tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post5896458308074956434..comments2024-03-28T01:47:50.775-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: God's Limit's Will Be Sorely Tested If You Buy Lunch On Pentecost!NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-56647490777476082232016-06-09T19:48:05.631-07:002016-06-09T19:48:05.631-07:00WHOOPS!
WHOOPS!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-29115989029560234372016-06-09T19:44:52.602-07:002016-06-09T19:44:52.602-07:00"..it is God who binds the couple together, n..."..it is God who binds the couple together, not some man!"<br /><br />Well, we don't know for sure that God started https://www.christianmingle.com/<br />But I do firmly believe that the Universe gave us the tools to do our binding. <br /><br />DBPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-59908592266503715172016-06-08T20:12:52.651-07:002016-06-08T20:12:52.651-07:00on June 8, 2016 at 4:17 PM
DBP wrote:-
"Keep...on June 8, 2016 at 4:17 PM<br />DBP wrote:-<br /><br />"Keep what works, discard what doesn't"<br /><br />A GREAT philosophy!<br /><br />also:<br />"Envy will prevent you from seeing what is actually there."<br /><br />That's a good one, I like it.<br /><br />cheers<br />ralph.fRalphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-18069425181541063122016-06-08T16:17:42.527-07:002016-06-08T16:17:42.527-07:00An authority desires to stay authoritive, obviousl...An authority desires to stay authoritive, obviously. <br />It's KNOT about authority, but learning "Keep what works, discard what doesn't"<br />Envy will prevent you from seeing what is actually there. <br /><br />DBP<br /><br />ps: puns don't teach, they over-reach Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-29680692092069844852016-06-08T11:26:02.213-07:002016-06-08T11:26:02.213-07:00Ah yes,
I didn't see my expose on the network...Ah yes,<br /><br />I didn't see my expose on the networking quality of science at first.<br /><br />nckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-48972808382944311792016-06-08T11:09:10.000-07:002016-06-08T11:09:10.000-07:00Everything that came through today is posted.Everything that came through today is posted.NO2HWAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-47570698335063763362016-06-08T10:36:43.908-07:002016-06-08T10:36:43.908-07:00Dang. my second posting is meaningless without the...Dang. my second posting is meaningless without the first!<br /><br />nckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-76822716395535521362016-06-08T09:50:02.083-07:002016-06-08T09:50:02.083-07:00In sociology, politics or economics sometimes the ...In sociology, politics or economics sometimes the number of believers is more important than the authorities backing up the theory in the network.<br /><br />For instance if millions of people "believe" the tsarist family are not mythical but just a bunch or usurpers. They become powerless and quite easy to remove.<br /><br />If however the same amount of people gather in Davos and they seem to have concluded that oil will become a stranded asset and solar energy is the right thing to do and millions of people are gathering around that idea.<br /><br />Than I say you better short on oil majors and start investing in batteries. <br /><br />But it doesn't mean that coal doesn't burn very well. It's just that authorities have found another authoritive theory to propell the world forward.<br /><br />nck<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-36312349722859407832016-06-08T09:21:10.835-07:002016-06-08T09:21:10.835-07:00Science is also about authority.
I read.
