tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post432825386332995862..comments2024-03-28T10:21:50.226-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Dave pack: In My Kingdom People Will Be Sent Back To Their Original Nation BoundariesNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-4894187045501185482016-11-18T08:37:02.998-08:002016-11-18T08:37:02.998-08:00Again, you can only guess, and then misread. Beca...Again, you can only guess, and then misread. Because of the herd ripping influences of the WCG earlier in my life, I've never again become comfortable with other than superficial relationships. The concepts of friendships and family were obliterated by HWA. I do get intimate with the machinery that is part of my career and hobbies and the computers which control them. The people who depend upon these add an interesting dimension to my life and work, but it's not as if I party with them. What relationships I do have with people are guided by the precepts in the Bible, not the HWA self-serving perversions of it.<br /><br />In the Kingdom, when our understandings are all corrected, and we are healed, and there are no toxic cults, the ability to have normal relationships will be restored. Until then, I get up every morning aspiring to be a blessing to the others with whom I come in contact, and to do no harm.<br /><br />You'd be amazed to see all of the high tech systems that I get to work with, and what they mean for peoples' businesses and careers. Unfortunately, if you knew a couple of brand names and their websites, and the state in which I live and work, it would take about two minutes to discover who I am, and how to make contact. Not going to open that door. This is all you get.<br /><br />BB<br />Byker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-4685306392040024402016-11-18T00:16:06.820-08:002016-11-18T00:16:06.820-08:00Are your software and firmware upgrades the produc...Are your software and firmware upgrades the produce of intelligent design (strenuous mental effort) or some evolutionary process? Common sense is that it's intelligent design. Can it be that BB cannot bare to depart from the warmth of the herd with its evolution and other group beliefs. Which is why Christ rips people away from the herd with His 'I set parents against their children and children against parents etc.'<br />Truth should come before people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-54225726534830569952016-11-17T16:17:50.635-08:002016-11-17T16:17:50.635-08:00All my machines have computers. Hundreds of them ...All my machines have computers. Hundreds of them and about ten different software packages. I'm thinking if you knew more about science, and God guiding His evolutionary process through His natural laws, maybe you'd understand. After all, I frequently need to upgrade the software and firmware packages in our equipment to give the machinery the latest capabilities as they are introduced.<br /><br />BB<br /><br />Byker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-14466937466337248952016-11-17T13:32:24.302-08:002016-11-17T13:32:24.302-08:00BB, it proves not evolution but rather Gods usual ...BB, it proves not evolution but rather Gods usual super duper genius design. Try looking at reality first hand rather than through some preconceived paradigm. Adam and Eve were both like a seed. Everything was already there for the creation of different nations. The seed bloomed, and presto, nations. Just like Christs mustard seed. If you were conversant with computer programming rather than relays, you would understand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-52200463025821766872016-11-17T09:26:55.738-08:002016-11-17T09:26:55.738-08:00Well, thank you, 9:00 AM. If that's the way G...Well, thank you, 9:00 AM. If that's the way God works, through the adaptation and genetic mutation of the human species to create races and nations, then I see we both agree that God uses those same evolutionary processes in the plant and animal kingdoms as the process by which He creates. Thank you for bringing that into the light of day! The idea that the races and nations had to have come from Adam and Eve actually proves evolution!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-4731557400196292432016-11-17T09:00:37.819-08:002016-11-17T09:00:37.819-08:00BB, so for the 'technical reasons' given (...BB, so for the 'technical reasons' given (a labyrinth I refuse to enter), the different nations could not have come from Adam and Eve. Yeap, God hit insurmountable technical barriers, preventing Him from doing so. A glance at what God has created, tells me otherwise. Try watching some David Attenborough nature programs.<br />As God puts it Himself 'Is anything too hard for God?'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-11602433739265226872016-11-17T08:57:37.429-08:002016-11-17T08:57:37.429-08:00So therefore intermarriage between the races is no...So therefore intermarriage between the races is not "man's stubborness", as HWA insisted, but a return to the original state, eh?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-63963868869790251172016-11-17T08:21:39.970-08:002016-11-17T08:21:39.970-08:00Intermarriage or interracial marriage works, while...Intermarriage or interracial marriage works, while "gay marriage" does <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfVcvyxLj-s" rel="nofollow">NOT!