tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post5177734659948040882..comments2024-03-28T08:37:16.470-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Gerald Weston tells sleepy LCG Members to WAKE UP!NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-68310921888495680802019-10-12T10:50:36.892-07:002019-10-12T10:50:36.892-07:00The last day, that great day of the feast when Jes...The last day, that great day of the feast when Jesus cried aloud, was the seventh day, not the eighth as the WCG ignorantly taught. That was the day when living water will be poured out for all who thirst, as Jesus said. The eighth day is when there will be no more flesh. The eighth day pictures eternity.<br /><br />Kevin aka kmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-51379214220367973962019-10-12T10:31:11.188-07:002019-10-12T10:31:11.188-07:00KM said:
Hey Gerald, have you ever considered th...KM said: <br /><br />Hey Gerald, have you ever considered the possibility (fact) that the lazy 5 virgins were without oil in their lamp because they spiritually relied on a church organization rather than relying on God, and you are guilty of pushing this mindset? A Christian fills their lamp by having a close "personal" relationship with God, not by being an acog member.<br /><br />Gerald, you are the one who needs to wake up! Your job is your idol, it's sad.<br /><br />Well said KM. Just by reading this little snippet from Mr. Weston you can see why many who follow him are in danger of spiritual starvation.<br /><br />Did anyone catch this woeful statement by Mr. Weston? "While we cannot work our way into the Kingdom of God, let us not forget another admonition of the Apostle Paul: “Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling”.<br /><br />The parable of the virgins and the following parable of the talents is nothing but about works getting ones self into the kingdom. Salvation is a gift period. The admonition from Paul is to work out not losing what is already an earnest in an individual Christian and not putting Christ's sacrifice unto an open shame.<br /><br />Black and white reading of scripture is a death kneel to spiritual enlightenment. Coming from a leader of a church with the name "living" in it is appalling.<br /><br /><br /><br />What About The Truthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-3522412157847070222019-10-12T05:39:04.632-07:002019-10-12T05:39:04.632-07:00I agree with you km, I think the COGs all lost the...I agree with you km, I think the COGs all lost their way a little when the holy day was called "the Last Great Day" instead of how it is termed in the Bible. But positively, from my ucg experience, the 8th day and beyond is being more and more discussed/emphasised. And when you look into the symbolism of "8" in the bible, there's so much to discuss!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-26798192243103062052019-10-12T00:58:54.135-07:002019-10-12T00:58:54.135-07:003:31 wrote: “Brace yourself to being a janitor or ...3:31 wrote: “Brace yourself to being a janitor or shoeshine boy in the next life.”<br /><br />Like another said elsewhere—and I paraphrase—I’d rather be a janitor in God’s heavenly kingdom if it means seeing all the beautiful people I loved and cared for whom God blessed me to grace my sod of a life or like David wrote in Psalm 84:10 “I had rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God, than to dwell in the tents of wickedness.” Amen! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-7402348418819183702019-10-11T15:54:27.007-07:002019-10-11T15:54:27.007-07:004:52 So how do you deal with the parable of the ta...4:52 So how do you deal with the parable of the talents?<br /><br />One thing that Armstrongism never really dealt with is eternity. Everything revolved around the millennium. Even the feast of tabernacles to most Armstrongists only pictures the millennium. That's partly why I dislike going to most acogs for the fot, that's all they preach on. The millennium is a very small part of God's plan for mankind.<br /><br />They have their festival meanings all in a box and tied up with a bow and you best not suggest a different understanding.<br /><br />Whether the creation of Adam actually happened 6,000 years ago or not the bible still uses seven symbolically, so the seven days of tabernacles would picture mankind in physical bodies/tabernacles for 7,000 years, with the final seventh day being the millennium. On the eighth day no one is in a tabernacle. So rather than the eighth day picturing the Great White Throne Judgement it would more logically picture eternity when God's plan has finished.<br /><br />The ruling over five cities or ten cities is most likely for the millennium, our roles in eternity are totally unknown.<br /><br />kmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-44094697689783451602019-10-11T13:48:53.595-07:002019-10-11T13:48:53.595-07:0010.35 AM
I'm glad you asked. 4.52 AM shows a l...10.35 AM<br />I'm glad you asked. 4.52 AM shows a lack of respect for reality by dismissing the parts of the bible he doesn't agree with, with the label 'Armstrong theology.' The only alternative to 4.52 AMs 'works based approach' is some form of collectivism. Marxism, Marxism-Leninism, Communism, Stalinism, only differ in detail, not in fundamentals. I believe Friedrich Hayeks 'The road to Serfdom' nailed this religion, with its various 'denominations.'<br />4.52AMs post smells of egalitarianism, so I doubt that he subscribes to the Catholic "degrees of glory" in the kingdomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-6487733576826132072019-10-11T10:35:03.123-07:002019-10-11T10:35:03.123-07:009:38AM is apparently one of those badly educated A...9:38AM is apparently one of those badly educated Americans who couldn't explain the difference between Marxism, Marxism-Leninism, and communism, even if his life depended on it. As I read it, 4:52AM is describing something more like the traditional Roman Catholic idea of heaven, in which there are varying degrees of glory but every individual soul is fully satisfied in his level of glory, not regretful or envious of others' glory. Fantasy, perhaps, but I would love to learn how 9:38AM draws an analogy to Marxism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-31100288392688435762019-10-11T09:38:15.929-07:002019-10-11T09:38:15.929-07:004.52 AM
Genuine heaven? So now you want Marxism ap...4.52 AM<br />Genuine heaven? So now you want Marxism applied to heaven as well. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-68139424948906091462019-10-11T04:52:26.924-07:002019-10-11T04:52:26.924-07:003:31 AM wrote:
