tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post3377524752604141004..comments2024-03-28T13:58:12.329-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: LCG: Gerald Weston Discusses Billy GrahamNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-51522836288794079492018-05-10T10:22:11.705-07:002018-05-10T10:22:11.705-07:00The circulation count is still in the magazine The circulation count is still in the magazine Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-57953082459596104132018-05-06T23:03:33.179-07:002018-05-06T23:03:33.179-07:00I can imagine the Biker saying on the leather jack...I can imagine the Biker saying on the leather jackets. I liked how wcg quality experts wove leather jackets into john the baptists wardrobe.<br /><br />Now on another note. HWA used to describe himself as "one sent forth" or an Ambassador.<br /><br />Mr R described himself as the church's "secretary of state". <br /><br />In my world the secretary of state is the ambassador's boss. I also believe CPA's are exact in their wording especially with additional legal training.<br /><br />Ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-75168163759055030652018-05-06T21:55:21.909-07:002018-05-06T21:55:21.909-07:00BB
I think HWA was just "doing his thing&quo...BB<br /><br />I think HWA was just "doing his thing" as reported on openly.<br /><br />Although in sermons he hinted that he " could not tell all" leaders opened up to him. <br /><br />This opportunity was seized upon when after returning from travels we read that the GII stopped "there and there" since Mr R "had business in the area".<br /><br />I interpret this as "debriefing".<br /><br />The "japanese sons" were a symbiosis. Japan post wwII had difficulty finding its non beligerent new place in the world. The sons were the front men of the ruling elites of modern japan ruling the nation for over 60 years post ww2. GII tool them to the Gulf States, South America. South Africa. Israel.<br /><br />Dr K listed being a high technology consultant for Japan and Israel as his 2nd career after having been wcg consultant.<br /><br />Ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-50482176011360218122018-05-06T14:49:12.380-07:002018-05-06T14:49:12.380-07:00OK, nck, your last paragraph told the tale. If HW...OK, nck, your last paragraph told the tale. If HWA was reporting to the CIA, and if these leaders with whom he had his photo ops were unaware of it, then HWA was just as disingenuous with them as he was with all of us! Japanese “sons”? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, puke-giggle-spit, ha ha ha! <br /><br />An old biker saying also serves as an apt description of HWA: Sworn to fun; loyal to none! Bastard was into everything for himself.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-77314572924536181012018-05-06T13:29:21.316-07:002018-05-06T13:29:21.316-07:002:42
Dont be ridiculous.
HWA visited all the blac...2:42<br /><br />Dont be ridiculous.<br />HWA visited all the black leaders of decolonised british africa<br /> The lion of judah black royalty of ethiopia and swaziland. All the rest you dont like was in tune with us foreign policy goals and domestic order.<br /><br />HWA did more for jewish -arab relations than graham would ever want. As a matter of fact Israel is very aware that christianity is not the jews historical friend. And somehow they granted our little sect to do there bidding in japan, south america and south africa.<br /><br />I wont mention the 3 letter c i am club that loved the intelligence gathered through heart to heart talks.<br /><br />Ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-256489670208419112018-05-06T10:08:11.311-07:002018-05-06T10:08:11.311-07:00This is interesting. I like it when people from m...This is interesting. I like it when people from many different backgrounds share both their Armstrong-related experiences, and their life-experiences. Everyone’s story is important and should be told. As someone who spent about 6 years of my youth living in a white area of the country, I was always fascinated by the diversity we would see amongst church members at the feasts. There were people speaking Spanish or French amongst themselves in the campgrounds, African-Americans and Native Americans, and a wide variety of white minorities besides the Anglo Saxons. In the early days of the dissident forums and blogs, I had always wondered why it seemed that we’d been diminished to only white people commenting and sharing. Surely there was so much more to hear and to learn. After all, Armstrongism had been both damaging and unfair to all and we needed to see and understand the full picture. So, in many ways, these are the good old days!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-55566091310687078992018-05-06T10:07:48.893-07:002018-05-06T10:07:48.893-07:00This is interesting. I like it when people from m...This is interesting. I like it when people from many different backgrounds share both their Armstrong-related experiences, and their life-experiences. Everyone’s story is important and should be told. As someone who spent about 6 years of my youth living in a white area of the country, I was always fascinated by the diversity we would see amongst church members at the feasts. There were people speaking Spanish or French amongst themselves in the campgrounds, African-Americans and Native Americans, and a wide variety of white minorities besides the Anglo Saxons. In the early days of the dissident forums and blogs, I had always wondered why it seemed that we’d been diminished to only white people commenting and sharing. Surely there was so much more to hear and to learn. After all, Armstrongism had been both damaging and unfair to all and we needed to see and understand the full picture. So, in many ways, these are the good old days!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-45999179934962855012018-05-06T08:34:46.152-07:002018-05-06T08:34:46.152-07:00Thundercloud
