tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post1747696152872466535..comments2024-03-28T22:34:16.707-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Living Church of God Smacks Down Bob Thiel, James Malm, and David C. Pack-- Again!NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-84122225597159915452013-10-26T17:12:15.477-07:002013-10-26T17:12:15.477-07:00Until then, you may want to take a look at the Ale...Until then, you may want to take a look at the Alexa ratings that Redfox has published on his excellent blog: Living Armstrongism. These ratings are neutral, not informed by any agenda. I suppose groups could have their members swarm their own sites to inflate the numbers, but the latest numbers do not appear to contain any trends one might think of as counterintuitive. (I hope I didn't just give someone a bad idea there!). <br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-43551016441858731572013-10-26T14:04:01.698-07:002013-10-26T14:04:01.698-07:00I've been waiting to see actual numbers for ph...I've been waiting to see actual numbers for physical attendance at the LCG feast sites. In the past, I recollect seeing separate numbers: one for the total number of physical attendance; another for physical attendance plus internet streaming. All I've seen so far is an approximate number for combined attendance. <br /><br />I pay more attention to the number(s) for physical attendance (even though, these are not all LCG members). The internet streaming estimates are just guesses. There's no way of knowing who were serious viewers, there by mistake or anti-LCG. Also, it is impossible to know just how many are viewing at each streaming device. These numbers are easily inflated.<br /><br />The next issue of the LCG News should have some physical numbers. Hopefully, they will give the numbers even if there was a drop in attendance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-91421275545186749232013-10-26T11:03:24.563-07:002013-10-26T11:03:24.563-07:00Anonymous 4:47, figures have been provided from ti...Anonymous 4:47, figures have been provided from time to time here, and on Gavin's sites, and at the Silenced blog spot, amongst others. People inside the various ACOG groups do talk and share with their relatives outside the groups, sometimes even sharing written correspondence from splinter group leaders. And then, there is The Journal.<br /><br />The gist of the growth topic, however, is this. HWA used his 30% annual growth figure as one of his "proofs" that his WCG was "God's True Church". If you accept that premise (which I do not), then none of the splinters even comes close to that figure. Even Dr. Thiel, when he was LCG's most vocal apologist, never suggested figures anywhere close to that. Time and again, when splinters (including LCG) have provided numbers for annual new baptisms, those numbers have not even been sufficient to overcome the natural attrition rate (people leaving, dying, etc).<br /><br />Articles have been written by people of various mindsets to attempt to explain this phenomenon. Insiders have used church eras, or quoted verses from the Bible prophesying a famine of the word in the end times, while outsiders have cited increased sophistication of the general population who would be the target audience for the message, and the ready availability of information which counters and disproves primary elements of Armstrongism, just a few mouseclicks away on the internet. <br /><br />You also need to consider what is and is not mocking or scoffing. Don't you agree that people need to be held accountable for their hyperbole when even their own figures do not match the boasting? Unfortunately, these guys' bizarre statements and behavior practically invites mocking, (not always for Godly reasons) and then when they are held accountable, they turn and invoke the mocking and scoffing scriptures, or label it as an attack from Satan.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-3370288925861411002013-10-26T10:27:25.782-07:002013-10-26T10:27:25.782-07:00In light of "Banned's" comic book po...In light of "Banned's" comic book portrayal in the original post...<br /><br />An acting out by Rod Meredith as "BATMAN"...<br /><br />***Commissioner Gordon: It could be any one of them... But which one? Which ones? <br /><br />Batman Meredith : Pretty *fishy* whats happening to MY CHURCH! ... <br /><br />Commissioner Gordon: You mean where there's a fish there could be a Penguin? <br /><br />Robin: But wait! It happened at sea... Sea. C for David C. Pack! <br /><br />Batman Meredith: Yet, again some website *was* pulling my leg... <br /><br />Commissioner Gordon: That's Malm ,the Joker! <br /><br />Chief O'Hara: All adds up to a sinister riddle... Riddle-... Thiel the.Riddler! <br /> <br />Commissioner Gordon: A thought strikes me... So dreadful I scarcely dare give it utterance...<br /> <br />Batman Meredith: The Three of them... Their forces combined... <br /><br />Robin: Holy nightmare! <br /><br />(smiles!) <br /><br />Joe Moeller <br />Cody, WY <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08762918803284340960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-36269864793464494642013-10-26T09:16:57.210-07:002013-10-26T09:16:57.210-07:00Today, there are men who call themselves “prophets...<i>Today, there are men who call themselves “prophets” and “apostles” and claim leadership in the Church of God, yet by their words and deeds we can see they have forgotten Who it is that can cause water to flow from solid rock</i><br /><br />Impressive! I didn't know Roderick Meredith could do that!<br /><br />He should win the church wars easily, if he can cause water to flow from solid rock -- he's certainly an expert in turning wine into water!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-30205751126598202532013-10-26T04:47:55.684-07:002013-10-26T04:47:55.684-07:00Could you people cite some sources regarding lcg&#...Could you people cite some sources regarding lcg's dwindling numbers and instability ? All I am seeing is a bunch of rumor and mockery...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-37506471448508555902013-10-25T20:42:34.474-07:002013-10-25T20:42:34.474-07:00Normally, you wouldn't think there would be da...Normally, you wouldn't think there would be danger of members of a moderate group being attracted to one that is Pharisaic, extreme, or cruel. But, LCG seems to be vulnerable at this point, so it is natural that they would be battening down the hatches. There is probably particular animus towards Thiel, since he is also an LCG defector.<br /><br />The big Kahuna, as go member-attractors, would be a runaway work that suddenly appeared to have the witness and blessing of God, breaking through into international prominence. This is the illusion Dave Pack attempted to create towards the end of summer and, of course, fell flat partially because he is in fact, Dave Pack, but also mostly because it was a crude and recognizable charade that was clumsily executed and lacked any sort of verifiable substance.<br /><br />As there are fewer and fewer ACOG members, stakes are going to get higher and higher. These little rivalries could escalate into full blown wars for the tithe pie, as financial survival becomes more and more of an issue. Hang on to your seats, fellow travelers, it's fixin' to become a white knuckle ride!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-85761612003319693092013-10-25T20:09:27.787-07:002013-10-25T20:09:27.787-07:00sounds to me like the pot is calling the kettle bl...sounds to me like the pot is calling the kettle black.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-60180393099580112492013-10-25T20:07:27.941-07:002013-10-25T20:07:27.941-07:00WAIT! ...
Isnt RCM himself also self appointed???...WAIT! ...<br /><br />Isnt RCM himself also self appointed???<br /><br />HWA too???<br /><br />Joe Moeller<br />Cody, WY Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08762918803284340960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-17030681067155224722013-10-25T20:01:43.540-07:002013-10-25T20:01:43.540-07:00Well, gosh...I had almost forgotten about the &quo...Well, gosh...I had almost forgotten about the "authority" of the WCG's HWA being passed to Rod Merideath...no, waitCorkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15894537940881776504noreply@blogger.com