tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post3475979977009641126..comments2024-03-28T17:43:47.657-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Is Living Church of God Having A "Demon" Problem?NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13563189507202993372016-05-01T15:11:19.337-07:002016-05-01T15:11:19.337-07:00I wonder what Priam thinks of LCG's demon prob...I wonder what Priam thinks of LCG's demon problem. Where are you??? It's interesting that no pro-LCGers came on to refute this story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-49042407142882720572016-04-30T17:24:39.682-07:002016-04-30T17:24:39.682-07:00Well I certainly hope the LCG media swingers are b...Well I certainly hope the LCG media swingers are better at shagging than they are at producing quality programing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-60075787148344198472016-04-30T13:07:36.976-07:002016-04-30T13:07:36.976-07:00I have heard several people that work at LCG headq...I have heard several people that work at LCG headquarters in Charlotte say that they think there are demons in the media building (LCG owns two buildings next door to one another). Some have said that they are "sex demons" and that is why there was such a rampant problem with adulterous office sex going when the media employees "worked late" into the night.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-69111218553848509762016-04-27T11:15:05.092-07:002016-04-27T11:15:05.092-07:00And that continuation follows:
There is another g...And that continuation follows:<br /><br />There is another group (vast majority of the world) of sheep, not yet of this fold, that God will yet deal with. After all, the Father sent His Son to save the world...and NOT condemn the world; didn't He? God is not a respecter of persons, but He has a Plan and He must do things decently and in order, whether we agree with Him or not. What about them "other sheep?"<br /><br />John 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.<br />16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.<br /><br />Those sheep won't be brought by Jesus Christ until AFTER the Bride is completed, AFTER the 1,000 years, AFTER Satan is loosed from the bottomless pit, AFTER that short/little time/season...and Satan and his angels are AGAIN subdued...in fact, destroyed...and at some point thereafter, the second resurrection occurs for "the rest." There is no need of a 3rd resurrection.<br /><br />Anyway, God, not being any respecter of persons, will pour out His Spirit upon the "other sheep" at that time, because they too will be blessed with that gift also.<br /><br />Perhaps you may be wondering: how does God know all about these things?<br /><br />"Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world." Acts 15:18<br /><br />Huh? Not everyone will believe that, but for those who do there is also this:<br /><br />"For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world." Hebrews 4:3<br /><br />That Groom was completed, sort of speak. The Bride will have been completed, sort of speak. After that and a wedding, however that works out, there comes the children...usually, but Satan also has his own ways of doing things (John 8:44; Eph 2:2) and accomplishing sin (I John 3:8 "He that committeth sin is of the devil..." - e.g. as in the murder of Abel in :12) in this world's inhabitants and, for example, bring children along before a wedding. Such is life in this present evil world.<br /><br />Anyway, God just does His will in accomplishing His Plan of Salvation to save all humanity and subsequently take/destroy Satan and his angels.<br /><br />And time really will tell........<br /><br />John<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-20980309183967428262016-04-27T11:13:55.296-07:002016-04-27T11:13:55.296-07:00Ralph, April 25, 2016 at 10:40 AM asked:
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&q...Ralph, April 25, 2016 at 10:40 AM asked:<br />******<br />"...John, are you suggesting that none today have been blessed with the gift of the Holy Spirit?..."<br />******<br />No, I have suggested no such thing. After God made that Groom, it was near time for the creation of a Bride, which the Bible speaks of. That Bride has not yet been completed, but the building of it has been in process for the past approximately 2,000 years now.<br /><br />An analogy was used by Jesus Christ where sheep, as part of a fold, exist in some pasture:<br /><br />John 10:7 "Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.<br />8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.<br />9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture."<br /><br />Those sheep of God's Church are in the world, but not of the world, as part of a fold in some pasture: a place where one is fed spiritual food, sort of speak. Christ is the "Door." When is a door not a door? Most say: "When it is ajar," but there is another answer. "When it is Christ!" Why did the Israelites put lamb's shed blood on their doorposts? It pictured way off in the future a "Lamb," who would one day be sacrificed and covered with his own shed blood - another story!<br /><br />So, God does give out His gift of His Spirit to those sheep. What is a benefit of that? There are many, but here is one: they shall be saved! We read that in verse 9. The Bride, or a Body, can be another analogy. It is still incomplete. It's a work of God in progress. God begins something in each "sheep" and God says He will finish, or complete, it (Phil 1:6), or He lied to us. And each of them sheep are drawn/dragged by the Father into that pasture. God knows they won't voluntarily come to Him, because of another spirit that dwells within them (Eph 2:2; James 4:5, etc.), but He has veys to help us cooperate. God can't fail! God Spirit will be given to those who make up this one fold, and when it is completed, that will not be the end of God's works. Why not?<br /><br />To be con’t<br /><br />John<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-50043647956570454572016-04-27T10:21:08.512-07:002016-04-27T10:21:08.512-07:00Ralph, April 25, 2016 at 10:40 AM wrote:
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&q...Ralph, April 25, 2016 at 10:40 AM wrote:<br />******<br />"...also:-<br />"We have been told by Jesus Christ that the world cannot yet have God's Spirit to guide and lead them:<br />"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world CANNOT receive..." John 14:17<br />How did Jesus know that? Blindness prevails to this very day! What's new?"<br />******<br /><br />Frank,<br /><br />Yes, blindness prevails to this very day as part of God's Plan of Salvation to save all humanity and later take/destroy Satan and his angels, but how did Jesus know what He knew? How did He know it wasn't time for the world to receive God's Spirit?<br /><br />Oh, Jesus was just very smart! No, not really, but He did have a lot of help b/c He told us that of Himself He could do nothing. It was also said of Jesus that:<br /><br />Hebrews 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.<br />:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren..."<br /><br />He was flesh, blood and bone...just like us..."like unto his brethren" as it says there, but Jesus still had a lot of help. He, like us, was the workmanship of His Father's hands...and the Father was making a perfect Groom...the Bride had to later be made. Similarly, when was Adam made? Just before Eve. God always does things decently and in order; doesn't He? God is not the author of confusion, although there is an author of confusion.<br /><br />So, how did Jesus know? Here is a very helpful verse, among others, to explain what He knew if we allow Jesus Himself to tell us:<br /><br /><br />John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.<br /><br />Believe? Ephesians 1:19, in an earlier post, explained believing came by way of God's Spirit.<br /><br />John<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-7826566668957995782016-04-27T09:46:44.423-07:002016-04-27T09:46:44.423-07:00Ralph, April 25, 2016 at 10:40 AM wrote
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&qu...Ralph, April 25, 2016 at 10:40 AM wrote<br />******<br />"...John wrote:-<br /><br />much that I find agreeable, including numerous scripture references. However he missed one I would like to see where he says at the end of his first segment:-<br />"....which is impossible if He is at the Father’s right hand until all enemies are subdued, put down, etc.)..."<br />******<br />Ralph, perhaps you may find some of the following scriptures helpful:<br /><br />Psalm 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, UNTIL I MAKE thine enemies thy footstool.<br /><br />Matthew 22:44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, TILL I MAKE thine enemies thy footstool?<br /><br />Mark 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, TILL I MAKE thine enemies thy footstool.<br /><br />Hebrews 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, UNTIL I MAKE thine enemies thy footstool?<br /><br />1 Peter 3:22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers BEING MADE SUBJECT unto him.<br /><br />Those enemies include Satan and his angels, but they are not the last of the enemies. Here is another enemy that will not be finally taken care of until AFTER Satan, God's enemy, is allowed to exit that "bottomless pit" and again deceive the entire world. That is AFTER the theoretical Mickey Mouse Millennium, Satan-inspired man-made, of 1,000 years occurs and lasts for a short/little time/season.<br /><br />And that last enemy? What is it?<br /><br />1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.<br /><br />Who has the power of death? Another one of the enemies!<br /><br />"Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;" Hebrews 2:14<br /><br />Those verses show that Jesus Christ cannot return to reign on earth before that 1,000 years that we learned about from WCG and so many xcogs still falsely teach today.<br /><br />That is not to mention/re-consider that so many people also turn a blind to Jesus Christ's return to earth again, for a second time, after His murder, burial, 3 days/nights in the grave, resurrection and visit to His Father in Heaven. He did not stay in Heaven, but returned to earth for a second time, but only for 40 days...a real second coming?<br /><br />John<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-25231146246557482752016-04-27T06:46:56.841-07:002016-04-27T06:46:56.841-07:00Hahahahha! Ass cream! Hahahahha! Ass cream! RSKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-38866565117302434012016-04-26T22:14:11.205-07:002016-04-26T22:14:11.205-07:00Maise, or corn?
