Here we go again! Crackpot Bob (and his ever-faithful sidekick Steve Dupuie) has graced the internet with yet another episode of BibleNewsProphecy titled “Prophetic Scoffers and Earthquakes.” In it, they clutch their pearls over some recent seismic activity and a European heatwave, declare it all “the beginning of sorrows,” and then spend the rest of the video smugly explaining why anyone who rolls their eyes at this routine disaster-mongering is a Bible-denying scoffer straight out of 2 Peter 3.
The target of their righteous indignation? This blog (Banned by HWA), me, and every commenter who has ever dared to point out that Thiel’s “prophetic” pattern has been the same recycled panic for over a decade: tragedy happens → Thiel slaps a verse on it → anyone who says “this is geology and meteorology, not divine theater” is labeled an apostate deceiver who just wants “smooth things.”
According to the video and its companion article, we had:
Banned had the audacity to note what the USGS has been saying for years: the number of detected earthquakes has risen because we have thousands more seismometers than we did in 1900. The actual rate of major earthquakes (magnitude 7+) has remained remarkably stable for over a century—roughly 15–20 per year on average. Some years more, some years less. Normal fluctuation.
Thiel and Dupuie call this “scoffing.”
Normal people call it “reading the data instead of cherry-picking verses.”
Europe had a nasty heatwave. Temperatures hit 44.3 °C in France. People died. Thiel says this is God using weather to encourage repentance (citing Amos).
The blog pointed out the obvious: heat records get broken every few years now, and particularly this year with El Niño in effect. And, the fact that most European governments try to prohibit air conditioners. That’s not prophecy; that’s basic climate science and governmental stupidity. Thiel’s response in the video? Essentially, “Well, if it’s happening more, why wouldn’t it be prophetic?”
Because literally everything can be prophetic if your interpretive method is “bad thing happened = end times confirmed.” Drought? Prophecy. Flood? Prophecy. Slightly warmer Tuesday? Also prophecy. The only thing that would falsify it is if nothing bad ever happened again, and even then Thiel would probably say the lack of disasters is a sure sign that God has exhausted all avenues of trials; thus it MUST be a sign of the end.
Thiel quotes 2 Peter 3 about scoffers in the last days who say “all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” Then he applies it to people who notice that earthquakes and heatwaves have, in fact, continued as they were from the beginning of creation.
It’s almost impressive how neatly this backfires. The actual context of 2 Peter 3 is people denying the return of Christ and the coming judgment. It is not about people correctly identifying that the planet still has tectonic plates and seasons.
Meanwhile, Isaiah 30:10 (“speak unto us smooth things”) gets trotted out against anyone who refuses to treat every natural disaster as a personal message from God delivered from Grover Beach, California.
The irony is thick enough to spread on toast: the man who has been announcing the imminent end of the world (with varying degrees of specificity) for well over a decade is now calling other people scoffers for not panicking on his schedule.
Yes, the blog has called him Crackpot Bob. Repeatedly. Because when you’ve spent years predicting specific timelines that quietly get memory-holed, when you declare yourself a prophet after getting the boot from another splinter group, and when your entire media operation consists of turning every headline into “see, I was right again,” the nickname writes itself. What else could we call you?
The video treats this nickname like a badge of honor. “Look how the wicked mock the righteous!” No, Bob. We're mocking the guy who treats every aftershock like a personal endorsement from Jesus.
Natural disasters are tragic. People suffer. That has been true for all of human history. Modern technology lets us detect more of them and report them faster, which makes it feel like they’re increasing. Some years are worse than others because plate tectonics and weather patterns are not on a fixed prophetic calendar.
Crackpot has turned this basic reality into a cottage industry of fear. Every time the ground shakes, or the thermometer rises, he runs to the microphone to remind us that he saw it coming (vaguely, in a book from 2009 or 2012 or whenever). Anyone who fails to genuflect and say “Truly thou art a prophet” is labeled a scoffer, an anti-Christian, and someone who just wants to hear smooth things.
Meanwhile, the actual commenters on Banned by HWA and similar sites are doing the one thing Thiel seems incapable of: applying basic skepticism and historical context instead of treating the Bible like a Rorschach test for current events.
If every earthquake and heatwave since 33 AD had been a direct fulfillment of Mark 13:8 in the way Thiel means it, the “beginning of sorrows” would have started roughly two thousand years ago and never stopped. At some point, “various places” just means “Earth.”
The video isn’t really about earthquakes or prophecy. It’s about ego management. Thiel got called out (again) for turning human suffering into content, and rather than say “Yeah, maybe I overreached,” he made an entire episode explaining why the people pointing it out are the real problem because the Bible warned about them.
That’s not prophecy.
That’s just standard cult-leader damage control, dressed up in King James English and uploaded to YouTube (Satan's airwaves when it does something Bob doesn't like).
We will keep calling it like we see it, Commentors will keep responding to his lies. The ground will keep shaking, the summers will keep getting warmer in some places, and Bob Thiel will keep insisting it’s all about him. Some things really do continue as they were from the beginning.