</a><br /><br />DBPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-3723833861772370112016-11-17T08:00:13.095-08:002016-11-17T08:00:13.095-08:00Those who were once in the Radio/Worldwide COG sur...Those who were once in the Radio/Worldwide COG sure have exhibited some odd views of religion and politics.<br /><br />Anon writes, "...neocon Soros..."? Hmmmmm, that's an odd one.<br /><br />Throw the monkey wrench of DNA evidence into the ideas of these kooks (BI'ers, Mormons, White Supremacists, etc etc), and the apologetics that emerge get quite creative!<br /><br />Their politics and religion are often intertwined, as in the cases of Armstrongism(and others espousing BI), Mormons and the Ku Klux Klan(and other White Supremacist groups). There are SO many more such groups, but most people here know these.<br /><br />If you think HWA was bad for all of his crazy Biblical interpretations, consider this: Joseph Smith, who founded the Mormons(LDS) concocted wild tales and even came up his own nutcase "Uber-Bible"(the Book of Mormon), which Mormons still believe in, as they come knocking on my door about 3 times each year when hoping to "bring me into their fold"<br />Understandably, like good little cult minions, they're trained to deflect questions and offer apologetics about things, like -<br /><br />- How DNA, archaeological, anthropological and linguistic evidence disproves Joseph Smith's "TRUTH" that Native Americans originated from ancient Israel.<br />- How the Book of Mormon was not an ancient record divinely imparted to him, as JS claimed, but based on what he'd read in an earlier book called View of the Hebrews, published only a few miles from where he lived.<br />- Why LDS 'secret temple rituals' (nearly identical to those practiced in Freemasonry) were introduced by Smith only two months after Smith had been initiated into Freemasonry.<br />- Why many of Joseph Smith's early revelations (originally purported to be ABSOLUTE TRUTH) were later republished in a form that differed from their earlier versions, giving more power and authority to Smith.<br />- Why have many Mormon historians been disfellowshipped by the church for publishing their findings on the truth of Mormon history.<br />- Why are so many Mormon teachings kept secret from potential converts? It's a lot like how the WCG cult ministers would approach potential new members. The old, "ready for the milk but not the meat" thing, because bringing a person in slowly and letting him swallow only a bit of poison at a time is often necessary in gaining cult converts. <br />- Why have so many Mormons (and their children) died because of belief in their practice of faith healing?<br />- Why is shunning of former members practiced- and shunning of former members even encouraged from elders from the authority of the pulpit- even though the LDS church claims they don't practice shunning?<br />- Why does the LDS 'like' DNA results when it identifies the relatives a person can then "pray into Heaven by proxy" (per the Mormon's strange insulting practice), and yet NOT 'like' the DNA results which show that Joseph Smith's whacko history of his fictitious Lamanites isn't real.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-14672118099022793512016-11-17T01:05:54.009-08:002016-11-17T01:05:54.009-08:007:04, I'm not the one who keeps making stupid ...7:04, I'm not the one who keeps making stupid statements. You've made it clear that you don't understand how dna works. Again, it is difficult to tell whether I'm conversing with one anonymous poster or several, but, here goes.<br /><br />If Adam and Eve's dna simultaneously carried all of the haplotypes for all of what we call races, then marriages amongst all of the distinct races which we have today would simply be gradually returning everyone to the state where everyone looked like Adam and Eve, and had all of the haplotypes. If Adam and Eve were actual people, and not metaphoric characters, they would be the first genetic specimens. As "originals" they would not have what we call a "gene pool". A gene pool develops through procreation over time, and descendents of a common ancestor all share markers which are traceable back to that ancestor. The problem is, what do you so with Neanderthal, an extinct earlier species of human, whose dna is still found in some humans today? Obviously, there was some intermarriage between Neanderthal and modern man.<br /><br />You really have to do some fancy footwork, not only to get around that science, but also to preserve the notion that a nation with German dna being predominant could possibly be considered Anglo Saxon, or Manassite.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-53668240139891957352016-11-16T19:04:18.688-08:002016-11-16T19:04:18.688-08:00BB asks "In Genesis 1:31, where were the diff...BB asks "In Genesis 1:31, where were the different races that were good?"<br />It was already in Adam and Eves DNA. <br />You know this, so why are you playing stupid?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-66194759349961409302016-11-16T14:38:17.705-08:002016-11-16T14:38:17.705-08:00"When you restore all things....show the worl..."When you restore all things....show the world there are national boundaries....God did not want His people sharing....get the other people out of here! This is My nation....” The Infallible Dave Pack<br /><br />[......a schreeching HALT!]<br />GOD:"Thanks for the idea, mere mortal! I have grown so frustrated over your ill-perceived petty little differences and your stubborness to get along with anybody including yourself that I AM going to do a do-over too!"