Regional stuff can often become c...Maise, or corn?<br /><br />Regional stuff can often become confusing. Some poor guy from Texas comes into the store asking for ice cream and the young guy stocking shelves misunderstands his accent and sends him over to the aisle where the Preparation H is kept.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-33625054932312496752016-04-26T20:31:21.698-07:002016-04-26T20:31:21.698-07:00That would be the "Sheaf of Corn" (somet...That would be the "Sheaf of Corn" (sometimes wheat or some other grain, but typically maize on this side of the ocean). Hangs from the ceiling in some form in most lodges. RSKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-44878559836079993462016-04-26T16:36:59.658-07:002016-04-26T16:36:59.658-07:00Many LCG Charlotte brethren think there are demons...Many LCG Charlotte brethren think there are demons in the Masonic Temple we meet in each Sabbath. I have heard stories of everything from getting an "eerie feeling" that make the hairs on the back of one's neck stand up to people claiming to have actually seen them while at church services. There have been stories of strange things happening in the "corn room" which is a room used for some ritual unknown to me that has corn in the husks hanging from the ceiling among throne-like chairs and other strange items. I have also heard about weird things happening in the little room ministers use to anoint and/or counsel people in that sits between the auditorium and the fellowship room. Most shrug it off believing that the demons couldn't possibly influence them in a room full of God's people. I guess they feel stronger than, shall we say Judas, who actually had personal interaction for an extended period of time with our Lord. Perhaps they believe that Rod Meredith makes them impervious. One thing's for sure, that building is creepy and I loathe going into it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-48078414011424585282016-04-26T16:24:56.309-07:002016-04-26T16:24:56.309-07:00"Does the Living Church of God Have a Demon P..."Does the Living Church of God Have a Demon Problem?"<br /><br />Yes. And their names are Rod Meredith and Rod McNair. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-5014095650512700172016-04-26T10:53:12.487-07:002016-04-26T10:53:12.487-07:00I always think it is strange that people ridicule ...I always think it is strange that people ridicule scientology because it follows the ideas of a science fiction writer........and yet so much of what WCG believed is stranger. Then many of the Catholic ideas about purgatory, hell etc., rival anything for fantasy. <br /><br />Perhaps the group that most reminds me of WCG is the Jehovahs Witnesses, and they are convinced that they are right and everyone else is wrong. <br /><br />The great science fiction writer William Gibson was quite a prophet and predicted our modern world with perhaps more accuracy than anyone (and he is still alive, but his recent books do not compare with books like Neuromancy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-39777694616884902462016-04-26T09:19:47.479-07:002016-04-26T09:19:47.479-07:00BARFBARFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-68433377057342090022016-04-25T19:09:13.656-07:002016-04-25T19:09:13.656-07:00April 25, 2016 at 10:40 AM
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much that...April 25, 2016 at 10:40 AM<br />John wrote:-<br /><br />much that I find agreeable, including numerous scripture references. However he missed one I would like to see where he says at the end of his first segment:-<br />"....which is impossible if He is at the Father’s right hand until all enemies are subdued, put down, etc.)<br /><br />also:-<br />"We have been told by Jesus Christ that the world cannot yet have God's Spirit to guide and lead them:<br />"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world CANNOT receive..." John 14:17<br />How did Jesus know that? Blindness prevails to this very day! What's new?"<br /><br />John, are you suggesting that none today have been blessed with the gift of the Holy Spirit?<br /><br />cheers<br />ralph.fRalphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-6577538975748882852016-04-25T18:55:57.379-07:002016-04-25T18:55:57.379-07:003.10 PM asks "What would Jesus write to your ...3.10 PM asks "What would Jesus write to your church today?" That's easy. I'm sure He would write something like: "Why have you reject my way of trade as I taught in the parable of the talents? Why have you instead embraced the traditions of Pharisaic men with their 'give way.' This is nothing more than robbing Peter to give to Paul, or 'passing the wealth around,' as your president Obama puts it. You should have heeded my servant TradingGuy. Bye now, keep up your prayer and bible study."<br /><br />Cheers TradingGuyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-21614741636121521612016-04-25T15:25:59.917-07:002016-04-25T15:25:59.917-07:00Question "Is the church an organization or i...Question "Is the church an organization or is it the body of Christ...." <br />Answer Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-76105864505659925752016-04-25T15:10:06.356-07:002016-04-25T15:10:06.356-07:00The churches of Revelation . . . era, perhaps; lo...The churches of Revelation . . . era, perhaps; local churches of the time . . or traits found in all churches? Understanding needn't be one or another. . . perhaps all are correct. They were churches at the time . . . they may reflect the church throughout history; and we can say that they characterize churches today and, may I say, individuals. What would Jesus write to your church today? What would he write to you, personally, today? Perhaps it is more important for us to consider these questions than divide ourselves over which meaning is most correct.Steve Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03186651595432665670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-27434376738408389362016-04-25T10:40:20.321-07:002016-04-25T10:40:20.321-07:00And it is continued here now...
