tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post2414724749242421820..comments2024-03-28T04:23:41.363-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Philadelphia Church of God: Things to do on a date...NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-59143382754846887012016-05-06T10:51:52.927-07:002016-05-06T10:51:52.927-07:00I think Byker Bob has done a good job of explainin...I think Byker Bob has done a good job of explaining the situation back in the 70's. One of my fears was that I might end this life as a virgin. Of course I was going to be made into God, but spirit beings didn't have sex. Ministers (all married and had families) assured me that the wonders of being God would be so much greater than having sex.......but I still felt somewhat robbed. Plus I wanted to have children. <br /><br />Some ministers were even mentioning us (the single young people) in sermons. Ranting on about giving up eternal life for sex like Esau trading his birthright for a bowl of soup, and then there were the venereal disease warnings. <br /><br />We didn't go to doctors back then either, so I used to wonder if someone did get an STD would they get annointed, or would they go to the doctor and get antibiotics? Many of these situations were solved by our wonderful leaders who decided to allow divorce and remarriage, and medical care when THEY needed it. <br /><br />As for abortion, well that was another conumdrum. It was not ever mentioned because why would anyone in our church need one? In our local church an obese and fairly plain young woman suddenly had a baby. She was one of those girls who went completely unnoticed. In fact no one noticed she was pregnant. The story was that she was raped by a man who jumped out of a bush as she was walking home and after that she didn't know she was pregnant. I didn't really believe that story, and I hope things worked out for her and her child, I can't remember seeing her after she had the baby.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-8401393794039351222016-05-06T00:31:04.950-07:002016-05-06T00:31:04.950-07:00Actually, what is a slut or a druggie? In Armstro...Actually, what is a slut or a druggie? In Armstrongism, one or two illicit experiences pretty much branded you, if they were known. I knew people who honestly believed that if you had ever been married, and if the marriage ended in divorce, you could never truly be in love again. And then, of course, they found themselves divorced and ultimately falling in love with a new person. There were a fortunate few others who found something close to a soul mate right off the bat. And, then there were marriages that would never have happened, were it not for many of us regarding "1975" as the quintessential event horizon. When that didn't happen, snapping the fetters unleashed some risky and dangerous behavior, at least for a while, until a new sense of equillibrium was reached. Some were fearless. After being scared crapless about the Germans for decades, anything else that could possibly happen seemed almost tame.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-26508471449761944152016-05-05T22:27:43.722-07:002016-05-05T22:27:43.722-07:00They are! Right under the noises of the ministry? ...They are! Right under the noises of the ministry? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-75126159767110946502016-05-05T21:52:38.563-07:002016-05-05T21:52:38.563-07:00Why don't they just go out and screw like norm...Why don't they just go out and screw like normal teenagers and young adults?Hedgehoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15469150523006834550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-989603860789660322016-05-05T21:48:16.100-07:002016-05-05T21:48:16.100-07:00They need to leave that f____g church, grow some b...They need to leave that f____g church, grow some brains and think independently. Why in hell would normal adolescents or full-grown adults allow some "church" to tell them what to do, whom to date, or how to live their lives. It's insanity. Thanks Buddah or some Goddess of good sense, I never belonged to one of these Abrahamic religions and especially not to one of the authoritarian, fundamentalist ones. Hedgehoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15469150523006834550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-20805261979398850242016-05-05T16:25:24.255-07:002016-05-05T16:25:24.255-07:007:42 pm said:"very happy that I had sex with ...7:42 pm said:"very happy that I had sex with more people than just one or none,"<br /><br />"..one or none"? <br /><br />a freudian slip or did you mean rather than being a nun?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-52163743687802235952016-05-04T23:25:34.991-07:002016-05-04T23:25:34.991-07:00Talking of sex, one in five people has herpes. And...Talking of sex, one in five people has herpes. And that's a generalisation. Within the permissive segment, it would be close to 100%. Seeing that there is no cure, and that the medications that supress the symptoms cause long term health problems, you are nuts if you screw around. Keep it in the pants guys.