tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post5153236622589159879..comments2024-03-29T06:42:44.507-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Dave Pack: "Freedom of the Press Is Not God's Way"NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13272358773688658682012-01-16T08:55:53.537-08:002012-01-16T08:55:53.537-08:00James, methinks Mr. Pack would answer yes - at lea...James, methinks Mr. Pack would answer yes - at least to the joining of church and state. He'd say that's what the Kingdom of God will be.<br /><br />John, methinks North Korea would be a better comparison. A place where important news is hidden for three days, until everything is ready. (Which, come to think of it, is what WCG did with the news media announcement of Mr. Tkach Sr.'s death.)<br /><br />A place where everyone is apparently coached in how to react - and punished if they don't do it well enough.Richardhttp://ontheflop.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-53324298328805868142012-01-15T11:59:00.480-08:002012-01-15T11:59:00.480-08:00Pack attacks the U.S. Constitution. Does he hates ...Pack attacks the U.S. Constitution. Does he hates it and wishes that it could be replaced?<br /><br />The big question is: Would he support the joining of church and state in order to create a fascist regime in which you dear reader have no say?<br /><br />Wrapped in a flag and carrying a bible or wrapped in the banner of Islam and carrying a koran. What is the difference?<br /><br />An American Taliban.Jameshttp://hwarmstrong.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-24590320269026568902012-01-15T04:04:39.863-08:002012-01-15T04:04:39.863-08:00If it is so true that "...the principle of &#...If it is so true that "...the principle of 'freedom of the press'...has never been <i>God's</i> way" as Pack so clearly puts it then he should be immediately sent straight to Iran or other Islamic theocracy that believes not unlike he does! Which "God" is he even referring to in this anti-American, anti-Liberterianism and even anti-Christian assertion?! Such an offensive statement as this reflects the utter ignorance of the man who evidently deems himself wiser than the God-given minds that were America's Founding Fathers, most if not all of whom were Christians, knew their Bibles inside and out and would be turning in their graves to hear such "Popish," truly abhorrent remarks in the name of God! I'm sorry, but in my view his banal assertion is no different to the "fifth column" of Islamists using our God-given and blood-bought freedoms to their advantage and treasonously call for the destruction of America and Western civilization!Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-76061255123286569162012-01-14T11:51:02.180-08:002012-01-14T11:51:02.180-08:00Well, there is such a thing as "accountabilit...Well, there is such a thing as "accountability". I suppose that these cultmeisters believe that accountability is not God's way, either.<br /><br />There are those who believe that the USA was founded as a Christian nation, in covenant with God, a high percentage of the founding fathers actually being Christian theologians. Word has it that the Constitution and Bill of Rights were patterned after, and based on, principles directly taken from the Bible, or the Magna Carta, a document which also has precepts similar to Biblical ones. COGdom has used the "sabbath criterion" to invalidate the USA as ever having been a "true" Christian nation, the founding fathers not having been aware of or practiced all the Armstrong heresies.<br /><br />There was a time when I considered those in Armstrongism to simply be "Jewish Christians", or "Ebionite Christians", and attempted, in my own heart, to treat them in accordance with the precepts of unity and conscience outlined by St. Paul. In Paul's times, the Jews in general, and the Jewish Christians were being singled out for horrible persecution. They scattered into the diaspora following the martyrdom of Stephen, and at various times were expelled from Rome. Paul wanted to be sure that they were recognized as bonifide Christians, and treated fairly by the Gentile Christians. Conscience, and tolerance towards the ways in which others acted according to their own consciences was considered to be the key factor.<br /><br />What we see happening today, unfortunately, goes way beyond this. The Judaizer Pharisees in most of the ACOGs are the intolerant ones. It would be horrifying to witness what might happen amongst them were we not protected by a strong US government, wonderful founding documents, and a fairly Godly form of government! One thinks of the horrors the African warlords regularly inflict on those lacking Godly government in Somali and similar areas of Africa.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-25242659547915264692012-01-14T11:38:34.348-08:002012-01-14T11:38:34.348-08:00Dave Pack doesn't hate the freedom of the pres...Dave Pack doesn't hate the freedom of the press, he hates freedom. All tyrants do. But among the first things a successful tyrant must do is take control of the dissemination of information, to silence the opposition while transforming what remains into vehicles for propaganda.<br /><br />Dave Pack hates the marketplace of ideas because he doesn't have a monopoly over it. He can't stand that there are some people in that marketplace who are free to tell the truth about him. Oh my! Only satanic forces would tell that truth!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-5747959755812351062012-01-14T07:09:24.582-08:002012-01-14T07:09:24.582-08:00Yes, we should leave it to David Pack to do Satan&...Yes, we should leave it to David Pack to do Satan's work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-69496481937606016402012-01-14T06:57:25.266-08:002012-01-14T06:57:25.266-08:00Yeah, blame freedom of the press for finally revea...Yeah, blame freedom of the press for finally revealing your little cult is ungodly, headed by a false prophet.<br /><br />Admit that British Israelism is a crock, that you don't come from a long line of Sabbath keeping Christians and that you are a liar who keeps taking the money.<br /><br />Show us some fruit which is not that constant works of the flesh you give us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-61110361368792860182012-01-14T06:07:08.395-08:002012-01-14T06:07:08.395-08:00Well M.T.Pages, it's like this. God gets spe...Well M.T.Pages, it's like this. God gets special consideration to use the forbidden Freedom of the Press. Just as Mr. Pack can forbid the Internet to members and teens except for himself as he has a legitimate use for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-34152555407972863732012-01-14T06:05:14.062-08:002012-01-14T06:05:14.062-08:00Gosh, if it wasn't for Freedom of the Press, G...Gosh, if it wasn't for Freedom of the Press, God would never have gotten his book published. <br /><br />M.T.PagesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-48591133358010412032012-01-14T04:06:09.047-08:002012-01-14T04:06:09.047-08:00Dave notes: "Obviously, these “journalists” a...Dave notes: "Obviously, these “journalists” are not dirtmongers in their own eyes"<br /><br />Obviously these ministers are not mistaken and mere Bible readers in their own eyes.<br /><br />M.T.BookletsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com