tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post1684380188859277141..comments2024-03-29T07:07:46.875-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: The Latest Issue of The Journal (Issue190)NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-91698105033852119902017-01-13T02:08:54.322-08:002017-01-13T02:08:54.322-08:0011.13 PM
When I started attending services in the ...11.13 PM<br />When I started attending services in the late seventies, someone pointed out that according to a old spokesman club (do they still run these?) photo, only one third still attended church. So doing the maths, 500,000 sounds reasonable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-78876414798407920222017-01-12T11:58:43.665-08:002017-01-12T11:58:43.665-08:00I remember the mid-70s when HQ thought the whole e...I remember the mid-70s when HQ thought the whole east coast was in rebellion. My pastor at the time called a meeting of the leading men to his home to discuss the rupture. He asked if we thought that the local membership in NH and VT would send their tithes to him if the WCG collapsed. I don't recall any dissenting voices.<br /><br />I recall that evening one of us called Pasadena to speak with a student from our area. He told us that HQ thought the whole east coast was breaking away. We assured him that the group in Concord, NH was loyal. We were gullible stupid fools and True Believers.<br /><br />Jim<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-40352876577327926912017-01-11T23:46:51.980-08:002017-01-11T23:46:51.980-08:00Somehow, even as the corruption was unfolding, I j...Somehow, even as the corruption was unfolding, I justified sitting on the fence. My reasoning was that corruption doesn't invalidate doctrine, or prophecy. It just means that some people are imperfect. But, then I became aware that there were some very serious questions about key doctrines, doctrines which could be argued several ways, but that HWA/WCG always held to the most extreme interpretations which ended up producing bad fruits and creating an unneccessary burden for church members. The final straw was the great disappointment of 1975. At that point in time, there was nothing solid left to hold on to. It was time to recover, time to get on with life.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-43356226575790403432017-01-11T23:13:51.675-08:002017-01-11T23:13:51.675-08:00After the WCG started imploding the leadership in ...After the WCG started imploding the leadership in Pasadena revealed the over the decades the WCG had been in existence ] over 500,000 people had passed through its doors. Half a million people who never stayed part of the church. Half a million smart ones.NO2HWAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-40996361315855510472017-01-11T19:35:18.080-08:002017-01-11T19:35:18.080-08:00"Some say as many 10,000 left WCG because of ..."Some say as many 10,000 left WCG because of 1974 events"<br /><br />Right.<br /><br />The truth is that the Worldwide Church of God was quite the revolving door in the 1970s. Herbert Armstrong bragged that the 'Work' grew at a rate of 30% per year. At one point, the WCG had claimed that there were 140,000 people in it (maybe as many as 100,000 baptized 'members'). The thing is, people would come into the WCG, look around and promptly leave... BUT more people came in to insure the membership numbers stayed up.<br /><br />At least we think so.<br /><br />The other truth is that very much like Scientology, there was quite a lot of exaggeration and misdirection. There were 8 million Plain Truths circulated? Depends on your point of view. Maybe 1.5 million made it out there, but Herbert Armstrong was absolutely convinced that 5, 6, 7 or 8 people read each and every single one sent out. This was garbage, of course. It was clear to those of us who attended services at that time that elders in the church neither read the Plain Truth or the Good News. For every issue sent out, there were tens of thousands that were read by 0 people.<br /><br />The long article by Ken Wesby points out the very same thing that the 70 page letter of J. Orlin Grabbe points out: The leadership of the WCG was corrupt, chaotic and disorganized and the management was populated by wolves and the chickens who feared them, keeping their heads down so they didn't get torn to shreds. No one but no one was loyal to anyone but themselves and would betray others to protect their own interests. This was terrible leadership at its worst and quite in line with the 'leadership' of David Miscavige.<br /><br />Ambassador College and the Worldwide Church of God was a total embarrassment, not worthy of existence and leadership was fully responsible.<br /><br />And that's the glimpse we have from the latest The Journal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-57198539012697392052017-01-11T18:42:32.869-08:002017-01-11T18:42:32.869-08:00
Could be Connie, but I suspect it is just a case ...<br />Could be Connie, but I suspect it is just a case of her underpants being too darn tight.Barbaranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-92140429492504751822017-01-11T16:10:22.073-08:002017-01-11T16:10:22.073-08:00The LU ad asks "what do I have to lose?"...The LU ad asks "what do I have to lose?".<br />My money, that's what!!!eddbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-58832634679611817922017-01-11T11:29:28.916-08:002017-01-11T11:29:28.916-08:00Anybody willing to be money that Marie Casale is d...Anybody willing to be money that Marie Casale is divorced, and her ex-husband remarried someone else better looking or younger? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910856904624749641noreply@blogger.com