Video starts where Butthurt Bob starts whining about Banned.
The target of their righteous indignation? This blog (Banned by HWA), me, and every commenter who has ever dared to point out that Thiel’s “prophetic” pattern has been the same recycled panic for over a decade: tragedy happens → Thiel slaps a verse on it → anyone who says “this is geology and meteorology, not divine theater” is labeled an apostate deceiver who just wants “smooth things.”
According to the video and its companion article, we had:
- A 7.5/7.2 earthquake doublet in Venezuela (tragic, deadly, and yes, the strongest there in 125 years).
- A 7.2 quake off Japan.
- A 5.6 in California.
- Record heat in parts of Europe.
Banned had the audacity to note what the USGS has been saying for years: the number of detected earthquakes has risen because we have thousands more seismometers than we did in 1900. The actual rate of major earthquakes (magnitude 7+) has remained remarkably stable for over a century—roughly 15–20 per year on average. Some years more, some years less. Normal fluctuation.
Thiel and Dupuie call this “scoffing.”
Normal people call it “reading the data instead of cherry-picking verses.”
Europe had a nasty heatwave. Temperatures hit 44.3 °C in France. People died. Thiel says this is God using weather to encourage repentance (citing Amos).
The blog pointed out the obvious: heat records get broken every few years now, and particularly this year with El Niño in effect. And, the fact that most European governments try to prohibit air conditioners. That’s not prophecy; that’s basic climate science and governmental stupidity. Thiel’s response in the video? Essentially, “Well, if it’s happening more, why wouldn’t it be prophetic?”
Because literally everything can be prophetic if your interpretive method is “bad thing happened = end times confirmed.” Drought? Prophecy. Flood? Prophecy. Slightly warmer Tuesday? Also prophecy. The only thing that would falsify it is if nothing bad ever happened again, and even then Thiel would probably say the lack of disasters is a sure sign that God has exhausted all avenues of trials; thus it MUST be a sign of the end.
Thiel quotes 2 Peter 3 about scoffers in the last days who say “all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” Then he applies it to people who notice that earthquakes and heatwaves have, in fact, continued as they were from the beginning of creation.
It’s almost impressive how neatly this backfires. The actual context of 2 Peter 3 is people denying the return of Christ and the coming judgment. It is not about people correctly identifying that the planet still has tectonic plates and seasons.
Meanwhile, Isaiah 30:10 (“speak unto us smooth things”) gets trotted out against anyone who refuses to treat every natural disaster as a personal message from God delivered from Grover Beach, California.
The irony is thick enough to spread on toast: the man who has been announcing the imminent end of the world (with varying degrees of specificity) for well over a decade is now calling other people scoffers for not panicking on his schedule.
Yes, the blog has called him Crackpot Bob. Repeatedly. Because when you’ve spent years predicting specific timelines that quietly get memory-holed, when you declare yourself a prophet after getting the boot from another splinter group, and when your entire media operation consists of turning every headline into “see, I was right again,” the nickname writes itself. What else could we call you?
The video treats this nickname like a badge of honor. “Look how the wicked mock the righteous!” No, Bob. We're mocking the guy who treats every aftershock like a personal endorsement from Jesus.
Natural disasters are tragic. People suffer. That has been true for all of human history. Modern technology lets us detect more of them and report them faster, which makes it feel like they’re increasing. Some years are worse than others because plate tectonics and weather patterns are not on a fixed prophetic calendar.
Crackpot has turned this basic reality into a cottage industry of fear. Every time the ground shakes, or the thermometer rises, he runs to the microphone to remind us that he saw it coming (vaguely, in a book from 2009 or 2012 or whenever). Anyone who fails to genuflect and say “Truly thou art a prophet” is labeled a scoffer, an anti-Christian, and someone who just wants to hear smooth things.
Meanwhile, the actual commenters on Banned by HWA and similar sites are doing the one thing Thiel seems incapable of: applying basic skepticism and historical context instead of treating the Bible like a Rorschach test for current events.
If every earthquake and heatwave since 33 AD had been a direct fulfillment of Mark 13:8 in the way Thiel means it, the “beginning of sorrows” would have started roughly two thousand years ago and never stopped. At some point, “various places” just means “Earth.”
The video isn’t really about earthquakes or prophecy. It’s about ego management. Thiel got called out (again) for turning human suffering into content, and rather than say “Yeah, maybe I overreached,” he made an entire episode explaining why the people pointing it out are the real problem because the Bible warned about them.
That’s not prophecy.
That’s just standard cult-leader damage control, dressed up in King James English and uploaded to YouTube (Satan's airwaves when it does something Bob doesn't like).
We will keep calling it like we see it, Commentors will keep responding to his lies. The ground will keep shaking, the summers will keep getting warmer in some places, and Bob Thiel will keep insisting it’s all about him. Some things really do continue as they were from the beginning.
Video starts where Butthurt Bob starts whining about Banned.
Bob Squeal screaming butthurt, prophetic!
ReplyDeleteArmstrongism, ie HWA and his "mantle stealers" have two problems with prophecy: 1) Application, and 2) Relevancy.
