tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post1715380014950027566..comments2024-03-28T08:21:32.583-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: What Killers Of COG Members Will Be WearingNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-56352293455758948592018-02-03T22:26:43.303-08:002018-02-03T22:26:43.303-08:00Yes. We encounter many philosophies, theologies an...Yes. We encounter many philosophies, theologies and ideas in our lives. Or we are born into them unknowingly. <br /><br />We are to assess what works for us or not. We both share a decision that armstrongism was not what we would pursue.<br /><br />I also think we share a desire for concrete results accomplishments.<br /><br />Now when I'm talking about American particulars of the past it would be far fetched to claim that I am endorsing separate hispanic potlucks. Just as it would be farfetched to extrapolate that if one likes to distribute contraceptives among the parents of Miller, Savonarola or the Anabaptists of Munster one is actually saying I wish my parents had used them.<br /><br />It is just impossible to have the time machine. Although one could say I wish ot didnt happen, personally I'd rather search for "explanations" and honest assessments of things that actually happened and recognize them good or bad.<br /><br />So when someone deems all colonialism 150% bad. I would point to the current Indian railroads or administrative system or lingua franca for an honest asessment. I like to understand how southern farming worked until the civil war, even when it had always been an outdated model, regarding the distrubution of labor, to European farmers.<br /><br />What remains of fallen empires are the tokens and medals in museums that bear no meaning for us today but at the time took considerable risk or courage to acquire.<br /><br />(a bit like the token words you mention).<br /><br />Ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-29331455509017911462018-02-03T14:44:42.335-08:002018-02-03T14:44:42.335-08:00I just wish I had a time machine and a gross of st...I just wish I had a time machine and a gross of strong condoms coated in spermacidal jelly, to go back in time, starting in the late 1800’s, and to provide for several key people, nck. In fact, it might be better still to start in 1781 to prevent William Miller as well!<br /><br />Actually, those who suffered it and then saw the error and repented of it love and appreciate the term “Armstrongism”, because it reduces HWA and his collection of junk philosophies to what they actually are, a very man-made thing. It’s the people still on the inside who despise the label. Somehow, they’re hung up on misleading and inaccurate phrases, like “God’s Apostle”, “God’s Church”, and “The Truth”.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-38271757838981587352018-02-03T00:34:55.794-08:002018-02-03T00:34:55.794-08:00Armstrongism is derogatory term for those who suff...Armstrongism is derogatory term for those who suffered it. Lots of extra biblical are pet theories of american culture.Scandaninavian members might not recognize that glynn washington crap. Occasionsl black member perhaps received respectfully receiving salted fish for potluck. Might explain many members in Caribean and Africa for those harping on american race relations. 5000 philipine members might not understand the child beating since it is not part of their culture.<br /><br />Hwa enlightened in a time of jeeish dicrimination in us by stating they were genetically related. Controversial and revolutionary. Especially in light of trump admin moving embassy to jerusalem not because of jewish lobby but because of calls from the americam heartland.<br /><br />Wow bible belt made a huge transformation there <br /><br />Nck nckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-67477384702218844212018-02-02T18:33:45.257-08:002018-02-02T18:33:45.257-08:00See, the problem, nck, is that Armstrongism was to...See, the problem, nck, is that Armstrongism was totally FUBAR. So, the thinking behind it and historical context are irrelevant. It is a defective product, and universally produces bad fruits. Who even cares where it came from? <br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-67179731462842362252018-02-02T08:41:29.687-08:002018-02-02T08:41:29.687-08:00https://theundefeated.com/features/white-immigrant...https://theundefeated.com/features/white-immigrants-werent-always-considered-white-and-acceptable/<br /><br />I found this BB, since you mentioned all these peoples.<br />For the interested.<br /><br />nck<br />nckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-48661881310256697772018-02-02T08:21:26.793-08:002018-02-02T08:21:26.793-08:00By the way, I am not in any way endorsing the poli...By the way, I am not in any way endorsing the policies etc.<br />But it seems people are not aware of the cultural context that shaped "armstrongism" in a pivotal time of transition in the United States and on what wave it rode to prominence.<br /><br />Rather than solely attributing everything wrong to hwa, who in domestic affairs and relations was not revolutionary or rather conservative, but in international affairs was building toward a "new order" that coincided with Americas race to its Zenith.<br /><br />I like Dewey's blog for starters but there is so much more on the internet like the statistics of spanking ones spouse in the fifties etc etc etc. <br /><br />My personal opinion is that everything of the past can be called bad. But its hard to imagine life when a cold could mean death and mobile phone did not exist. People had a way of coping and sometimes it involved the hard labor of captured people. Wouldn't trade anything to live in the past.<br /><br />ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-67615293957327448522018-02-02T08:00:51.876-08:002018-02-02T08:00:51.876-08:00BB
