tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post8719653916580983653..comments2024-03-29T02:57:52.065-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: Rod Meredith Admits No One Knows About the Living Church of GodNO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-16372512348193768122016-07-18T11:02:23.208-07:002016-07-18T11:02:23.208-07:00My iphone isn't cooperating in doing links. G...My iphone isn't cooperating in doing links. Google: "Quicksilver Mona live", and on the list that comes up, you will see "Quicksilver Messenger Service - Mona 8/15/1969 Sonoma State College (official). That would be the nugget you are looking for.<br /><br />Gary Duncan is doing the vocals and is the guy in the tie-dye shirt playing the Gibson Les Paul. John Cipollina is the tall guy in the brown Davy Crocket jacket playing the Gibson SG. Amazing trade off of guitar licks!<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-49399275875379694722016-07-18T07:27:44.992-07:002016-07-18T07:27:44.992-07:00Bob, please give a link to that "Mona" o...Bob, please give a link to that "Mona" on youtube.<br />Is it <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=678JyXiRCXM" rel="nofollow">this one? </a><br /><br />Or the one with Tom Petty, or another?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-73468968844401083872016-07-16T17:04:04.213-07:002016-07-16T17:04:04.213-07:00Folks, nice to know that there are some fellow ex...Folks, nice to know that there are some fellow ex-COG Deadheads floating around out there. Awesome links and music! But, please don't forget Gary Duncan, John Cipollina and Quicksilver Messenger Service! They were another Bay Area band, and Jerry used to have them jam with the Dead when they shared the same billing. There is a kick -ass QMS version of Bo Diddley's "Mona" on youtube.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-86488096956718488572016-07-16T16:26:03.613-07:002016-07-16T16:26:03.613-07:00yeah, bb, it is indeed a recipe for ultimately bei...yeah, bb, it is indeed a recipe for ultimately being ignored...<br /><br />yet my hope still is in the Kingdom of God...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-50492519334441129342016-07-16T09:05:26.429-07:002016-07-16T09:05:26.429-07:00Agreed, 11:16. Further compounding the error, the...Agreed, 11:16. Further compounding the error, they attempted to market these right wing positions to the so-called "weak of the world", the "dumb sheep". Collectively, the tithes of basic salt of the earth blue collar people will finance a lavish life style for an elite ministry. And, why not throw in absolute authority as well? It is a completely repugnant and enslaving package that appeals to naturally self-loathing individuals who feel that they need to be punished, and to atone, while aspiring to and qualifying to become something better. The worst aspect is that it is deeply flawed and fails to deliver.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-35651438903564209672016-07-15T23:16:45.977-07:002016-07-15T23:16:45.977-07:00if they had only spent the last 75 years or so dev...if they had only spent the last 75 years or so developing a reputation as an organization known for practicing the love of Christ through charity, advocacy for the civil rights of and justice for oppressed americans and the poor, the condemnation of the violent and frankly racist foreign policy of the united states, the acknowledgement of the pollution of the environment by powerful corporate interests, etc., etc. (all of which are biblically sound positions), they might very well have developed into an organization known for its principles and integrity...<br /><br />instead it chose to combine a right wing, tow the line, self righteous, hypocritical, racist philosophy with being at odds with the rest of they what are of the churlish persuasion...<br /><br />inherently, the right wing tends to be exclusive and repulsive; add to this the unconventional religious views, and the stench of being uncaring and aloof:<br /><br />the natural outcome is being universally ignored if not outright rejected...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-35214455783778690652016-07-15T20:55:41.114-07:002016-07-15T20:55:41.114-07:006.25PM your explanation sounds like 'the dog a...6.25PM your explanation sounds like 'the dog ate my homework' excuse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-26266047994366740632016-07-15T18:25:45.680-07:002016-07-15T18:25:45.680-07:00I used my name proudly but something I don't k...I used my name proudly but something I don't know or comprehend kept my comments from going through. So, I reluctantly started commenting as anonymous. That probably applies to others also.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-20675463867325254072016-07-15T16:12:24.646-07:002016-07-15T16:12:24.646-07:003.17 PM if it was safe to do so, I too would use m...3.17 PM if it was safe to do so, I too would use my real name. Why don't I see your pic and name either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-9518660609966114402016-07-15T15:17:46.869-07:002016-07-15T15:17:46.869-07:00Anon 1:07:
At least she is willing to put her n...Anon 1:07: <br /><br />At least she is willing to put her name and picture up with her comments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-75308280815543527822016-07-15T13:45:19.539-07:002016-07-15T13:45:19.539-07:00BB said:
"The correct warning and the proper...BB said:<br /><br />"The correct warning and the proper timeline have not surfaced as of yet."<br /><br />A warning can only be considered correct AFTER it has been given and had some merit in hind sight. So with a proper timeline which implies the future is all laid out in advance which, to me , is a bogus concept. A timeline is only accurate in hind site and usually bears little resemblance to the one folks had in mind. Everything else is a guess and sets everyone up to be a false prophet and to date, everyone has been just that. There is no "know the future" as if just the right person with just the right insights will come along with the right set of keys. Everyone thinks they have the right set of keys until they die trying to get the door open and enter the realm of false prophet again.<br /><br />BB also noted: <br />"So, yes, blood on head for failure to warn, but Lake of Fire for being a false prophet. The second (TLoF) is the warning we need to be concerned with."<br /><br />Failure to warn when all warnings thus far going back forever are failures is a slippery slope and to then dish out the Lake of Fire for getting it wrong again and again is pretty harsh. (There is no lake of fire in reality but going along with the thought here.) To be fair, the Deity simply must cut out all the failing middlemen and talk directly with the folk he is not willing should perish and all to come to the knowledge of "the truth." He can tone down the brilliance of his countenance, ask Jesus if he might get up off his right hand so he can get up and come have a chat with humanity. Of course, he won't and can't for obvious reasons.DennisCDiehlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10417850852638492246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-64428428201872907872016-07-15T13:07:32.615-07:002016-07-15T13:07:32.615-07:00Connie, Many Christians denominations talk about a...Connie, Many Christians denominations talk about a 'relationship' with Christ whilst being 'soft' on the ten commandments. Hmmm. To me the core of Christianity is productivity, not 'love.' love is meaningless unless one has something to give. The German scientist who discovered the different blood types, enabled millions of lives to be saved with blood transfusion. He might not have given a hoot about relationships. And I disagree with your Christianity is not about 'promotion and marketing machine empires.' Planes, cars, movies etc need to be created, then marketed via marketing companies. Paul promoted and marketed Christianity, and God helped the marketing via healing miracles. Not forgetting, we all promote and market ourselves eg your pic Connie. Promotion and marketing is part of love.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-15444100916220463272016-07-15T12:44:11.918-07:002016-07-15T12:44:11.918-07:00Connie is right. I first got hooked back in l952 ...Connie is right. I first got hooked back in l952 by a copy of The Plain Truth I happened upon at my uncle's home which proclaimed that Hitler did not die. (Just another bombastic statement of non-truth that grabbed people's attention.) I then managed to pick up XELO in Del Rio, Texas during the fall and winter and sat glued to that old radio I owned every night. <br /><br />Radio is passe now with TV, the internet and computerized cell phones people glue themselves to. Even Television doesn't have the power it had way back there, and there is no mass communication currently available that has the same impact as radio did in the mid-twentieth century. Nor does any of the splits and slivers field a spellbinding orator who can hold a candle to a Garner Ted or any of the myriad current evangelical con men. It has to be a study in frustration for someone like old Rod Meredith who always fancied himself the ultimate orator as long as he had a Nave's Topical Bible to rely on. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-7162690504886622392016-07-15T12:33:45.284-07:002016-07-15T12:33:45.284-07:00What if Fonzie became brainwashed?<a href="http://www.tedhake.com/ItemImages/000000/915a_lg.jpeg" rel="nofollow">What if Fonzie became brainwashed?</a><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-20228043730898008612016-07-15T12:27:18.197-07:002016-07-15T12:27:18.197-07:00Black Ops Mikey wrote:
"Failure is the inevi...Black Ops Mikey wrote:<br /><br />"Failure is the inevitable consequence of incompetence."<br /><br />No, not always:<br /><br /><a href="http://dilbert.com/strip/2006-11-05" rel="nofollow">How to Use Your Incompetence to Achieve Your Goals</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-16870097517548634512016-07-15T11:58:38.877-07:002016-07-15T11:58:38.877-07:00RSK said, "All that money spent throughout th...RSK said, "All that money spent throughout the lifespan of the WCG on "warning the world", and yet no one remembers WCG, HWA, et cetera."<br /><br />MY COMMENT - Which again makes the point about how ineffective God is if WCG & HWA was God's best effort to warn the world. And of course, why all the false dates & deadlines. What was the purpose of warning the world in the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s when most adults who heard that HWA warning broadcasted are either dead or about to be? Those that heard it in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s are aging quickly and most don't remember it.<br /><br />It doesn't speak very highly of the God family if this is the best they can do. Why spanky the children for the warning message their grand parents heard and croaked never receiving the promise?<br /><br />Richard <br /><br /> Lake of Fire Church of Godnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-69130651511338048442016-07-15T10:48:13.623-07:002016-07-15T10:48:13.623-07:00The correct warning and the proper timeline have n...The correct warning and the proper timeline have not surfaced as of yet. Obviously, the Armstrong message has been false, baseless, and tentative. 