Many who have obs...And it is continued here now...<br /><br />Many who have observed a Passover service, either in the distant past, or in the most recent past: they would most likely have read and/or have heard something like the following:<br /><br />John 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which SHALL believe on me through their word;<br /><br />Jesus Christ was thinking about disciples who lived in his day and age...as well as others way off in the future who "...shall believe on me through THEIR word."<br /><br />Well, if there is no word, or if that word is just a bunch of lies, then what do you have? Did Jesus Christ lie to us too? Are the Father and His Son the liars? And the Bible does speak of liars b/c Jesus said the following to the religious leaders of His day:<br /><br />"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." John 8:44<br /><br />If you were Satan; how would you inspire people to think about God the Father and Jesus Christ? Just look at the world and see, but, back to John 17:<br /><br />21 "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world MAY BELIEVE that thou hast sent me.<br />22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:"<br /><br />Does the world today believe that God the Father sent Jesus Christ? Does the world today believe that God the Father sent Christ our Passover sacrificed for us? Does the world today believe that God the Father sent some Lamb slain from before the foundation of the world?<br /><br />Who in the world even knows God the Father, the one mentioned in that verse 22?<br /><br />We have been told by Jesus Christ that the world cannot yet have God's Spirit to guide and lead them:<br /><br />"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world CANNOT receive..." John 14:17<br /><br />How did Jesus know that? Blindness prevails to this very day! What's new?<br /><br />Again John 17 and Passover service:<br /><br />23 "I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world MAY KNOW that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me."<br /><br />Yet the world still does not know the Father sent Jesus Christ. There are many so-called God(s) spoken about in this world...many so-called Christ's spoken about too...perhaps in reality just a whole bunch of antichrists. The Bible says there would be many, not just one antichrist. Even the churches refer to themselves as "the churches of god, the greater churches of god", etc. Where do they get that from? Or, are those words spoken so each organization can strive to justify their own existence?<br /><br />Again, John 17:<br /><br />24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.<br />25 O righteous Father, the world hath NOT KNOWN THEE: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.<br /><br />Anyway, Steve D, we can find all sorts of ideas and opinions regarding your question, but time will tell...<br /><br />John<br />Submitted <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-69756528835749921052016-04-25T10:39:29.414-07:002016-04-25T10:39:29.414-07:00Steve D asked: "...Is the church an organizat...Steve D asked: "...Is the church an organization or is it the body of Christ, made up of believers who are scattered throughout many organizations and in no organization at all?..."<br /><br />What do you think? If the answer is "perhaps not," and in reality it is not, then God is a liar. And if God is a liar, then the Bible is full of lies too and cannot be useful to us.<br /><br />You asked: Is the church an organization? I suspect not; however, its members may be organized. Regardless, the Church, the body of Christ is not something that has been completed yet. The Bible likens the Church to a Bride that is not yet completed, but someday it will be completed. In the meantime it is only composed of individual members scattered here and there. Members of God's Church, about 2,000 years ago began in the Jerusalem. Members were scattered then as they are today. Members scattered from the area of Judaea to Samaria and to the uttermost part of the earth.<br /><br />Revelation 2-3 says that there would be seven Churches, or congregations or eras. I know that once upon a time HWA taught these as eras over the last approximately 2,000 years. Many have given up on that thought. My wife claims we weren't taught this; however, she could go back and review the individual lessons of the old 50-something Bible Correspondence Course and find lots of information on the 7 eras. I still personally believe in the eras and that the 6th and 7th and possibly very few individuals of the 5th era exist in a scattered condition today with the Laodiceans being the predominant one today in existence. There will be no 8th era.