Your people might have been wiped ou...Thundercloud<br /><br />Your people might have been wiped out by the Remmington, The Flu or the Booze, but some here were part of the pre - 1974 wcg, soooooooooo,, eat that my friend...<br /><br /><br />ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-59876470987128763922018-05-06T07:20:11.898-07:002018-05-06T07:20:11.898-07:00This blog has sadly, become as mired in identity t...This blog has sadly, become as mired in identity type "politics" as any you find in the political arena.<br /><br />On one side, most come here to decry their WWCG or Armstrong connections and the long term effects they've had for each of us, maybe even looking for answers or a new direction to go.<br /><br />But it doesn't just stop there, as other, just as "out there" agendas, rise to take their place, which people are almost as rabid in protecting as any COG group or minister ever has with their pet thoughts, beliefs and practices.<br /><br />This posting, as an example, has evolved into a pissing match proclaiming the high ground and demanding that "my side" must be acknowledged and even , "tolerated", while no, or very little tolerance or quarter is given that might even show the holes in their own argument.<br /><br />Maybe this is what happens when one void happens..... something WILL take its place and it often becomes as much of our baby, as all the ranting a raving we've all done, against the one common enemy.<br /><br />I see and know that my experiences in the church are unique to me, as are all of ours. But replacing them with arguments or Custer Last Stand-like reasoning's, can come across nearly as autocratic or even disingenuous, when you peel back the new onion and realize just replacing something with another, may eventually become like day old fish left in the sun.<br /><br />The only difference is, it is now ME at the helm and we expect all should now just accept this as my new life altering viewpoint, which we're all entitled to, but when it becomes no better in discussing or practice than some highbrow name calling, one-up-manship, or even a rabid embellishing that my new belief system or whatever is your / my stated stand is the cat's meow and you defend it voraciously, perhaps it's time to look in the mirror and look for the beam.<br /><br />The church did much damage to many of us, but honestly looking for solutions or a scintilla of new direction, is often pretty much fuzzy math here too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-68354973313246315412018-05-06T04:20:04.359-07:002018-05-06T04:20:04.359-07:00May it be so.May it be so.RSKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06427255805476848046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-25444190051933701012018-05-06T00:09:11.251-07:002018-05-06T00:09:11.251-07:00my apologies, thunder cloud...indeed your referenc...my apologies, thunder cloud...indeed your reference to lakota rather than sioux speaks volumes...again, i apologize...<br /><br />i myself have some cherokee blood by virtue of my mothers grandfather, so i respect the nations..<br /><br />c f ben yochanan Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13397053300780941012018-05-05T23:27:48.804-07:002018-05-05T23:27:48.804-07:00There are always going to be assholes who find a r...There are always going to be assholes who find a reason to hate people who are different from themselves. Some even believe that they can intellectualize their bigotry, and that doing so somehow makes their opinions less ignorant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-43429314108107299602018-05-05T21:18:27.401-07:002018-05-05T21:18:27.401-07:00I am lakota, not Cherokee. I lived most of my life...I am lakota, not Cherokee. I lived most of my life on a reservation here in North Dakota. So nice try.Michael Thundercloudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-28425270157890616942018-05-05T21:17:56.981-07:002018-05-05T21:17:56.981-07:00if what you say about graham is true, that is enco...if what you say about graham is true, that is encouraging, but i feel he couldve done much more on the issue of civil rights for all americans; afterall: if the establishment doesnt hate you like it hated Christ, is one indeed Christlike?