Brace yourself to being a janitor ...3:31 AM wrote:<br /><br /><i>Brace yourself to being a janitor or shoeshine boy in the next life.</i><br /><br />This is one of the things that bothered me the most about Armstrong theology. Because of its works-based approach to your heavenly reward, the implication was that many would be dissatisfied with their place in the God Family, because they were "only" doorkeepers while other God-beings (who had attended more Spokesman Club meetings and mowed more ministerial lawns, etc.) would be rulers over ten cities.<br /><br />An eternity of regret and disappointment sounds a lot like Hell to me. Yet, that's what Armstrong promises for most people; an eternity spent wishing that they had worked harder on Earth to qualify for a better eternity.<br /><br />In any genuine heaven, occupants would not need to "brace themselves" for their role. As such, I must dismiss the ACOG heaven as nothing more than the Hell to which HWA was consigned upon death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-88596981251577658232019-10-11T02:34:03.440-07:002019-10-11T02:34:03.440-07:004.16 PM
The Forbes article claims that it's 2 ...4.16 PM<br />The Forbes article claims that it's 2 trillion, and the Wikipedia article writes that it's "a suggested 2 trillion or more."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-59179917584144322382019-10-10T16:16:31.861-07:002019-10-10T16:16:31.861-07:00Anonymous said " Are you aware that their are...Anonymous said " Are you aware that their are 200 billion galaxies out there?"<br /><br />As of 2019 the estimate is 10 TrillionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-57003340659591666732019-10-10T03:31:09.726-07:002019-10-10T03:31:09.726-07:0010.07 PM
Fictional carrot? On the contrary. The un...10.07 PM<br />Fictional carrot? On the contrary. The universe is being carved up and competed for. While you are living in a fictional world of unreality, I'm grabbing as many galaxies as I can. They'II be mine, mine, all mine. Are you aware that their are 200 billion galaxies out there?<br />Brace yourself to being a janitor or shoeshine boy in the next life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-90664073822017608612019-10-10T02:06:44.238-07:002019-10-10T02:06:44.238-07:00I am a FORMER LCG member that woke up!
Members wak...I am a FORMER LCG member that woke up!<br />Members waking up may not be a good thing for you Gerald.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-16377905341834119162019-10-10T02:05:37.072-07:002019-10-10T02:05:37.072-07:00Hey Gerald, have you ever considered the possibili...Hey Gerald, have you ever considered the possibility (fact) that the lazy 5 virgins were without oil in their lamp because they spiritually relied on a church organization rather than relying on God, and you are guilty of pushing this mindset? A Christian fills their lamp by having a close "personal" relationship with God, not by being an acog member.<br /><br />Gerald, you are the one who needs to wake up! Your job is your idol, it's sad.<br /><br />km<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-22480042264784098412019-10-10T01:35:03.491-07:002019-10-10T01:35:03.491-07:00ASB has a point. The is no greater power than the ...ASB has a point. The is no greater power than the power of prayer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-16366654547011950292019-10-09T22:07:42.909-07:002019-10-09T22:07:42.909-07:00Ah, the fictional carrot that Christians have been...Ah, the fictional carrot that Christians have been plodding along after for two millennia now. It does keep the money pouring in though.Al Dexternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-67040193528898961222019-10-09T18:54:34.384-07:002019-10-09T18:54:34.384-07:00The end is nigh and people need to wake up!
ASB Co...The end is nigh and people need to wake up!<br />ASB Comment: While this is a biblical reminder to all Christians this post seems to point to a ministry that is as follows. LCG members become complacent because of the endless appalling things they see out of LCG leaders. Whats the point in trying when the boyish Charlotte play their own game while member suffer? truth <br /> Even if these are true a Christian that is truly connected with God would have no excuse to slack off their relationship with God through Jesus Christ. A true Christian is powered by the Holy Spirit to live a life that reflects the Glory of God the Father through His Son Jesus the Christ. If they are praying and studying the truth of the written Word of God they will be able to grow in the Faith needed to maintain the Hope God has promised. It may be that those who are focused on the flaws there could take them to God in their prayers. This is just my thoughts about the power of God but it is something to think about! ASB<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-60772216301327395982019-10-09T17:26:29.210-07:002019-10-09T17:26:29.210-07:00Christ alluded to the fact that there would be a n...Christ alluded to the fact that there would be a notion of a delay in His Return:<br /><br />"But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken" Luke 12:45<br /><br />c f ben yochanan <br />please stop censoring me...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-68958540793216308302019-10-09T15:56:11.926-07:002019-10-09T15:56:11.926-07:00Enough already. Everything in the new testament i...Enough already. Everything in the new testament is based on the mystery religions. Every event in the story of the life of Jesus was taken from the mystery religions. It was all made up. Pure fiction. <br /> <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-34815666288124955962019-10-09T14:57:31.480-07:002019-10-09T14:57:31.480-07:00"You may not be caught up in “revelry and dru..."You may not be caught up in “revelry and drunkenness,” “lewdness and lust,” or “strife and envy,” but there is no room for complacency, either. Being overconfident is also a sign of spiritual complacency and slumber. “Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall”"<br /><br />Classic GEW double-speak. How is overconfidence a sign of complacency if you are not caught up in revelry and drunkenness, lewdness and lust, strife and envy?! The ill-logic is stunning. I don't know who is better at it, Weston or Pack? Maybe put a poll?Stoned Stephen Societyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07095188859318813640noreply@blogger.com