I believe in the customs records of 1925. Jews...BB<br /><br />I believe in the customs records of 1925. Jews and Italians etc were stamped as non-whites. Or at least considered that way by the powers that be that ran the country.<br /><br />The elites of the steel cities, thr railroad men, the people along the Hudson. In short "the old guard". Jewish ladies were not invited to this exclusive swt. (no matter how much money thwy had) We had this discussion before and you are unfamiliar with official designations and policy dictated ro customs from 1890 - 1930. When the majority of immigrants and quota was frowned upon by the existing crowd. Henry Ford was not the only example who took it further than socio economic stratification.<br /><br />I believe the last country club to not allow jews changed policy just a decade ago.<br /><br />Catholicism was also a major point of contention because of possible loyalties to a foreign head of state. <br /><br />As with many things and again you are judging by todays enlightened standards. <br /><br />Altough its going a bit too fast for the trump constituency it seems.<br /><br />Nck<br />nckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-48127458886675784142018-02-01T21:47:33.349-08:002018-02-01T21:47:33.349-08:00Oh,I forgot to mention. Only us Caukkers, or perh...Oh,I forgot to mention. Only us Caukkers, or perhaps stylizing it a bit for street cred, Caukkaz are allowed to call ourselves that. Please observe proper racial etiquette here on Banned!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-44118412104019450612018-02-01T21:34:28.253-08:002018-02-01T21:34:28.253-08:00Oh, for crap sake, nck! The state in which I grew...Oh, for crap sake, nck! The state in which I grew up was predominantly white. White does not equal "Anglo Saxon". There is abundant and rich genetic or ethnic diversity amongst Caucasians. Of course we had Anglos and Celts. But there always seemed to be a large number of Germans, French, Italians, Polish, Slavs, Lithuanians, Russians, Hungarian, Norwegian, Swedes, Danes, in other words, every strain or breed from Western and Eastern Europe. If all of us Caukkers were Brits, we'd have those funny ears that stick out, grotesque noses, and when we got old, we would look like all the old British rock stars who have spent way too much time in the pub. Also, forget about British cuisine! Dayamn! Eel pie? Really???<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-46084576596340851392018-02-01T08:54:46.002-08:002018-02-01T08:54:46.002-08:00BB,
You are purposefully not wanting to get it.
...BB,<br /><br />You are purposefully not wanting to get it.<br /><br />Just look up 1970 footage of lets say the Nixon inaugaration or whatever footage of political rallies of the dominant parties.<br /><br />EVERYONE is white.<br /><br />It is about the powerstructure of the dominant elites upto the 1980's.<br />Within that dominant powerstructure and overwhelming "I am dreaming of a white christmas", <br />"Doris Day", culture EVERYONE was blond and white, Like the Posterboy on the AC booklets in front of the Egret fountain.<br /><br />Barbra Streisand is not just a singer and artist. To many it was the first time they could identify with someone "looking strange", non blonde and "samaritan" as you call it. (how ironic for a jewish girl)<br /><br />Even curly Jesus in the picture book look liked a Norwegian carpenter in the fifties.<br /><br />That is the point. <br />Not racial purity. <br />Although that was nearly the same thing.<br /><br />It is about Identity and Power. (Perhaps the reason the British Royal family changed their name.) Why do you call them German while the carried Saxon-(Gotha) Saxon whatever in their name too?<br /><br />But you are right to point it out though but it doesn't matter in regard to the Identity of the Power brokers.<br /><br />nck <br /><br /> nckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-46117273796990370552018-02-01T03:35:36.638-08:002018-02-01T03:35:36.638-08:00Put into ancient terms, the USA was not “pure in i...Put into ancient terms, the USA was not “pure in its generations” from its very beginings. It was “Samaritanized” from inception. The Brits can do as they please with their Celts, Picts, Normans, Anglo-Saxons, immigrants from the nations in their pre-World War II empire, and renamed German royal family.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-1096036608338754372018-02-01T03:11:56.152-08:002018-02-01T03:11:56.152-08:00Really, all that we have is what we have now. If ...Really, all that we have is what we have now. If the British and American melting pots were ever mostly pure Anglo Saxon, or Celt, or whatever the pure (they never were because Manasseh and Ephraim were half Egyptian) tribes, they are not now, and have not been for some time. The USA had huge Native American and African American populations from the very beginning of the European conquest. Pennsylvania was virtually founded as a haven of religious and ethnic tolerance by William Penn, unlike the Massachusetts Bay Colony. Regardless of centuries old British thinking, the USA was never purely or predominantly Anglo Saxon, although the original pilgrims who came over on the Mayflower were certainly influential to the extent that English was voted in as our official language.<br /><br />With the passage of time, and the continued stirring of the melting pot, British Israel becomes less and less possible, and more and more irrelevant.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-73246779734474368292018-02-01T01:03:45.205-08:002018-02-01T01:03:45.205-08:00Anonymous Ekklesia said...