"in...Science is also about authority.<br /><br />I read.<br />"independent and authoritative"<br /><br />A theory becomes authoritative only when it stops being independent. Than it is only an opinion. Science is like a building with the current leading theory being backed up by the most and most authoritative institutions, theories and persons.<br /><br />It works exactly as the google algorythm. There are billions of websites. Google ranks those upon the requested search in order of "importance". That is websites with the most or most authoritative links attached to it.<br /><br />So if my opinion is backed up by Harvard or Stanford. That scores more points than if my opinion is backed up by a thousand other people with a lesser score on opinions.<br />That is because Harvard and Stanford are by itself linked to hundreds of thousands other authoritative opinions. <br /><br />It is possible that a person with only 2 non authoritative links is actually telling the truth as it is. Especially after an initial find of new scientific discovery. In order for that opinion to be sustained it is important that that person finds backing by either billions of people or some hundred of our best and brightest institutions or a mix if you want to make money.<br /><br />nck<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-86577336851678151692016-06-08T04:57:52.167-07:002016-06-08T04:57:52.167-07:00It can be foolish for us to try and be so resolute...It can be foolish for us to try and be so resolute in our absolutes. There will always be another side to the story that we don't know about, yet. <br /><br />You said:"...however I have not heard of science PROBING the existence of "intelligent design..."<br /><br />Now, that can be a tough one to explain. We are both using the fruits of science to talk about things. If I was overly concerned or obsessed with the silly notion that Al Gore created the internet and that you must believe that before we can continue to talk or listen to each other, that would be foolish, right? The scientific method works so much better, because it focuses on the ways and means on how things actually work and that it can be repeatable. Through experimentation, Nature will give us feedback that can prove one theory is more valid than another. I think that proves our intelligence down here on the third rock going around an average star that is adrift in a galaxy of billions! But most religions are obsessed about authority and NOT knowledge. The ways and means and the science of how we humans got here is complicated, for sure. It just seems to me that some are putting the cart before the horse. <br />I am agnostic, by the way.<br /><br />"I don't get your drift. I simply copied the heading of his article."<br />You said:"What's more he backs it up with independent and authoritative publishings."<br /><br />I didn't reference my response appropiately, sorry about that.<br />I watched some of it. I bookmarked it, I like Ben Stein. "Bueler,...Bueler...." <br /><br />DBPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-72192596982253014122016-06-07T22:25:38.674-07:002016-06-07T22:25:38.674-07:00on June 7, 2016 at 5:51 PM
DBP wrote:-
"Scie...on June 7, 2016 at 5:51 PM<br />DBP wrote:-<br /><br />"Science does not prove anything, it can only PROBE."<br /><br />I guess that could be a debatable point I sense that science can prove some matters, however I have not heard of science PROBING the existence of "intelligent design", that of a creator God. Hence Ben Stein's movie "Expelled-No Intelligence Allowed",<br /><br />also:<br />"So, are you saying that Bob is now using the evidence and opinions of non-religous men to back up his premise?"<br /><br />I don't get your drift. I simply copied the heading of his article. A heading that was obtained from 'external' sources'. Puts me in mind of that old saying "you can never trust a known liar, for you don't know when they are telling the truth".<br />Like, can you trust today's weather forecast? Sometimes they get it right and sometimes not. Best to exercise self control, hope for the best and prepare for the worst. LOL<br /><br />also:<br />“Science is not about control."<br /><br />Have you watched the Ben Stein movie? If you have the qualifications and are seeking employment at some academic institute, beware not to mention "Intelligent Design" or you'll be controlled right out the door through which you entered.<br /><br />cheers<br />ralph.fRalphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13095340419667047822016-06-07T17:51:38.668-07:002016-06-07T17:51:38.668-07:00Ralph said:"‘Science’ has concluded that 1/2 ...Ralph said:"‘Science’ has concluded that 1/2 of what is called science is probably false."<br /><br />Science does not prove anything, it can only PROBE. <br />"Science, like art, religion, commerce, warfare, and even sleep, is based on presuppositions. It differs, however from most other branches of human activity in that not only are the pathways of scientific thought determined by the presuppositions of the scientists but their goals are the testing and revision of old presuppositions and the creation of new." -Gregory Bateson<br /><br />Ralph said:"What's more he backs it up with independent and authoritative publishings."