<br />There a advertisement video on a $50 quake cure for herpes (it's good to get a dissident viewpoint) and as it says, herpes is a real relationship killer. <br />"Hello, I've got herpes."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-5363209026133569272016-05-04T20:27:00.178-07:002016-05-04T20:27:00.178-07:00Sex is not dirty? It is if you're doing it rig...Sex is not dirty? It is if you're doing it right.<br /><br />(Apologies to Woody Allen)Retired Profnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-26723500402111040932016-05-04T15:00:55.117-07:002016-05-04T15:00:55.117-07:00That was the one good thing about the WCG, they di...That was the one good thing about the WCG, they didn't teach that sex is dirty.<br />I can't help noticing that the people who are promiscuous, just about always have a poor character.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-23754525675683060842016-05-04T08:49:05.767-07:002016-05-04T08:49:05.767-07:00Anon at 7:17: Nicely put. And closing with an exce...Anon at 7:17: Nicely put. And closing with an excellent zinger at 7:42. You sound like a woman worth knowing.<br /><br />I"m not flirting with you. I'm happily and irrevocably married, even after 44 years. I just mean it's fun to be around people with the kind of joie de vivre you express.Retired Profnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-41871775926585563432016-05-03T19:42:46.782-07:002016-05-03T19:42:46.782-07:00and anonymous 9:06, I do not regret my sexual expe...and anonymous 9:06, I do not regret my sexual experiences 40 years ago at all. In fact I am very happy that I had sex with more people than just one or none, perhaps it was the best part of my life. I did make a point of avoiding men who were angry and had chips on their shoulder and called women sluts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-28239068485958278822016-05-03T19:17:32.555-07:002016-05-03T19:17:32.555-07:00anonymous 9:43. All I can say is I am very happy ...anonymous 9:43. All I can say is I am very happy not to have been a virgin my whole life. Are there any people who never experienced any of these pleasures because of that screwed up church. Definitely the leaders had more than their fill and didn't miss any earthly pleasures.<br /><br />It wasn't so much my choice to be in a cult because I grew up in it -- I was brainwashed no doubt. When I went to AC and saw how the leaders lived and how GTA acted around the female students I wasn't too innocent to understand what was going on. <br />Yes those early years of freedom after I left were wonderful, and probably the church made it more exciting to taste forbidden fruit. None of us knows what we would have done if we hadn't had the influence of WCG, this is especially so for those of us who were children in the cult.........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-61443770239281940982016-05-03T09:06:39.509-07:002016-05-03T09:06:39.509-07:00anonymous @9:43
Don't use your choice to rema...anonymous @9:43<br /><br />Don't use your choice to remain in a cult at a young age as an excuse for you being a slut/druggie when you decided to finally break free. You did all that of your own accord and no one forced you to do that.<br /><br />Your self worth isn't determined by others but by what standard you hold yourself to.<br /><br />Do you feel better about yourself now that you've ridden the cock carousel?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-71486213661111319022016-05-02T09:43:26.838-07:002016-05-02T09:43:26.838-07:00It seems we all had different experiences after we...It seems we all had different experiences after we left the WCG and Ambassador dating scene. My sympathies with you Richard from the Lake of Fire cog. Perhaps if I had known you back when you were 20 we could have had some fun. I left when I was 21, and my first achievements were to make up for lost time. Within a few weeks I had had sex with several worldly men (I am a woman heterosexual). They were reasonably nice but thought I was troubled. I also tried several different types of drugs..... As one of those early boyfriends pointed out, most girls go thru years of flirting, kissing, almost doing it before they take the plunge so to speak -- I was somehow missing all that preliminary stuff. <br /> <br />Years later I met a few of the young guys who were in the local church back then (this was the 1970's so a totally different time and church men were almost normal). They told me what a lot of fun they had with the church girls, and you know what they say about catholic girls, the same was true they said. It sounds like todays church men are not much fun at all. Nobody needs to pay when you are sitting in the back of a car smoking a joint, then lying on the beach together......<br /> <br />It always helps if the man has a car........no matter who you are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-53803863494100456992016-05-02T07:28:31.636-07:002016-05-02T07:28:31.636-07:00Oops 2:12 should be at the Jelly thread.