Nck you have the Armstr...Anonymous Ekklesia said...<br />Nck you have the Armstrongism and the South issue much more accurately than does NEO or Dennis (sorry y'all).<br /><br /><br />Ekklesia.<br /><br />I like a little aplomb and polarizing in postings that I have only minutes for to compose.<br /><br />I contrasted "Southern culture" with its "genteel" inward focussed (landownership) culture with the expansionist industrial culture of the North. This inner cultural struggle or difference was taken to the international level by the Northern Industrialists seeking markets.<br /><br />Of course it far more complex. <br />Especially in the seventies when we have a "southern" president spearheading "moral diplomacy", therefore capacitating many evangelical speakers to set the agenda for american foreign policy in the seventies. (Carter and evangelical diplomacy, very interesting study in light of Hwa's many travels during that same time period).<br /><br />After that we have a "Californian" president. The gung ho, go west young man, the end is near and I could be an instrument to end it all along with the evil empire, doubling the arms race, with the threat to take it into space aswell.<br /><br />This period was the Zenith of WCG. Then of course the Communist Empire collapses, WCG is finished by Russians and all that remains of the American Empire is its sole leadership and dominance over the world through "the five eyes" and echelon as tools of the Anglo Saxon Empire.<br /><br />Then we get the late nineties and now we stand where we stand, with a last grasp of White anger about the state of things by the election of the current president. Trying to restore what cannot be restored since other nations have learned about mistakes and applied/copied the best of America. <br /><br />ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-46383197772986912942018-01-31T20:50:58.724-08:002018-01-31T20:50:58.724-08:003:07
Yes correct! And even older traces during th...3:07<br /><br />Yes correct! And even older traces during the reformation and before that.<br /><br />I was talking about the specific american incarnation of the ideology.<br /><br />In conjunction with the "go west young man", "shining city on the hill" and "manifest destiny" as translated in a foreign policy ideology for America.<br /><br />All formulated end 19th century, then wilsonian translation etc as the isolationists lost until perhaps this administration.<br /><br />Ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-24703715091557927612018-01-31T17:36:56.647-08:002018-01-31T17:36:56.647-08:00Hasn’t it ever occurred to Dr. Bob that of all the...Hasn’t it ever occurred to Dr. Bob that of all the Christians who have been martyred and tortured over the past 2,000 years, the churcofgoddians have been a statistically negligible percentage? And, that’s being generous and even spotting him the ones from the false history Armstrong, Dugger and Dodd cobbled together to give their movement any sort of credibility in the first place!<br /><br />If ultra-leftists ever set up camps and re-education centers, they’ll be rounding up the evangelicals from the local megachurches, the Christian patriots holed up in militia compounds, the Mormons from the LDS temples, and the Jehovah Witnesses from Kingdom Hall. The safest place for a Christian to be might be in one of the nearly imperceivable ACOGs. <br /><br />BB<br /><br />Byker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-79380984100267404112018-01-31T16:38:52.581-08:002018-01-31T16:38:52.581-08:00new nickname for Dr Bob....."curtains".....new nickname for Dr Bob....."curtains"...True Breadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04630174767307245168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-26711032630260379562018-01-31T15:24:57.793-08:002018-01-31T15:24:57.793-08:00There were numerous books in the Pasadena AC libra...There were numerous books in the Pasadena AC library on British Isrealism that were from England and published in the 1800's. The Yale excuse is fake news.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-50881632527551639842018-01-31T15:07:30.637-08:002018-01-31T15:07:30.637-08:00Nck
BI originated in Yale?? Google BI. As I have p...Nck<br />BI originated in Yale?? Google BI. As I have pointed out before, BI was the official doctrine of the Anglican church during the 1800s. Millions were exposed to this belief. This was before Herb was born.<br />Please, no re writing of history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-7707489881637717942018-01-31T14:21:21.422-08:002018-01-31T14:21:21.422-08:00RSK
What? Am I going to see you at "Who do y...RSK<br /><br />What? Am I going to see you at "Who do you think you are?" Are you a "Jefferson"? Gimme data to process! Please dont tell me you are related to the Kaananites or mighty hunters of old! <br /><br />Congratulations anyway, its an important thing!<br /><br />Ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-45849183585459363832018-01-31T12:34:11.131-08:002018-01-31T12:34:11.131-08:00Nck you have the Armstrongism and the South issue ...Nck you have the Armstrongism and the South issue much more accurately than does NEO or Dennis (sorry y'all).Ekklesianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-66586056744361120892018-01-31T10:44:55.181-08:002018-01-31T10:44:55.181-08:00Living in the damn south as I do, I can't say ...Living in the damn south as I do, I can't say NEO is completely wrong. <br /><br />Nck, I got the DNA. Speaking with the son of the hitherto unknown grandfather tonight.RSKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06427255805476848046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-70687760010018211202018-01-31T10:11:17.429-08:002018-01-31T10:11:17.429-08:00"This is not meant os criticism. COG people n...<br />"This is not meant os criticism. COG people need to wake up and realize we might have only a couple more years or we might have 500 hundred more years."<br /><br /><br />YES FLOYD<br />People involved in COG's should at least LIVE like Jesus could return tomorrow but PLAN like there might be some delay for reasons only known to the Universe.<br /><br />nck nckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-67751707621491625262018-01-31T10:09:21.474-08:002018-01-31T10:09:21.474-08:00Gotta turn off the word suggested...
