tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post7361814133551335391..comments2024-03-28T08:21:32.583-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Clyde Kilough Calls His Opponents "Nasty, filthy Cockroaches"NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-55858018259982044332011-07-09T18:05:28.999-07:002011-07-09T18:05:28.999-07:00Actually, I don't know if specific atheists wh...Actually, I don't know if specific atheists who had grown up in Armstrongism were collateral damage and became atheists because of it.<br /><br />I believe two things: Without Armstrongism, some of the people who have become atheists would not have become atheists.<br /><br />The second thing I believe is that we were all collateral damage as each one of us were contributing to Herbert Armstrong's on demand cash machine. Which is really insulting because he thought of us with such contempt that he trivialized us out of existence.<br /><br />Note that he paid attention to those with money and power. He might have paid attention to those who were lackeys who stroked his ego sufficiently or disposibly useful in some manner to him.<br /><br />It's great to be God as God is God with no accountability.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-73385708219855449062011-07-09T15:31:32.287-07:002011-07-09T15:31:32.287-07:00Michael,
I've examined the atheist phenomenon...Michael,<br /><br />I've examined the atheist phenomenon from both sides over the past several years. In fact, I was originally one of those WCG atheists or agnostics when I first hit the internet about ten years ago. There was some anger, anger which I had repressed for a number of years.<br /><br />A Christian former member of WCG whom I knew as "Big Red" once shared that the most healing thing which we can do for the bitter, or for those still in the cult is to show love. That can be a hard road to travel, but I'm convinced he was right. As an atheist, I was often put off by the enthusiasm displayed by those who had found healing through traditional, mainstream Christianity. Ultimately, however, when I realized that these folks had been healed in some of the ways in which I needed healing, their contributions made a great deal of sense. A lady by the name of Shirley displayed particularly infectuous enthusiasm <br />for what Jesus Christ had done in her life. And, if I understand correctly, our web hose right here on this blog participates in the ministry of a mainstream church in Pasadena.<br /><br />I believe that at least in some cases, non-belief is a recovery stage from the toxic and false teachings of Armstrongism. Not everyone goes to non-belief, and not everyone comes out of it. I think it varies as did our personal experiences while in the cult. People don't always want to discuss the things which made them most sensitive, or to embrace solutions which they feel are much too similar to what has hurt them in the past. Somehow, we all stumbled on to a really bizarre phenomenon, perhaps one of the most extreme known to man. Emotions tend to run very strong, and healing doesn't come easily. <br /><br />Probably the best thing we can all do for one another is simply to share, whether good or bad. Many have eventually ended up talking out all of their negatives, until they are largely diffused. I found that it requires a lot of energy to hold on to anger. Thank God for the internet! Had it not come along, I'd still be suffering from PTSD, and an incredible amount of repressed anger.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-29908727253468275192011-07-09T15:02:42.385-07:002011-07-09T15:02:42.385-07:00BB,
Explosive tempers are a part of sociopath/psy...BB,<br /><br />Explosive tempers are a part of sociopath/psychopath behaviors.I have just begun studying this mental illness and realize HWA and R.L. Hubbard both had the same disorder.<br /><br />Many in the WCG suffered from these horribly damaging behaviors. I feel that many of the youth leaving the COG's and becoming athiests are "collateral damage," as Douglas said on my blog yesterday.<br /><br />I recently read the letter that HWA sent to the co-workers and members at the time his son Richard Armstrong was in the hospital barely clinging to life after the horrible head on car crash.<br /><br />What stunned me about the letter was how Herbert used this horrific situation to try to milk more money out of the donors. <br /><br />Two days later Richard died.<br /><br />The athiest writers at Armstrong Dilusion, are probably victums of this wrath. I had a very heated debate with Casey, a former WCG/PCG youth, over the last couple of days. He displays a great amount of anger toward those who discuss any religious views. <br /><br />I was probably a fool to get into the fray to begin with but I think it shows what damage occurs under bad leadership and flawed theology.Michael D. Maynardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12458157501296521383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-6610825224610645512011-07-09T14:45:08.373-07:002011-07-09T14:45:08.373-07:00Cockroaches flee the light.Cockroaches flee the light.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-84826342637056612432011-07-09T13:54:35.663-07:002011-07-09T13:54:35.663-07:00I found myself contemplating the concept of "...I found myself contemplating the concept of "perspective" while catching up on the latest ACOG news here over the past several days.<br /><br />This stuff all appears quite ridiculous to those of us who see it from that outside as we look in.