nckOops 2:12 should be at the Jelly thread.<br /><br />nckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-61134721416488140342016-05-02T07:26:06.689-07:002016-05-02T07:26:06.689-07:00nck What are you smoking?nck What are you smoking?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-21537480581554234822016-05-02T02:12:39.732-07:002016-05-02T02:12:39.732-07:00Most doctrines of all major religions apply to DNA...Most doctrines of all major religions apply to DNA.<br /><br />Hindu are right on the molecular and atomic level.<br />Christians are right on the level that Man is the Carier or Vessel of the Sacred in himself (that is DNA).<br />Strict adherence to Islam and Catholic doctrine ensures the survival of DNA and I am not even talking about the Mormons.<br /><br />All social interaction and social adhesion serves the purposes of Maslowian comfort and the procreation of that that is inherent in the vessel of man. (dna)<br /><br />DNR was a big thing in early Armstrongism. He was half right. It should have been DNA.<br />If Elon Musk gets its way. DNA is soon going to start claiming its inheritance among the stars, starting at planet Mars.<br /><br />nck <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-48060841868742779042016-05-01T21:53:12.555-07:002016-05-01T21:53:12.555-07:007.15 AM Mickey, you are referring to a man courtin...7.15 AM Mickey, you are referring to a man courting a woman for marriage. I agree with you there. There's the old adage that a tight purse is ugly in courting. <br />But that's not what I was referring to in my first post. Most dating in the church isn't courting, but simply socialising. This is almost unique. In free society, if a man asks a woman out, it's because he likes the woman and sees a potential mate. In the church this typically isn't the case, since there is a limited number of singles. Because of this, I question whether the man should pay at all. In many congregations, men outnumbered woman. The result was that the woman could ignore their date, or even abuse them and still be asked out. This was a common complaint. For many woman, the church was a social gold mine. Woman that would rarely, if ever be asked out in the real world, were socially booked out weeks in advance. Spoilt brats, as I said. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-43423021676534646202016-05-01T13:12:28.972-07:002016-05-01T13:12:28.972-07:00The longer I live, the more I agree with the ficti...The longer I live, the more I agree with the fictional guy saved from a planetary colony on Star Trek who said that you just put two young people in close proximity and lat nature take its course. I would add that a little moral guidance, prucent sex education and caution would be good too. We humans seem determined to compicate everything. Allen C. DexterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-45630254136966936272016-04-30T17:47:19.603-07:002016-04-30T17:47:19.603-07:00Amy Flurry gave me a stern lecture when I baked co...Amy Flurry gave me a stern lecture when I baked cookies for a male friend several States away. She said that was a form of dating and very inappropriate. She advised me to counsel a minister immediately!<br />Fugg! The mindset of these people!<br />Here at HQs you have people that whore around and are promiscuous and no one says anything. Then you have those that are prude and they get sent to the ministry!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-80321513527418006952016-04-30T17:16:28.973-07:002016-04-30T17:16:28.973-07:00Anonymous at 11:31
Nice ad-hom there kiddo. Anonymous at 11:31<br /><br />Nice ad-hom there kiddo. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-73364581515763078732016-04-30T11:55:19.573-07:002016-04-30T11:55:19.573-07:00Looking at these photos, that generation had a ver...Looking at these photos, that generation had a very distinctive dress personality. Every 10 years or so, music, hair, dress styles are noticeably different. Every generation wants to feel different in some ways to previous generations. Consider how Americas founding fathers dressed. This has to be from God. Yet the WCG demanded members be stuck in the 1940s or 1950s fashion wise, the same generation as Herbie or Rod. The home, sweet home look. Perhaps they would have church members watch Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers movies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-9840765990581332712016-04-30T11:31:03.302-07:002016-04-30T11:31:03.302-07:00Never forget, brethren, classic, vintage American ...Never forget, brethren, classic, vintage American culture is what the first century apostles were raised with.<br /><br />The apostles only watched shows like Father In Heaven Knows Best, or Leave it to Jesus on their Bedrock-style stone television sets. No Euripides or Shakespeare.<br /><br />The apostles only listened to Big Band or classical music. None of those Elizabethan brothel jigs or modern rock-n-roll.<br /><br />The apostles only wore suits, ties, button-down shirts, and leather-soled shoes. None of those pagan togas, or foppish breeches and hosiery.<br /><br />None of the apostles wore hipster beards or 19th-century burnsides, powdered wigs, colonial-style ponytails or medieval pageboy haircuts, no sir! They were all cleanshaven with short-cropped haircuts, just like Jesus!<br /><br />If one must wear glasses, spectacles or hornrims are always appropriate. Don't go for those rectangular, demonic, Eurotrash lenses.<br /><br />This will be the culture and style of the kingdom of god, brethren! Better get used to it. Everything that came earlier is of the devil, and everything that came later is also of the devil. Stephennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-73596371741199246992016-04-30T09:41:40.503-07:002016-04-30T09:41:40.503-07:00Yeh, 6:43, theirs is one sad case, extreme enough ...Yeh, 6:43, theirs is one sad case, extreme enough to where one could almost recommend that as good therapy for perhaps a couple years. It'd alter their minds from the legalistic, almost inhuman view.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-64025540425372961792016-04-30T08:48:36.841-07:002016-04-30T08:48:36.841-07:00This post echos back to my youthful Worldwide Chur...This post echos back to my youthful Worldwide Church of God experience. I left the cult at age 20, but because I still harbored many of the beliefs inside of me for many years beyond my exit including (but not limited) dating outside the Church which was prohibited. Besides, internally I felt too weird and different to date anyone outside the Armstrong religion.<br /><br />So how does a person who grew up in the Worldwide Church of God, leaves at age 20, whose siblings all married within the Church finds a mate in this society? <br /><br />The answer is I didn't until much latter in life. And this is most troubling aspect of the Armstrong experience for me personally. I didn't have a "wife of my youth" to rejoice in. Then there is the children that I didn't have. I spent most of my adult life single and alone. Thanks Mr. Armstrong!<br /><br />Richard Lake of Fire Church of Godnoreply@blogger.com