<br /><br />So, are you saying that Bob is now using the evidence and opinions of non-religous men to back up his premise? <br />It's KNOT about authority! Paradoxes can be resolved with paradigms. Our experience of a paradox happens when we are ignorant of the information that we would need to resolve it. <br /><br />“Science is not about control. It is about cultivating a perpetual condition of wonder in the face of something that forever grows one step richer and subtler than our latest theory about it. It is about reverence, not mastery.” -Richard Power<br /><br />DBPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-52308486491597123472016-06-07T06:13:39.609-07:002016-06-07T06:13:39.609-07:00‘Science’ has concluded that 1/2 of what is called...<b>‘Science’ has concluded that 1/2 of what is called science is probably false.</b><br /><br />Bob Thiel has a current interesting post on his Blog on the topic of science. What's more he backs it up with independent and authoritative publishings.<br /><br />In addition to that, Ben Stein's movie "Expelled - No Intelligence Allowed" is now shown in full on You Tube.<br /><br />cheers<br />ralph.fRalphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-61703677200115468472016-06-06T20:52:50.772-07:002016-06-06T20:52:50.772-07:00"Now that they have the truth, let's conf..."Now that they have the truth, let's confuse them with science."<br /><br />Science, done right, leads to less confusion. We are using the fruits of science right now!<br />4X LOL! ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-20285209158811021802016-06-06T20:50:51.637-07:002016-06-06T20:50:51.637-07:00"The more I study religions the more I am con..."The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself." Sir Richard Francis Burton<br />"No nature except an extraordinary one could ever easily formulate a theory." PLATO<br /><br />It has always puzzled me that so many religious people have taken it for granted that God favors those who believe in him. Isn't it possible that the actual God is a scientific God who has little patience with beliefs founded on faith rather than evidence?<br /><br />There is this much connection certainly between scientific truth, on the one hand, and beauty and morality, on the other: that if a man entertain false opinions regarding his own nature, he will be led thereby to courses of action which will be in some profound sense immoral or ugly. The G.A.O.T.U.[Grand Architect Of The Universe] or the Laws of Nature[whatever they may be] will be the final judge of us all. I think we can both agree to that?<br /><br />DBPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-17767581343975995812016-06-06T15:15:23.179-07:002016-06-06T15:15:23.179-07:00on June 6, 2016 at 7:01 AM
DBP wrote:-
"I wo...on June 6, 2016 at 7:01 AM<br />DBP wrote:-<br /><br />"I wonder if we can successfully apply the scientific method to human nature and morality?"<br /><br />Ah, Science! That wonderful new god. Did you know there is a new quote doing the rounds? It is this:- "Now that they have the truth, let's confuse them with science."<br /> 2xLOL<br /><br />cheers<br />ralph.fRalphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-43436388927736441992016-06-06T15:08:30.459-07:002016-06-06T15:08:30.459-07:00on June 5, 2016 at 10:51 PM
Anonymous wrote:-
&qu...on June 5, 2016 at 10:51 PM<br />Anonymous wrote:-<br /><br />"I'm not aware of any passage that says Jesus picked any grain....."<br /><br />Quite so. Scripture says it was <b>His disciples who "plucked the ears of corn"</b> as in:-<br />"Mat 12:1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and <b>his disciples were an hungred,</b> and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat."<br /><i>(bolding mine)</i><br /><br />cheers<br />ralph.fRalphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13674487188400860082016-06-06T15:01:09.226-07:002016-06-06T15:01:09.226-07:00The term "Son of Man' is shown many times...The term "Son of Man' is shown many times in the AKJ. I haven't yet found an instance where it refers to an ordinary man.<br /><br />cheers<br />ralph.fRalphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-87410839047485065242016-06-06T11:50:12.330-07:002016-06-06T11:50:12.330-07:00DBP, of course it's a manmade law. They all a...DBP, of course it's a manmade law. They all are and most of them precede the decalogue by millennia. Most christians switched it to Sunday while the Muslims switched it to Friday. I rest when I need to, which is a lot more frequently than once a week these days. Allen C. DexterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-16743158853894569492016-06-06T09:19:38.948-07:002016-06-06T09:19:38.948-07:00Anonymous @ June 5, 2016 at 9:22 AM said...
