelous work and wonder” is a three-wheel brake to a prophetic mouth that has not stopped for a decade. David C. Pack’s antipathy to carrying the gospel message beyond anything or anywhere was summed up recently in this statement to the church: it “would fight prophecy” to go against God’s will to try and spread a message of ultimate truth and to grow the Church of the Living Christ. This is the same man who has concluded that setting over 135 false prophetic dates IN GOD’S NAME is not going against God’s will or fighting prophecy.

With Dave Pack singing the Guess Who’s hit song “No Time” as his new excuse, the “who,” the “what,” and “when,” of the gospel sit only as a trophy on a mantle constituting 10 years of answering nothing except for the fact that it is beyond our imagination that one man could so grossly foul up the divinity of Jesus Christ, His true gospel message and the “day and hour” that no man knows.

Comparing the work of David C. Pack to the work of Jesus Christ is a mind-bending exercise. The work of Jesus Christ in the first century AD was an unstoppable juggernaut. Revealing the Father, showing the Kingdom of God, and ushering in salvation had everything and anything any person would ever need or want to see, and all of it was done in the public eye. Filtering David C. Pack through Jesus Christ never paints a pretty picture.

ExRCG.org does this non declaratively and proves that David C. Pack is a blaspheming anti-Christ, false prophet, and false apostle. The contrast is clear: David C. Pack being against Jesus Christ is not an opinion. It has become fact.

If the conclusion of “The Greatest Untold Story!” is the most precious thing the world would ever see or hear and has at its core the complete plan of God—the gospel message of the Kingdom of God, why does David C. Pack want to hide it from the world? Is this not the treasure and “talent” of God that David C. Pack wants to go and dig in the earth and bury in a field (Matthew 25:14-18)? Speaking of treasure, or that other treasure—God’s Money, why is it that recently, on the very precipice of a predicted arrival of the Kingdom of God, did David C. Pack reveal that his longstanding prayer was for the church to be out of debt? No mention of a longstanding prayer for an open door to the world for God’s treasure to be revealed? No simple, longstanding prayer of thy Kingdom come, thy will be done? Instead, he has been bragging about asset conversion and “booming” financial wealth, both of which were initiated and executed in the “last days” in a dark back room and involved putting widows into debt would certainly conflict with John 5:29: “I am the light of the world, whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” Burying the gospel (the light of life) from the public and doing scurrilous real estate deals in the face and advent of Jesus Christ is walking in darkness.

The Church has always taught that the start of Christ’s ministry was when He spoke these words: “The time is fulfilled, and the Kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye and believe the Gospel.” According to David C. Pack, the Opening Night of the Feast of Tabernacles on October 6, 2025, will end the almost two thousand years’ wait for the Kingdom of God to arrive. The Kingdom may be at hand, but hardly a soul has repented because they can’t believe what they haven’t heard—at least from the Restored Church of God.

Jesus Christ said in Matthew 9:37-38: “The harvest is plentiful—pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest that He will send forth laborers into His harvest.” David C. Pack wants you to save your prayers for a future time; his immediate prayer is for a “harvest” of debt relief and financial growth.

Jesus observed in Luke 16:16 that from John the Baptist until the present time, the Kingdom of God is preached, and every man presses into it. David C. Pack has chosen not to preach the truth of the Kingdom of God, leaving the world ever more pressing into the Devil’s world.

In John 17:2-3, it says: “And this is eternal life, that they may know the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.” David C. Pack has defined and re-defined God and Jesus Christ during the whole ten-year series of messages of The Greatest Untold Story. The world will never hear the true God and Jesus Christ from Dave Pack, because that truth is lost and buried in the thinking of David C. Pack’s mind.

“As thou hast sent me unto the world, even so have I sent them unto the world (John 17:18). I spoke openly to the world (John 18:20) .... for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth.” What a beautiful concluding message from Jesus Christ concerning His public ministry and those He trained. David C. Pack came into the world to piece together the most confounding puzzle known to mankind and then kept within his organization the revelation of it, biding his time in a gated community of yes men who eat and drink at a table of lies. Is that the “truth” the world needs to hear?

The Restored Church of God is a real estate organization doing business in God’s name. It is led by a faithless man using false pretenses and coercion to alter people’s lives. It operates as a temple money changer—exchanging “all” for practically nothing in return. “God’s Money” has been squandered down a giant 10-year-long rat hole. The treasure of God’s true Gospel message is purposely hidden in the depths of Hades, just as David C. Pack has hidden the savior of the world as a silent 5’6” olive-skinned Middle Eastern man in the back dark room of the Temple of God. David C. Pack’s message of strong financial standing is now front and center, while the name of God and Jesus Christ and their extraordinary Gospel message are purposely hidden from the world.

The poor RCG membership never could fully understand the complexity of David C. Pack’s message. They were always buried in papers, timelines, metrics, days, weeks, months, full moons, moeds, rushing, running, absolutes, impossibilities, inarguable suppositions, all while under pressure to pay for their very lives.

God’s will is not being done in the RCG, and Jesus Christ is aghast at the conduct of its leader. The real thief breaking up people’s houses has been exposed. The confounding non-action of one part of the conclusion of “The Greatest Non-Story Ever Told!” is just as concerning as what was revealed in most of the rest of the Series.

A Series that became a bait and switch sham show that always interchanged one error for another error to come to some new and improved assumed truth. A Series that included a scheme to manipulate and coerce the RCG membership into paying “God’s money” for a purpose that David C. Pack either doesn’t or poorly and passively executes. The only real conclusion of “The Greatest Untold Story!” is that David C. Pack stands alone above and apart from all of God, the RCG membership, and the world. David C. Pack enlightened and enlivened himself as the only person indispensable in the Bible and the mediator of 8 billion people’s path to salvation. He satisfied all the desires of his soul by in part shaking sown widows to resolve his longstanding prayer. He rode the real estate market up and cashed out to make himself strong financially. He successfully baited his membership into funding a lifestyle that he himself forbids them to have. He operates with no patience and is faithless in all his actions, while always demanding both from his membership. He embraces hypocrisy like it is a requirement to run and lead a church organization, yet his membership would never come close to such conduct.

In the end, David C. Pack’s 10-year 10,000-piece puzzle was nothing but a self-promotion exercise. The world received nothing. The RCG membership paid an excessive price to have all their expectations continually crushed. There are 10,000 proofs, 10,000 examples, and 10,000 reasons why David C. Pack failed to discern and deliver the most critical piece of the puzzle. Unfortunately, there are far too many men and women lost in the confines of the other 9999 pieces of the puzzle to even know or care.

The now conclusion of the decade-long “The Greatest Untold Story!” gave us the final picture and evidence that each of David C. Pack’s three revealed mysteries of the gospel and the implied fulfillments of each, present a vast gulf between what was stated and what was realized. The potential for David C. Pack’s 10,000-piece puzzle to be one big giant fraud is real. David C. Pack concluded that the “who” at the very end almost entirely revolved around himself. The “what” was a multi-million-dollar financial exchange for a promissory action that, at the end, was deemed undeliverable! The “when” has been framed as unassailable 135 times, but technically and legally, it was always just “hopeful speculation.” If it looks like fraud and it sounds like fraud and it walks like fraud—it is fraud!

Scott Steel/former RCG member