<br /><br />c f ben yochananAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-61305010996712395202018-05-05T20:02:45.369-07:002018-05-05T20:02:45.369-07:00There is a phenomenon we are familiar with wheneve...There is a phenomenon we are familiar with whenever race may be a topic. That is the White Person Who Suddenly Claims 1/64th Cherokee Ancestry in an attempt to discredit whatever the topic is.<br />Its really a stupid tactic - if you've lived your entire life as a white person, then your <4cM of DNA originating with the People is completely irrelevant. And its so common that its just a yawn-able cliche at this point that makes its user look stupid.<br />But we see/hear it very frequently. So don't go thinking it's original, it's most definitely not.<br /><br />Now, maybe "Thundercloud" just happens to be a bona fide member of the People who spent decades confined to a Federal reservation and experienced the hardship that some of them did in past decades and still somehow ended up in a COG to boot, but probability says that's not likely.RSKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06427255805476848046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-16358322827942392702018-05-05T15:59:29.867-07:002018-05-05T15:59:29.867-07:00Anonymous 12:22, you are a racist prick! And a cow...Anonymous 12:22, you are a racist prick! And a coward for hiding behind the handle "anonymous".David Rickmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-69359730736467580732018-05-05T15:53:00.408-07:002018-05-05T15:53:00.408-07:00Whoa - is Gerald Weston going after "American...Whoa - is Gerald Weston going after "American football" now? Like Dr. Thiel has done for years?<br /><br />LCG's Wallace Smith would object to that. He did to Dr. Thiel's anti-football posts several years ago.R.L.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-35375550262823090182018-05-05T15:06:17.352-07:002018-05-05T15:06:17.352-07:00regardless, i have to give you credit for ur effor...regardless, i have to give you credit for ur efforts to distract from my pointing out the fact that neither hwa or graham were preachers of the Loving Nature of Christ; nice try...<br /><br />c f ben yochananAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-26592639896986028042018-05-05T15:01:33.961-07:002018-05-05T15:01:33.961-07:00thundercloud? sounds like a stereotypical moniker ...thundercloud? sounds like a stereotypical moniker that a colonist's descendant might use in yet another typiclly misguided, insensitive effort to deceive and minimize the point...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-82321956916372088192018-05-05T14:42:42.923-07:002018-05-05T14:42:42.923-07:00Billy Graham invited Dr. King to pray at a crusade...Billy Graham invited Dr. King to pray at a crusade in 1957. He also paid King's bail at least once when he was arrested. Can any of us honestly picture HWA doing these things? Hell no! HWA would be saying "Let the dead bury the dead!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-23800254870656607982018-05-05T14:36:04.884-07:002018-05-05T14:36:04.884-07:0012:22 ~ please cite authentic statistics to suppo...12:22 ~ please cite authentic statistics to support your theory. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-4203437242665842772018-05-05T12:22:27.083-07:002018-05-05T12:22:27.083-07:00The native Americans were wiping each other out fa...The native Americans were wiping each other out faster than white people were wiping them out. If the white man never came the genocide would still be going on. Their suffering ended when they got technology from the white man. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-73173307466010492982018-05-05T10:28:02.703-07:002018-05-05T10:28:02.703-07:00ANONYMOUS WROTE: "as a black man i dont see b...ANONYMOUS WROTE: "as a black man i dont see billy graham as being any different than hwa: both were hypocritical when it came to the matter of civil rights for african and chicano americans"<br /><br /><br />MY RESPONSE: Why are you surprised? Wasn't Billy Graham a Cracker? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910856904624749641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-52334260728751447922018-05-05T09:07:43.032-07:002018-05-05T09:07:43.032-07:00Anon 6:32 AM, You speak of civil rights, and I ag...Anon 6:32 AM, You speak of civil rights, and I agree, but what about my people, the white man tried to wipe out the Native Americans and almost succeeded. I think my people have suffered much more than Africans or Mexicans. That is a fact of this country's history!Thundercloudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-32762728205347536152018-05-05T06:32:13.947-07:002018-05-05T06:32:13.947-07:00as a black man i dont see billy graham as being an...as a black man i dont see billy graham as being any different than hwa: both were hypocritical when it came to the matter of civil rights for african and chicano americans; indeed neither were willing to incorporate Christs Message of Justice, Mercy, and Faith, love for ones fellow man, and being thy brothers keeper into their core doctrine...<br /><br />they were cut from the same cloth, and both were a tree bearing the fruit of hypocrisy: indeed both rejected 1 Corinthians 13...<br /><br />c f ben yochananAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com