"Lip&quo...Gotta turn off the word suggested...<br />"Lip" "say"Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17266112796114131485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-16407100549007110802018-01-31T10:00:37.331-08:002018-01-31T10:00:37.331-08:00"It has always surprised me that Armstrongism..."It has always surprised me that Armstrongism, with its distinct White Supremacy orientation, did not become more popular in the South."<br /><br /><br />First of all interesting take on the South and the Celtic Borderlands moved to the Apalachians. There are some nice movies about the feuds between the "McCabes" and the <br /> "Mckintyres" clans of the Apalachians.<br /><br /><br />Now about your surprise about Armstrongism.<br />That is because the people of this blog do not understand the politics of Armstrongism and BI.<br /><br />They believe it is racist which is only so through modern eyes and definitions.<br /><br />The politics of BI&US in prophecy is about the dominant culture of the NEW ENGLAND STATES with HARVARD AND ESPECIALLY YALE as their dominant institutes of learning. During the inception phase of the USA the personel for the State Department was largely drawn from Yale (of Skull and Bones fame). These secret societies recruited from the elite of the elite even before the USA decided to break its splendid isolation.<br /><br />Then we have Woodrow Wilson who won the battle between internationalists and isolationists.<br />The USA went on its course to become involved with the major world powers like the British and French empires through the league of nations.<br /><br />On and on and yadda yadda.<br /><br />Later WWII, United Nations. `1942 CIA for services abroad. etc etc etc.<br /><br />Then I come in and chart the route of the GIII and mentioning all of HWA appointments.<br />The man spent 360 days per year abroad during the seventies. As one particle in the webweavers of the American Empire meeting more heads of state than Henry Kissinger BEFORE THE AGE OF FAXES. Webweaving went through personal contacts and the Israeli prime minister rushed out of cabinet meetings to drive from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv to immediately speak to HWA when the GII arrived at Ben Gurion.<br /><br />At the end of his career he sat at the head table next to the Secretary General of the United Nations. (that powerful instrument of the American Empire through SOFT POWER during the cold war.)<br /><br /><br />Now does this answer your question about why WCG was not necissarily speaking to "the racist south" but more a proponent of the dominant Anglo Saxon culture (the I am dreaming of a White Christmas culture) extending abroad and with powerful megawatts changing the world out there through the sponsoring of leveraged programs that Americanized the rest of the world. (through popular culture (radio pirates that needed major sponsors like WTM to survive and feed the young generation with AMERICAN culture and pop music.<br /><br />Till the sponsoring of agricultural reform programs in South East Asia as powerbase for the American friendly dicators. Not only american friendly but even having american citizenship. (The Thai king, Jehan Sadat, The Jordanians, etc etc etc)<br /><br /><br />Now does this sound as the dominant culture of the South. No, in the south they are agricultarists, focussed on their land, their near vicinity. While the culture of the North knew the true potential of "America" if its power would extend abroad. <br /><br />Through the Yale schooled State Department. Yale where BI originated and was brought to Oregon which was an ALL WHITE STATE (NORTH WEST to the SOUTH (ring a bell north west was where the tribes would go) From Oregon the ideology spread to California where it ultimately split into benign Armstrongism and the horrible IDENTITY Movement.<br /><br />This is all recorded history. And those interested could start their search at Pam Dewey'site Meet myth America and follow the trail of BI from Oregon to California. What preachers were involved and how the Identity movement evolved and split to at worst avenge WACO by blowing up the Murray building. It is all very easy for those willing to follow the trail of the persons and ideas involved.<br /><br />nck<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> nckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-8092490114437934782018-01-31T09:15:52.194-08:002018-01-31T09:15:52.194-08:00Correct NEO. It is Baptist lop service and what th...Correct NEO. It is Baptist lop service and what they are supposed to day based on their upbrang'in. Alcoholism, stds, obesity, illness, smoking and all sorts of emotional abuse and repression is sky high. Generally they mean "you" should keep God's law.Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17266112796114131485noreply@blogger.com