<br />Obviously, it must make a great deal of sense to those still on the inside, or they would be jumping from the proverbial pan of water as it heats up.<br /><br />I wonder what would happen if some of our friends who died "in the faith", let's say sometime in the 1970s, suddenly came to life. Would they even recognize these splinter groups as being the spawn of WCG? Certainly they would recognize the end time rhetoric, although they would probably be shocked that life on the planet had continued for so many years beyond 1975. They would probably also wonder momentarily about the "Apostle's" allegedly Spirit-motivated authority system, and whether there had been a broken connection leading to such a large proliferation of splinters. Somehow, the catch-phrase "great falling away" doesn't completely account for the total confusion of the Armstrong movement!<br /><br />No, it was HWA's legendary explosive temper disorder which preserved the unity of the original WCG for so many years! And explosive temper is not one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-35836113747709829962011-07-09T12:28:07.210-07:002011-07-09T12:28:07.210-07:00Animals, including humans, were created and evolve...Animals, including humans, were created and evolved into political units. You will always have alphas and the underlings will always sniff ass. It is the way of the universe.<br /><br />Clyde, get over yourself. If you wish to be a servant, end tithing and pledge poverty as you preach Christ "Providing neither gold nor silver nor copper in your money belts, nor bag for your journey sandals, nor staffs; for a worker is worthy of his food"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-33746171619129791632011-07-09T10:03:03.945-07:002011-07-09T10:03:03.945-07:00Bug meet insect. Insect meet bug.
The so-calle...Bug meet insect. Insect meet bug. <br /><br />The so-called COGs are full of people who lie, slander, and try to murder each other for all eternity. That is the basic, insurmountable problem. That is why no good will ever come from these groups.<br /><br />It is not that the biblical laws of God are bad. They are, in fact, very good. The problem is that nobody actually obeys them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-13607861982690536362011-07-08T16:19:29.242-07:002011-07-08T16:19:29.242-07:00"At least, they could if their collective ass..."At least, they could if their collective asses weren't so tight you can't even get a pin up there."<br /><br />I ain't gonna ask.Michael D. Maynardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12458157501296521383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-2367650023785992192011-07-08T16:18:03.921-07:002011-07-08T16:18:03.921-07:00"And unlike cockroaches, there isn't much..."And unlike cockroaches, there isn't much chance of their multiplying."<br /><br />Division is what I was thinking.<br /><br />My prayer is for division upon division until their AC pastors have to get honest jobs. <br /><br />There are a lot of windows that need washing and greeters needed at Walmart. Both occupations completely honest and noble.Michael D. Maynardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12458157501296521383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-70018788094054349402011-07-08T16:11:35.099-07:002011-07-08T16:11:35.099-07:00Like every other "authority" figure in t...Like every other "authority" figure in the COGs, they can take the Old Testament and shove it up their collective asses.<br /><br />At least, they could if their collective asses weren't so tight you can't even get a pin up there.Baywolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04211521337249018038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-56903052200098985642011-07-08T15:51:25.102-07:002011-07-08T15:51:25.102-07:00Clyde said:
"Where I live is in a part of t...Clyde said: <br /><br />"Where I live is in a part of the country where one of the nastiest and filthiest of insects—cockroaches—commonly invade and infest houses, and virtually everyone has a battle on his hands to keep them out." <br /><br />One part of this great article really grabbed my attention because I live in Florida. <br /><br />This area of the country is probably the worse for those pervasive pests. Not only impervious to radiation but repopulate exponentially.<br /><br />The truth is; after I left Armstrongism last year (and the UCG) my home has been virtually free of roaches, which is not the norm no matter how clean your home is. <br /><br />OK, maybe one straggler, but I crunched him like a potato chip on a tile floor. The other one I saw scurrying for cover under my stove and could not catch was legs up dead the next day in the middle of the floor. Suicide, miracle, fire from heaven, lightning bolt, I do not know. Just gone, thank God.<br /><br />What am I trying to say? <br /><br />To Get rid of the filthiest roaches. Get rid of Armstrongism. <br /><br />The roach in your pantry and the fly in your ointment...Michael D. Maynardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12458157501296521383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-17581707866626924842011-07-08T15:35:37.171-07:002011-07-08T15:35:37.171-07:00With fewer than about 15,000 people between them, ...With fewer than about 15,000 people between them, there's not much to ignore.<br /><br />And unlike cockroaches, there isn't much chance of their multiplying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com