ReplyDelete#1 concerns the national identities HWA assigned, as in white English-speakers being Manasseh and Ephraim, western European nations being other tribes of Israel. Oh, and the bratwurst set being Assyrian!
#2 concerns the time to which the Bible prophecies were actually referring. Armstrongites have been wrong about the timing for the past 50+ years. They tirelessly fan the flames they think they see in the daily news, but the ten alarm fire they forecast never seems to break out. Oh, but they surely hope the fanning will corner you into an ACOG, where they can control and exploit you!
Is it really a bad thing to mock those who are willfully wrong? To correct their statistics and question their credentials? Of course not! Isn't due diligence part of all of our personal responsibility? After all, it would be doubtful that someone claiming to be a Martian actually IS a Martian, would it not?
Batting average, Baby! Armstrongism doesn't have one!
Has Bob been able to explain why 99.999999% of those Christians who are following Jesus Christ's command to "Watch!" have come to the conclusion that a group endorsing witchcraft, adultery, and promotion of non-canonical "Scripture" is by definition not preaching Jesus Christ's message?
ReplyDeleteIt is God's prerogative to use a thin-skinned, effeminate, manic narcissist if He chooses. But He won't use one who tolerates vile sin in the ministry.
DeleteArmstrong realised from the very beginning of his break with the Church of God (Seventh Day) that prophecy was a powerful drawcard for gaining followers. Issue 1 set the pattern of falsehoods that he sustained for 50 plus years. He used it repeatedly, issuing new predictions whenever older ones failed. He invoked God’s authority to give his warnings weight and convinced many that he held a special appointment from God.
In reality, it was a continuous pattern of failed prophecies and revised timelines - a system that relied on fear, urgency, and the claim of exclusive insight. Sadly, the same methods were later repeated by those who learned directly from Armstrong’s approach.
People such as these ignore the gravity of misusing God's name Armstrong was /is a false teacher who merely had an appearance of being special because he promoted holy days and sabbath and alleged he was a keeper of the ten commandments.
But even these were part of the larger deception, because they do not undo the hypocrisy and doctrinal errors that characterised Armstrong’s teachings. One of his greatest mistakes was the prophetic “warning gospel” he promoted being a message centred on a future event (millennium) rather than on Christ’s completed saving work. The true gospel is the message of salvation brought to all through the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. No amount of special days observance or claims of special appointment can compensate for a false gospel or for repeated prophetic failures presented as divine revelation..
The gospel is indeed the message of salvation brought to all by the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ - let's rejoice in that.
Hey Bob, don't worry about the people here. They have no effect on anything. They are like the rest of the self righteous world pointing their fingers and feeling so good about themselves. God will remove the blinders one day and hopefully they will change their ways.
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DeleteNearly every Caucasian in Bob's church is either a man who thought his previous church wasn't giving him enough recognition, or is one of that man's family members. Whether they last in CCOG depends on how much latitude Bob gives them to exercise the qualities that failed to get them recognized in their previous church group. Bob's problem is that he needs to let his Caucasian men feel special, but not as special as Bob. You have to have had some strong convictions to leave your old church and join Bob, but if your convictions are too strong they will inevitable conflict with some of Bob's convictions, especially Bob's sense of unaccountability, and you won't last in CCOG. The reason Bob can claim bigger numbers in Africa is that the vast majority of African members don't have a relationship with Bob but instead go wherever their local African pastor takes them, and those African pastors are opportunists who know how to manipulate Bob, with Bob's consent.
ReplyDeleteHWA complained that the mainstream churches had abandoned Christ's message and instead taught a message about Christ. CCOG has made Christ's message subordinate to the central truth of CCOG, a message about Bob.
So, we've been having all of this heat and thunderstorms in Illinois because of my posts on Banned by HWA about Church history and false prophets?
ReplyDeleteBob's reasoning is self-serving and unfalsifiable. If a tornado rips the roof off of Bob's World Headquarters and causes massive flooding, it's Satan attacking His Royal Bobness. But if tornado rips the roof off one of Flurry's buildings, it's God delivering His judgment.
DeleteI'm surprised that some up and coming mantle grabber hasn't advanced the theory that God is punishing the USA because Sunday-keeping Christians have taken control of our political system and are attempting to make it appear as if America is rising again, as opposed to descending into the tribulation for forgetting the sabbath and holy days. Also, because for the first time in history, we have an American Pope, a deception making it appear that he can protect us from the Beast.
ReplyDeleteGee, I hope I didn't give anyone any ideas!
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Hey BB, an American Pope. I must admit I was hoping the Donald would get the job. Cracked up at the AI videos of him as pope. But an American Pope? That’s a shock for Armstrongism. Russian war against its neighbour turning to custard before us. That was not in the script. I remember Raymond McNair saying the USSR would remain strong. Hmmmm. And da wannabe prophets of Armstrongism never saw these things a coming. Couldn’t predict yesterday’s weather lol.
DeleteI'm holding out for an African American Pope! That'd blow out the ACOGs' gills!
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