"... Anonymous @ June 5, 2016 at 9:22 AM said...<br /><br />"Well, if you worship HWA, then go ahead.....but if you claim to worship God, you had better do as He said....God can look down and see who is worshiping Him, and who is worshiping a man. Conducting business, buying food or wares, etc. on Sabbaths and Holy Days, is clearly prohibited by God."<br /><br />But anon, what if I don't believe in Gosh or his son Jeepers?<br /><br />And if I buy a bagel on Saturday, can there be problems with that? Even if it's from a Jewish deli run by my friend Shlomo Neuberger?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-63036495782673371072016-06-06T07:01:57.758-07:002016-06-06T07:01:57.758-07:00Allen C. Dexter, your experience shows to me that ...Allen C. Dexter, your experience shows to me that the sabbath is a man-made law that is used like a litmus test to have everyone stay in the same pend. Even though it is the easiest law to keep, they like to make it the most important. "It's a sign or mark of God's true church!" Well, anybody can keep the sabbath, pedophiles can keep the sabbath too, does that make them one of God's elect?<br /><br />It would be more productive for us if we choose to discover and learn the Laws that nobody can ever break. I wonder if we can successfully apply the <a href="http://tetrahedral.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/carl-sagans-new-way-to-think-about.html" rel="nofollow">scientific method</a> to human nature and morality?<br /><br />DBPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-46015856538056071652016-06-06T05:29:11.576-07:002016-06-06T05:29:11.576-07:00"The deli section has [food that is] easily c..."The deli section has [food that is] easily consumed."<br /><br />Just what are foods that are "easily consumed", as opposed to foods that are NOT "easily consumed"?<br /><br />"The produce section has lettuce, cucumbers, and tomatoes for those who like to decorate their sandwiches or salads with such."<br /><br />WHAT?!<br />This idea is OF SATAN!<br />"Decorated sandwiches" are a tool of Satan the Devil to DISTRACT God's true CHOSEN ONES from the GLORY of GOD, and interest them in the GLORY of SANDWICHES, instead!<br /><br />There are MANY DISTRACTIONS on the ROAD TO RIGHTEOUSNESS while driving 50-150 miles behind some smog belching truck for a combined church service.<br /><br />MANY people have gone to the LAKE of FIRE when their cars crashed in fiery blazes because the driver choked on a satanic decorated sandwich, while following too close to a truck and LUSTING after the chrome nekked ladies on the truck's mudflaps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-30216906843341145232016-06-06T00:10:06.870-07:002016-06-06T00:10:06.870-07:00Dennis, I was taught blackboard English, so there ...Dennis, I was taught blackboard English, so there is no way in hell that I will believe that "lord of the Sabbath" means your 'Human beings are more important than the Sabbath.' <br />Christ made your point earlier with his 'man was not made for the Sabbath but the Sabbath was made for man.' He did not use 'Lord of the Sabbath' when He made that point. You sound like Tkach and similar, expecting us to believe something that is not there, just because Dennis says so. I suppose occasionally reverting to 'minister mode' (believe me cause I'm the Big Cheese) is a occupational hazard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-24929720769500068862016-06-05T22:51:16.790-07:002016-06-05T22:51:16.790-07:00"Here we have the story Jesus catching flack ..."Here we have the story Jesus catching flack for being hungry and plucking grain on the sabbath along with his disciples. "<br /><br /><br />I'm not aware of any passage that says Jesus picked any grain.....not that there was anything wrong with doing it.<br /><br />would be the same as picking a peach off the tree and eating it....some might see it as harvesting, the enlightened would see it as simply eating a peach.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-66284920439127775722016-06-05T22:15:44.028-07:002016-06-05T22:15:44.028-07:00I won't be worrying about any "sabbath,&q...I won't be worrying about any "sabbath," double or otherwise. Since there was no seven-day creation and hence, no sabbath rest, the "sabbath" is a sham. I've ignored it for forty years now. Holy days too. Ah, sweet freedom.<br />Allen C. DexterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com