<br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/embed/AJyMVNs0oh4" rel="nofollow">"It's the Grand Do-over"</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-11350246250521624362016-11-16T14:08:45.186-08:002016-11-16T14:08:45.186-08:00She says that because Mexico's population is 1...She says that because Mexico's population is 122 million, while the US' Hispanic population is 56 million. <br />Problem is, this country was not empty when Jamestown was established. Those of native descent were already here when the political lines were drawn. The difference between a Native American from southern Arizona and a native of Nogales, Mexico is a line on a map, they still can easily share a common ancestor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-25732341842227612592016-11-16T13:56:50.054-08:002016-11-16T13:56:50.054-08:00You wouldn't have an inciter if people were be...You wouldn't have an inciter if people were behaving towards each other to begin with. Your neocon Soros babble is an effect, not a cause.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-54007177428050766012016-11-16T13:16:28.005-08:002016-11-16T13:16:28.005-08:00Yes truly Kookie. Reminiscint of the Lebensborn Kl...Yes truly Kookie. Reminiscint of the Lebensborn Kliniken.<br /><br />I cannot see the importance of racial purity in light of the supposed destiny of mankind as spiritual beings between the stars?<br /><br />Perhaps the troll wishes to explain this limited thinking.<br /><br />ncknckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580008070423402328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-38189291919804175022016-11-16T13:12:55.087-08:002016-11-16T13:12:55.087-08:001:28 AM, man oh man! What you say doesn't squ...1:28 AM, man oh man! What you say doesn't square with either science, or the Bible!<br /><br />In Genesis 1:31, where were the different races that were good? If you believe his Herbal Excrescence, Adam and Eve were (ta dah!) white. Mankind was divvied up much later as a punishment for the Tower of Babel. <br /><br />Most of the splinters have taken their teachings in racial intermarriage from the books of Ezra and Nehemiah. Marriages were broken up not because of skin pigmentation, but because the Israelites had been led into idolatry from other ethnic groups' pagan religions. There was apprehension that intermarriage would have caused another exile and captivity in the future if Israelites married idolatrous pagans. <br /><br />Ephraim and Manasseh's Mommy walked like an Egyptian (thank you, Bangles!) because she was Egyptian! And Moses must have had a lot of soul, because his wife was black. If you read Jesus' genealogy, there was definitely some intermarriage.<br /><br />Hate to bust your racist bubble, but you cannot prove that intermarriage soley based on skin color is forbidden in the Bible.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-25570154222052086142016-11-16T12:39:27.409-08:002016-11-16T12:39:27.409-08:00Poor Dave. A white supremacist gets named as the t...Poor Dave. A white supremacist gets named as the top aide/right hand man in the White House, and Dave gets so excited because he thinks that means it's now acceptable to maybe finally attract some new followers by appealing to wild-eyed xenophobia. <br /><br />Sorry Dave, but segregation still isn't coming back, no one's building a racially pure fantasy land for you to preside over, and nobody is coming to magically bleach the non-aryan blood out of your mongrel DNA. <br /><br />Just stay inside your gated compound where you can be sheltered from all the scary types of "those people" you fancy yourself to be so set apart from. At least for a short while, until you inevitably go broke and it's foreclosed and renovated as a multi-ethnic strip club.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-81025902916343213352016-11-16T10:24:55.106-08:002016-11-16T10:24:55.106-08:00Perhaps the kookiest comment I've ever seen he...Perhaps the kookiest comment I've ever seen here-<br /><br />"When Christ returns and the nations are separated, this genetic diluting will be bred out of the population, just like with animal breeding. I assume that there will be a government panel to determine which group half breeds belong to."<br /><br />I wonder which group "half-breed-Herbie" will be assigned to belong to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-34983232259897897172016-11-16T09:20:16.112-08:002016-11-16T09:20:16.112-08:00Connie, you nailed it.
Still, a mission to Mars w...Connie, you nailed it.<br /><br />Still, a mission to Mars would be one way....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-20864189260526420212016-11-16T07:11:32.227-08:002016-11-16T07:11:32.227-08:00Actually, to me, this is perhaps one stance that I...Actually, to me, this is perhaps one stance that I can agree with. Multiculturalism has not worked. The proof of this can be clearly seen with what is happening in Europe and even the U.S. to a degree.<br /><br />Kind always feels more comfortable with others of the same kind. Even nature shows this. Does this mean that it is OK to disrespect other tribes ( I hate the term 'race' as there is only one race)? No. we ought to treat others as we would like to be treated.