1975, or "possibly within the next 3-5 years" are obvious guesses. The Armstrong movement has whispered "possibly fire" in a crowded theatre, when actually there was no fire. Those who heeded had their lives ruined, and got abused and exploited. <br /><br />So, yes, blood on head for failure to warn, but Lake of Fire for being a false prophet. The second (TLoF) is the warning we need to be concerned with.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-92101439322253983462016-07-15T10:22:22.909-07:002016-07-15T10:22:22.909-07:00Since You HAD to put a musical Youtubie there, I&#...Since You HAD to put a musical Youtubie there, I'll add another or two.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcWHRb4iuRk" rel="nofollow">Los Lobos: 'Bertha'</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFW8z7RObUM" rel="nofollow">Fire On The Mountain</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM18HENqNbk" rel="nofollow">This Land is Your Land (Los Lobos etc.)</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKtrz_fvmoc" rel="nofollow">Deal</a><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-48623320454447784752016-07-15T10:21:54.405-07:002016-07-15T10:21:54.405-07:00All that money spent throughout the lifespan of th...All that money spent throughout the lifespan of the WCG on "warning the world", and yet no one remembers WCG, HWA, et cetera.<br />Why should it be any different for LCG? Look, if you really buy into that "church eras" interpretation, all they have to do is "hold fast", promote unity amongst themselves and stop bickering about minutia. Which requires a much smaller HQ staff and would put a lot of sanctimonious old farts in LCG out of work. This is why they don't want that. The Ezekiel passage is just a threat used to milk money out of the members.<br />RSKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-59135702175606145842016-07-15T09:56:33.488-07:002016-07-15T09:56:33.488-07:00Anonymous said...
"Connie, "Christianity...Anonymous said...<br />"Connie, "Christianity is about relationship." Really, what about self actualisation? And what about warning the world of a coming WW 3, unless they repent? God makes it clear in Ezekiel that the blood of slaughtered billions will be on the heads of those given the responsibility of warning the world, if they refuse."<br /><br />RESPONSE: In order to have good relationships with your Maker and with others, one must work at spiritual self actualization, certainly. If one has concern for mankind , (a relationship with the brotherhood of man), they would certainly be exposing the message of a Watchman as well. <br /><br />Im not sure what your point is, other than I did not detail my proposal to your satisfaction. The two great commandments are relational.... Love God and to Love Man. All the rest of it is simply details. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910856904624749641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-1759987466733489002016-07-15T08:45:22.404-07:002016-07-15T08:45:22.404-07:00'After spending millions and millions of dolla...'After spending millions and millions of dollars on TV programs, webcasts, magazines and a college, the Living Church of God is still an unknown commodity in the world today.'<br /><br />The LCG is not a commodity. Let us define the term commodity:<br /><br />: something that is bought and sold<br /><br />: something or someone that is useful or valued<br /><br />The reality of this is that the LCG serves no value to the public and is a disservice to those who are associates of the group. The value of the corporation is to those whom it employees and for the ownership that runs the day to day affairs of the corporation. There is no other intrinsic value added to make this corporation rate above junk status. Jameshttp://hwarmstrong.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-3808930479531227302016-07-15T08:09:19.248-07:002016-07-15T08:09:19.248-07:00Failure is the inevitable consequence of incompete...Failure is the inevitable consequence of incompetence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-52127292650384182812016-07-15T08:03:20.893-07:002016-07-15T08:03:20.893-07:00Anonymous that should be elohay.
Elohay is like t...Anonymous that should be elohay.<br />Elohay is like this אֱלֹהָי (see I included the nekudos for you)<br />Elohay means my god. Not elohim. If you want to intersperse Hebrew into things for some weird reason at least get it right.<br />Hint: try using a tanach instead of a Christian online translator which is piss poor at best.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-11370500969735262332016-07-15T08:00:15.733-07:002016-07-15T08:00:15.733-07:00Connie, "Christianity is about relationship.&...Connie, "Christianity is about relationship." Really, what about self actualisation? And what about warning the world of a coming WW 3, unless they repent? God makes it clear in Ezekiel that the blood of slaughtered billions will be on the heads of those given the responsibility of warning the world, if they refuse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-48301084391601959912016-07-15T07:27:20.974-07:002016-07-15T07:27:20.974-07:00on July 15, 2016 at 6:50 AM
Connie Schmidt wrote:-...on July 15, 2016 at 6:50 AM<br />Connie Schmidt wrote:-<br /><br />Much that makes a lot of sense. Fortunately the answers and end outcome do not depend on us.<br /><br />cheers<br />ralph.fRalphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.com