tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post976168094208510087..comments2024-03-28T01:47:50.775-07:00Comments on Banned by HWA! News and Observations About Armstrongism and the Church of God Movement: The Great Joy When Leaving The Church NO2HWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018654662518613623noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-59542982849996062532017-07-09T18:45:45.189-07:002017-07-09T18:45:45.189-07:00When I left WCG I was told by the minister that, &...When I left WCG I was told by the minister that, "I had lost the plot!" What a great thing it has been to have "lost the plot" as he so eloquently put it. Those who leave can now get on with living their lives again free from the "plot" they have been under.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-80685296735276296792017-07-09T13:43:48.357-07:002017-07-09T13:43:48.357-07:00I think many of the doctrines they taught are righ...I think many of the doctrines they taught are right. However they do not understand about loving relationships with God and other people. God is love They have no comprehension of what that means. Authoritarianism and exclusivity preclude love Focusing on government is just missing the point entirely. Such mentally unhealthy people using the bible to promote their own ideas and pathology. Get away from people who treat you like you're rubbish. You don't want to become converted like them. It's so sad. Tessahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10398552429633664308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-64058529178842980112017-07-09T13:43:23.582-07:002017-07-09T13:43:23.582-07:00I think many of the doctrines they taught are righ...I think many of the doctrines they taught are right. However they do not understand about loving relationships with God and other people. God is love They have no comprehension of what that means. Authoritarianism and exclusivity preclude love Focusing on government is just missing the point entirely. Such mentally unhealthy people using the bible to promote their own ideas and pathology. Get away from people who treat you like you're rubbish. You don't want to become converted like them. It's so sad. Tessahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10398552429633664308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-75289278797644235452017-07-08T12:06:18.887-07:002017-07-08T12:06:18.887-07:00Inspite of the lingering scars of being a member o...Inspite of the lingering scars of being a member of the Armstrong religion for 13 years, my life has inproved. <br /><br />My income has more then doubled. It seems that, if there is a God, he has blessed me since I no longer tithe or give a penny to any religious institution.Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-31939704588880370092017-07-08T11:36:58.546-07:002017-07-08T11:36:58.546-07:00To question or criticize the ministers is knock th...To question or criticize the ministers is knock them off their thrones, so of course it's taboo. Exalting 'Gods government' through the 'magic' of repetition, (or 'government is everything' as Herbie kept saying), amounts to these ministers exalting themselves about God. Just like Satan. No doubt a tyrannical Satan kept telling those angels under him that 'government is everything' as well.<br />This view of government is very different to the American constitutions 'to secure those right (life, liberty and pursuit of liberty) governments are instituted..'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-67967470978326542322017-07-08T10:54:44.099-07:002017-07-08T10:54:44.099-07:00When I left, I was fed all the old clichéd church ...When I left, I was fed all the old clichéd church catchphrases that I'd heard repeated ad nauseum ad infinitum for decades by some. It's not like I didn't know what people would accuse me of doing, or how they would accuse me of failing. After all, they think "The Truth" is just a series of clichéd catchphrases.<br /><br />I was also surprised that many more were far more gracious than I had anticipated. I don't know how the gracious ones dealt with the cognitive dissonance.Helen Wheelsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-46720073539828509232017-07-08T08:38:56.728-07:002017-07-08T08:38:56.728-07:00I remember a story about a member who was question...I remember a story about a member who was questioning a past member about his success after he had turned n away from the CHURCH OF God, to which the past member retorted "Satan takes care of me." I guess after being fed alot of church propaganda like not tithing is robbing God, the world out there is lost, church members are the most blessed and prosperous on earth etc, it was hard for members to imagine a better life apart from the Church of God environment. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-63190838168166410562017-07-08T07:26:25.270-07:002017-07-08T07:26:25.270-07:00they didn't leave the Church because they were...they didn't leave the Church because they weren't in it....they were in PCGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-35642664222806527262017-07-08T01:56:11.818-07:002017-07-08T01:56:11.818-07:00I felt complete rapture when I stopped attending P...I felt complete rapture when I stopped attending PCG.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-226103369043606765.post-91806737587241277482017-07-07T23:57:30.869-07:002017-07-07T23:57:30.869-07:00Back in 1973, I took a course in personnel admini...Back in 1973, I took a course in personnel administration, taught by a bank executive at our local community college. In that class we took apart, forensically, contemporary staffing and working situations, and learned how to manage, mentor to, and motivate the human resources entrusted to us to optimize productivity, and to retain good, caring, promotable employees long term. Up until that time, the only example in my life of any sort of management had been what I learned in church, at SEP, and at Ambassador College as a student, and later as an employee. <br /><br />The course I took really opened my mind as to how to successfully and ethically work with people. We learned that authoritarian management was even back in the '70s passe, and in reality had never actually worked, except perhaps in the military. <br /><br />Of course, since that time, two opposing trends have emerged and progressed. One is that management techniques in the working environment have continued to evolve in a positive direction, and to become more widely known, so that most people who are employed have a highly developed sense of right, wrong, and fairness in the usage of authority. Number two is that if anything, cruel authoritarianism has actually worsened in many of the Armstrong churches. Supposedly, being the only place where "the truth" is taught is seen as giving authority carte blanche to be demeaning and abusive.<br /><br />How does an individual or an organization treat others if given absolute authority over them? I submit that the answer to that question is an effective way to measure the character of those exercising the authority, and the fruits which they produce in their charges' lives. Whether or not they realize it, they are accountable personally and professionally. That responsibility is an integral part of having authority. <br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.com