<br /><br />As it now stands, we can see how multiculturalism gives way to such people like George Soros (evil to the bone), to incite chaos and hate amongst the tribes. Sweetblood777https://www.blogger.com/profile/11000268749016977800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-49657312620470169452016-11-16T01:28:30.425-08:002016-11-16T01:28:30.425-08:00Lets see, when God created the earth and everythin...Lets see, when God created the earth and everything on it, including the races, He said:<br /><br />Genesis_1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. <br /><br />Now BB doesn't agree that the races are 'very good.' Now who should I believe, God or BB. Hmm, that's a hard one. I need time out to think about this.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-89230195179969936692016-11-16T00:44:55.686-08:002016-11-16T00:44:55.686-08:00RSK, when Christ returns and the nations are separ...RSK, when Christ returns and the nations are separated, this genetic diluting will be bred out of the population, just like with animal breeding. I assume that there will be a government panel to determine which group half breeds belong to.<br />God created the nations, yet man with his anti God attitudes, has tried to create one race through inter racial marriages. Christ on His return will put an end to this abomination.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-77710838862372736982016-11-15T23:07:20.058-08:002016-11-15T23:07:20.058-08:00When my son was very young, his kindergarten teach...When my son was very young, his kindergarten teacher in the daycare center which he attended was an exemplary teacher who was very much into her students, and also had a hobby as an actress, which she drew upon for inspiration in many ways for her career. She knew much about life, and about numerous aspects of child development. One of the things she shared with me was that if you watch pre-schoolers, you gain information as to how children act naturally, largely before adults get to overwrite their personalities with their own games and prejudices. We discussed, at length, race and racism. She pointed out that in class and at play, these young kids are very inclusive with one another, freely associating with other children who are to all appearances different from themselves, without any consciousness that they should see this as wrong, or feel guilty or awkward about it. At that stage, they are just kids; playmates. Unfortunately in some cases, as they age, they are exposed to the attitudes of some of the adults in their lives, and end up adopting them, and incorporating them into the ways in which they view and treat others. <br /><br />It would appear that racism is not a natural form of behavior amongst children not so far removed from the tabula rasa condition in which they are born. It is a bad cycle, taught, learned, practiced, and perpetuated. Whether from a mean-spirited point of origin, or a misguided understanding of scripture, Armstrongism aids and abets racist attitudes. It also provides bias confirmation for those who had been infected with it earlier in life prior to becoming members. A funny thing happens with people. People who like one another, tend to pick up some of each others' nuances and mannerisms. They retain their own personalities, but end up becoming less different over time. This also happens in group settings when one culture is introduced into another culture. There are cross-influences, promoting better understanding. Unfortunately, there are those who deliberately block out natural blending, setting up walls against people who are different from themselves. The problem is, if you are part of a group that does this with other groups, it becomes a behavior pattern which can't be checked at the door. It also infects behavior amongst individuals within one's own group, even though being part of that group is supposed to be some sort of seal of approval. <br /><br />There is a process which allow oil and water to blend. It is called emulsion, or emulsification. One would think that a church which was truly of God would be anxious to promote true equality amongst all of God's children, by becoming an emulsifying agent. Instead, we get the same old "Send em' back to Africa" routine, even though modern genetic science has proven that there is no genetic basis for race. What is it with Armstrongism pretending to be ignorant of readily available genetic research in order to support their more questionable doctrines?<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-1496185292496086282016-11-15T21:48:50.750-08:002016-11-15T21:48:50.750-08:00According to Ann Culter, half of all Mexicans live...According to Ann Culter, half of all Mexicans live in America. Trump is right in putting up his wall. When Christ returns, all the Mexicans will be sent back to Mexico. God did in fact give America to the lilly white Anglos-Saxons. All the rest will be sent back. It is so heart warming thinking about it. Racial problems will be a thing of the past, no more micro transgressions. It will be heaven on earth. The rest can eat cake, and/or 'frankly my dear, I don't give damn' about your protests.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-51830381782527747742016-11-15T21:08:09.701-08:002016-11-15T21:08:09.701-08:00Thank God I only had to contend with the old WWCOG...Thank God I only had to contend with the old WWCOG and just 3 years "after the baton was passed." U feel sorry for those in the clutches of megalomaniac Dave :( He is really beyond scary!Arnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11534713948983999720noreply@blogger.com