<br /><br />I believe HWA was the servant for the Philadelphians (nothing to do with Gerald Flurry and his Philadelphians, although some may be embedded within his organization). I believe JWTkach Senior was the servant for the Laodiceans and that Joe had a different purpose to fulfill and part of that purpose was to end up with Laodiceans scattered all over the world...that Joe was their first and only leader. There will be no 8th leader. God had selected only 7 specific angels to be involved with those 7 eras to insure the characteristics mentioned in Revelation 2-3 would be as indicated. There is no 8th angel coming to fulfill another era, an 8th era. If the information indicated in Revelation 2-3 does not occur as God inspired, then God again comes across as a liar...and if a liar, then how could anything in the Bible be relied upon?<br /><br />There is no doubt that these leaders (HWA, JWT Senior, United Ass., Cogwa Ass., Living group, Philadelphia group, etc. xcogs) have given us some Milk (basic Biblical doctrines), lots and lots of Junk Food (e.g. dumb, stupid, garbage prophecies that the Bible does not teach at all - eg. Who isn’t still looking for 10 nations/kings to show up on the world scene? Even looking for Jesus Christ to reign on earth for 1,000 years, which is impossible if He is at the Father’s right hand until all enemies are subdued, put down, etc.)<br /><br />To be continued...<br /><br />John<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-5034544155330230622016-04-25T10:06:22.595-07:002016-04-25T10:06:22.595-07:00Heh! They probably have daemons in the operating ...Heh! They probably have daemons in the operating systems of their computers.....<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-43968545705959682432016-04-25T10:00:47.060-07:002016-04-25T10:00:47.060-07:00"Notice how Prince died on the Passover. Ther...<i>"Notice how Prince died on the Passover. There is typically some significant world event just prior to Passover or the feast of Tabernacles. This defies random probability and implies harassment from an external force. Hmmm."</i><br /><br />I'm assuming you mean a supernatural force.<br />Which one do you suggest?<br />One of the three Christian Gods?<br />Allah?<br /><br />Which one do you speak of and believe in? There are thousands of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-32208709495880869512016-04-25T09:01:55.611-07:002016-04-25T09:01:55.611-07:00"I will build my church and the gates of hell..."I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it because you won't be able to find it...ever"<br />🙈<br />DennisCDiehlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10417850852638492246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-83264776386264093732016-04-25T04:54:47.934-07:002016-04-25T04:54:47.934-07:00Anon April 24 write "God's Church is some...Anon April 24 write "God's Church is somewhere . . ." Perhaps not. Is the church an organization or is it the body of Christ, made up of believers who are scattered throughout many organizations and in no organization at all? Steve Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03186651595432665670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-87238122961282241792016-04-24T18:35:23.759-07:002016-04-24T18:35:23.759-07:00Is different from the Walt Disney executive mold n...Is different from the Walt Disney executive mold necessarily rebellious? How many of us would have like to died if we could only have been riding along in the back seat of James Dean's '49 Merc, or be on a run with Sonny Barger of the Hells Angels? Instead we were treated, courtesy of HWA to classical music and extremely conservative clothing styles, the king's English and Republican politics. The Universal Ambassador Personality did not allow one the freedom to enjoy a Grateful Dead concert at Winterland, or to attend the Winternational Drag Races in Pomona. Many gave up these perfectly legitimate pleasures because false prophecies, and fear of the Germans co-opted their lives, yet here we all are 40+ years after the fact, and it is now obvious that HWA and his minions did not know prophecy from a hole in the ground! Those who snuck or realized early and left seem to have come out ahead. How long are people going to spend their time in the same old rut, missing out on life, just because the so-called ministry chooses to retain a Victorian attitude?<br /><br />Obviously, one can go astray with hedonism, or by flagrantly breaking the law. You wouldn't want to have destroyed your mind with drugs at the GD concert, or to have committed crimes on the HA run, but there surely were a number of goodly experiences that many missed out on in the guise of "Mr. Armstrong says..."<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.com